Re: [EVGRAY] help!

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2019-06-28T21:14:25+00:00
Warren Keillor <[email protected]>

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InfoHere I am, back again.I have not done it with my RVsI have a 90 lb flywheel from a marine diesel engine, set in good bearings on a 1" shaft (25mm,) in a sturdy steel angle iron frame, able to take any number and size of motors and generators attached with ve belts, and pulleys.I also have a complete inventory of different sizes of pulleys and belts.So far, I have had no joy.I have not given up, it is stored in a distant barn, and needs to be moved closer to where there is heat, light, and electricity.I see a lot of devices of this kind that people have put a lot of time and effort into. They seem to work.I just can't imagine all that for the revenue from some damn you tube video.Does anybody know if frauds get lost of bucks faking you tube energy videos? Then why are they there? Fame?Beats me! A lot of bother for what?Now about RVs from only my experience I put in 1.5 amps of 12 volt DCRun it through an inverterDrive the RV to speed of 1800 rpmThen open the shunt switch on the capacitor tuning circuit that then put a 120 volt to 12 volt transformer in series with the capacitors.I then rectified that AC and then ran a DC load at 2.5 amps DC measured at the brushes.It was an electric trolling motor for a small boat.I also ran a Rene charger off the transformer"s 20 volt multi tap winding, at no measurable amperage load at the battery.One is able to charge at least 10 batterys at once with no extra load on the Rene draw.You only get 1/3 the rated hp from the shaft of an RV as far as I know.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 3:29 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Guys I'll explain my idea. I'm building a power generator so I can get 
off the national grid, because in Italy they are thieves. The system 
is that of Chas Campbell, a large flywheel of 2 meters in diameter 
(about 7 feet) weighing about 550 pounds that is rotated by this 5.5 
horsepower engine in a rotoverter way, and the wheel will turn a 8kwa 
three-phase alternator (11kw but effective 8kwa). Only I would like to 
connect everything with straps to turn the wheel, and not in a jerked 
way, but continued. Have any of you already tried to do it?

"[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> ha scritto:

> Hi @lamaisonpescara
>
> "...and does not have the strength that a 5.5
> horsepower should have..."
> The motor has to be derated when running in rotoverter mode 
> according to Hector. It is probably overloaded if trying to run at 
> nominal power.
>
> Check if the rotor is damaged. Is the insulation between the 
> laminated steel sheets in working order? The current has to run in 
> the squirrel cage and not in the metal sheets.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <info@...> wrote :
>
> Thanks Warren for the availability, ... I hope that Doug can help me,
> the problem is that the engine runs at full speed, even with only 2
> phases once it starts, without capacitors, and without load it absorbs
> very little, 0.2 AMP, however, turning the rotor very warm (not the
> stator with the windings), and does not have the strength that a 5.5
> horsepower should have.
>
>
>
>
>
> "James Glinski jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@... [EVGRAY]" 
> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Send some pics of your set up .i t may help .
> >
> > On Thursday, June 27, 2019, Warren Keillor 
> schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...
> > [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Info
> >> Something is wrong.
> >> My WEG, once up to speed, will run
> >> even without capacitors in the circuit.
> >> I never ran it long like that, because I was always trying to get the
> >> current draw as low as possible.
> >> Now , I had better dig one of my Roroverters out of storage, and 
> test that
> >> to see if if might, in that condition, heat up.
> >> I use a 140, or 120 uf motor start capacitor to get my motors turning at
> >> full 60 hz speed, before I begin my play with them, using my capacitor
> >> tuning boxes.
> >> As I said, I had difficulty finding oil filled high voltage, low value uf
> >> capacitors, which are what I have been using. I have not tried 
> other types,
> >> as I scored a whole bin of these oil filled kind, in an old electronics
> >> surplus store in downtown Toronto, ( which has since moved to 
> some suburban
> >> industrial area miles out of downtown) The oil filled, are not 
> common, but
> >> are not perhaps the only kind that work. They are only my 
> experience, as I
> >> was new to Roto Verters, and trying to get my first one going, 
> just to test
> >> this voodoo crazy thing Hector, and Doug, were doing.
> >> My emotions were high when the big lump of cast iron motor ran 
> full speed,
> >> just as they said it would.
> >> I found myself running this mass on a tiny speaker wire of 26 gauge, just
> >> to prove to myself, I was not hallucinating- and my amp meters were
> >> mis-reading the draw of 200ma. at 110 volts 60hz AC.
> >> Once the magic full speed rotation happens with that 140uf cap, it was
> >> taken out of the start circuit, and the motors keep running, whether with
> >> grease, and seals or not.
> >> The one with seals, and grease uses 400ma of current, while removing the
> >> seals the other motor uses 200 ma.
> >> Both motors were brand new,, when I got them as surplus movie props from
> >> Del Toro's "Pacific Rim"
> >> It was cheaper to buy these real ones from China, than to have me make
> >> fake ones out of foam plastic, for a giant industrial scene in the movie.
> >> After the movie, I bought a pallet of these motors at the props sale. No
> >> one else wanted them as they were 480 volt three phase, and no 
> one has that
> >> voltage in their homes and ordinary workshops here in Canada. They are in
> >> the realm of heavy industries only, outside the core of major cities, in
> >> industrial zones, with their special electrical sub stations 
> pulling power
> >> from the main transmission grid. People buying at film prop sales don't
> >> buy for such heavy industries, or is it usual for film companies 
> to buy the
> >> real thing new. I was just lucky to be working on this giant 200 million
> >> dollar budget film, with a director who likes the real stuff 
> when possible.
> >> They bought containers of stuff from China, for scenes in the film.
> >> It was less trouble than shooting in China.
> >> That's the only reason I got my curious little hands on new motors, that
> >> never had to do anything except look pretty, as part of some giant robot.
> >> I don't spend a lot of money on my experiments. Hundreds have ended in
> >> failures, or miserable complicated contraptions that barely show any
> >> promise of running themselves.
> >> Hector, in spite of his flamboyant language sometimes, redeemed himself
> >> with this device, his Rotoverter. It works magic.
> >> At least, in my tests,1.614 times over unity. (Hector claims 
> 1.618. I have
> >> more to improve)
> >> You are having a problem with yours, I have never experienced
> >> Ask others in this group. Doug is reliable, and has a lot more 
> experience,
> >> than I have, with this device.
> >> Cheers Warren
> >>
> >> ent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> 
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> >> On Thu., 27 Jun. 2019 at 2:41 a.m., info@... mailto:info@... [EVGRAY]
> >> <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, I wanted to thank all the guys who answered me to try to help me
> >> solve problems with a rotoverter. The variac has arrived, but even if
> >> placed at 1/4 of the current foreseen in connection to Y, the thing
> >> does not change, the rotor turning without load heats up, the current
> >> consumption is low, about 0.5 amp. which increases if the capacitor
> >> microfarads increase, and the power is low .... the only doubt I have
> >> left is the capacitors ... they are the normal ones for AC that they
> >> sell in electronics stores, and not the old ones in oil bath ...
> >> that's the problem ...? Has anyone ever done the same?
> >>
> >> info@... mailto:info@... ha scritto:
> >>
> >> > Hi everyone, I'm new to the group and first of all I wanted to thank
> >> > everyone for their kindness. I have a problem with a rotoverter. The
> >> > motor is a three-phase 5,5horse, 50 hertz (I am in Italy), 4
> >> > windings. 690v star connection. 1440rpm per minute (the engine can
> >> > even go up to 60 hertz with 830V and 1730 revolutions is shown on
> >> > the plate) Now I am testing it with the 220v 50herz rotoverter
> >> > system, but I saw that it has little force and the rotor (cage)
> >> > squirrel) warms up a lot ..... how come? ... I bought a variac to
> >> > bring the voltage to 1/4 (172 volts) and I'm waiting for it to
> >> > arrive, but is that just the problem or else? ...... Thank you so
> >> > much for helping me out.
> >>
> >>
> >>


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