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Subject: Re: Magnetoelectric vs Electromagnetic
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Thank you, I appreciate your explanation.
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On Mar 12, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Norman Wootan <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Angel and Bert, Very old Physics books depicted the magnetic flux
> ropes between the earth and the other heavy planets and speculated
> that this magnetic flux flow was the cause of core heating and
> maintenance of the planets. Example,
> https://www.universetoday.com/19234/core-of-uranus/ They re-discover
> the obvious. As Bert said, simple sun bathing the surface with
> photons does not cut it. Now, If you really want to see over-unity,
> try to figure how much energy has to be expended to release the huge
> quantity of PHOTON ENERGY from magnetic flux conversion methods.
> Blowing up a Neo magnet with 1.5 Tesla field strength yields X amount
> of energy, that they have been able to capture vs the explosives
> needed to yield an over pressure shock wave of 23GPa/ nano sec. All I
> would do is explore the 3rd variable which is heat. Sounds like a
> good job for some resonance hammering at super high heat. Just a
> thought. Go back to some basic research that happened back a few
> years ago on this subject. see attached
>
> https://www3.aps.anl.gov/~haskel/PS/PRL_HPLCMO.pdf
>
> Here is a three variable equation that I looked at and as you can see,
> you have to consider all three variables in this situation. Vola!~
>
> https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/23655/0000621.pdf?seq
>
> On 3/12/2019 7:59 AM, Angel Alvarez wrote:
>> Thank you Bert, your explanation is awesome, great resources!
>>
>> Sent from my mobile phone
>> Angel A. Alvarez P. E.
>> President and Manager of
>> Vortex Energi, LLC
>> 949 632 8315
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2019, at 2:38 AM, Bert Pool <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so just how many millions of terawatts of energy are we talking
>>> about flowing directly from the sun to the earth in one of these
>>> magnetic connections? We always thought the earth was kept nicely
>>> heated and comfy (and alive) from the photons falling on the surface
>>> - but it seems to me that the energy delivered by random photons of
>>> light would pale in comparison to the energy that is being piped
>>> straight to the earth through a magnetic tunnel the diameter of the
>>> earth!
>>>
>>> Bert
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't see any estimations on just how much power this represents.
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2019 8:30 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bert, Bob and all, remember back a few years when NASA was
>>>> speculating over a possibly space craft that could travel of near
>>>> LUMINAL velocity by navigating in these huge magnetic tubes of
>>>> force. Along for the ride so to speak. Now we know for a fact
>>>> that Science has the ability to convert magnetic flux into photon
>>>> power which is what my whole research has been about.. This is
>>>> the reason for the NASA flux tube mapping operation.
>>>>
>>>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrCwOJkD4VcixgA5y8PxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=magnetic+flux+tube+mapping+by+NASA+satellite&fr=yhs-pty-pty_converter&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_converter
>>>>
>>>> https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_tube
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_transfer_event
>>>>
>>>> The space craft extracts its needed power from the magnetic flux
>>>> tubs of force.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2019 4:26 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Bert, Thought you would find that particular article rather
>>>>> interesting. After I read it, I thought about going to the Mr.
>>>>> Peabody Way Back Machine and pull up all the writings by the
>>>>> Master back then. Gee Wiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilhelm Röntgen
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_R%C3%B6ntgen> in 1888
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoelectric_effect I firmly
>>>>> believe that after we run full circle, we will realize that the
>>>>> secret for what we are looking for is in the DIELECTRIC. Hmmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2019 10:58 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm, all, that first article blew my mind! I was wondering why I
>>>>>> wasn't taught about the magnetoelectric effect back in my
>>>>>> electronic school days, and then I saw that the scientific
>>>>>> research references on this work only came about sometime around
>>>>>> the year 2000 - practically new work, and long after my school days!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, moving a dielectric material through an electrostatic field
>>>>>> causes the dielectric to be come magnetized! I would assume that
>>>>>> the magnetic field is only generated while the dielectric (or
>>>>>> conversely, the electrostatic field) is moving? And the magnetic
>>>>>> field disappears (probably) when the relative movement stops?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm, remember the PZT piezo disks you and Joel used with the MRA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Experiment: Take one of the PZT disks and mount it on a plastic
>>>>>> or fiberglass arbor so it can be spun around its axis, kind of
>>>>>> like a phonograph record. Place a conductive metallic electrode
>>>>>> above part of the piezo and one conductive metal electrode below,
>>>>>> and apply an adjustable H.V d.c. electrostatic field to the
>>>>>> plates. You now have a moving piezo dielectric which is spinning
>>>>>> through a static electric field. You can easily measure whether
>>>>>> a magnetic field is being produced by the dielectric with a
>>>>>> simple magnetic compass or Hall effect sensor. Note: you'll
>>>>>> probably have to grind the silver contact surfaces off both sides
>>>>>> of the PZT piezo so that the spinning silver conductors don't
>>>>>> screw with the creation of the dielectric's magnetic field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is an easy enough experiment to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Step two is to lock the PZT disk in place, so it does NOT move.
>>>>>> Replace the single top metal electrode with a series of pie-slice
>>>>>> shapeed electrodes arranged in a disk shape (kind of like a
>>>>>> sliced pie, with the metal pie slices separated with a small
>>>>>> gap). You also replace the lower electrode with a similar series
>>>>>> of pie-slice electrodes. Instead of rotating the PZT disk, you
>>>>>> instead sequentially charge/discharge the pie segments of the
>>>>>> electrostatic disks. You would, thus, in effect, be creating a
>>>>>> *rotating electrostatic field*!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The obvious question now, is whether you would then be measuring
>>>>>> a rotating magnetic field above the PZT disk? As far as I know,
>>>>>> there is no limit as to how fast you could sequentially charge
>>>>>> the metal disk segments; in other words you could create a
>>>>>> phenomenally fast rotating electrostatic field, and since there
>>>>>> is no CURRENT flowing, that I can see, there likely is not a
>>>>>> counter-emf force you have to fight!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/3/2019 8:57 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoelectric_effect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostatics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bert, If we are to fully understand AG and EMP, we need to
>>>>>>> understand the subtle differences from normal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The current debate is how to shield against EMP and Space
>>>>>>> Radiation, magnetic. Pay particular attention to the first
>>>>>>> topic, especially magnetostrictive and piezo materials
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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