Re: Hi All - Question

Database ID: 113597
2019-06-27T01:18:25+00:00
onielsen2000 <[email protected]>

← View thread

Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

Body

Hi Dave,

"I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains on a motor.I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve this,..."
Nikola Tesla in one of his patents describes how to run a motor on two different frequencies: https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-390721-dynamo-electric-machine https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-390721-dynamo-electric-machine

By vibration resonance do you mean mechanical resonance? For a complete AC oscillation (one cycle) energy or power has double the exciting frequency. I.e. magnetizing first in one direction followed by magnetization in the opposite direction. If the mechanical resonance is double that of the AC frequency it will resonate at double the AC frequency. Think of it as the hum of mains power transformers (magnetostriction of iron in transformers). If the mechanical resonant frequency is at this frequency and coupled to it it will resonate (or vibrate) at this frequency.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <libra_spirit@...> wrote :

 Hi All - Question
 

 Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing with?
 

 I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains on a motor.
 I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
 

 The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation at 90 degrees to both.
 

 With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
 

 Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments, vibration resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can be coupled at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
 

 ------------------------------------
 

 We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to lower it's resistance to acceleration.
 That is a ratio a bit larger then  pi / 2.
 

 Pi / 2 =  1.5707963 ...
 

 89 / 50 =  1.78
 

 Thanks all for reading,
 Dave L

References

<[email protected]>

Headers

Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Sender [email protected]
X-Apparently-To [email protected]
X-Received (qmail 16076 invoked by uid 102); 27 Jun 2019 01:21:36 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.196.227.14) by m8.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2019 01:21:36 -0000
X-Received (qmail 24276 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2019 01:21:35 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mta4001.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.201.194.219) by mtaq4.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2019 01:21:35 -0000
X-Original-Return-Path <[email protected]>
Authentication-Results mta4001.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [email protected] header.s=echoe dkim=permerror (bad sig); spfDomain=yahoogroups.com spfResult=pass; dmarc=pass(p=none sp=NULL dis=none) header.from=yahoogroups.com
X-Received-SPF pass (domain of yahoogroups.com designates 74.6.135.92 as permitted sender)
X-YMailISG iq.KPQIWLDvsJdXXNdJXQJkJszENo6cCGmvJ4nPzi7qD9UuT nQuXLCNIDkpCY_p_sV8PNVvQKr.jXUSe_CCnEoiuUpGws17RryX9RuEHAcr. t9Y.SSJrfRX4icAMCrfu7ZmDrCcp0NQHXisawtB4KbHEfNnexxKnWlaHVsCP 0IXV7UudnF9uD2UY_ztXkg09hGm0gPRvwP2ZHGxlsCKrdeeN1TYwS0k3ozQn ziu_wZkSM86PYUEOKRri2xRo5QsXhhMvpY_oMEVQsKIOS9v.BtM1BHY0YoEs 1ogEn3IBLTkjaGJMDF21JZatkDhggmON1S8MSrILsoVUcdBHe3lOGK_zVMTs rc.nOZDHcTJ3dvLCvmXeCxbh.06R6Xos2KY7tKVRkR5UrzmtVL18Ockc8mQV bUFYYHOJCXWFDKkt3joZ9eZ4zqbhkdPC9nQ4h9VGbNiGqfUrzZXx.JaqOO.j X1YkT5n4Jl5N4jhn_C.9q839b5brE6EQe50e5Y8tCl4xqxqI1zGIco6wRTlz JnRWJTm6b9MgLGhvZT2h5jmnrjObADeurT6O3836f_Z9HdpaIb86mWKiMvY_ 4dGUXQtPRQrE2NhXeePwY9oiThbc7Y7L00himn3XcQ1RC3cvJjZVO9vA7TkS 03UGfD9PbGB5xUg6cd1.MDVs6mfqzPjZl5UYhQ8MBP6M3qIcQ5XAH4GcRVr9 DKi5Nf5pdYC1ViF8ksN52Wj2HHAJWZo.teaR2PBZhNy_zBXI3G9Nu15HKE6Q Aoa64ei214DVycI6REDXE05dqImhW8ZAv79WCqDcLuWb2n3xoaHS7aIfDVkW Ug9jAugsNpCwxBruA4MMyCJsDzzPABIIPq9ZlE5YDTlvbjf8HWwF7Wej7O8i NT1r1UlvwYeoM8o..1IneJ6XMVkyHL_j3qGXWRtkIDlIuOj8rJLmiN.qsT4V k464jy3rzxZqPgBYTHeeFh1FN6q2JwVVS_nwOc3Khgb1e88UQkw2UX60Np2P oFwr0ix8plLIXHVR1e840zYkmTSfa8e0YF5rd1RMaDlWDzSCGo_y6Zwn6fBe Nix0tGdQt_0UZZ0eqf44nYv05B0pQSw1ZQp3CiEfuQ5sNVmm4BN5J.6i6RA2 uAARPQ3oFsrBNXMKeYIYs258sbnNiM76objZ2ICZWOBgEq66faWTSyec30bu Pd_u4qJvjlpopg--
X-Received from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO sonic318-37.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com) (74.6.135.92) by mta4001.groups.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:21:35 +0000
X-Received from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic318.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:21:35 +0000
Date Thu, 27 Jun 2019 01:18:25 +0000
X-Received from [127.0.0.1] by gapi9.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2019 01:18:25 -0000
To [email protected]
X-Original-Return-Path [email protected]
X-Original-From [email protected]
X-Mailer Yahoo Groups Message Poster
References <[email protected]>
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property groups-compose
Message-ID <[email protected]>
In-Reply-To <[email protected]>
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV"
X-Originating-IP 85.81.28.16
X-Yahoo-Post-IP 85.81.28.16
Reply-To [email protected]
Subject Re: Hi All - Question
X-Yahoo-Group-Post member; u=115023864; y=mnRlH0EpXxXJHFsdeZCDnza2jk_xi51E9fS6xef6gPBvu2bBqbQI
X-Yahoo-Profile onielsen2000
From [email protected]