Re: [EVGRAY] Tesla Turbine Question

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Norm,

Do you have any prototypes left? 

So you grew the disks seems expensive, and what kind of metal did you
use for the shaft or did you change that to a composite also?

On 4/12/2019 6:45 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> The most important aspects of the Tesla Turbine Project is the
> fundamental principles of operation in that it is a Boundary Layer
> driven concept. Tesla was correct in stating that the runners, (disk)
> had to have a micro polished surface to create the greatest adhesion
> of the boundary layer air or media. It is the interaction of the
> trans-sonic fluid flow via shock wave attachment to the moving disk
> that imparts the maximum of  kinetic energy which was derived from the
> De Laval Nozzle conversion, Pressure and Temperature.  Grasp the
> concept.   It works in rocketry to create thrust. My improved hub
> design eliminated the need for Labyrinth seals  buy going to the
> exhaust through a hollow hub design that improved the performance by a
> great margin.  The limiting factor in the 1920s days was in metallurgy
> in that there was a lack of proper metals that could handle the radial
> shes loading of the high speed disk packs.  We solved this by going to
> carbon/carbon-composite disk built in vapor deposit diffusion
> furnaces. We could create disk that are 10X stronger than any steel
> and are exceptional light weight and almost indestructible with micro
> finish surfaces as Tesla specified.  A shame, that all of this effort
> will be lost due to a totally lack of interest. So be it!.  An added
> note in that it is absolutely necessary for efficient operation for
> the driving fluid be a phase change condensible media so as to provide
> the differential in pressures between the input side and the exhaust
> to create the implosion centripetal vortex principle mandatory for
> operation.  The lower the pressure at the exhaust the greater the
> implosion vortex phenomenon.  GET IT!
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> On 4/12/2019 1:28 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Norm,
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>> My applogies this subject has been a bother.  I was curious as to the
>> state of the bearings used at that point in time on that device in
>> order to research another object.  Figured Dr Tesla being the Man may
>> have had some super cool bearing tech too, so I queried the expert,
>> you.  No worries the subject is now closed.
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>> Sorry to have upset you,
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>> Mick
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>> On 4/11/2019 12:12 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> CRAP, removes all incentive to post things that could help you
>>> guys.   Happens all too often on this site.
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>>> On 4/10/2019 9:04 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>> Hey Norn you will just have to take your lumps on this one, you
>>>> said ball or roller bearings and one of the few places you will
>>>> find ball bearings is in car turbochargers. They are used here
>>>> because a car turbocharger cycles up and down and ball bearings cut
>>>> down on turbo lag.
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>>>> But for aircraft or any other constant high speed device operation,
>>>> plain hydrodynamic bearings rule the roost but hey, good flow of
>>>> information!
>>>>
>>>> Ron
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>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
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>>>> Please don't get hung up on stupid bearings for the De Laval
>>>> Nozzels are the key to the Tesla Turbine operations. see the
>>>> example nozzels used in the steam turbines back in that time frame.
>>>>
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