Re: [EVGRAY] Re: shielding from EMP?

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Hi Ole,

Yes I think a sandwich of mumetal and silver would work well.   Perhaps
a dual layer iron could create a more secure cocoon to steer the field
around everything.  No I don't think the B field can be shielded only
something that steers the flux around it.

How did you find out the Checkurkov device destroys electronics?

You seem to know a bit about this device, do you know if he did stop
experimenting with the device as someone commented?
Do you know where he got the idea to build the device?  I think I recall
something about he said the schematics were all public of something very
close to it. 
The opposed spinning magnets would create the reconnect and then I think
the ultrasonic emitter along with the hi voltage ion field likely
cohered the reconnect energy into one happy vortex.


Thanks,

Mick

On 3/2/2019 12:22 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> By the way it doesn't seem to be possible to shield the motional
> electric field. This makes even toroidal wound transformers radiate.
> The field from Alexey Chekurkov's levitating device destroys
> electronics. The Searl effect generator also interacts with electrical
> systems. Both of these devices having mechanical rotating charges make
> them generate motional electric fields.
>
> Regards
> Ole
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> ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :
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> Hi Mick,
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> Iron is a good magnetic shield. For fast rise time a good electrical
> conductor like copper or silver will do too. The magnetic field
> induces eddy currents in the electrical conductor which mirrors the
> magnetic field and thus cancels it on the inside or outside of the
> shield. Iron with its greater electrical resistance dissipates more of
> the magnetic field as heat.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> As we know the E field can be shielded by a Faraday cage while the B
> field is another consideration.
>
> What is the best way to shield electronics from the fast risetime HV B
> field,  what type of cocoon would be best?
>

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