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Hi MerLynn,
I agree that electromagnetism is very fundamental in our physical world. Only the empty space without anything at all in it is more fundamental.
"You know not how the charged Earth ball came into existence much less why it rotates."
You only have to read Walter Russell or some ET sources to get the idea. W.B. Smith https://www.wanttoknow.info/energy/wilbur_smith_new_science uses the control fabric and the precipitation fabric to account for even the intelligence of the universe.
"Magnetism is inherent regardless of whether charges move or not. You have not defined “charges” as a first premise to your debate. You think EM is separate to ‘matter’."
Building the universe from nothing at all requires the space fabric which contains the three directions at right angle to each other making it possible to go anyplace in space. The directions are in quadrature (i.e. they're at right angle to each other). Now fill in something to have density. That's the tempic field or the ether. To be able to see something in space have the density change in one direction of that space. That's the electric field or divergence of density. Now apply the quadrature concept to have the electric field curl around or to have the diverging field curl around. This is magnetism. To have a higher parameter requires all lower parameters for its existence. Thus for having magnetism first the three parameters of space are needed. Following that density (tempic field) and divergence of density (electric field) have to exist followed by curl of the diverging density which is the magnetic field. Thus magnetism is the sixth parameter and is the most complex of the fields as it requires five lower parameters for its existence. Or it requires the tempic field and the electric field for its existence.
Charges are formed in the control fabric which is the fabric following the field and space fabrics. The four fabrics of each three parameters in quadrature is what makes the entire universe. The electric charges are formed when the three fields have the same size in all directions and thus interlock to form stable particles. Those are electrons and positrons and are the smallest building blocks of physical matter. They can be assembled into the fundamental particles making up atoms. Gabriel LaFreniere shows how this is done in his book 'Matter Is Made Of Waves http://rhythmodynamics.com/Gabriel_LaFreniere/index.htm.'
"None of the above works if molecules of two elements make water and electricity is just electrons."
Why not? Doesn't water have the spectral fingerprint of the two kinds of atoms making it up? Even if the characteristic fingerprints of different atoms are displaced in the frequency range isn't it the same kinds of atom just at different energy levels like when heated up or cooled down?
"Only a change in the way man thinks about the unseen, hidden, Esoteric/Alchemical secret teaching of the Ages can bring about the change you are looking for. This is the religion of the Druids and Alchemists and Magi and the lessor Tech level of the Shamans."
We don't want religions. Lets change it into science and even better into technology. Religion too often makes people go into war and conflicts. Peaceful religions may be OK if not wanting facts. Video about the 'spiritual war' between people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed0ae3DW39I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed0ae3DW39I (14:04). This video has some subliminal talk in the background at some point.
"So tell me Ole, if you were to adapt the Lessons of Field Science to your budding students in Tech School, how would you describe the EM invisible Fields of the Non Physical as an UPWISING to understanding what Tesla and Russell meant should be studied?"
First learn everything about waves like in the theory of Rhythmodynamics. When the students see that all forces acting at a distance can be made up of waves in all kinds of media they will realize that this is a universal principle that exists above as below meaning even in the nonphysical densities. T.J.J. See and C.A. Bjérknes were precursors of the theory of Rhythmodynamics. Tesla very much recommended the theory of T.J.J. See. This may be the theory where he got his unofficial levitation technology from.
Second I would recommend a complete electromagnetism not split into the separate fields of electricity and magnetism and missing the field of change or the tempic field. This should not be taught as magic but be made into science by using the scientific method https://wiki2.org/en/Scientific_method. We don't want it turned into flat earth science! Galilei introduced the scientific method which almost cost him his life for requiring proof of the observations made. I.e. proving that the Earth isn't the center of the universe revealed some powerful people as lying or just of having limited knowledge. The scientific method must be reintroduced into electromagnetism regardless of the books already written which doesn't make the false stuff true because of repeating it in more books. This would require looking at the experiments of W.J. Hooper, W.B. Smith, I. Catt the JoeCell and Alexey Chekurkov's levitator etc. even if in means rewriting the books of physics. It doesn't help closing the eyes ears and mouth. A new consciousness is needed so the truth shouldn't be censored.
Making thought experiments (Albert Einstein) may not be a good scientific practice. Real experiments will tell better. Of course thoughts come before the experiment. Tesla had it all in his head but he did make real experiments too.
Regards
Ole
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Electro-magnetism as you understand it is ALL there is to physics. Nothing more nothing less. Chemistry is EM. Biology is EM, Astronomy is EM. even Astrology is EM. You are pure EM. Your thoughts are pure EM. Water is an EM construct. Or as Thales said it… Everything is water and Life is in Everything.
"The fields and most of their effects are described by mathematics" are not described by mathematics in any fashion that allows the reader to understand them and on that point I could rest my case as clearly its befuddled your thinking.
You know not how the charged Earth ball came into existence much less why it rotates.
Magnetism is inherent regardless of whether charges move or not. You have not defined “charges” as a first premise to your debate. You think EM is separate to ‘matter’.
"Molecules are supposed to be made of atoms. Not the other way around. A DNA molecule can consist of hundreds of millions of atoms" This is not EM, but pure Hector cow porn.
So lets go back to basics.
The JoeCell tube cell similar to what Alex presented in the Experimenters Guide, can be used by pouring fresh runny concrete in the cell and power it up with a 12V car battery and after about 10 seconds of power the cell only has pure fresh drinking water. I have drank it.
In the inline Ring Magnet Cell, fresh runny concrete can be pumped through a Ferrite Ring Magnet and it comes out as pure fresh drinking water and I have drank it. You can too... Call Virgin Airlines tomorrow and lets do it. (only 500 a day for the only EM Physics lesson you will ever need to know that you have been Lied to your whole Life and unfortunately don’t mind being Lied to, it seems)
Lets first take the tube cell. When connecting the 12V car battery, one can think of pure water or one can think of oil or one can think of Ocean White or one can be sick and unable to coherently think at all. Depending upon how one "thinks" depends upon what the Cell does and the placement of the electrodes. We call this the Parallel Mind work of the Alchemist. OK got it yet why Alex called it an orgone accumulator and it never worked for anyone. Orgone don’t exist. Can I get anymore exact on the Non Physical effecting the Physical? Its called Creating magnetic Fields with the Mind. Or Russell’s Invisible Mind World. Or Tesla’s Non Physical World. And its ALL about EM or magnetic Fields or Field Science as we call it. Its NOT a “discipline of Physics” unless you believe Nobelled Lies.
Now the In Line Ring Magnet cell. (It can be this way) If you verbally abuse the cell it may stop working, If you are sick and get to close it may stop working. If you assemble it whilst sick it may not work. If you Steal it, it may not work. There is a CLEAR NON physical action here. There is clearly an invisible mind world at work here. And it effects what the Cell Creates. JoeCells mimic creation.
Non Physical forces can either create or destroy even modify the EM Fields. Little is understood here about CREATION. For you Ole, its about Heat and destruction. One side of the EM spectrum, the other side is creation and its about COLD. You can think “human Teeth” and the chicken egg incubation in the presence of the JoeCell with see the chick have Teeth when hatched.
None of the above works if molecules of two elements make water and electricity is just electrons.
To make obsolete, outdated technology Hot (destructive) fusion forces and adapt it to Non Physical Creation technology, is self destructive, particularly when man has only ever used his inventions to kill more efficiently and pollute more horrendously and making energy cheaper will not change this.
Only a change in the way man thinks about the unseen, hidden, Esoteric/Alchemical secret teaching of the Ages can bring about the change you are looking for. This is the religion of the Druids and Alchemists and Magi and the lessor Tech level of the Shamans.
Everything is a Magnetic Field. NO EXCEPTIONS. Its not a discipline of physics. Its what Physics is and it has a NON physical or Invisible Mind side.
You again clearly overlooked my first two premises….
“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”said Tesla
"We live in two worlds an invisible Mind world and a visible body world"….. said Walter Russell
The same coin described two ways.
Matter is Plasma Light Structures. Plasma is the 4th state of matter where plasma builds ALL of creation and Plasma or Light Bars are like a tiny lego pieces with a North and South Pole and Poles around the centre. Plasma makes Everything including the thoughts going through your mind. No other ‘physics’ has an explanation for the invisible and non physical of the JoeCell that anyone can ask to be demo’d. One might get to see the fisher and paykel motors and static generators and magnetic Shielding but to describe but a few of what we do. Joe does likes to show off…..
What I tried to do was relate non physical in your terms but I see why that failed. You have no grasp of Invisible Mind world or Non physical ‘ideas’ effecting the physical. Much less the ‘mechanism’ or ‘science’ to achieve this.
If you cant touch it…. Its not real…. And so it goes.
“Schauberger worked with water and air and imploded the atoms (fusion) or molecules instead of splitting them into smaller parts” This is a LIE about what he worked with.
It is unfortunate that it has been foretold how this Creation Technology of Field Science has to be released to mankind. In time, however, it will be magnetic Fields that cart Cayce’s arse around the USA when he reincarnates again. Personal Vimana’s once again available to the rich, enlightened, truthful and godlike (of course).
So tell me Ole, if you were to adapt the Lessons of Field Science to your budding students in Tech School, how would you describe the EM invisible Fields of the Non Physical as an UPWISING to understanding what Tesla and Russell meant should be studied?
Can Anyone? Hector? Trade your cow porn in on some real studies yes? You could learn more in a decade than you have learned from centuries of poor experiments ya know. Ya did say anything I could throw atcha.