Re: [EVGRAY] Knowledge of the Ancients, Sacred Geometry
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This document by Joel McClain is key to your research and certainly helped us reason out our projects. . ___________________________________________________________________________ | From : KeelyNet BBS | DataLine : (214) 324-3501 | | Sysop : Jerry W. Decker | Voice : (214) 324-8741 | | File Name : PHI&RES.ASC | Online Date : 05/22/94 | | Contributed by : Joel McClain | Dir Category : ENERGY | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHI&RES.ASC THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RESONANCE AND PHI, AS DETERMINED BY THE FIBONACCI SERIES OF NUMERALS Joel McClain April 26, 1994 Because the symbol PI is indeterminate, the Egyptians used PHI in building the pyramids. They did this so that they could "square the circle", and create a square base which contained the same area as a circle. PHI simplifies the math required to square the circle, and is expressed as a constant of 1.618. This has come to be known as the Golden Ratio. To learn more about the Golden Ratio, please refer to the book "Secrets of the Great Pyramid", by Peter Tompkins. For the purpose of this paper, it is sufficient to know that this ratio can be very helpful in determining the true value in Hertz of notes on the diatonic scale. The standardized (1939) frequencies were accepted based upon the sound preferences, as opposed to the PI or PHI relationship of the notes. In a previous paper, I extrapolated the harmonics of standardized frequencies, proving the validity of Brown's Constant for determining harmonic values. However, this did not take into account the PHI constant from the Fibonacci Series, which gives us a more natural starting point. Further, there exists a correlation with the Fibonacci Series, which also produces PHI, and which can be used for reference. A Fibonacci Series is a list of numbers, where each number is equal to the sum of the two previous numbers. For example, 1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 is one such series. If you divide a number by the previous number, such as 55/34, you get 1.618, the Golden Ratio. As the numbers increase in value, the ratio gets closer to PHI. We know from previous study that a note has its first harmonic at the frequency of the note times the cube root of PI, which we have named "Brown's Constant". The numeric value of this is 1.3313. Let's see how we can combine this with the Golden Ratio and with the Fibonacci Series to create a diatonic scale that is based upon nature's laws, as opposed to men's ears: Start with the Fibonacci string of 144-233-377, and let's assign the value of 233 to the C note and you get, WHOLE FREQ RATIO TO PHI HARMONIC @ FREQ NOTE TIMES BROWN'S CONSTANT C 233 PHI @ 377/233 310 (F) D 263 CD RATIO = CUBE OF PHI 350 (G) F 310 DF RATIO = SQUARE OF PHI 413 (A) Page 1 G 350 FG RATIO = CUBE OF PHI 466 (C) A 413 GA RATIO = SQUARE OF PHI 550 (D) C 466 AC RATIO = CUBE OF PHI 620 (F) Now, we have frequencies which are balanced relative to each other, as well as based upon natural resonance. To check your answers, relative to PI, consider that PI = 4 DIVIDED BY THE SQUARE ROOT OF PHI, so PI = 4/1.272 or 3.1447, based upon the 377/233 ratio As with Brown's Constant, the numbers can vary, as long as the proportions are held constant. In other words, if you start your scale with a value of 377 instead of 233, and observe the same ratios, your chart will be as viable as anyone else's. Interestingly, the Fibonacci Series was understood by the Egyptians, and has been mentioned as a means for deriving "Magic Squares", once again, based upon the PHI ratio and relationship. I would encourage researchers to learn more about PHI, and to use it for resonance based designs, and to use the frequencies thus derived in their experiments. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- KeelyNet (214) 324-3501 is a FREE Alternative Sciences BBS Your file contributions and financial support are much appreciated! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2/18/2019 9:34 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > Here is the file TIMDEVIC.ASC from the Keely Net as left by Jerry > Decker. (RIP) > > _____________________________________________________ > | File Name : TMIDEVIC.ASC | Online Date : > 01/09/95 | > | Contributed by : Glenda Stocks | Dir Category : > ENERGY | > | From : KeelyNet BBS | DataLine : (214) > 324-3501 | > | KeelyNet * PO BOX 870716 * Mesquite, Texas * USA * > 75187 | > | A FREE Alternative Sciences BBS sponsored by Vanguard > Sciences | > |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| > I spoke with Mr. Harris around 5PM today and he says he applied for a > patent > on this device back in 1978 and it was rejected. A Dr. Marion Bowman from > Washington travelled out to Mr. Harris' home to witness the operation > of the > device. He was amazed and returned to Washington enthusiastic about its > applications. Shortly after this demonstration, all copies of the patent > application and other information subsequently disappeared from the > Washington > Patent Office. In addition, Mr. Stewart's home was broken into and his > original drawings, papers, applications and correspondence was stolen. > > Mr. Harris is disabled and has health problems which prevent him from > actively > researching the device himself. He tells me he built this thing in one > session as if it were inspired by some outside influence. As noted in the > following document, the 'flapper' resulted from a dream that helped > him solve > a perplexing problem with the device. Stewart said the unit provides > tremendous force and he had to use the tinker toy wheels TO SLOW IT > DOWN. He > has not yet placed it in a rotating wheel or rotary track though he has no > doubt it will drive a wheel or magnet. > > I informed Stewart of John Searls' rotating magnets and his use of a > circular > track with a cylindrical magnet placed horizontally on the track, > wherein it > would start moving around the track on its own. This is the very > basis of the > Searl flying machine. The same principle is used in the Hummel flying > disk, > the Howard Johnson patent, the Troy Reed invention, the Gary magnetic > motor > and several others. So, there is AMPLE GROUND for the claims of Mr. > Stewart > despite all the flames from those who live to create negative mischief. > > We here at KeelyNet will definitely experiment with the phenomenon and > report > not only to Mr. Harris as per our discussion, but also to KeelyNet and our > many other associates and networkers. If you choose to experiment > with this > or a version of it, please share your results with us and with the > inventor as > he has so kindly shared his work with us.......Thank you!........>>> > Jerry > > Also, I'd like to thank Glenda Stocks for sharing this > fascinating file with the KeelyNet group and our associates!! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Theory of Magnetic Instability > A device by Stewart Harris > > Origin: XBN - 0004 - F:NSHIFTCP > From: STEWART HARRIS > To: GLENDA STOCKS > Date: 01/04/95 at 19:10 > Re: VOLCANIC ACTIVITY > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Glenda: > > > I have used this in the hopes I will not be out of line with regard to > > crossposting information you expressed interest in with regard to my > > device. > > > What follows is postings on the device by others on RIME, Science. I > > will put the headings on once, and then state who is posting for some > > form of brevity. > > > I must congratulate Judy Stein from New York as being both an observant > > writer but quite good in describing what she received from me. I have a > > videotape of my device in action, following by a video of the CNN > report > > I refer to wherein it shows NASA attempting to move a drop of water > up a > > single incline, and without success, it moving only halfway. I know why > > it will not proceed further. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Conference: 28,SCIENCE > > Date: 1994-06-22,14:36 > > From: JUDY STEIN > > To: JIM GOODMAN > > Subject: Harris device 1/2 > > > Let me use the terms "incline" and "decline" to refer to the two sides > > of each of the two peaks in the demo box, the terms referring to what > > the runner is doing when it traverses them (see diagrams). > > > The runner has the general shape of a barbell. Two Tinkertoy > wheels, one > > on either end, are the bells. Something that resembles a roll of > > Lifesavers strung on a rod forms the bar between the wheels--the > > Lifesavers, I gather, are circular magnets with a hole in the middle, > > I'd guess about a quarter of an inch thick and an inch in diameter, and > > there are eight or 10 of them strung on the rod. The Tinkertoy wheels > > are about an inch and a half in diameter. The runner looks as though > > it's about six inches long, total. > > > Cross section view > > runner starts here > \|/ > | > | | /\ /\ | > | | / \ / \ | > | | / \ / \ | > | / \/ \ | > |------------------------------- | > | | > | <--------- runner ends up here > |____________________________________| > > > The angles of incline and decline are considerably exaggerated in the > > diagram. It looks to me as though the declines are shorter and more > > steeply angled than the inclines; the inclines seem to be about 2.5" > > long and at 25 degrees, while the declines are more like 1" long and > > about 45 degrees (rough estimate). The height of the triangle looks > like > > about 3/4" or so. > > > On either side of the track are two additional rolls of these circular > > magnets (four in all), the rolls being at right angles to the > magnets on > > the runner. Each of the two rolls of magnets on either side is set > at an > > angle to match the angle of the inclines. > > Top view > > |<--track-->| > ____________|____________ > | ___| | |___ | > | |___| (start) |___| | > | |___| |___| | > | |___| incline |___| <---------roll of magnets, positioned at > | |___| |___| | the same angle as the slope of > | |___| |___| | the incline > | |___| |___| | > | |___|____________|___| | > | | | | > | | decline | <-----------no magnets here, but not as much > | | | | space between the rolls as I've > | ___|____________|___ | shown > | |___| |___| | > | |___| |___| | > | |___| incline |___| | > | |___| |___| | > | |___| |___| | > | |___| |___| | > | |___|____________|___| | > | | | | > | | decline | | > | | | | > | |____________| | > | (finish) | > |________________________| > > > The runner is positioned by hand at the bottom of the first incline > (top > > of the top-view diagram). When it is released, it moves rapidly up the > > first incline, down the first decline, up the second incline, and down > > the second decline. When it reaches the bottom of the second > decline, it > > simply falls down into the lower level of the box (bottom of the > > top-view diagram). > > > It's clear the runner is *released*, not given a push. It has to be > > aligned correctly. My guess is the person aligning it feels a pressure > > of the runner against his fingers when it's properly aligned. In the > > demo, the person aligns it and then simply lays his finger on the > rod to > > keep it from moving, then removes his finger, and the runner starts to > > move immediately. > > > These diagrams are very crude. The demo itself is extremely crude--as > > Stewart has said, it's a cardboard box with a lot of Scotch tape > holding > > things together. > > Stewart, you are right, she has done an excellent job of describing > it, and > the diagrams are good also. I will share this with the Keelynet BBS, > as they > are usually interested in devices like yours. If I get any feedback from > anyone, I will share it with you on the conferences. I will reproduce the > remainder of your file here for the I_UFO conference (where we discuss > UFO's > and New Science) and for other areas where I will share this information. > Let's hope that we will get feedback from other sources that will help > us all > to understand the force(s) at work here. :) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Following is a sample of Mr. Ken Stuckas accusing me of a hoax, and > eventually, fraud. > > This is part of what keeps me from doing a great deal with this. > > With no evidence of ill will on my part, Mr. Stuckas, a credentialed > scientist > on several Science echos, simply attacks me out of, what, pique or with a > sense to destroy me. I intend to find out more about this later in a > courtroom, but for now it is simply interesting to note. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-02,11:59 > From: KEN STUCKAS > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Harris device > > -=> While eating a book entitled "Harris device", Stewart Harris mumbled: > > SH> I did not understand what the gentleman said myself. How can I create > SH> an optical illusion in a video studio under the eyes of commercial > SH> photographers with cardboard and scotch tape. > > Easy. You just ask them to tilt the camera at the same angle that the > device > is tilted to disguise the fact that the whole thing is going down > hill. Mind > giving me the phone number of the commercial photographers who made > the video? > > ***I supplied this for him, but he never called. > > SH> As for sending a tape, being poor, unwilling to change that situation > SH> by effort and disability, I am limited to sort of one tape a month, > SH> (Cost about $15. Can't infringe on Helen's bingo money.) I am afraid > SH> latecome and hostiles will have to wait a very, very long time. > > Oh, you aren't willing to make money off someone who understands > science, huh? > You confuse skeptical criticism with hostility. How interesting. I > don't think > it's ethical to use this echo to advertise a product, let alone one that > claims to violate the well-known and accepted laws of conservation of > energy. > If you mail these tapes, now you are putting yourself in the domain > the the > U.S. Postal Service which has the authority to investigate mail fraud. > > *** For the life of me I could not see how he translated an explanation of > my poverty into a refusal to make money from him. And to do you > see any > effort at advertising? It was a science echo. And I have never > made the > claims he states; scientists have stated if my device worked it > would do > that. But that is not what I say because I don't even have the > knowledge > to know it in the first place. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-02,11:59 > From: KEN STUCKAS > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Temporary energy stor 2/3 > > -=> While eating a book entitled "Temporary energy stor 2/3", Stewart > -=> Harris mumbled: > > SH> So my first premise, that permanent magnets are a source of energy or > SH> force, is correct according to what I read here. Yet you say > permanent > SH> magnets are not a source of energy. You seem to be supporting this by > SH> saying that my device is doing no work, therefore no energy or force > SH> is exerted. > > SH> I am saying I cannot understand how a weight can be lifted to a > height > SH> without work or force being done and without any energy input. > > Replace your magnets with springs and you will see the problem. A > compressed > spring has potential energy. I had to do work on the spring to load it > with > the potential energy. That work came from an outside source. Once the > spring > does work on some other system, I have to compress it again to get it do > repeat that work. > > A magnet and an iron bar separated by a distance possess potential > energy just > as a coiled spring does. Once they come in contact with one another or > just > get closer to one another I have to do work on them to separate them. > > *** As you can see from the drawings by Judy Stein, there is no > 'contact with > one another' and you will notice that the runner is close to the > magnets, > separated by wooden wheels, and they are never at any point along the > route up and down the inclines in a position where they have to be > 'separated.' This is the common objection, the 'lines run > perpendicular > and result in only attraction/repulsion' approach of current > science. I am > demonstrating that the mass is moved parallel to the lines of > force, there > is no magnetic lock, and, therefore, no need for that 'extra work' to > 'separate and reset' the magnets or springs. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: KEN STUCKAS > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Temporary energy stor 3/3 > > -=> While eating a book entitled "Temporary energy stor 3/3", Stewart > -=> Harris mumbled: > > SH> Now as far as a weight being at a height, I seriously doubt there is > SH> even a bad engineer or cannot work out some way to put that weight to > SH> good use. Yet as I understand what I am being told, either I > cannot do > SH> what I say and I am lying, or lifting a mass to a height is not > useful > SH> and cannot have any benefit to mankind. > > How did that weight get to that height? You had to do work on it to get it > there, right? When the weight has fallen and, in the process, done work on > some system then I need to do work on the weight to lift it back up to > that > height. > > You cannot violate the law of conservation of energy here in the world of > classical mechanics. I will absolutely guarantee you that in the > device you > are demonstrating, the total potential energy plus the total kinetic > energy > at the beginning is greater than the totals of those values at the > end. You > have lost some small amount of energy through the heat of frictionand > aerodynamic drag. > > If the video you made seems to violate these principles then you have > tilted > the device at such an angle so that the device operates by going down > hill and > if you have deliberately and knowingly tilted the video camera at the same > angle to make the device appear level with the intent to decieve > others, then > that's fraud. > > *** Again, since it cannot be true because it would violate his laws of > physics, I must, then, be hoaxing the situation. This is also > common in > all rebuttals to new science or ufo technology. He says that if > the video > shows the mass as going up, then it must be going down because I > had the > photographer tilt it, making it appear level, and that is fraud. > He later > denies this. > > SH> What is my goal? One is not scientific and not applicable in this > SH> echo. The other, and the reason I got into this with you and others, > SH> is to see if there is some way to explain what is being done without > SH> running into the initial blocks I came across some 18 years ago; > SH> namely, objection to the device because it will violate some physical > SH> laws. > > Your only out is to appeal to those who believe in pseudoscience by > claiming > the effect to lie in the domain of quantum electrodynamics. In that case I > refer you to Chapter 12 of the recent book by Murray Gell-Mann, the > 1969 Nobel > laureate in physics "The Quark and the Jaguar." Chapter 12 is called > "Quantum > Mechanics and Flapdoodle," which points out the errors of just about > everything that Judy Stein believes in. > > SH> You and others put your fingers on what I consider to be a way out, > SH> and I am only exploring that possibility now with what I propose to > SH> build. > > SH> If my flapper is successful, and I see no reason for it not to > SH> succeed, then I believe that the downward, pendulum-like swing which > SH> will bring the mass back into the track is a source of energy drawn > SH> upon from outside the system, which would be perfectly normal and > SH> would violate no laws. > > Your intuition is apparently unaffected by scientific understanding. > > SH> As to how long it will continue to operate, I don't know. > > It will operate for exactly one cycle unless you are being deliberately > deceptive. > > *** Here, since I did complete the 'flapper' since this dialogue, it > has gone > more than one cycle, so I guess I am being deliberately deceptive. > Now you > see why I have no real wish to go further and show this to the world. > Ken Stuckas is simply a clone for all the scientists who have > ragged me > for 19 years now. It is not worth it. > > *** Judy Stein rebuts some of the accusations of this being rigged, a > hoax, an > optical illusion, a fraud. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-06-30,17:19 > From: JUDY STEIN > To: ERIK FRANCIS > Subject: HARRIS DEVICE > > EF>> Whether his device actually produces any "net work," I'm not > EF>> qualified to say. But I'm cracking up at your "optical illusion" > EF>> description. You'd have to actually see the demo to realize how > EF>> hilarious that is. > > EF> Keep in mind that unless one has direct three-dimensional access to a > EF> device, optical illusions and tricks are always possible (or, rather, > EF> much easier!). Not that this is the case; but it is always important > EF> to realize that it might be. > > *** Mr. Francis is far more rational and polite, but there is the > underlying > inference that it could be something which one is not really > saying. This > is why I stopped sending out the tapes. Just more of a hoax, much > as UFO > tapes are hoaxes. > > I understand; this is certainly the case in theory. But I think if you > were to > see the demo you'd realize why I said what I did. > > (Not that this addresses your objection, and it isn't what I'm > referring to, > but on the demo tape the apparatus is shoved around by hand (with the > camera > running) so you see it doing its thing from all angles, several > complete runs > from each angle. There are also closeups, with the camera right on top > of the > apparatus.) > > I don't quite know how to say this without sounding like I'm > deprecating the > device, but it's really a rattletrap thing, like what a kid would throw > together. It wouldn't get any prizes at a high school science fair, > it's too > messy, too crude. The *diagram* I posted here is more precise than the > device. > I made neater dollhouses out of shirt cardboards when I was 10. > > *** Ms. Stein was right in one sense. It would not win a prize in a high > school science fair. However, I must add that the son of a friend > in Las > Vegas, who has been to the house many times and played with the > device, > built a more suitable duplicate (Another reproduction I forgot to > add to > that of the two gentlemen in Fido Science), and he won his high school > science fair, and was second in the State Science Fair here in Nevada. > That young man was Michael Wood, Son of Dennis Wood who posts on > several > fido echos. > > It is really barking up the wrong tree to suggest Stewart is trying to > pull a > fast one with this thing. I don't have any idea whether it's > significant or > not, but it is whatever it is and not something pretending to be something > else. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-02,01:02 > From: JIM HARFORD > To: RON FREIMUTH > Subject: Harris device > > . RF> From Judy's diagram it appeared the mass exited your system > with a . > . RF> velocity at exactly the height it was started. It would be hard > to . > . RF> explain the kinetic energy of the mass at this point. . > > It would be hard to explain only if the potential energy (energy of > position) > of the mass was entirely gravitational. Then potential energy would be > exactly > proportional to height. But since part of the potential energy of the > mass is > due to the magnetic field that simple relationship is destroyed and > one can no > longer visually determine whether what Judy saw is something ordinary or > something extraordinary. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-02,21:02 > From: ISRAEL SILVERMAN > To: RON FREIMUTH > Subject: Harris device > > RF> From Judy's diagram it appeared the mass exited your system with a > RF> velocity at exactly the height it was started. It would be hard to > RF> explain the kinetic energy of the mass at this point. > > This is correct. This is what I have seen as well. > > RF> Will the mass still have any velocity if the exit point is exactly at > RF> the initial height? > > The exit point appears to be at the same height as the entrance point. > However, the device unfortunately terminates PRECISELY at the end of the > second hill, and it becomes difficult to judge how far and whether the > roller > would have continued for any distance after the end of the device. At > the end > of the device, the roller literally falls off the device onto the > floor or a > waiting hand. > > *** This lack of movement at the end is strictly a matter of design. The > duplicates made by other gentlemen do proceed far beyond the end, and > there is even comment on this point as being one of the problems that > science faces in explaining this, as is alluded to in the above > comments. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-02,18:37 > From: BRIAN WHATCOTT > To: RON FREIMUTH > Subject: Harris Device > > RF> From Judy's diagram it appeared the mass exited your system with a > RF> velocity at exactly the height it was started. It would be hard to > RF> explain the kinetic energy of the mass at this point. > > RF> Will the mass still have any velocity if the exit point is exactly at > RF> the initial height? > > I can say, sight unseen, the runner could have appreciable velocity if it > exited HIGHER. > > You wouldn't be surprized if a wad of paper could shoot higher from an > elastic > band, surely? Remember, if there's initial repulsion before the runner is > placed on the track, that's potential energy for the acceleration phase! > > *** This is the general objection to the continuous motion aspect of this > device. The 'flapper' is designed to demostrate that this > shortcuts the > repulsion aspect of the Theory of Magnetic Instability I have put > together; and this shows that the mass or runner can actually > start from > scratch without the impetus of any passage through a repulsion phase. > > I realize the PE is a function of height and distance from the magnets. > > Now, I don't know how those disk magnets are stacked. All in the same > direction? If the moving mass were magnetized one could stack the > magnets to > first attract, then repel. Equivalent approximately to a parabolic gravity > well. A mass would accelerate to the bottom, then *nearly* reach the > top at > the other side. > > *** Notice "nearly". Yet my runner does not nearly reach the upper > apex, it > is accelerating at that point. Accelerating, so it is gaining > momentum. > > Add another force, gravity, and one can distort the well by adjusting the > curve of the track. > > *** Here is one of my problems with this whole affair. Is gravity an > energy > input or a force which is never consumed. If the latter, then COE > does not > apply at all. Is any gravity used up when all objects fall. When a > plane > flies, is gravity an input or a force. Thrust is required to overcome > gravity. I wonder why, when my mass is moved uphill against > gravity, no > work is being done similar to the thrust of an airplane engine. So > what is > the engine? It must be the magnets. But my magnets still work the > same as > they did 19 years ago. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-04,13:03 > From: ISRAEL SILVERMAN > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Harris device 1/2 > > SH> Never thought that, and it would not matter! You have not called me a > SH> fool, at least. Perhaps that is because neither of us is an expert. > SH> Only an expert can tell you the runner does not do what you see. I am > SH> used to it. > > I have seen the videotape, and I see it does what you are saying. > > I would, however, like to know how the magnets are arranged along the > track. > For, having seen the device, I am sure I can buy a bunch of magnets and > construct a similar device. Perhaps even make one that is a bit better in > terms of efficiency and arrange so that the output of one such device > leads > into the input of the other, and then repeat the output of the latter > into the > input of the first. A closed loop. > > For, science requires repeatability, and if you can get someone else > to repeat > what you have done, independently, then that shows something. > > *** The same argument made by gentlemen on Fido Science. And it was > reproduced > and the exact same suggestions were made with regard to putting it > into a > closed loop. That is what the new dream "from my aliens" showed me > how to > do with a great deal less expense than my own ideas. I have not > pursued > this with Mr. Silverman because I had given up by then. It was the new > dream about the 'flapper' which brought me bck to life. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-04,13:03 > From: ISRAEL SILVERMAN > To: BRIAN WHATCOTT > Subject: Harris Device 1/2 > > BW> Stewart, I believe you have given a moderate and up front account of > BW> your interesting machine. > > BW> You have never claimed perpetual motion for it, nor even long > BW> continued action. > > But because a closed loop could be constructed by joining output and > inputs of > 2 such devices, it certainly implies it. > > BW> I believe I understand the operating principle of your device: I > BW> believe you provide energy in placing the runner into its > BW> energetically favorable starting position. > > BW> You can easily test for this initial repulsion that must be overcome. > BW> You probably cannot even FEEL the force you are providing - a basis > BW> for your puzzlement, I'm sure. > > BW> But if you will suspend the runner on two long threads of cotton, say > BW> 24 inches long each, and GRADUALLY approach the runner to its > starting > BW> position on the track, you will find that the runner pushes back from > BW> its starting position, until it gets quite close, then it starts to > BW> pull forward. You will see the cotton suspension leans a little from > BW> the vertical. > > And how owuld this initial imparting of energy carry the device over the 2 > inclines? > > *** Notice the interesting question by Mr. Silverman at the end. The > proposition by Mr. Whatcott was done by me many, many years ago. > And this > is exactly what disproves that repulsion is not the initiating > impetus. > And Mr. Silverman's question is exactly what bothers me, in that I > can say > what it is, but it will not make scientists very happy. TOMI, the > Theory > of Magnetic Instability. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-04,15:52 > From: JUDY STEIN > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Harris device 1/2 > > SH> I tried very hard to remove my finger in a "backward movement" to > SH> avoid the impression it was being pushed. > > Indeed, that's quite noticeable on the tape. Once you have the runner in > position, you lay your forefinger over the center of the runner, then > release > it by drawing your finger back until it no longer contacts the runner, at > which point the runner immediately starts moving forward. It's clear your > finger is holding it back rather than pushing it forward. > > *** Interesting only to head off beliefs I push the runner at the initial > point of takeoff. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-04,13:03 > From: ISRAEL SILVERMAN > To: KEN STUCKAS > Subject: Harris device > > KS> Easy. You just ask them to tilt the camera at the same angle that the > KS> device is tilted to disguise the fact that the whole thing is going > KS> down hill. > > Of course, the people standing around while the device is being > operated and > moved around, since they appear to be standing straight up with > respect to the > device, must have also modified the law of gravity. I don't think > shifting the > device and camera will act to change the gravity vector. > > KS> If you mail these tapes, now you are putting yourself in the domain > KS> the the U.S. Postal Service which has the authority to investigate > KS> mail fraud. > > As you probably don't recall, he said he didn't mail often since he didn't > want to take money, and it cost him moeny to make and send. > > *** Even I do not have todefend against fraud, as those who have seen > the tape > will attest to my integrity. > > *** What follows is a description of the NSA experiment I refer to. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-04,15:56 > From: JUDY STEIN > To: STEWART HARRIS > Subject: Harris device > > SH> I would love for you to give a comparably lucid description on the > SH> NASA experiment which I included on that tape. > > It shows a closeup view of what appear to be a series of drops of water > falling onto an inclined plane (about 10-15 degrees?), inclined from > left to > right. The drops fall one by one from some kind of nozzle that's right > above > the plane, close enough to it so the bottom of the drop touches the plane > before the top detaches from the nozzle. > > The instant the bottom of the water drop touches the plane, it begins > to move, > slowly as long as it's still attached to the nozzle, then with a burst of > speed when the top breaks free. > > Then there is an edit in the film, and the camera has apparently moved > slightly to the right. We see a drop moving very slowly up the plane, then > suddenly going faster, then slower again. The nozzle is no longer in the > frame, but presumably it's *just* outside the left of the frame, so the > increase in speed is, again, what happens when the top of the drop > breaks free > of the nozzle. But then after that initial acceleration, the drop > slows down > again as it moves out of the frame to the right. > > The drop looks a bit peculiar after it's left the nozzle; it looks > like a lens > (like a football flattened longitudinally) rather than a water drop > (in other > words, the bottom of the drop does not appear to lie flat on the plane > but is > rather turned up at the ends, the side view making it look as though > they're > pointed), but that must be a distortion of the camera view. > > I can't tell how large the droplets are, so it's hard to say how fast the > drops are moving or how great a distance they travel. In the second > shot, with > the nozzle out of the frame, it takes the drop about 7 seconds to move > from > the left of the frame (it starts partially inside the frame) to the > right and > disappear out of the frame. The motion, again, in this shot is > slow-fast-slow. > The acceleration and period of top speed is only about a second. > > I can't tell for sure, but it looks to me as though *just* as the drop is > disappearing out of the frame to the left, it speeds up again slightly. > > If the drops are what I think of as "normal sized," i.e., what comes > out of my > faucet when it's leaking drop by drop, I would guess the distance the > drop in > the second camera shot traverses is maybe three-quarters of an inch or > slightly less. > > 'Zat what you wanted?? > > SH> I am changing course and trying to get a local plastic company to > make > SH> the flapper. And I have a great idea for a toy: Look at the drawings > SH> of the hamster wheel. Can you imagine a track on the outside rim of > SH> the wheel, covered by decorations, with chairs suspended a la a > ferris > SH> wheel? > > Sounds neat. I wish I had a kid to play with it! > > SH> Maybe even a large wheel using no input other than the > "lifesavers." I > SH> love that, Judy. It's the most clear but most amusing description I > SH> have heard about this in 18 years. > > I'm surprised nobody has come up with it so far; it seemed fairly > obvious... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: JUDY STEIN > To: KEN STUCKAS > Subject: Harris device > > SH> I did not understand what the gentleman said myself. How can I create > SH> an optical illusion in a video studio under the eyes of commercial > SH> photographers with cardboard and scotch tape. > > KS> Easy. You just ask them to tilt the camera at the same angle that the > KS> device is tilted to disguise the fact that the whole thing is going > KS> down hill. Mind giving me the phone number of the commercial > KS> photographers who made the video? > > You didn't take the trouble to read any of the earlier posts > describing the > device, including my detailed description, with diagrams, of what is > seen in > the demo tape. Yet you're willing to accuse Stewart of possible fraud > when you > don't even have a clear mental image of what it is we're talking about. > > With the camera running, the box, which rests on a table, is shoved around > from one position to another so that the camera can film repetitions > of the > action at all angles. To continuously adjust the tilt--not just of the > box but > of the table, the walls of the room, and Stewart himself, much of > whose body > is visible standing beside the table as he turns the box around and > positions > the runner--to maintain the deceptive angle, you'd need a room-turning > mechanism far more elaborate and precise than that used to film Fred > Astaire's > famous dance on the ceiling. > > I don't know how you'd calibrate it even so, because the box is shoved > around > the way you'd thrust a cereal box at your breakfast companion sitting > across > the table from you. Stewart is not a dancer, and moreover he has a > gross hand > tremor. And the camera is hand-held, not steady at all. > > KS> yourself in the domain the the U.S. Postal Service which has the > KS> authority to investigate mail fraud. > > Ken, this is just off the wall. You just breezed in for one of your > infrequent > visits, and you have no idea what has been said previously. Stewart > doesn't > charge for the tapes. He's telling you he only sends out tapes when he can > afford to pay for them out of his own pocket. Earlier someone offered to > reimburse him for a copy, and he flatly refused. You want a copy, get > on his > list to receive it free, but it seems there are a few folks ahead of you. > > You owe him an abject apology. On several different counts. > > KS> same angle to make the device appear level with the intent to decieve > KS> others, then that's fraud. > > What if it's not going downhill? > > *** Mr. Stuckas and many others worry about Mr. Silverman's question > quite a > bit. It is just this which makes me go on. Otherwise, I would not > bother > any longer. > > SH> As to how long it will continue to operate, I don't know. > > KS> It will operate for exactly one cycle unless you are being > KS> deliberately deceptive. > > In the demo, it operates for two cycles (which is all the demo device > has on > it). Stewart is referring to how many two-cycle runs it will do over time. > There are something like 15 or 20 on the demo tape. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: RON FREIMUTH > To: JUDY STEIN > Subject: Harris Device > > RF> Do you know what magnetic material is in the runner? > > JS> They're flat circular magnets with a hole in the middle, > > > strung on the runner's "axle" like a roll of Lifesavers. Stewart said > > elsewhere these magnets are available at Radio-Shack. Looks like > > Yeah, got that from Brian, too. > > This means the runner can be attracted or repelled by other magnets. One > effect is that the hills can be effectively moved zerbelow o height, > as far as > potential energy goes. > > One needs put only enough energy into the system to overcome friction. > > *** This post caused me to wonder what happened to overcoming the force of > gravity going up the declines? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-18,18:31 > From: BRIAN WHATCOTT > To: RON FREIMUTH > Subject: Harris Device 1/2 > > RF> OK, I wasn't aware the runner had magnets. Bet one has to supply work > RF> to get it in position. The energy then runs the device through > > Interesting: he said that if you approach the track at more than 45 > degrees > from above, you don't see repulsion. I guess that maximum repulsion is > felt > from 45 degrees low.... > > *** Here is the crux of the 'flapper.' There is no repulsive effect > above 45 > degrees, not low. And the work supplied to get it into position is > gravity > at work. Then, since gravity is not a source of energy, and the > magnets > are doing all the work, there is no new input. If you consider > gravity a > source of energy, then COE is shoved out the window. It is a > paradox which > needs answering. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: JIM GOODMAN > To: BRIAN WHATCOTT > Subject: Maglev Devices > > BW> (Believe it or not, there are no known perpetual motion machines. > BW> Sorry!) > > shucks, you caught me stirring the pot. I don't believe that Stewart > Harris > has designed a pmm either, but he may have found another force. I'm > betting on > some magnetic like force. see the Newman device discussion. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-22,09:51 > From: JIM GOODMAN > To: JUDY STEIN > Subject: MAGLEV DEVICES > > [Harris device] > > JS> I'm not really even all that clear on what the *problem* is with it. > > tanstaafl:there ain't no such thing as a free lunch > > this means that there is no perpetual motion machine. something has to > power > it. I'm interested in finding out what (force) makes the device run. > Nobody > believes that a static magnet will make a mass speed up slightly, > indefinitely. a magnet will reduce friction (meglev), but not power > anything. > > Jim > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-07-29,09:25 > From: BRIAN WHATCOTT > To: JIM GOODMAN > Subject: Maglev Devices > > JG> following a magnetic track is simple. But both Harris and Newman have > JG> reported the device operates indefinitely. It is a source of energy. > JG> The > > As far as I could see, Stewart NEVER claimed his machine operated > 'indefinitely'. > > My understanding is, he claimed > > 1) His machine operated 'repeatedly' over an extended period of years, > with no > loss of vigor over the one two or three 'hills' he arranged. > > 2) When arranged in a circle, his runner on rare occasions could reach and > pass its starting point. > > 3) He hoped that by suitably transporting the runner back to its start > position, he could make the action repetitive ( a surely forlorn > hope...) > > *** Notice the lament. It is catching. I really don't want to even > present the > evidence, since it will disrupt so many people from their lifetime > beliefs. It is not worth it at all to create disruption. I was > proud of > this in one sense: no pollution and no possible harm to people. It > does > not seem that that is true any longer. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 1994-08-02,16:47 > From: BRIAN WHATCOTT > To: JIM GOODMAN > Subject: Maglev Devices > > JG> crosses the surface. I guess that the surface did not enclose all of > JG> the energy sources (sun) that the Harris device uses. Therefore the > JG> system is open and all bets are off. One of the sources of energy > from > JG> the sun is a pumped magnetic field. > > I postulate that the resistance that the runner encounters on > approaching the > start of the track is the source of its motive power. > > *** Another iteration of the standard objection. But the 'flapper' > does not > run the runner in a position where it ever encounters resistance or > 'repulsion.' Eliminating that is the purpose of the 'flapper.' > Then what > comes next. I only offer this as references for answer which will > come if > I put the 'flapper' into public view. > > -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > > I hope this has been of some help and will answer some of your > questions as to > what it is and why I no longer go on any science echos. > > The 'flapper' has existed. I make that clear. It was destroyed twice. > Once in > cardboard version; once in Tinkertoy version. A new one is being built in > sturdy plastic, which should be able to resist the violent forces at work. > > The increase in force is due to removing the wheels as explained in the > description of the demo, then placing the runner in an enclosed > container, but > which allows it it move from one end to the other freely; and then > bringing > the container closer to the tracks. Al this combines to increase the speed > geometrically, it seems, until it very hard to catch the movement of the > runner. > > This is one source of the violence, when it climbs the incline of the > seesaw > with the weight shifting from the low apex to the top. Of necessity, > it must > be stopped and that meant it is locked in and hits the end of the > container > every time it climbs of the incline. The acceleration is tremendous and it > hits that wall with quite a bit of force. It knocked the ends off my > cardboard > model and simply shot out the tube/container. > > Then there is the downward swing of the pendulum which brings the mass > back > into the influence of the track without that famous passage through any > repulsion field or resistance field which is alleged to be the energy > input. > When it does enter the track, try to envision a change in direction: > > \ > ___\ > > which is quite radical and necessitates the entire frame be very, very > sturdy > and rigid. (It is ironic that the device is subject to such tremendous > forces > which seem to be destructive, when at the same time scientists claim it is > losing so much energy that it will stop. If it stops, it will be > because of a > buildup of force rather than a depletion, I believe.) > > Well, this is it, the total of what I can get out. I hope it helps > you. I have > asked my sysop to pick up I-UFO. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Internet: [email protected] > 1100 Dumont Blvd. #115, Las Vegas, NV 89109 (702) 792-9326 > Stand and Deliver! Or on your knees! Take your choice! > * Origin: * Vegas PlayGround! * 23 Nodes * (702)386-7979 * (1:209/276) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > On 2/18/2019 8:53 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> >> On 2/18/2019 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> >>> https://youtu.be/zoMk0estzXc The TIMDIVIC as discussed on the old KeelyNet BBS was a magnet runner track device that used the Orthagonal Magnet flux interaction that mimiced the Sacred Geometry Theory of the Vesica Pieces as shown in the video. Yes, the device was a rip off of the Searle magnet roller System. The dialog of the development of this system is hundreds of pages of dialog from the 1995 BBS of which I captured. >>> >>> See: =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 10870 DATE/TIME: 01/24/95 00:22 >>> >From : NORMAN COMPARINI >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hello, all: >>> Regarding the system described in this file, my own crude experiments >>> show that the system works to the degree that it will accelerate the >>> runner from zero velocity ( and no input force ) over several ramps ( >>> POSITIVE change in potential energy, PE ) via magnetic rails. >>> The key to this system's motion seems to be the use of attract forces >>> of the magnet to "pull" where needed, but then the earth's gravity to >>> break free from the magnet to "reset " the system subset. It must >>> break free or it will oscillate between the magnetic poles and reach >>> equillibrium. The sytem in this file uses a ramp to point the gravity >>> vector in the proper direction. >>> .. >>> Momentuum also plays a role in getting the "use " of the >>> gravitational force....hard to explain without sckketches..... >>> .. >>> I would like to know if anyone else has toyed with this design, as it >>> does not seem overly complex, and I feel that I am most likely >>> overlooking a subtlty ety that .......It >>> is interesting how the runner, being orthogonal to the two rails, is >>> able to sustain linear motion, and the goeometry cancels the torques >>> generated by two bar magnets out of parallel..... >>> .. >>> Help anyone? >>> .. >>> norm ( no, the other one ) >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 10916 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:13 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: (R) Timedevice >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Norm! Well, I built one tonite and it does exactly as described...a >>> cleaner construction with a guided pathway will make it run more better >>> and I think the alternately opposed tracks would work as >>> described...will clean it up some and try the alternate track thingy >>> for the next meeting....interesting principle, though a bit ragged in >>> the initial form...>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 10917 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:17 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN COMPARINI >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC Works >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Norm! Well, I did what you did and whupped one of those TMIDEVIC >>> things together tonight...it works just as described, most interesting >>> and I see why he needs the decline right after the top of the magnets >>> are reached...No doubt with a bit more refined construction such as a >>> smoother roller setup and a guided pathway, this dog'll hunt! >>> However, from what I can see of how the thing operates I think the >>> hamster cage apparatus won't work as first thought....but it leads to >>> some interesting speculations....I will let you know anything else that >>> comes of it designwise....>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 10918 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:20 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: Refer 10917 >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Glenda! Just wanted to let you know that Norman C. and I both have >>> duplicated the TMIDEVIC that you shared with KeelyNet and it does as >>> described....very simple, yet intriquing...will let you know what comes >>> out of it as to alternative designs and that includes Stewart >>> Harris...thanks for passing it along....>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 10930 DATE/TIME: 01/26/95 05:38 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> To : NORMAN COMPARINI >>> Subject: (R) Magnet drive >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Norm! As to getting power out of it, I have not even considered >>> that aspect because the thing has not proven unity, itself...if that >>> circular or U track allows it to run around powered exclusively from >>> the magnetic repulsion, then maybe a different geometry might be worth >>> trying....I agree with you....something I noticed on mine...the more >>> magnets I added to the sideways stack, the less overall force it >>> had....20 magnets per side seems to give about the greatest thrust >>> using a 10 magnet roller...that is an odd phenomenon that I don't >>> understand at this point...any ideas on why the force would seem to >>> weaken?? All I can think of is the longer magnet causes the field >>> lines to be more separated and thus weaker...>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 10996 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 09:57 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: TMI Plans >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are >>> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start. >>> >>> The magnets are Radio Shack part number 64-1885, normally 39 cents >>> each, but on sale now for 15 cents each. It costs $8.89, incl. the >>> sales tax, to buy the required 50 magnets. You will also need tape, >>> 48 pennies, and a piece of corrugated cardboard. It takes about >>> 30 minutes to put it together. You can either use a magnetic compass >>> or "trial and error" to get the magnets into position. >>> >>> Cut a piece of cardboard 8 1/2 inches by 6 1/4 inches. Fold it so >>> that each "up ramp" is three inches long, and each "down ramp" is >>> 1 1/4 inches long. Under the peak of each up ramp you will need >>> support, so tape together two stacks of pennies, six in each stack, >>> and put a stack under the middle top of each up ramp. >>> >>> Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a result >>> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them >>> anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides of >>> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you >>> will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set them >>> aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the side >>> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps". >>> >>> If you are using a compass, the magnetic alignment will be: >>> >>> second down ramp >>> >>> N S second >>> up >>> S N ramp >>> >>> first down ramp >>> >>> N S first >>> up >>> S N ramp >>> >>> S N runner >>> >>> The height of each ramp from the table top will be 9/16 inch, which is >>> the height of the six penny stack plus the thickness of the cardboard. >>> If you experiment with this and get better results with your own >>> methods, please share the information. >>> As Mr. Rogers might say, "Can you say MONOPOLE?" >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11003 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor perform >>> and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make it into a >>> continous running motor. "HOT". Everyone will jump right on this one >>> for it has so many- many applications. When kids drag this little >>> experiment to school and show it to their science teachers they will >>> simply go "NUTS". Ha! Ha! Next thing will be a run on Radio Shack >>> magnets, and their computer was go crazy trying to figure out where >>> this demand came from for magnets that last week they could not give >>> away. Well to put it this way they put them on sale for they were >>> moving too slow.Sounds sort of like we were all buying parts for the >>> "Lee Trippett" circuit. tHEY PROBABLY NEVER FIGURED OUT THAT DEMAND >>> CURVE ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM EITHER. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11019 DATE/TIME: 01/29/95 12:41 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: TMI..and thanks! >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Glenda, >>> >>> Actually, Stewart Harris and you did the favor for US by sharing >>> his ideas here...I'd like to know more about stewart's Theory of >>> Magnetic Instability. It's intriguing because, although the poles >>> of the magnets are aligned for a net repulsion, Stewart sees some >>> other definition of the forces at play. His definition works, as >>> opposed to that of his detractors, who apparently in their frus- >>> tration and desperation, have chosen to question him, instead of >>> actually building and analyzing the working device. >>> >>> Magnets are holographic and like holograms, maintain their image >>> memory in tiny molecule-sized fractal pieces. The forces which >>> create magnets force the substrate to simultaneously expand and >>> contract, then "freeze" the energy/matter into an imbalance. Mag- >>> nets are, I believe, in a constant state of energy collapse, which >>> is why they "attract" materials which have molecular structures which >>> "resemble" their own. As with any hologram, we see the effect, not >>> the 3-space reality. >>> >>> Stewart has been able to see and comprehend the reality, where science >>> has, by definition, limited itself to the (measurable) effect...and >>> it misses the boat. The "instability" part of Stewart's theory would, >>> I think, bridge the gap for us, if he will be kind enough to share it. >>> Stewart is a seeker (and sharer) of truth...he has friends here. >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11044 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 12:36 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: All aboard!! >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> The TMIDEVIC can be laid out as a "train track", and the "runner" >>> can be placed anyplace within that track, and it will move forward. >>> As it moves, it gains speed. I suspect that with a long enough track >>> and low enough surface tension, it might attain high velocity. >>> >>> The implications of this are enormous for rail transportation, far >>> superior to the "mag-lev" designs currently being built in Japan and >>> Germany. While there may still be a need for generators on TMI type >>> trains, for air conditioning, etc., the actual drive power is zero. >>> Small electromagnets could be used on the train for acceleration and >>> braking. >>> >>> For the "return trip", just reverse the magnets on the train. So much >>> more can be done...this is just one example. Converting the magnetic >>> fields into circular rotation as Stewart Harris did can begin to >>> eliminate our reliance on fossil fuels. Mass transportation can be >>> much cheaper than ever thought possible. >>> >>> The same principles will allow the electrical power that is needed to >>> be generated without any type of fuels. Regardless of what is said >>> today, I suspect that Mr. Harris will be remembered by history. >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11048 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 14:08 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: TMI Geometry >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Norm, >>> >>> Look at the TMIDEVIC again...the round magnets have torus shaped >>> fields. The 90 degree relationship between the runner and the rails >>> creates intersections at vesica pisces coordinates, which creates >>> a vortical energy flow on both ends of the runner, and the energy >>> increases as the number of intersections increases with the speed >>> of the runner. This dog can warp. >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11077 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:43 >>> >From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED) >>> Subject: Rollin', rollin', rollin' down de river >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JOEL MCCLAIN >>> and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 01/31/95 at 09:50 >>> -------------------- >>> Joel, >>> I'm not going to be able to build one of the roller magnet thingies for >>> quite some time yet. I've got those little round magnets stuck all >>> over the inside of the cab of my truck, and my main observation is that >>> they suck (or maybe don't suck enough?). They are pitifully weak! >>> I've not seen ads for neodymium magnets in this shape, but I bet they >>> are made. What would this thing do with neo mags, say about 50 times >>> more powerful than what you are currently using? Would it lock up, or >>> would it go ballistic? If you are getting positive results with these >>> wimpy magnets, it might be very worth while to test with doughnut neos. >>> I volunteer $25.00 toward purchase of these neos, if a source can be >>> found. >> Bert >>> =============================================================================== >>> essage 11083 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 11:18 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : BERT POOL >>> Subject: TMI Geometry >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Bert, >>> >>> I'd suggest using the cheap magnets at first, until you decide how >>> you want to construct your project. Magnetism is secondary to >>> geometry, and it is a matter of scale, not of effect. The effect >>> is the same. Even the weak magnets will accelerate uphill and >>> break the attraction at the top. PHI is the key, and it is constant >>> regardless of the (relative) strength of the magnets. >>> >>> It is in the overlap of the fields where vesica pisces forms, and this >>> is the PHI coordinate, where the same etheric energy which causes >>> particle spin will rotate the magnets. TMI applies sacred geometry >>> in a way which utilizes etheric energy and that is why it violates >>> the "known" laws of physics. TMI also shows us how to end our need >>> for fossil and nuclear fuels. >>> >>> Joel >>> ====================================================================== >>> Message 11084 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 12:08 >>> >From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> Subject: Rollin' >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Joel, >>> Does the device accelerate the entire length of the track? >>> If so, is the acceleration linear or exponential? >>> I have a circuit that should allow us to measure the velocity at any >>> desired point. If the acceleration is exponential, then a relatively >>> short track should allow acceleration of this device to absolutely >>> incredible speeds. If acceleration is linear, then a relatively short >>> track should allow acceleration to "only" incredible speeds. I know >>> the device as shown in the plans uses ramps. Will the mobile part >>> accelerate on a track with no ramps? If so, the acceleration should be >>> higher on a flat track v.s. a ramped track. Comments? >>> Bert >>> =============================================================================== >>> > Message 11003 >>> > DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49 >>> > From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> > To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> > Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> > Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> > Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor >>> > perform and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make >>> > it into a continuous running motor. "HOT". >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> ******************************** I offer: >>> >>> Actually, I had heard that Radio Shack was going to discontinue this >>> line of magnets. But they are available from most magnet >>> manufacturers, and in greater variations of strengths. I have had >>> models which constantly lift a runner which weighs about a pound. >>> >>> As for the kids and schools and science teachers, this TMI device >>> has already won a Clark County Science Fair for a 14-year-old boy, >>> and he almost won the State prize but got a bit uppity with the >>> judges and ended up second. Plus, he got uppity because the judges >>> neither understood what it was nor believed it was not a sham. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> Thanks again for your assistance. It seems my PMM devices will >>> become realities in the very near future. I don't know what the >>> science world will do. They forecast doom if I am right, yet I am >>> certain they will exert their outer limits of flexibility and come >>> to some consensus acceptable to all. I hope so. I certainly never >>> meant any harm to scientists or science; and I find it ridiculous >>> for anyone to believe I, one person, could do any harm. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Stewart Harris >>> >>> Internet:[email protected] >>> Internet:[email protected] >>> Las Vegas - Home of High Rollers, Aliens and the Good Life >>> and Continuous Motion!! >>> ... All things are difficult before they are easy. >>> * TLX v4.00 * >>> --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#31) >>> * Origin: Vegas PlayGround BBS * LV, NV * 24 Nodes * (1:209/276) >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11103 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:02 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: Message for Bill Teague >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> Life is based upon only two number sequences: binary and PHI, or >>> Fibronacci. Every bone in every vertebrate has a PHI relationship >>> with a connecting bone. All of the dimensions of butterfly body >>> size, wing width to height, etc., are PHI. The nautilus shell is >>> a perfect Fibronacci, starting with PHI before it is even over one. >>> Sunflower spirals are always 3 or 5 in one direction with 8 or 13 >>> in the other direction, corresponding with Fibronacci. The spiral >>> galaxy is a Fibronacci spiral. Plants grow blossoms according to >>> the Fibronacci series. >>> >>> Cellular mitosis is binary. Octave progressions are binary, although >>> note progressions are in PHI intervals within the octaves. The human >>> spine is tuned with PHI ratios in adjacent discs and octave intervals >>> in the spacing. The upper and lower body halves are a PHI ratio. >>> Standing with arms extended to the side is a PHI rectangle, within >>> 1/10000 of an inch for an average group of people. It takes 46 cell >>> divisions in binary sequence to replace all of the cells in the body, >>> and 46 is also the number of our chromosomes. >>> >>> It takes 13 sperm working in unison before one is able to enter to >>> fertilize the egg. The sperm loses its tail, and grows to the exact >>> size of the egg, and intersects with it at exactly vesica pisces, >>> or where its outer edge touches the center of the egg. This is the >>> zero point, and from here life begins. >>> >>> These examples are in all of nature. The Greeks used them in all of >>> their art, because they understood the geometry. The Romans didn't >>> have a clue, which is why Greek art is very beautiful while Roman art >>> of the same era is rather ugly. Most people, if they ever study PHI >>> in geometry are never taught how this is used outside of geometry. >>> It needs to be taught in music, and music needs to be taught in all >>> science courses, or they miss the boat. Hope this helps! >>> >>> Joel >>> =============================================================================== >>> Mick, do you understand why I said you need a crash course in Sacred Geometry?? >>> >>> >>> Message 11104 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:03 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : BERT POOL >>> Subject: Riiiver >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Bert, >>> >>> It's hard to describe without a picture of the power waveform super- >>> imposed over the distance waveform. The power leads the movement >>> like a square wave and a sine wave starting at the same point, be- >>> cause the power zero point occurs low in the distance curve, so the >>> peak pull differential becomes less as the roller gets higher. The >>> roller is starting to slow down before reaching the top of the >>> incline. >>> >>> However, the roller has enough inertia to pass the attractions at >>> the top of the incline, and start down the ramp. The power wave- >>> form stays above the zero point, and the peaks "fill in" if you >>> draw overlapping circles which encompass the overlapping waves. >>> >>> The overlaps are the vesica pisces coordinates, and they are where >>> the logarithmic spirals can be seen, which are the zero points as >>> far as power curve peaks. Now, since the TMI starts out going up- >>> hill, it seems reasonable that it should run like a bunny on a flat >>> track, and it does, and just keeps going faster. BTW, on the ramp >>> version, if the "rail" magnets are on the table instead of on the >>> ramp, the runner is faster because the net attraction at the top of >>> the incline is offset by the angular displacement of the fields. >>> >>> Clear as mud, right? >>> >>> Joel >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net >>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I >>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch >>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and >>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of >>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted >>> to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his >>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of >>> our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was >>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me >>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little >>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The >>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer >>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on >>> the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we >>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to >>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just >>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the >>> conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel >>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry" >>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI >>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making >>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the >>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk. >>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we >>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked >>> and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran >>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the >>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic >>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner >>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust >>> to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned >>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well >>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the >>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the >>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent >>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken >>> segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a >>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic >>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces >>> vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put >>> it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will have >>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non >>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing >>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of >>> excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is that >>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that >>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply >>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away >>> leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks >>> for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun >>> with this one. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11128 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 20:34 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : BERT POOL >>> Subject: (R) Rollin' >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Bert, et al! Stewart says the reason he calls it TOMI (Theory Of >>> Magnetic Instability) is because something odd happens when you join >>> individual magnets as opposed to one long magnet....there seem to be >>> little circles of influence where the fields don't blend totally and >>> these act as stairsteps of alternate repulsion/attraction....he says >>> you can try to use a long bar or cylinder magnet and it won't work. >>> He is definitely onto something with the observation....spoke with him >>> Sunday and have put him in contact with a friend who owns a >>> manufacturing and distribution company, both are very excited and >>> coming up with various doo-dads to market as novelties and >>> toys....really glad to see something is happening for Stewart, but it >>> is still young at this point as they are new to each other....something >>> about this reminds me of the barium 'flutter' as in the Sweet device >>> and also the Gary magnetic motor....>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11146 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 00:17 >>> >From : STEVE THATCHER -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> Subject: (R) MRA and other stuff >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> I certainly want to put my efforts in the best possible direction. I >>> have read all the messages concerning the TMI device and haven't put >>> together a mental model that I can build yet. It does sound simple >>> though. The thoughts I have been having regarding magnetism, electron >>> flow, photons, and emf all lump them in a similar category. Does anyone >>> therize that a photon stream carries a perpendicular magentic field >>> with it for example. I haven't studied up on the new photon theories >>> yet, but this one just kind of popped up as a question in my mind. Has >>> anyone produced a simple diagram for the tmi device? Maybe something >>> more concrete then message discussions will prompt me to order some >>> parts from Edmunds. Best regards, Steve Thatcher >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11149 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 01:00 >>> >From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Norm, you said: >>> >what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the >>> >Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the >>> >intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent >>> >that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken >>> >segments in the track as per the original plans. >>> >>> Could you elaborate on what you mean by "..Phi rate in relation to the >>> fixed magnetic track.."? This sounds very interesting. >>> >>> THX, >>> -Gerald >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11158 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 07:20 >>> >From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Jerry, >>> Thanks for the upgrade. I've been busy reading the past messages. >>> But I did take time to build a TMI device and it really works. Now I >>> need to search my current download for thoughts on the "Flapper" or the >>> "Tireless Magnetic Rodent". I couldn't believe how the roller took >>> off! Thanks to Joel for his instructions and especially for the tip for >>> about the Radio Shack part number. Bye, Paul. >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11169 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 10:50 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: Miracle of Flight in Nature >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Glenda: I read with great interest the message from Billy Teague where >>> he mentioned the flight of Hummingbirds bees and all of the other >>> Natural Aeronaughts. Since Joel and I are well into our education on >>> the "Sacred Geometry" then the following becomes perfectly obvious to >>> the "informed. Back some time ago there was a very good segment run on >>> PBS television (Nature or some other organization) about flight in >>> nature. When they showed a high speed photo sequence of a hummingbird >>> at a hover the researchers traced the wing tip paths and guess what >>> this trace drew? You are on the right track for now I can relate this >>> tracing directly to the VESICA PIECES that are nestred and intersected >>> exactly the same way that your little TMI device magnetic vortices >>> intersect to establish (running through the center of the vesica pieces >>> a resulting thrust vector which causes the lift. The energy is in the >>> form of resonant standing waves created by the wing beats or strokes >>> and are actually acoustic in fact. When you look carefully at the >>> intersecting wave forms they do not intersect straight on but are >>> actually closer to a 90 degree melding which results in the thrust >>> vector being established. When I went through the civilian and >>> military flight schools we mathmatically proved that insects such as >>> the hugh Japanese beatles and large bumblebees could not possibly fly >>> for the wing loading would be incredible and simply could not be done. >>> Well "mother nature" gave these little creatures the secret of the >>> "SCARED GEOMETRY" to achieve what our physics say is impossible. Can >>> you say there is a lot of power in resonant geometry? You bet and the >>> more we learn about it the more we will explain about the "NATURE" all >>> around us. There you have it, the secret of flight, just wish we had >>> the knowledge to apply it to our transportation problems. Maybe there >>> is something behind Jerry's men in silve suits seen flying around >>> useing some sort of acoustic resonant fields. more later. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11171 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 14:37 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : BERT POOL >>> Subject: Dances With Cows >>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" >>> >>> Howdy Bert, >>> >>> As the roller begins to move, it intersects more magnetic flux waves >>> per unit of time, which increases force per unit of distance, which >>> increases speed, which cause it to intersect more magnetic flux waves, >>> and so on. That is the advantage over a bar magnet, which has only >>> one set of distributed flux lines. Each of the little bagel magnets >>> (too hard to be donuts) has its own torus field. >>> >>> As to whether to use thick or thin magnets, and where to use them, >>> if the above paragraph is accurate, then thicker magnets would be >>> similar to bar magnets and tend to slow it down. I've found that >>> adding pennies between the magnets has the opposite effect, so that >>> thinner magnets with equal gauss and more spacing might be best. >>> You might even put springs in between the magnets at the start of >>> the track to give it a "slingshot" effect. >>> >>> The Radio Shack magnets have a 4.5:1 ratio of width to diameter, so >>> at the "giddy-up", you already have a lot of torque. A lot of thin >>> magnets would overcome inertia from startup, where spaced thick mag- >>> nets would govern speed. >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11173 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 17:12 >>> >From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> Subject: (R) Dances With Cows >>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" >>> >>> Joel, >>> >>> If the TMI device can be extended into a cyclic device, i.e., a roller >>> on a continuous track, the obvious result would be a free energy >>> device. If it can be done using permanent magnets, then it can be done >>> using electromagnets. A permanent magnet design would be super-simple; >>> only one moving part, no adjustments, etc., which is a good thing so far >>> as reliability goes. But if you use electromagnets, you gain >>> magnitudes of order more control over the operating conditions. If you >>> build a circular track device, and start changing the spacing between >>> the magnets, then you will by definition change the diameter of the >>> loop, which means large mechanical changes, which is a pain. If you >>> can do the equivalent thing by turning a potentiometer, life is much >>> easier. I expect a simple machine to use perm. magnets, and a machine >>> which can be regulated will use electromagnets in at least the track. >>> Actually, as I think about it, if you were to replace the roller magnet >>> assembly with a coil/armature, as it passes the stationary magnets it >>> becomes an electromagnet.....hmmmm, might work, yes? >>> >> bert >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11196 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 07:58 >>> >From : PAUL VISINGER >>> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) >>> Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Jerry. I'v been having great fun playing with my TMI device. When >>> the roller took off for the first time I was amazed and still am for >>> that matter. It required no finger push, in fact, I had to hold on to >>> it to get it into the proper position. I thought, "This must of been >>> what John Searle originally played with." So, I want to know more. >>> Where can I find out about "vesica pieces" -- I've seen it mentioned in >>> quite a few messages. Just point me in the right direction, specific >>> references would be much appreciated. Bye, Paul. >>> P.S. I've built several different configurations but now I want to go >>> circular! >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11197 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 08:07 >>> >From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: TMIdevice >>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >>> Hi Norm. If you've already answered this question I'll get it from the >>> downloaded messages or if you're too busy I'll understand that too. >>> I've built several different versions of the TMIdevice. The version >>> Joel described, a flat one and a ramped one with the runners flat and >>> now I want to build a circular one. In message 11108 you mentioned >>> that you, "Increased the spin rate of the roller or runner by the Phi >>> rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the >>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied..." How did >>> you increase the spin rate. What is the Phi rate in relation to the >>> fixed magnetic track. What and where are the intersecting vesica >>> pieces vortex patterns? Any help would be appreciated. I really like >>> your work on the MRA. Thanks. Bye, Paul. >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11200 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 09:08 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : PAUL VISINGER >>> Subject: TMI Device >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Paul: To answer your question which was asked by Gerald O'here goes. >>> If you roll the runner magnet assembly along a track your have a fixed >>> rate of helix magnetic flux interfaces that occur at 90 degree angles >>> between the fixed track and the rotating runner. If you mount the >>> runner or roller on a stainless steel shaft and mount a pinnion gear at >>> the inboard end or pivot end off the shaft running on a ring gear that >>> is a greater number of teath by the Phi ratio them as the moving arm >>> proceeds forward a spin rate of + Phi will be imparted on the spinning >>> roller and you will have eliminated the friction contact with the >>> track. Just visualize the differential gears in the rear-end of your >>> car for it has a ring gear and pinnion in a hypoid gear set which >>> allows a drive shaft RPM which is greater than the axle RPM by the gear >>> ratio. All I am doing is turning this arrangement around and letting >>> the pinion gear turn faster that the fixed ring gear. The central >>> pivot shaft of the whole unit has a DC generator attached to provide >>> the necessary loading to prevent the Searle Effect to progress to the >>> point of "lift Off". Believe me it will happen for when the rate of >>> intersecting magnetic flux lines of i >>> intersecting "vesica pieces" (will explain) are increasing to the >>> point that you have a plasma folding back on itself then you will start >>> seeing a corona or pink glow which happens when this beast achieves >>> it's "N" critical rotational speed. Searle claimed 3000 RPM was the >>> "N" crit on his disk but I'm sure it is a radius and perifial velocity >>> relationship somehow. Joel and I have tested the increased spin rate >>> and it does allow for a greater number of flux line intersections which >>> increases the torque and acceleration of the unit. We have resolved >>> the entire unit so that you do not have to have the broken segments it >>> the fixed magnet unit which we have formed into a contiuous circle with >>> only one outer fixed magnet with the rollers suspended on arms from a >>> central pivot point 6 each in number. Joel found that by spacing the >>> magnets apart with copper pennies the field effect was enhanced in the >>> fixed magnet unit. Basically it increases the little toroid flux lines >>> for there is a little leakage of flux trying to fold back in at each >>> little magnet interface (N-S) or junction. This becomes amplified when >>> you close the loop by making a continous circle of the little >>> "baggles", darnI like Joel's description of these little critters. You >>> really need to read all you can on the "Sacred Geometry" to fully >>> understand about the energies that are focused within the vesica >>> pieces. Joel is going back and modifying the Phi and Res file for we >>> have learned a vast amount of additional knowledge since this file was >>> created. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11206 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 14:08 >>> >From : BERT POOL >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: TMI or TOMI >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Well, I went with Norm over to Joel McClain's house last night, and I >>> was thoroughly instructed in the proper construction and operation of >>> the TMI magnetic propulsion device by Jake - a MOST astute five year >>> old! >>> >>> The device does exactly what everyone says it will do. The roller >>> wants to roll like hell. It will roll like hell with ONE row of >>> magnets, instead of two. If you extend the length of the magnets, and >>> I did extend it to about 18 inches long, it rolls the whole length, and >>> evidences NO intent to slow down or stop. If I had a couple of rows of >>> magnets that went from here in Dallas to California, I have no doubt >>> that little sucker would pull itself all the way to Gerald O's house! >>> I have some discomfort about a CIRCULAR track, unless it is large in >>> diameter, because there is a possibility that placing the magnets at >>> the required small angle to form a torus may affect the shape of the >>> interacting fields enough between the adjacent magnets to stop it from >>> working. But Norm's prototype will very likely work. I'm not sure >>> the PHI ratio gearing will improve performance, but even without the >>> additional rotational speed derived from the planetary gear, it should >>> still run. >>> >>> I've seen some neat things over the years, but nothing comes close to >>> this so far as simplicity and the fact that it moves! >>> >>> It moves! ........ it moves up hill. It damn near leaps in the air! >>> >>> It is going to be most interesting to see how far we take this thing. >>> >>> Bert >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11227 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 23:58 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: Dances with PHI >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Norm, >>> >>> Got my order from Am. Sci. & Surplus today...they actually do sell >>> things other than coffee mugs. Included was the "rattleback", or >>> "space pet", the ellipsoid that only spins CCW. If you spin it CW, >>> it rattles back and forth, stops spinning CW and spins CCW. I Know >>> that you aren't surprised that the ratio of width to height of this >>> device is PHI. Interesting how this was used in the geometry of >>> Noah's Ark. Also, if you add the width and height together and mul- >>> tiply them by Phi, then double the product, you get the exact length, >>> so once again it is the Fibronacci series (PHI) and the binary >>> series, which is the times two. Anybody could build an Ark just >>> by knowing the PHI ratio, and have a perfectly rock-less boat. >>> For some reason, the Celts used the exact same ellipsoidal pattern >>> on their knife and axe blades, but then they were primitives. >>> >>> Other stuff...the angles of the Great Pyramid are approx. 52 and 38 >>> degrees, as you know. The cosine of 52 and the sine of 38 (actually >>> the REAL measurements, not these approximations), are both 0.618, >>> the inverse of PHI. >>> >>> Moray King and Dave Faust sent a fax tonight, with a suggestion for >>> using a third coil around the MRA, and feeding the MRA in that manner >>> as opposed to directly connecting into the primary. They tried to >>> upload the info as a file but weren't able to...durn 'puters. >>> >>> Also, got a few radiac detectors...no particular reason, except they >>> were real cheap, so if you want one, it's yours. BTW did you know >>> that the half-life of U238 is 4.5 Billion years? Picked up that bit >>> of comforting info in the Pocket Ref book from A.S.&S. >>> >>> C'ya, >>> Joel >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11229 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:31 >>> >From : BILL BEATY >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: Bad Griggs News!!! >>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" >>> >>> All the internet traffic has made a local Seattle experimenter >>> approach me with some unsettling news about Griggs. This guy >>> says that Griggs was involved with Aquatech, the company which >>> had the Schaffer patent, that Griggs was sent by Aquatech to >>> install their products all over the country, that Griggs split >>> off with hostility to start his own company, and that Griggs >>> is not an inventor, but just took advantage of systems he was >>> working with already. This guy is Mike Huffman,[email protected]. >>> He has just entered a patent for his own Schaffer-based device, >>> which he has done mainly to keep it from being taken over by >>> others. He is being non-secretive, and is spreading info packets >>> around on his device so that others can duplicate it. >>> . >>> His device is a "cake" of plexi layers having routed channels in >>> the form of a slight spiral, which is then spun in a plastic >>> close-fitting chamber. He has just begun testing, and has not >>> had the equipment together yet to measure overunity. THe device >>> is a little 8" box connected to a 1/3 HP pump motor, and it boils >>> water in a couple of minutes. >>> . >>> Some good news: he says that Schaffer had a "pull start" >>> self-sustaining device working at one time, but Schaffer pulled >>> the old secrecy act, never told anyone how it works, and died >>> with the secret. >>> . >>> I told him the story of the Texas inventor with the self-acting >>> vegetable oil spiral turbine. He then told me the Schaffer story, >>> and wondered why these people always take it to the grave rather >>> than just let loose. He applauds the MRA efforts. I haven't >>> convinced him to call Keelynet yet, but will soon. >>> >>> cc: Norman Wootan >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> >>> Message 11231 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:58 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : PAUL VISINGER >>> Subject: Your MSG # 11198 >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> and you're welcome! >>> >>> Glad the info was helpful, and it's really great to see lots of >>> people looking into Stewart Harris' TMI device. It's truly excellent. >>> >>> I was most fortunate that Norm got hold of some fine material on >>> the 'sacred geometry', and is kindly sharing it with me. Actually, >>> it was Peter Tompkins' book, "Secrets of the Great Pyramid" that >>> turned me on to PHI, and the new material goes right into the heart >>> of anti-g, ZPE, etc., and it is all PHI related, as is all of nature. >>> >>> The term "vesica pices" is what Keely called the "neutral center", it >>> just defines it geometrically. The CBS eye is a vesica pices. When >>> you see it as a PHI proportion, you can connect with the concept in >>> a circuit where the fields overlap, or "breathe" into each other at >>> their centers. We can see this happening in the torus fields of the >>> circular magnets, and can therefore calculate optimum distance and >>> spin ratios using PHI. That's the 'secret' to the Schauberger >>> UFO design...three circles in octave proportion intersecting at >>> each other's neutral center...Fibronacci and binary. >>> >>> >From a less 'sacred' perspective, the TMI also has a 4.5:1 torque >>> ratio, based upon the 1/4" width and 1 1/8" height at 90 degrees >>> relative to each other in the TMI. The easiest thing for the roller >>> to do is to roll, and as it does, it intersects more fields per unit >>> of time, so it increases in speed at an increasing rate. It can only >>> go so fast before it intersects with half of the magnets on a round >>> track, and when this goes over 180 degrees, it should go airborne. >>> That's what happened, as you know, with the Searl generator. >>> >>> Glad you're actively researching...hit 'em hard. >>> >>> Joel >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11234 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 10:12 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: Save the Greys >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> For those who read messages # 11227 and 11231, where Noah's Ark and >>> UFOs are equated in terms of their use of the constant phi (í), you >>> may be wondering how this could be. Modern (at least Western) thought >>> does not provide the same "maet" concept as was used by the Egyptians >>> and others. The maet is a term which means that one set of principles >>> is at work in all things, and that a society can base its direction >>> and ideals on these universal constants. >>> >>> Because í is how nature chose to "work", anything that is going to >>> work within nature should emulate the í proportion to avoid working >>> against nature. That is why all living things use this ratio, and >>> why successful free energy devices use resonance. As seen in the >>> file, PHI&RES.ASC, harmony in vibrations is determined by the root >>> derivatives of í times frequency. Harmonies create resonance, and >>> overlapping resonances, as Keely demonstrated, cross the zero point. >>> >>> Walter Russell and others have been able to intuit the relationship, >>> but had they known the pervasiveness of í and used it knowingly, we >>> can only imagine how much further they could have gone. We have that >>> opportunity. It's only math, and really, it's very simple...da Vinci >>> and others understood it in our own recorded history. The problem >>> for some is that when you follow the natural progressions, it explains >>> too much...it can free mankind in ways that we are only beginning to >>> realize, as with the Incunabula and other forms of consciousness >>> elevating. These things are real, and can be accomplished naturally. >>> >>> I believe that we are entering the dawn of a whole new era, and that >>> whether we are ready or not, we will soon be entering a higher plane >>> of existance, including unity consciousness. It is a natural stage >>> in the evolution of the universe, and by understanding the constants >>> of the universe, we can simply walk into the light of that new day. >>> It is our birthright, denied to us by those who know the maet, but >>> who use it to "rule" with. As with the dinosaurs who once "ruled" >>> the earth with fear, these folks are facing extinction. >>> >>> I believe that ZPE has not been suppressed as much for the obvious >>> reason, as for the reason that understanding it of necessity leads >>> to the understanding of all else. That is why sharing this infor- >>> mation is so very important now. We can do anything that any machine >>> can do, and we give up our innate ability every time we use one. >>> Technology is a trap...the greys use machines as UFOs, and they are >>> now dieing out all over the universe. We can use our own energies >>> to create higher dimensional "UFOs", called merkabas, and free our- >>> selves of all need. We are ready now, and that is why the awareness >>> is being given. We have been, almost literally, asleep, through no >>> fault of our own. We are awakening now, and it's going to be a good >>> day. >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11237 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 11:13 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Well now that Joel and I convinced Bert that the effect of the Syewart >>> Harris TMI is real and has potential of running itself we are off and >>> running. Last night I worked out enough of the geometry of a circular >>> device to determine that I need a total of 800 magnets to finalize my >>> design of a unit with an outside diameter of 23 inches with 6 rotating >>> spokes carrying the runner or rollers. Nothing ventured nothing gained >>> as we say. If it does not work we (Bert, Joel and I) will have a lot of >>> little novelity toys around to play with <g>. Is there any other use >>> for these "crummey" little magnets? Keep the faith for we know there >>> is a way to make this into a workable device. We all have our own >>> ideas so we have to put them into hardware form to test out the theory. >>> It looks good on paper but the proof is in a working device. Right >>> Jerry?? I still want to see Jerry's Hamster Cage TMI work with the >>> little magnetic rodent continously rolling along in it like ferris >>> wheel ride except the magnetic rodent stays at the bottom of the >>> spinning cage. See Jerry, Joel and I have a secret camera hidden in you >>> living room. Ha! Ha! Just kidding. Norm PS: well it is off to the >>> Radio Shacks to clean out the remaining stock. Let's see, I have 460 >>> magnets now so I only have to find 340 more to complete this project. >>> =============================================================================== >>> essage 11239 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 13:06 >>> >From : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: The Ark, the laser and the UFO >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Just one other note for now on the "rattleback" or í designed device >>> which is the geometry of Noah's Ark. The longitudinal axis blocks >>> laser light by inverting the phase and cancelling it. In other words >>> laser light will not pass through it on the double í dimension. I've >>> tried it, and you can see the cancellation of energy occurring. >>> >>> A boat which is built on the same ratios does not rock in the water. >>> This has been tested empirically by a group of archaeologists who >>> built a small "ark" and found that it would ride over waves without >>> any feeling of motion. The end-to-end energy is cancelled just as >>> the laser light is cancelled. >>> >>> Put two rattlebacks together and you also have the shape of a >>> "classic" UFO. >>> >>> Joel >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11243 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:37 >>> >From : GLENDA STOCKS >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: light universe 1/3 >>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" >>> >>> >>> 27 Jan 95 01:24:12 >>> By: Ian Wilson >>> To: All >>> Re: Universal Vision >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> The Geometry of Light into Matter >>> >>> The model is a representation of a vision that I had where I saw >>> sub-particles of matter as units of consciousness. The following is >>> an overview how the order of this consciousness relates to itself >>> and combines to create physical matter and the laws of cause and >>> effect. >>> >>> The area of thought that this vision contained was relationships in >>> numeric unity and geometric form. I am still researching several >>> outlets to this form and attempting to articulate as much as I can >>> the vision as it creates itself in to logic and unity. >>> >>> Keep in mind that this model is a representation and it's a small >>> tool to observe relationships in energy and thought as well as it's >>> relationship to matter. The nature of this is from the science of >>> spirit into the logic of matter so you may find some of the concepts >>> not adhering to linear time rather (to) events happening in infinite >>> timeless expressiveness. >>> >>> A single group or sub-particle is a separated unit from a whole. >>> This whole is represented by infinite timeless existance and ties >>> into an order of thought that addresses a universal consciousness >>> that is self- actualising and expressively harmonious. Light and >>> pure thought was the intended model as a representation of this >>> universal infinitum. And all aspects of this universe was divided up >>> into an infinite number of parts. When these parts descend into >>> matter, they transform from light [energy] into physical matter. >>> >From there laws are establised creating the structure and physics >>> that we form in our science. >>> >>> For what ever reasons, the model for the singular personafied unit >>> of an infinite order was represented by this following model : >>> >>> >>> 12 This model has 12 sides. >>> 11ÚÄÄÄÄ¿1 We add 12 by it's numbers to get 3 >>> 10 ³ ³ 2 >>> ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ eg. 12 : 1 + 2 = 3 >>> 9³ ³ 3 >>> ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÙ We do this to fit it into a feild of >>> 8 ³ ³ 4 unity >>> 7ÀÄÄÄÄÙ5 >>> 6 >>> >>> This singular unit is a part of a greater body of energy. In it's >>> material state, it combines with other particles forming >>> relationships and bonds. The bonds were represented by a loving, >>> harmonious recognition of self and other parts of self. Since this >>> energy is light and light has consciousness this unit is self-aware. >>> The relationship was called a family and from this family we have a >>> molecular order. >>> >>> The particles then bond in harmonious order to form larger matter >>> based relationship. Keeping in mind that all matter comes from a >>> universal field of light energy that has altered it's frequency into >>> lower vibrations to form matter. But in it's pure state, it is the >>> same: Light. We can take a look at Einsteins theory of relativity >>> 2 >>> where E=MC This formula represents the relationship of matter and >>> light as energy. >>> >>> And all this light has consciousness. This key (that) is lacking in >>> our science is that energy is consciousness and aware that it >>> exists. That it is self aware. And self is what this model is >>> representing. >>> >>> When light in matter unifies, it forms a relationsip with other >>> particles according to laws of relationships between matter and >>> light. This becomes a greater whole and we'll form how this order >>> creates a larger sub-particle. >>> >>> We'll look at four groups of consciousness forming a single particle >>> of matter in a relationship. That particle has a unified number and >>> it has a relationship; we look at 4 units. >>> >>> >>> >>> ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ 4 units X 12 sides = 48 >>> ³ ³ we add 48 together to unify the number >>> ÚÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ >>> ³ ³ ³ 48 : 4 + 8 = 12 >>> ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄ´ >>> ³ ³ ³ ³ And we have 12, which in turn adds to 3. >>> ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ >>> ³ ³ ³ ³ >>> ÃÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÙ >>> ³ ³ ³ >>> ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÙ >>> ³ ³ >>> ÀÄÄÄÄÙ >>> >>> What physical matter reality represents is light at a denser >>> vibrational state. Since light is consciousness, it was by thought >>> that the light had lowered itself in it's vibration into sub >>> particles. And it was this light in it's thoughts that formed >>> frequency, matter and fields of energy et al; the laws we strive to >>> understand. >>> >>> The order comes from attraction and replusion. Since light in a >>> matter state creates a resonance of vibration it has a magnetic >>> order. Electro-magnetic fields form at various frequencies and this >>> identifying order creates the grounds on which matter collects into >>> it's schools of particles and families. >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11244 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:40 >>> >From : GLENDA STOCKS >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: light universe 2/3 >>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" >>> >>> >>> The Universe as a Whole. >>> >>> When addressing any universal concepts we scientifically see the >>> universe in terms of light, energy and matter. Energy being neither >>> created nor destroyed, just transformed into one stage or another, >>> but it is all energy, and the more groups of energy unified in one >>> frequency or pattern the more intense and focused the energy >>> becomes. >>> >>> The universe is intelligent and energy has intelligence. Our >>> thoughts are comprised of electrical charges passing through neural >>> transmitters in the synapse. This unified balance of patterned >>> energy and it's applications give us intelligence, but intelligence >>> is still energy. >>> >>> The reason we think on a human level is because we have a specific >>> frequency of thought energy and it's relationship in it's creative >>> design gives the framework for our consciousness and directs or >>> controls this intelligence for the purpose of this linear human >>> experience. This is commonly noted by brain wave patterns alpha, >>> beta, theta, and delta. Controlled frequencies of neural energy >>> (Intelligence). >>> >>> We are focused particles of energy, matter and light formed in a >>> very specific design to comprise the experience we are. And it is >>> now very important to start to address thought and it's influence on >>> itself. Energy reacts to thought. But we are getting into a series >>> of concepts that humanly has been denied or submersed by the >>> inability of our thinkers to grasp that their thoughts are an energy >>> and are influencing creatively the effects of thought on light as >>> electromagnetic brainwave patterns. >>> >>> Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And thoughts do >>> create very specific fields of biomagnetic energy in the mind and >>> this has an effect much like dropping a pebble into a pond. It is an >>> energy, but it is not felt physically rather by electromagnetic >>> fields instead of matter fields. >>> >>> The universe is connected by both physical bonds and electromagnetic >>> bonds. Electromagnetic energy is becoming the science of the soul >>> and this is common with such concepts of an AURA which really is a >>> biomagnetic field that surrounds the body created by the various >>> patterns of electrical impusles caused by thoughts. >>> >>> When the mind needs the body to preform a task, it sends a signal to >>> a muscle and this muscle reacts with controlled electrical nervous >>> responses and thus creates a movement acting upon a denser energy >>> stored in as fuel for the cells. Still it's different fields of >>> energy preforming very specific tasks. But it is all energy at >>> different frequencies. >>> >>> This echange creates the biomagnetic aura as energy surges in this >>> living machine. And it all starts with thought. And thought is what >>> we will examine in some depth and draw upon some areas of thought, >>> of applied thought by influencing electromagnetic energy. And this >>> gets really interesting. >>> >>> Back to the Vision and it's examples. >>> >>> The vision then began to illustrate a field of pure white light >>> energy as the sum total of all energy existing in the universe in a >>> perfect harmonious balanced state of existence. That all parts of >>> this energy were at the exact same frequency and order of balance as >>> a body, much like an infinite ocean. >>> >>> This field was labled the source, source meaning the source of all >>> energy and energy being consciousness. So a very intelligent and >>> self aware field of energy. >>> >>> When this field began to apply thought, parts of it's self began to >>> form to those thoughts and this was illustrated as a change of >>> frequency and the birth of a new level of energy. This new level of >>> energy was the same but different and since it's thoughts were on a >>> different field than the first infinite body, this field was more >>> focused and represented the first applied thought. >>> >>> And in an instant of infinite time, a reaction was formed. Call it >>> the big bang, or what ever concept of birth, and energy began to >>> lower in frequency and created personifications as this reaction >>> caused the entire field of energy to form the structure of the >>> universe by an order of applied self-seeking energy. >>> >>> This reaction created a number of realities, energy systems and >>> physical matter reality was one of many. Physical matter reality was >>> the moment when this energy dropped so low in frequency that it >>> crystallised and became unified at a series of dense levels. >>> >>> Since thought is energy and human thought is energy focused at a >>> very human level, we have to understand that there are many fields >>> of intelligent energy; all self aware as we are self-aware. We are >>> by no means the most intelligent force in the universe. And the >>> application of thought causes energy to react and form around that >>> thought giving it a dimension to exist in. And depending on the >>> frequency of that thought, it will manifest. And I mean it WILL >>> manifest, either as a mental formed image to a chain of events that >>> gives birth to it in reality. I will go into more depth as I will >>> lose so many at this point. So I will clarify this so we can >>> understand the principles of this. >>> >>> The vision continued to show that these lower particles as they >>> dropped in frequency became less aware of the source and more >>> submersed into darkness. I saw that the darker it became, the closer >>> it came to the physical matter universe until the universe was much >>> like the stars in the sky, pin points of energy balanced by a field >>> of cause and effect. >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11245 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:44 >>> >From : GLENDA STOCKS >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: light universe 3/3 >>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" >>> >>> >>> Why thought as a creative energy? >>> >>> It was thought that gave birth to the reaction which created the >>> universes. Thought was dynamic and since thought is energy, it >>> created a very specific field of energy. And since that feild was >>> energy, it also had thought, but a different thought so another >>> reaction was formed and we have a chain reaction much like what >>> happens in a nuclear bomb when a chain reaction occurs. >>> >>> And in all this reaction there were very simple universal laws that >>> formed around the relationship of energy and it's self. And we begin >>> to get into emotion, love, creation and other mechanisms of >>> communication that generate our reality and all realities that exist >>> at the different feilds of frequency. >>> >>> This now becomes a science of light, and the science of thought. >>> Reality is energy, and energy is thought. There is a relationship >>> that we have to identify with since this will be a very major >>> realisation for most that reality is more energy than it is physical >>> but since there are specific laws of cause and effect we find that >>> when energy hits another energy feild it creates a specific >>> reaction. But it has been and always will be energy and it's >>> relationships. >>> >>> We exist in a mental universe of crystallised thought energy. Our >>> senses are a form of communication devices for translating this >>> specific reality and it's order of cause and effect. When we touch >>> something, we are sent a message by that "something" that we touch >>> according to the relationship of cause and effect. That object tells >>> us by feeling that it is, say a ball. A group of focused energy in a >>> constructed thought forming a ball in a reality of cause and effect. >>> That ball is still energy and energy is thought crystallised at a >>> very specific frequency. >>> >>> This is a language. We think that our garbled human words are the >>> only thing that is communicating with us but we forget that all our >>> senses are in fact communicating with very specific frequencies of >>> energy. That the whole observed reality is speaking to our senses >>> screaming I am BALL! And we feel this ball, taste it, hear it >>> bounce, see it's collection of particles. But we do not realise that >>> we are from the same creative origin and lack the connection to >>> understand that this ball is a energy system that has an awareness >>> at a very specific feild. >>> >>> I would like to go into detail, but the best advice I can offer is >>> eat some rice crispies so that you can have all your senses >>> activated by this communication of energy and it's relationship with >>> your awareness. And instead of just wolfing it down, be aware that >>> your senses are communicating with very specific reactions of energy >>> and this dinner is simply communicating to you that this is what it >>> is, and you are sharing an exchange of energy with it. And enjoy >>> eating it, as all of the sensory input is a language of matter >>> reality. And this is what happens when you observe a very specific >>> crytallised thought energy. Apply this to all you experience >>> physically. And be aware that there is a relationship and a language >>> being observed at many differnet levels at once, to create your >>> sensory experience with this energy system. >>> >>> Can human thought manifest in reality? >>> >>> ABSOLUTELY!!!! 100%!!!! We just have a few handicaps to over-come. >>> First, we need imagination. We have to believe (and know) that we >>> can create something. And then we have to apply that thought. It >>> starts with an idea, say the wheel. The wheel was formed first by an >>> human idea. And then this human acted upon this energy of thought an >>> formed it by the means available to it. And by shaping physical >>> reality to a desired thought, a wheel was fashioned by a very human >>> hand. >>> >>> Then this wheel had a very specific purpose and it spoke to man, and >>> man called it wheel. When I say it spoke to him, it was observed by >>> senses as a circular object of specific order and design. >>> >>> All of our technology today comes from ideas that man has acted upon >>> when his desire became so strong that he had to form that thought by >>> means of physically hammering it out. They could not have formed if >>> thought was not first initiated. That it was thought seeking >>> manifestation and building energy, created the events which lead to >>> the first wheel being fashioned. >>> >>> If we think of something, and begin to add emotion to it, chances >>> are we will dream of it if we are active. That the thought formed in >>> an electromagnetic reality if you would like. If more energy is >>> added to this thought, a person might have an inspiration all of a >>> sudden to get off one's bottom and actually fulfill that dreamed of >>> idea. >>> >>> Thought forms reality, much how we form our technology. Reality was >>> a thought before it became crystallised. I will end this portion of >>> this discussion as I am rushing to get this out before I get lazy >>> and uninspired :) In the next segment we will begin to unlock how >>> our thoughts can manifest certain events in reality since there is a >>> reaction caused by this. And hence we will talk in some detail on >>> thought manifestation. >>> >>> Till then, >>> Ian Wilson >>> >>> Ian Wilson 102-197 Roy Ave >>> Penticton B.C.V2A 3M8 Canada >>> (604)-493-3455 >>> >>> This article is still being flushed out, so it is raw material and >>> will be revised as I include a lot more of what this area is >>> covering. I am just trying to get this out for a few who asked about >>> it, but more thought is required before it is fully explained as it >>> is. >>> >>> Ian Wilson >>> >>> * Origin: Penticton Community Online Media (1:353/115) FidoNet >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11246 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:47 >>> >From : GLENDA STOCKS >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: crystals >>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" >>> >>> Origin: XBN - 0001 - F:I_UFO >>> From: DEBORAH MAYA Public >>> To: GLENDA STOCKS >>> Date: 01/28/95 at 05:28 >>> Re: CRYSTAL SCIENCE >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> HI! >>> This is another page in The 7 Mysteries Of Life: (Guy Murchie) >>> Crystal Science: Piezo, The Crystal of Life (double terminated). The >>> sort of crystal that reconcites this paradox of life best of >>> all is the rather extraordinary type called piezo, with >>> something like a very simple nervous system that makes it >>> generate an electric current whenever it is distorted by >>> mechanical pressure. The verb " to press" in Greek is piezin so >>> it was only logical to name this kind of vital response the >>> piezoelectric effect. It occurs because distorting a crystal >>> means moving atoms in relation in one another and, since some >>> of them are ions carrying extra electrons, this kind of >>> distortion amounts to a flow of electrons which by difinition, >>> collectively add up to an electric current. Putting it another >>> way as the illustration shows (in book) when a piezoelectric >>> crystal unit is not distorted its centers of positive and >>> negative electric charge conside and there is no flow of >>> current. But the same unit is squeezed into a different shape, >>> the charge centers are pushed apart and the current flows as >>> long as the centers keep moving. Further more because the >>> phenomenon is relative, it works recipiocally-so that, when an >>> outside electric current is applied, the charge centers move >>> and the crystal contracts or, if connected to an altering >>> current, it alternately contracts and expands. In which case of >>> course it becomes an oscillator and regulate frequencies in all >>> sorts of electronic equipment. (especially radios and >>> communications equipment) Among the better types of crystals >>> for piezoelectricity are salt, because its full of ions, >>> Quartz, tourmaline, and barium titanate, the last of which has >>> become important in radio and TV, microphones, where early this >>> century it learned to sing, Transmitters, submarine sonar >>> systems, ultrasonic tools and cleaning devices. (Can you >>> imagine with natural piez?) Feromagetic crystal with oppositely >>> magnetized sublatties so indenpendltly responsive to temperature >>> that by warming or cooling it a mere degree of two (as when >>> holding it in hand, as I do during a Transmission) it polartity >>> can be reversed, making it usefull for storing information in >>> computer memory cells. Another bi way jump takes us to the size >>> of a lava field containing quartz, such as a large one on North >>> Idu peninsula in Japan where an earthquake in November 1930 was >>> accompanied by spectacular lightning in a clear sky, a phenoemon >>> already becoming well enough recognized to have disseminated >>> the theory that piezoelectric crystals subjected to disrupted >>> mechanical pressure over many square miles of territory CAN >>> GENERATE VOLTAGE SUFFICENT TO CAUSE A THUNDERSTORM. (and a lot >>> of WEATHER CONTROL type conditions) In all such widely >>> different cases, it seems approprate to cite the increasing >>> evidence that in magnetically ordered crystals, the spins of >>> the atoms periodically do something that could be called a >>> flip, reversing their direction and polarity of Earth, the Sun >>> and the Stars and probably the Galaxies. And this change >>> actually advances from atom to atom like a roll of falling >>> dominoes in a microprogression physicist call a spin (indeed) >>> wave that sweeps through the material like a swell on a ocean. >>> It is a vital factor in the melodic reality behind the wave of >>> nature of all matter-the still mysterious truth discovered in >>> France in 1922 by Louis de Broglie after the merest hint in >>> acient ancient times by py l or t pythagoras who had listened >>> and listen for and eventually hear, the MUSIC OF THE SPHERES. ****8 >>> [...] >>> --- FMail 0.92 >>> * Origin: Spirit BBS **704-297-5973**Fido#1:3666/701 (1:3666/701) >>> =============================================================================== >>> Message 11250 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 09:28 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Glenda: Relay to Stewart Harris that when Joel, Bert and I get the TMI >>> device into a self sustaining form that will generate some extra energy >>> beyond what it takes to run itself the device will be intoduced to the >>> world as "The Harris Effect Generator" (HEG) and not the Searle Effect >>> Generator although they are closely related. Stewart's device is really >>> a poor boys approach that accomplishes the same results. "Elegantly >>> Simple". Just want all to know and give credit to the source of the >>> knowledge that will make it all possible. Sure glad you are into the >>> "Sacred Geometry" for in it lies all the answers to many questions. I >>> am working out the proper geometry of the circular self sustaining >>> device as we write and exchange ideas. To answer your question regards >>> the Vesica Pieces pattern all you have to do is clasp both of your >>> cupped hands together and visualize the thrust vector that would run >>> diagonally through the neutral center of the nested cup formed by your >>> hands. This is the energy vector formed by the intersection of two >>> energies coming together in exactly the same strengths and frequencies >>> to form the standing wave. That is the way Joel and I see it but we >>> don't have all the answers and this explanation will surfice in our >>> minds till someone comes up with concrete proof otherwise. You know >>> all about opinions, everyone has one and I'm sure all will have a >>> different answer as to how the TMI really works. I had fun yesterday >>> going around and cleaning out 4 Radio Shack Store of their loose magnet >>> stock. The Managers would ask me what I needed so many of these >>> magnets for. I would say "Just ring up my purchase then I will tell >>> you". After the sale was complete I would draw out the TMI and explain >>> to which the Manager would say, "darn it, you just bought all my >>> magnets so I will have to order more before I can build my own TMI. >>> The Tandy Wharehouse Computer is going nuts with this demand curve and >>> the reorder quantities are going out the roof. I can see a night shift >>> working at the Tandy Magnet Plant at Ft. Worth. Ha! Ha! Will keep you >>> all informed as to progress on the "HEG". Norm >>> >>> >>> >>> Message 11255 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 12:35 >>> >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Hi Norm! The hamster cage model was one Stewart and I both discussed >>> but I had designed one that is basically the current linear model on >>> edge.....there are several people who have written, called or emailed >>> they are doing essentially the same thing....to have one single closed >>> loop that propels the magnet continually is the secret and one that has >>> been missed for so many years....I am told there was a device of this >>> nature over 40 years ago that ran continuously....and after a couple of >>> years of so, everything became magnetic and the device stopped....the >>> inventor then simply replaced the magnets and it resumed... >>> ... >>> One other thing, do you remember the Hummel flying disk??? The >>> cylindrical magnetic suspension chamber uses the same continuous >>> forward thrust that had me going so bad on the way back and resulted in >>> that feeble attempt with the two black disks with all the little >>> magnets glued onto it..... >>> ... >>> It would have worked had they been attached as Stewart Harris had done to >>> take advantage of the 'magnetic instability'....since 1978, he has had >>> this information and been trying to get it out in one form or another, >>> now it's hit and will lead to phenomenal things....IT INDEED WORKS... >>> ... >>> Just got a call from Dan, after we talked last night, he rigged up the >>> magnets and was just laughing his head off at how it worked just as >>> described and dammit, after all these years, the principle (one of them) >>> is SO SIMPLE a child could do it.....anyway, he is placing an order >>> with AZ for hundreds of magnets to develop a circular track... >>> ... >>> It will be fun to watch this next year as the newsletters, conferences >>> and indeed THE MEDIA become aware and focussed on this principle...I >>> have sent out packages to all the contacts, TESLA, ESJ, BORDERLAND, >>> NEN, SEA, KING, BEARDEN, ETC....so they will be aware of what is going >>> on with the full details....it will simply expand now way beyond >>> this.....I just want Stewart to get his full due as the DISCOVERER of >>> the effect, not that others have not done it, but that Stewart first >>> RELEASED it for others to understand.....PHANTASTIC!!!......>>> Jerry >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11272 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 08:08 >>> >From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- >>> To : JOEL MCCLAIN >>> Subject: (R) TMI Plans >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> JM> >>> JM> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are >>> JM> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start. >>> JM> >>> [snip] >>> JM> >>> JM> Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a >>> result >>> JM> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them >>> JM> anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides >>> of >>> JM> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you >>> JM> will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set >>> them >>> JM> aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the >>> side >>> JM> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps". >>> | >>> | This reminded me of some thing, so I want and pulled >>> | my "Magnet File" (Need to look in my files more often >>> | things in there I didn't remember having, see near end): >>> | >>> | From Science & Mechanics Magazine, Spring 1980, >>> | "Amazing Magnet-Powred Motor" by Jorma Hyypia. >>> | >>> | On page 46: "In the assembly at right the vehicle is >>> | propelled, in either direction, by the force of the large >>> | magnets arranged below tracks." >>> | >>> | On page 47: is a Gauss plot: "... plots of >>> | experimental data showing the dramatically different >>> | magnetic effects at the north and south poles of armature >>> | magnet. These are "STEEPED" [Emphasis mine] readings made >>> | over the stator magnets and spaces between them. If the >>> | magnetic flux patterns are plotted on a continuous basis as >>> | the armature moves along the stator track, the result is a >>> | "sinousoidal" graph. .... showing complex magnetic forces >>> | interacting to create off-balance effects that move the >>> | armature from right to left..." This plot looks like your >>> | corrugated cardboard. >>> | >>> | [Next plan a trip trip to Toys'R'Us ....] >>> | >>> | "A transparent plastic sheet atop this magnet >>> | assembly supports a length of plastic model rail-road track. >>> | The vehicle, basically a model railroad flatcar, supports a >>> | foil-wrapped pair of curved magnets, plus some sort of >>> | weight, in some cases merely a rock. The weight is needed >>> | to keep the vehicle down on the track, against the powerful >>> | magnetic forces that would otherwise push it askew.... >>> | >>> | "...I was prepared to develop eye strain in an >>> | effort to detect some sort of motion in the vehicle. ... The >>> | moment the inventor let go of the vehicle he carefully >>> | placed at one end of the track, it accelerated and literally >>> | **ZIPPED** from one end to the other onto the floor! >>> | **Wow**!" >>> | >>> | "Knowing that I would be asked if the track might >>> | have had a slant, I reversed the vehicle and started it from >>> | the opposite end of the track. It worked just as effectively >>> | in the reverse direction. In fact, the vehicle can even >>> | navigate a respectable up-grade." >>> | >>> | Also see patent "4,151,431 4/24/1979 Permanent >>> | Magnet Motor" by Howard R. Johnson. Note that the graph "biassing >>> | magnetic field" on the first page is from some other patent, >>> | but I don't know which one. Also this patent is for a >>> | rotatory thing not the linear thing described above. It was >>> | the linear model demonstrated, but the a rotary thing that >>> | was patented. Also there has been some questions over the >>> | years if some of the article was true or not. >>> | >>> | Don't over look neat things you can do with magnetic >>> | 'craft' tape. You can get 20 foot rolls at any 'craft >>> | store', didn't you every wonder how all of those things got >>> | stuck to the front of the refiduator???? >>> | >>> | There is also the work of Bill Muller (2/29/1984). >>> | >>> | Picture a "Lazy Susan" on the moving part are >>> | intermixed magnets and iron blocks spaced every 22.5 degrees >>> | (center to center). On the outside (non moving part) are >>> | larger magnets/blocks spaced every 24 degrees (center to >>> | center). I know this is vague, but I can't read most of the >>> | details from this crummy copy. It was reported to work, but >>> | be slow and jerky, with little torque. >>> | >>> | >>> | As for the part about my bad memory, I have a copy >>> | of "Perpetual Motion Journal", March 1969, Volume I, Number >>> | 4. Any one know if these people are still around? One >>> | thing I can say is that the quality of the coping machines >>> | was a lot better back then than now, I can count the number >>> | of turns on the coils... >>> | >>> | Any way it covers these patens: >>> | >>> | #1,835,721 for a permanent magnet motor by Arthur >>> | Powell. >>> | >>> | #1,963,213 for a magnetic motor was issued to J.W. >>> | Poysa, 6/19/1934. >>> | >>> | #1,859,643, 5/24/1932, by Mr. Harry L. Worthington. >>> | >>> | #1,859,764, May 24, 1932 by Geroge H. Bougon. This >>> | one closely resembles what you have described. >>> | >>> | Also in the March 1879 (yes 18) issue of Harper's >>> | Magazine, reprinted in "The Theosophist" for November 1879, >>> | is reported to be a drawings of a working motor, any one got >>> | these laying around? >>> | >>> | And from NASA we have "A Linear Magnetic Motor and >>> | Generator: A device that can be used as a bidirectional >>> | motor or AC generator", GSC-12518. [Nothing self sustaining >>> | with this one tho. I've noticed some thing about this NASA >>> | stuff, any one of these things alone is not particularly >>> | exciting. But I've amassed a large collection of them, the >>> | sum of the whole is more than its components, there is a >>> | clear pattern of 'Free Energy' stuff emerging under >>> | the guise of "Space Operation".] >>> | >>> | "There is nothing new under the sun. See this is new." >>> | >>> =============================================================================== >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11268 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 07:17 >>> >From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : ALL >>> Subject: Inter-Atomic Resonance >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> For a long time I have been struggling with an idea or theory which I >>> will share with everyone now and will write up for Jerry as a file if >>> he wants to post it. It goes like this: In 1892 Nikola Tesla created >>> electrostatic discharges from an induction coil that possesed every >>> characteristic of what we commonly know as a chemical decomposition >>> flame and posed the question to the scientific world; "Is a chemical >>> flame simply a release of atomic electrostatic rewsonances during >>> transition between states of matter?" My Cold Fusion Patent search was >>> based on the theory that since electrostatic forces are the "glue" or >>> binding force which holds all mater together then if we use resonant >>> standing waves (scalar effect) then we could disassemble the atomic >>> structure which is what Tesla had proposed during his Lecture before >>> the Electrical Engineering Conference in London when de discribed his >>> carbon button lamp experiments. My theory explains the dissosation >>> process in the electrolytic cell when we separate hydrogen and oxygen >>> from water. It is the inter-atomic resonances that cause the >>> disassociation of the hydrogen from the oxygen in the simple >>> electroylisis of water. The normally strong molecular bond of the H2O >>> molecule is broken by the difference in resonant frequencies of >>> hydrogen and oxygen which are excited by the flow of electric current. >>> When hydrogen is oxidized by oxygen (combustion) the results, water and >>> a release of energy which we perceive as heat and light is actually a >>> broad band of electrostatic resonances. This conforms with Tesla's >>> observations. Since the electromagnetic spectrum goes from "0"HZ or DC >>> all the way up to Cosmic Rays and who knows how much higher (infinity) >>> with no differentation or categories of energy then why can't all >>> frequencies be electrostatic resonances. When we feel heat we say that >>> is "heat" but it is actually and electrostatic resonance that we >>> perceive as heat and if the frequency is high enough it becomes visible >>> red or even higher freq it becomes white light if the resonances are >>> broad band to encompass enough frequenciesa >>> More later on this subject for Jerry does not want files in the message >>> base. Think about this one. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> To all, as you can see that all of this TMIDEVIC activity occured during the whole MRA slug fest, both Joel and I were pretty busy juggling the balls in the circus. Lol >>> >>> On 2/17/2019 2:28 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Norm, >>>> >>>> Can you tell us more about this device Joel commented "this dog >>>> will warp" >>>> >>>> Sounds like some kind of Searle device possibly without the >>>> individual rollers. Perhaps similar to my concept of polarization >>>> bias via spin locking along with magnetic lenzing. >>>> >>>> Interesting how ferromagnetic materials are so easy to achieve >>>> molecular alignment. >>>> >>>> When studying the MRA did you determine to what alignment >>>> relationship the piezo had with the E field, if it was >>>> perpendicular again as the E to B and in what direction of rotation? >>>> Assuming the insect flight may also have something to do with piezo >>>> electric mode... >>>> >>>> Wonder which way one would have to align to allow for transparency >>>> to visible light... >>>> >>>> On 2/16/2019 5:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The vortex phenomenon is everywhere. >>>>> >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13 >>>>> From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>>>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>>>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>>>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>>>> >>>>> Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net >>>>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I >>>>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch >>>>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and >>>>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of >>>>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted >>>>> to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his >>>>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting >>>>> results of >>>>> our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was >>>>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me >>>>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little >>>>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The >>>>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer >>>>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on >>>>> the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly >>>>> conducted we >>>>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to >>>>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just >>>>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the >>>>> conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel >>>>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry" >>>>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI >>>>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making >>>>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the >>>>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk. >>>>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during >>>>> which we >>>>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked >>>>> and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran >>>>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the >>>>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating >>>>> magnetic >>>>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner >>>>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust >>>>> to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart >>>>> mentioned >>>>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well >>>>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the >>>>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the >>>>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the >>>>> extent >>>>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken >>>>> segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a >>>>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic >>>>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces >>>>> vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put >>>>> it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will >>>>> have >>>>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non >>>>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing >>>>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of >>>>> excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is >>>>> that >>>>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that >>>>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply >>>>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away >>>>> leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks >>>>> for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun >>>>> with this one. Norm >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> On 2/16/2019 7:32 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Message 11109 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:46 >>>>> > From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>>>> > To : BERT POOL >>>>> > Subject: MIT report >>>>> > Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>>>> > >>>>> > Bert: Great report you posted yesterday. I need to go back to the >>>>> > Hydrosonic Pump testing that Joel and I did and write up our >>>>> findings >>>>> > so those guys will have a better understanding as to what is >>>>> going on >>>>> > in the Griggs and Perkins type pumps. They are off track by >>>>> believing >>>>> > that the pitting effect on the rotor is caused by heat. joel and >>>>> I have >>>>> > already determined that the whole anomolous heating effect is an >>>>> > electrical phenomenon which we proved by building the pump unit >>>>> with a >>>>> > transparent outer tube so we could study the cadeuses helix standing >>>>> > wave patterns which were composed of millions of very tiny >>>>> bubbles in >>>>> > the shape of little tornadoes in the form of an "S" shape. The >>>>> > electrical effect is obvious by the presence of a very strong >>>>> magnetic >>>>> > field around the rotor in the form of a magnetic monopole. I'm am >>>>> > surprised that Gene Mallove did not tell Griggs about our >>>>> research fro >>>>> > I sent him a complete package on our testing of the Perkins Pump >>>>> unit >>>>> > along with the MRA info. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Norm >>>>> > >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 2/16/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >>>>> >> Moray King, please note. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Message 11075 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:40 >>>>> >> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- >>>>> >> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>>>> >> Subject: Griggs, C.F., motors, etc., cont. >>>>> >> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Norm, here's the good stuff! >>>>> >> Message #800 - Fidonet - Science >>>>> >> Date: 01-23-95 23:55:14 >>>>> >> From: Michael Fullerton >>>>> >> To: All >>>>> >> Subject: Cold Fusion Day at MIT >>>>> >> Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion >>>>> >> From: [email protected] (Eugene Mallove) >>>>> >> Subject: Brief Report on MIT IAP Cold Fusion Day >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:50:03 GMT >>>>> >> Lines: 139 >>>>> >> [ >>>>> >> *Brief* Memo on IAP Cold Fusion Day at MIT by Eugene F. Mallove, >>>>> >> Sc.D., meeting organizer >>>>> >> [ >>>>> >> The Cold Fusion Day IAP meeting at MIT on Saturday, January 21, >>>>> which >>>>> >> I organized, was in my view, a spectacular success. About 150 >>>>> >> attendees in rapt attention for about 10 hours in the main Physics >>>>> >> Lecture Hall (Room 6-120). Several high points came at the end >>>>> of the >>>>> >> day: >>>>> >> (A) Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc. (Rome, Georgia) gave a >>>>> >> magnificent presentation with new data on *massive melting* >>>>> that has >>>>> >> occurred on the periphery of his Hydrosonic Pump aluminum rotors on >>>>> >> several occasions. He also described re-welding of melted >>>>> material to >>>>> >> the rotor surface -- an even higher-temperature effect, he said. He >>>>> >> had one such rotor unit there and you could see and feel it. >>>>> >> Fantastically high temerpatures would be required to do that >>>>> and this >>>>> >> is NOT ordinary cavitation. Among other observations, if it were >>>>> >> simple cavitation, why would that not occur as a regular feature of >>>>> >> Hydrosonic Pump operation? -- it does not. Cavitation experts at >>>>> >> Georgia Inst. of Technology have now become involved. They say >>>>> it is >>>>> >> NOT cavitaiton. Griggs presented some stunning photomicrographs. >>>>> >> Meanwhile, the over-unity effect continues to be seen, even as >>>>> Griggs >>>>> >> continues to sell in recent months several hundred thousand dollars >>>>> >> worth of Hydrosonic Pumps for standard applications up to 250 HP. >>>>> >> (B) Bert Werjefelt from PolyTech(USA) in Hawaii spoke about his >>>>> work >>>>> >> on magnetic motors and the theory behind them. He reported that >>>>> >> experiments have seen output powers of 450 watts electric, with >>>>> only >>>>> >> 150 watts electric going in. Attempts at self-sustaining have been >>>>> >> successfull for periods of minutes. The company now thinks it knows >>>>> >> how to make a self-sustainer continue indefinitely and is >>>>> building one >>>>> >> right now, expected to be ready in the next month or two. He showed >>>>> >> gorgeous CAD diagrams of the 100-200 watt self-sustainer now under >>>>> >> construction in Hawaii. He explained how it worked (the precise >>>>> >> balancing of repulsion and attraction systems to substantially >>>>> reduce >>>>> >> torque). It was obvious that many if not most in the audience >>>>> accepted >>>>> >> his apparently very solid experimental conclusions -- even *some* I >>>>> >> would have thought would have left in disgust. Werjefelt put >>>>> forth his >>>>> >> theoretical ideas, which are based, in part, on suggestions made by >>>>> >> several (now) Nobel laureate physicists in the 1950s regarding >>>>> nuclear >>>>> >> magnetic spin systems (Pound, Purcell, and Ramsey). Others in the >>>>> >> audience were extremely excited by this report, and put forth their >>>>> >> theoretical ideas. Werjefelt is a solid mechanical engineer, whose >>>>> >> company manufactures pioneering FAA-certified safetly >>>>> equipment. He is >>>>> >> deeply involved in aviation safety issues and would have much >>>>> >> credibility to lose if he were not on absolutely solid ground with >>>>> >> this magnetic energy technology. He has been working quietly in >>>>> this >>>>> >> field for about ten years. On the advice of his patent >>>>> attorneys, he >>>>> >> published his general ideas in an article titled, "Magnetic >>>>> Battery," >>>>> >> in that countner-scientific culture journal, "Extraordinary >>>>> Science" >>>>> >> (Telsa Society), May/June/July 1993, which is availbale in >>>>> places like >>>>> >> Barnes& Nobel book stores. Don't let your prejudices about the >>>>> Tesla >>>>> >> Society fool you, this is a very carefully crafted scientific >>>>> article >>>>> >> with some excellent possible avenues to explain concrete >>>>> experimental >>>>> >> results. >>>>> >> The 8-minute video tape of the Japanese developments in this >>>>> area of >>>>> >> "Dream Energy" (Magnetic Energy) was shown. This had aired on >>>>> FUJI TV >>>>> >> in Japan on October 20, 1993. There are four major coporations >>>>> >> involved under MITI aegis: Sumitomo, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and >>>>> >> Matsushita. Werjefelt's company appears to have a very strong >>>>> patent >>>>> >> position in his area, however. The chief engineer of the Aerospace >>>>> >> Division of Sumitomo has visited Werjefelt and told him that this >>>>> >> discovery is "the greatest discovery of the 20th century." >>>>> >> Gene Mallove, who has been working with others who are getting >>>>> >> similar, related results with smaller units, will co-author a >>>>> paper >>>>> >> with Bert Werjefelt that will be presented at the Fifth >>>>> International >>>>> >> Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF5) in Monte Carlo, Monaco (April >>>>> 9-13, >>>>> >> 1995). This paper will present both experimental evidence and a >>>>> >> suggested theoretical framework. It is expected that several >>>>> working >>>>> >> self-sustaining units will be brought to ICCF5. There is a possible >>>>> >> (likely!) connection with cold fusion thermal effects that have >>>>> been >>>>> >> seen. >>>>> >> The MIT IAP proceedings of 1/21/95 were professionally >>>>> videotaped. A >>>>> >> sligthly edited full-version of the day-long program ( 8-10 hours) >>>>> >> will be distributed by Cold Fusion Technology. Also, a shorter >>>>> version >>>>> >> summary (less than two hours) will be be prepared by Mallove, >>>>> working >>>>> >> with a video production corporation in Manchester, NH. Due to >>>>> schedule >>>>> >> overload, it may be another 4 weeks before the tapes are >>>>> available.. >>>>> >> Every effort will be made to accelerate the process. A transcribed >>>>> >> version of some of the talks is also being planned by Cold Fusion >>>>> >> Technology. >>>>> >> This is only the "tip of the iceberg" of the incredible events >>>>> at MIT >>>>> >> Cold Fusion Day. In retrospect, this was an extremely historic >>>>> >> meeting. It was the first time that present and imminent >>>>> >> commercial-level power production from cold fusion/free energy was >>>>> >> discussed in a completely scientific manner at a major >>>>> university. The >>>>> >> message was apparently very well received. Mallove received >>>>> numerous >>>>> >> compliments on the decorum and solidity of the sessions. >>>>> >> The former editors of "Cold Fusion" Magazine have joined forces and >>>>> >> put out an interim "Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology" (CFNET) >>>>> Update, >>>>> >> a 36 page compendium -- mostly on cold fusion. This was distributed >>>>> >> free of charge to attendees at the MIT IAP meeting. Others wanting >>>>> >> this document should send a nominal $5.00 to Cold Fusion >>>>> Technology to >>>>> >> obtain a copy for themselves: >>>>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816 USA >>>>> >> Fax: 603-224-5975, Phone: 603-228-4516 >>>>> >> This CFNET Update is a precursor to the continuation of a >>>>> **reliable** >>>>> >> Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology magazine (title yet to be >>>>> >> finalized). >>>>> >> ****A recent posting by Victor Lapuszynski of "Cold Fusion" at WGI >>>>> >> contained an egregious error: Piantelli has NOT seen "50 *MeV* >>>>> >> gammas"! He has observed 50 KeV gammas, and will be publishing >>>>> a paper >>>>> >> soon. And so there is absolutely NO CONFUSION here: There is no >>>>> longer >>>>> >> any connection whatsoever between Wayne Green's "Cold Fusion" >>>>> >> newsletter and Cold Fusion Technology in Concord, New Hampshire. An >>>>> >> indication of the "quality" of the present editorial direction at >>>>> >> "Cold Fusion" at WGI: Mr. Lapuszynski left the sessions after >>>>> repeated >>>>> >> announcements that two extremely important presentations on >>>>> >> experiments were to be made.]**** >>>>> >> National Public Radio aired a one-hour cold fusion program >>>>> (1/20/95) >>>>> >> the day before the MIT IAP program, as part of the Ira Flatow >>>>> "Science >>>>> >> Friday" show. Featued for the "pro" side were Dr. Edmund Storms, >>>>> >> formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Dr. Eugene >>>>> Mallove of >>>>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, who gave a brief overview of what the next >>>>> >> day's MIT Cold Fusion program would be about. Also on air were two >>>>> >> members of the "Flat Earth Society" -- Gary Taubes, author of "Bad >>>>> >> Science: The Short Life and Weird Times of Cold Fusion" and >>>>> Professor >>>>> >> David Goodstein of Caltech, neither of whom obviously knew what >>>>> they >>>>> >> were talking about in the matter of cold fusion. Neither have been >>>>> >> seen at any cold fusion conferences in recent years, but that >>>>> did not >>>>> >> stop them from calling cold fusion research "lousy science." Both >>>>> >> managed to record themselves for posterity as the pontificating, >>>>> >> ignorant naysayers that they are -- at this, the 11th hour and 59th >>>>> >> minute of the Fossil Fuel Era, at the dawn of the New Energy Age. A >>>>> >> copy of this tape can be obtained from National Public Radio in >>>>> >> Washington. >>>>> >> Sincerely, Eugene F. Mallove, Sc.D., Cold Fusion Technology, >>>>> >> P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, Fax: 603-224-5975, >>>>> >> Phone: 603-228-4516 >>>>> >> >> Good stuff, no? Bert >>>>> >> >>>>> =============================================================================== >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>
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