Re: Knowledge of the Ancients, Sacred Geometry

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Please note that I changed the TOPIC for discussion.

If you have not explored the subject of Sacred Geometry, you have missed 
out on a lot of Natural Phenomenon Explanations. 
https://www.themystica.com/sacred-geometry/   Countless books on the 
subject so no excuses.

On 2/18/2019 8:53 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> On 2/18/2019 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> https://youtu.be/zoMk0estzXc    The TIMDIVIC as discussed on the old KeelyNet BBS  was a magnet runner track device that used the Orthagonal Magnet flux interaction that mimiced the Sacred Geometry Theory of the Vesica Pieces as shown in the video.   Yes, the device was a rip off of the Searle magnet roller System.  The dialog of the development of this system is hundreds of pages of dialog from the 1995 BBS of which I captured.
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>> See:      ===============================================================================
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>> Message 10870                                  DATE/TIME: 01/24/95 00:22
>> >From   : NORMAN COMPARINI
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hello, all:
>> Regarding the system described in this file, my own crude experiments
>> show that the system works to the degree that it will accelerate the
>> runner from zero velocity ( and no input force ) over several ramps (
>> POSITIVE change in potential energy, PE ) via magnetic rails.
>> The key to this system's motion seems to be the use of attract forces
>> of the magnet to "pull" where needed, but then the earth's gravity to
>> break free from the magnet to "reset " the system subset. It must
>> break free or it will oscillate between the magnetic poles and reach
>> equillibrium. The sytem in this file uses a ramp to point the gravity
>> vector in the proper direction.
>> ..
>> Momentuum also plays a role in getting the "use " of the
>> gravitational force....hard to explain without sckketches.....
>> ..
>> I would like to know if anyone else has toyed with this design, as it
>> does not seem overly complex, and I feel that I am most likely
>> overlooking a subtlty ety that .......It
>> is interesting how the runner, being orthogonal to the two rails, is
>> able to sustain linear motion, and the goeometry cancels the torques
>> generated by two bar magnets out of parallel.....
>> ..
>> Help anyone?
>> ..
>> norm ( no, the other one )
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 10916                                  DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:13
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: (R) Timedevice
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Norm!  Well, I built one tonite and it does exactly as described...a
>> cleaner construction with a guided pathway will make it run more better
>> and I think the alternately opposed tracks would work as
>> described...will clean it up some and try the alternate track thingy
>> for the next meeting....interesting principle, though a bit ragged in
>> the initial form...>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 10917                                  DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:17
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN COMPARINI
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC Works
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Norm!  Well, I did what you did and whupped one of those TMIDEVIC
>> things together tonight...it works just as described, most interesting
>> and I see why he needs the decline right after the top of the magnets
>> are reached...No doubt with a bit more refined construction such as a
>> smoother roller setup and a guided pathway, this dog'll hunt!
>> However, from what I can see of how the thing operates I think the
>> hamster cage apparatus won't work as first thought....but it leads to
>> some interesting speculations....I will let you know anything else that
>> comes of it designwise....>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 10918                                  DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:20
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: Refer 10917
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Glenda!  Just wanted to let you know that Norman C. and I both have
>> duplicated the TMIDEVIC that you shared with KeelyNet and it does as
>> described....very simple, yet intriquing...will let you know what comes
>> out of it as to alternative designs and that includes Stewart
>> Harris...thanks for passing it along....>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 10930                                  DATE/TIME: 01/26/95 05:38
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>> To     : NORMAN COMPARINI
>> Subject: (R) Magnet drive
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Norm!  As to getting power out of it, I have not even considered
>> that aspect because the thing has not proven unity, itself...if that
>> circular or U track allows it to run around powered exclusively from
>> the magnetic repulsion, then maybe a different geometry might be worth
>> trying....I agree with you....something I noticed on mine...the more
>> magnets I added to the sideways stack, the less overall force it
>> had....20 magnets per side seems to give about the greatest thrust
>> using a 10 magnet roller...that is an odd phenomenon that I don't
>> understand at this point...any ideas on why the force would seem to
>> weaken??  All I can think of is the longer magnet causes the field
>> lines to be more separated and thus weaker...>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 10996                                  DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 09:57
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: TMI Plans
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are
>> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start.
>>   
>> The magnets are Radio Shack part number 64-1885, normally 39 cents
>> each, but on sale now for 15 cents each.  It costs $8.89, incl. the
>> sales tax, to buy the required 50 magnets.  You will also need tape,
>> 48 pennies, and a piece of corrugated cardboard.  It takes about
>> 30 minutes to put it together.  You can either use a magnetic compass
>> or "trial and error" to get the magnets into position.
>>   
>> Cut a piece of cardboard 8 1/2 inches by 6 1/4 inches.  Fold it so
>> that each "up ramp" is three inches long, and each "down ramp" is
>> 1 1/4 inches long.  Under the peak of each up ramp you will need
>> support, so tape together two stacks of pennies, six in each stack,
>> and put a stack under the middle top of each up ramp.
>>   
>> Put together ten magnets.  They hold together pretty well as a result
>> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them
>> anyway.  This is the "runner".  The magnet stacks along the sides of
>> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you
>> will want to tape around each stack.  Make these stacks, and set them
>> aside.  Cut and prefold the cardboard.  Next, you will tape the side
>> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps".
>>   
>> If you are using a compass, the magnetic alignment will be:
>>   
>> second down ramp
>>   
>> N             S  second
>>                     up
>> S             N  ramp
>>           
>> first down ramp
>>   
>> N             S  first
>>                     up
>> S             N  ramp
>>   
>>       S N         runner
>>   
>> The height of each ramp from the table top will be 9/16 inch, which is
>> the height of the six penny stack plus the thickness of the cardboard.
>> If you experiment with this and get better results with your own
>> methods, please share the information.
>> As Mr. Rogers might say, "Can you say MONOPOLE?"
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11003                                  DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN                      -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Jerry:  I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor perform
>> and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make it into a
>> continous running motor.  "HOT".  Everyone will jump right on this one
>> for it has so many- many applications.  When kids drag this little
>> experiment to school and show it to their science teachers they will
>> simply go "NUTS".  Ha! Ha!  Next thing will be a run on Radio Shack
>> magnets, and their computer was go crazy trying to figure out where
>> this demand came from for magnets that last week they could not give
>> away.  Well to put it this way they put them on sale for they were
>> moving too slow.Sounds sort of like we were all buying parts for the
>> "Lee Trippett" circuit.  tHEY PROBABLY NEVER FIGURED OUT THAT DEMAND
>> CURVE ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM EITHER.  Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11019                                  DATE/TIME: 01/29/95 12:41
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: TMI..and thanks!
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Glenda,
>>   
>> Actually, Stewart Harris and you did the favor for US by sharing
>> his ideas here...I'd like to know more about stewart's Theory of
>> Magnetic Instability.  It's intriguing because, although the poles
>> of the magnets are aligned for a net repulsion, Stewart sees some
>> other definition of the forces at play.  His definition works, as
>> opposed to that of his detractors, who apparently in their frus-
>> tration and desperation, have chosen to question him, instead of
>> actually building and analyzing the working device.
>>   
>> Magnets are holographic and like holograms, maintain their image
>> memory in tiny molecule-sized fractal pieces.  The forces which
>> create magnets force the substrate to simultaneously expand and
>> contract, then "freeze" the energy/matter into an imbalance.  Mag-
>> nets are, I believe, in a constant state of energy collapse, which
>> is why they "attract" materials which have molecular structures which
>> "resemble" their own.  As with any hologram, we see the effect, not
>> the 3-space reality.
>>   
>> Stewart has been able to see and comprehend the reality, where science
>> has, by definition, limited itself to the (measurable) effect...and
>> it misses the boat.  The "instability" part of Stewart's theory would,
>> I think, bridge the gap for us, if he will be kind enough to share it.
>> Stewart is a seeker (and sharer) of truth...he has friends here.
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11044                                  DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 12:36
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: All aboard!!
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> The TMIDEVIC can be laid out as a "train track", and the "runner"
>> can be placed anyplace within that track, and it will move forward.
>> As it moves, it gains speed.  I suspect that with a long enough track
>> and low enough surface tension, it might attain high velocity.
>>   
>> The implications of this are enormous for rail transportation, far
>> superior to the "mag-lev" designs currently being built in Japan and
>> Germany.  While there may still be a need for generators on TMI type
>> trains, for air conditioning, etc., the actual drive power is zero.
>> Small electromagnets could be used on the train for acceleration and
>> braking.
>>   
>> For the "return trip", just reverse the magnets on the train.  So much
>> more can be done...this is just one example.  Converting the magnetic
>> fields into circular rotation as Stewart Harris did can begin to
>> eliminate our reliance on fossil fuels.  Mass transportation can be
>> much cheaper than ever thought possible.
>>   
>> The same principles will allow the electrical power that is needed to
>> be generated without any type of fuels.  Regardless of what is said
>> today, I suspect that Mr. Harris will be remembered by history.
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11048                                  DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 14:08
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: TMI Geometry
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>   
>> Look at the TMIDEVIC again...the round magnets have torus shaped
>> fields.  The 90 degree relationship between the runner and the rails
>> creates intersections at vesica pisces coordinates, which creates
>> a vortical energy flow on both ends of the runner, and the energy
>> increases as the number of intersections increases with the speed
>> of the runner.  This dog can warp.
>>   
>> Joel
>>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11077                                  DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:43
>> >From   : BERT POOL                          -- PRIVATE --    -- RECEIVED --  
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED)
>> Subject: Rollin', rollin', rollin' down de river
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JOEL MCCLAIN
>>        and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 01/31/95 at 09:50
>>                               --------------------
>> Joel,
>> I'm not going to be able to build one of the roller magnet thingies for
>> quite some time yet.  I've got those little round magnets stuck all
>> over the inside of the cab of my truck, and my main observation is that
>> they suck (or maybe don't suck enough?).  They are pitifully weak!
>> I've not seen ads for neodymium magnets in this shape, but I bet they
>> are made.  What would this thing do with neo mags, say about 50 times
>> more powerful than what you are currently using?  Would it lock up, or
>> would it go ballistic?  If you are getting positive results with these
>> wimpy magnets, it might be very worth while to test with doughnut neos.
>>   I volunteer $25.00 toward purchase of these neos, if a source can be
>> found.   >> Bert
>> ===============================================================================
>> essage 11083                                  DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 11:18
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : BERT POOL
>> Subject: TMI Geometry
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Bert,
>>   
>> I'd suggest using the cheap magnets at first, until you decide how
>> you want to construct your project.  Magnetism is secondary to
>> geometry, and it is a matter of scale, not of effect.  The effect
>> is the same.  Even the weak magnets will accelerate uphill and
>> break the attraction at the top.  PHI is the key, and it is constant
>> regardless of the (relative) strength of the magnets.
>>   
>> It is in the overlap of the fields where vesica pisces forms, and this
>> is the PHI coordinate, where the same etheric energy which causes
>> particle spin will rotate the magnets.  TMI applies sacred geometry
>> in a way which utilizes etheric energy and that is why it violates
>> the "known" laws of physics.  TMI also shows us how to end our need
>> for fossil and nuclear fuels.
>>   
>> Joel
>> ======================================================================
>> Message 11084                                  DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 12:08
>> >From   : BERT POOL                          -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> Subject: Rollin'
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Joel,
>> Does the device accelerate the entire length of the track?
>> If so, is the acceleration linear or exponential?
>> I have a circuit that should allow us to measure the velocity at any
>> desired point.  If the acceleration is exponential, then a relatively
>> short track should allow acceleration of this device to absolutely
>> incredible speeds.  If acceleration is linear, then a relatively short
>> track should allow acceleration to "only" incredible speeds.  I know
>> the device as shown in the plans uses ramps.  Will the mobile part
>> accelerate on a track with no ramps?  If so, the acceleration should be
>> higher on a flat track v.s. a ramped track.  Comments?
>> Bert
>> ===============================================================================
>>   > Message 11003
>>   > DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49
>>   > From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>>   > To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>>   > Subject: TMIDEVIC
>>   > Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>   
>>   > Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor
>>   > perform and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make
>>   > it into a continuous running motor. "HOT".
>>   
>> [...]
>>   
>> ******************************** I offer:
>>   
>> Actually, I had heard that Radio Shack was going to discontinue this
>> line of magnets. But they are available from most magnet
>> manufacturers, and in greater variations of strengths. I have had
>> models which constantly lift a runner which weighs about a pound.
>>   
>> As for the kids and schools and science teachers, this TMI device
>> has already won a Clark County Science Fair for a 14-year-old boy,
>> and he almost won the State prize but got a bit uppity with the
>> judges and ended up second. Plus, he got uppity because the judges
>> neither understood what it was nor believed it was not a sham.
>>   
>> [...]
>>   
>> Thanks again for your assistance. It seems my PMM devices will
>> become realities in the very near future. I don't know what the
>> science world will do. They forecast doom if I am right, yet I am
>> certain they will exert their outer limits of flexibility and come
>> to some consensus acceptable to all. I hope so. I certainly never
>> meant any harm to scientists or science; and I find it ridiculous
>> for anyone to believe I, one person, could do any harm.
>>   
>> Best Regards,
>> Stewart Harris
>>   
>> Internet:[email protected]
>> Internet:[email protected]
>> Las Vegas - Home of High Rollers, Aliens and the Good Life
>>              and Continuous Motion!!
>> ... All things are difficult before they are easy.
>>   * TLX v4.00 *
>> --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#31)
>>   * Origin: Vegas PlayGround BBS * LV, NV * 24 Nodes * (1:209/276)
>>   
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11103                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:02
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: Message for Bill Teague
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>   
>> Life is based upon only two number sequences: binary and PHI, or
>> Fibronacci.  Every bone in every vertebrate has a PHI relationship
>> with a connecting bone.  All of the dimensions of butterfly body
>> size, wing width to height, etc., are PHI.  The nautilus shell is
>> a perfect Fibronacci, starting with PHI before it is even over one.
>> Sunflower spirals are always 3 or 5 in one direction with 8 or 13
>> in the other direction, corresponding with Fibronacci.  The spiral
>> galaxy is a Fibronacci spiral.  Plants grow blossoms according to
>> the Fibronacci series.
>>   
>> Cellular mitosis is binary.  Octave progressions are binary, although
>> note progressions are in PHI intervals within the octaves.  The human
>> spine is tuned with PHI ratios in adjacent discs and octave intervals
>> in the spacing.  The upper and lower body halves are a PHI ratio.
>> Standing with arms extended to the side is a PHI rectangle, within
>> 1/10000 of an inch for an average group of people.  It takes 46 cell
>> divisions in binary sequence to replace all of the cells in the body,
>> and 46 is also the number of our chromosomes.
>>   
>> It takes 13 sperm working in unison before one is able to enter to
>> fertilize the egg.  The sperm loses its tail, and grows to the exact
>> size of the egg, and intersects with it at exactly vesica pisces,
>> or where its outer edge touches the center of the egg.  This is the
>> zero point, and from here life begins.
>>   
>> These examples are in all of nature.  The Greeks used them in all of
>> their art, because they understood the geometry.  The Romans didn't
>> have a clue, which is why Greek art is very beautiful while Roman art
>> of the same era is rather ugly.  Most people, if they ever study PHI
>> in geometry are never taught how this is used outside of geometry.
>> It needs to be taught in music, and music needs to be taught in all
>> science courses, or they miss the boat.  Hope this helps!
>>   
>> Joel
>> ===============================================================================
>>   Mick, do you understand why I said you need a crash course in Sacred Geometry??
>>
>>
>> Message 11104                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:03
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : BERT POOL
>> Subject: Riiiver
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Bert,
>>   
>> It's hard to describe without a picture of the power waveform super-
>> imposed over the distance waveform.  The power leads the movement
>> like a square wave and a sine wave starting at the same point, be-
>> cause the power zero point occurs low in the distance curve, so the
>> peak pull differential becomes less as the roller gets higher. The
>> roller is starting to slow down before reaching the top of the
>> incline.
>>   
>> However, the roller has enough inertia to pass the attractions at
>> the top of the incline, and start down the ramp.  The power wave-
>> form stays above the zero point, and the peaks "fill in" if you
>> draw overlapping circles which encompass the overlapping waves.
>>   
>> The overlaps are the vesica pisces coordinates, and they are where
>> the logarithmic spirals can be seen, which are the zero points as
>> far as power curve peaks.  Now, since the TMI starts out going up-
>> hill, it seems reasonable that it should run like a bunny on a flat
>> track, and it does, and just keeps going faster.  BTW, on the ramp
>> version, if the "rail" magnets are on the table instead of on the
>> ramp, the runner is faster because the net attraction at the top of
>> the incline is offset by the angular displacement of the fields.
>>   
>> Clear as mud, right?
>>   
>> Joel
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11108                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Glenda:  Several things have transpired over the last week on the net
>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring.  See I
>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch
>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and
>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of
>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted
>> to the Net during the course of the day.  Since Joel works out of his
>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of
>> our discussions and project progress.  What became obvious to me was
>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action.  What made me
>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little
>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump".  The
>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer
>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on
>> the Net.  As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we
>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to
>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just
>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the
>> conversation instead of just one side.  What I am saying is that Joel
>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry"
>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature.  On the TMI
>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making
>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the
>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk.
>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we
>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked
>> and how it related to the Searle rollers.  After I got back home I ran
>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the
>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic
>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner
>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust
>> to continue to move.  One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned
>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller.  Well
>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
>> segments in the track as per the original plans.  The track can be a
>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic
>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces
>> vortices.  Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put
>> it, "This dog will WARP".  A very true statement for what you will have
>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non
>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing
>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of
>> excess power in the process.  The biggest problem you are faced is that
>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that
>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply
>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away
>> leaving a hole in your roof.  All kind of possibilities here.  Thanks
>> for sharing this little device with the world.  Everyone will have fun
>> with this one.  Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11128                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 20:34
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : BERT POOL
>> Subject: (R) Rollin'
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Bert, et al!  Stewart says the reason he calls it TOMI (Theory Of
>> Magnetic Instability) is because something odd happens when you join
>> individual magnets as opposed to one long magnet....there seem to be
>> little circles of influence where the fields don't blend totally and
>> these act as stairsteps of alternate repulsion/attraction....he says
>> you can try to use a long bar or cylinder magnet and it won't work.
>> He is definitely onto something with the observation....spoke with him
>> Sunday and have put him in contact with a friend who owns a
>> manufacturing and distribution company, both are very excited and
>> coming up with various doo-dads to market as novelties and
>> toys....really glad to see something is happening for Stewart, but it
>> is still young at this point as they are new to each other....something
>> about this reminds me of the barium 'flutter' as in the Sweet device
>> and also the Gary magnetic motor....>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11146                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 00:17
>> >From   : STEVE THATCHER                     -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> Subject: (R) MRA and other stuff
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> I certainly want to put my efforts in the best possible direction. I
>> have read all the messages concerning the TMI device and haven't put
>> together a mental model that I can build yet. It does sound simple
>> though. The thoughts I have been having regarding magnetism, electron
>> flow, photons, and emf all lump them in a similar category. Does anyone
>> therize that a photon stream carries a perpendicular magentic field
>> with it for example. I haven't studied up on the new photon theories
>> yet, but this one just kind of popped up as a question in my mind. Has
>> anyone produced a simple diagram for the tmi device? Maybe something
>> more concrete then message discussions will prompt me to order some
>> parts from Edmunds. Best regards, Steve Thatcher
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11149                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 01:00
>> >From   : GERALD O'DOCHARTY                  -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Norm, you said:
>> >what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
>> >Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>> >intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
>> >that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
>> >segments in the track as per the original plans. 
>>   
>> Could you elaborate on what you mean by "..Phi rate in relation to the
>> fixed magnetic track.."? This sounds very interesting.
>>   
>> THX,
>> -Gerald
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11158                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 07:20
>> >From   : PAUL VISINGER                      -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>> Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Jerry,
>> Thanks for the upgrade.  I've been busy reading the past messages.
>> But I did take time to build a TMI device and it really works.  Now I
>> need to search my current download for thoughts on the "Flapper" or the
>> "Tireless Magnetic Rodent".  I couldn't believe how the roller took
>> off!  Thanks to Joel for his instructions and especially for the tip for
>> about the Radio Shack part number.  Bye, Paul.
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11169                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 10:50
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: Miracle of Flight in Nature
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Glenda:  I read with great interest the message from Billy Teague where
>> he mentioned the flight of Hummingbirds bees and all of the other
>> Natural Aeronaughts.  Since Joel and I are well into our education on
>> the "Sacred Geometry" then the following becomes perfectly obvious to
>> the "informed.  Back some time ago there was a very good segment run on
>> PBS television (Nature or some other organization) about flight in
>> nature. When they showed a high speed photo sequence of a hummingbird
>> at a hover the researchers traced the wing tip paths and guess what
>> this trace drew?  You are on the right track for now I can relate this
>> tracing directly to the VESICA PIECES that are nestred and intersected
>> exactly the same way that your little TMI device magnetic vortices
>> intersect to establish (running through the center of the vesica pieces
>> a resulting thrust vector which causes the lift. The energy is in the
>> form of resonant standing waves created by the wing beats or strokes
>> and are actually acoustic in fact. When you look carefully at the
>> intersecting wave forms they do not intersect straight on but are
>> actually closer to a 90 degree  melding which results in the thrust
>> vector being established.  When I went through the civilian and
>> military flight schools we mathmatically proved that insects such as
>> the hugh Japanese beatles and large bumblebees could not possibly fly
>> for the wing loading would be incredible and simply could not be done.
>> Well "mother nature" gave these little creatures the secret of the
>> "SCARED GEOMETRY" to achieve what our physics say is impossible. Can
>> you say there is a lot of power in resonant geometry?  You bet and the
>> more we learn about it the more we will explain about the "NATURE" all
>> around us.  There you have it, the secret of flight, just wish we had
>> the knowledge to apply it to our transportation problems. Maybe there
>> is something behind Jerry's men in silve suits seen flying around
>> useing some sort of acoustic resonant fields.  more later.  Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11171                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 14:37
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : BERT POOL
>> Subject: Dances With Cows
>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>>
>> Howdy Bert,
>>   
>> As the roller begins to move, it intersects more magnetic flux waves
>> per unit of time, which increases force per unit of distance, which
>> increases speed, which cause it to intersect more magnetic flux waves,
>> and so on.  That is the advantage over a bar magnet, which has only
>> one set of distributed flux lines.  Each of the little bagel magnets
>> (too hard to be donuts) has its own torus field.
>>   
>> As to whether to use thick or thin magnets, and where to use them,
>> if the above paragraph is accurate, then thicker magnets would be
>> similar to bar magnets and tend to slow it down.  I've found that
>> adding pennies between the magnets has the opposite effect, so that
>> thinner magnets with equal gauss and more spacing might be best.
>> You might even put springs in between the magnets at the start of
>> the track to give it a "slingshot" effect.
>>   
>> The Radio Shack magnets have a 4.5:1 ratio of width to diameter, so
>> at the "giddy-up", you already have a lot of torque.  A lot of thin
>> magnets would overcome inertia from startup, where spaced thick mag-
>> nets would govern speed.
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11173                                  DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 17:12
>> >From   : BERT POOL                          -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> Subject: (R) Dances With Cows
>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>>
>> Joel,
>>   
>> If the TMI device can be extended into a cyclic device, i.e., a roller
>> on a continuous track, the obvious result would be a free energy
>> device.  If it can be done using permanent magnets, then it can be done
>> using electromagnets.  A permanent magnet design would be super-simple;
>> only one moving part, no adjustments, etc., which is a good thing so far
>> as reliability goes.  But if you use electromagnets, you gain
>> magnitudes of order more control over the operating conditions.  If you
>> build a circular track device, and start changing the spacing between
>> the magnets, then you will by definition change the diameter of the
>> loop, which means large mechanical changes, which is a pain.  If you
>> can do the equivalent thing by turning a potentiometer, life is much
>> easier.  I expect a simple machine to use perm. magnets, and a machine
>> which can be regulated will use electromagnets in at least the track.
>> Actually, as I think about it, if you were to replace the roller magnet
>> assembly with a coil/armature, as it passes the stationary magnets it
>> becomes an electromagnet.....hmmmm, might work, yes?
>> >> bert
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11196                                  DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 07:58
>> >From   : PAUL VISINGER
>> To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
>> Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Jerry.  I'v been having great fun playing with my TMI device.  When
>> the roller took off for the first time I was amazed and still am for
>> that matter.  It required no finger push, in fact, I had to hold on to
>> it to get it into the proper position.  I thought, "This must of been
>> what John Searle originally played with."  So, I want to know more.
>> Where can I find out about "vesica pieces" -- I've seen it mentioned in
>> quite a few messages.  Just point me in the right direction, specific
>> references would be much appreciated.  Bye, Paul.
>> P.S.  I've built several different configurations but now I want to go
>> circular!
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11197                                  DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 08:07
>> >From   : PAUL VISINGER                      -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: TMIdevice
>> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>
>> Hi Norm.  If you've already answered this question I'll get it from the
>> downloaded messages or if you're too busy I'll understand that too.
>> I've built several different versions of the TMIdevice.  The version
>> Joel described, a flat one and a ramped one with the runners flat and
>> now I want to build a circular one.  In message 11108 you mentioned
>> that you, "Increased the spin rate of the roller or runner by the Phi
>> rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied..."  How did
>> you increase the spin rate.  What is the Phi rate in relation to the
>> fixed magnetic track.  What and where are the intersecting vesica
>> pieces vortex patterns?  Any help would be appreciated.  I really like
>> your work on the MRA.  Thanks.  Bye, Paul.
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11200                                  DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 09:08
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : PAUL VISINGER
>> Subject: TMI Device
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Paul:  To answer your question which was asked by Gerald O'here goes.
>> If you roll the runner magnet assembly along a track your have a fixed
>> rate of helix magnetic flux interfaces that occur at 90 degree angles
>> between the fixed track and the rotating runner.  If you mount the
>> runner or roller on a stainless steel shaft and mount a pinnion gear at
>> the inboard end or pivot end off the shaft running on a ring gear that
>> is a greater number of teath by the Phi ratio them as the moving arm
>> proceeds forward a spin rate of + Phi will be imparted on the spinning
>> roller and you will have eliminated the friction contact with the
>> track. Just visualize the differential gears in the rear-end of your
>> car for it has a ring gear and pinnion in a hypoid gear set which
>> allows a drive shaft RPM which is greater than the axle RPM by the gear
>> ratio.  All I am doing is turning this arrangement around and letting
>> the pinion gear turn faster that the fixed ring gear.  The central
>> pivot shaft of the whole unit has a DC generator attached to provide
>> the necessary loading to prevent the Searle Effect to progress to the
>> point of "lift Off".  Believe me it will happen for when the rate of
>> intersecting magnetic flux lines of i
>> intersecting "vesica pieces" (will explain) are increasing  to the
>> point that you have a plasma folding back on itself then you will start
>> seeing a corona or pink glow which happens when this beast achieves
>> it's "N" critical rotational speed.  Searle claimed 3000 RPM was the
>> "N" crit on his disk but I'm sure it is a radius and perifial velocity
>> relationship somehow.  Joel and I have tested the increased spin rate
>> and it does allow for a greater number of flux line intersections which
>> increases the torque and acceleration of the unit.  We have resolved
>> the entire unit so that you do not have to have the broken segments it
>> the fixed magnet unit which we have formed into a contiuous circle with
>> only one outer fixed magnet with the rollers suspended on arms from a
>> central pivot point 6 each in number.  Joel found that by spacing the
>> magnets apart with copper pennies the field effect was enhanced in the
>> fixed magnet unit.  Basically it increases the little toroid flux lines
>> for there is a little leakage of flux trying to fold back in at each
>> little magnet interface (N-S) or junction. This becomes amplified when
>> you close the loop by making a continous circle of the little
>> "baggles", darnI like Joel's description of these little critters. You
>> really need to read all you can on the "Sacred Geometry" to fully
>> understand about the energies that are focused within the vesica
>> pieces.  Joel is going back and modifying the Phi and Res file for we
>> have learned a vast amount of additional knowledge since this file was
>> created.   Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11206                                  DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 14:08
>> >From   : BERT POOL
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: TMI or TOMI
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Well, I went with Norm over to Joel McClain's house last night, and I
>> was thoroughly instructed in the proper construction and operation of
>> the TMI magnetic propulsion device by Jake - a MOST astute five year
>> old!
>>   
>> The device does exactly what everyone says it will do.  The roller
>> wants to roll like hell.  It will roll like hell with ONE row of
>> magnets, instead of two.  If you extend the length of the magnets, and
>> I did extend it to about 18 inches long, it rolls the whole length, and
>> evidences NO intent to slow down or stop.  If I had a couple of rows of
>> magnets that went from here in Dallas to California, I have no doubt
>> that little sucker would pull itself all the way to Gerald O's house!
>> I have some discomfort about a CIRCULAR track, unless it is large in
>> diameter, because there is a possibility that placing the magnets at
>> the required small angle to form a torus may affect the shape of the
>> interacting fields enough between the adjacent magnets to stop it from
>> working.  But Norm's prototype will very likely work.  I'm not sure
>> the PHI ratio gearing will improve performance, but even without the
>> additional rotational speed derived from the planetary gear, it should
>> still run.
>>   
>> I've seen some neat things over the years, but nothing comes close to
>> this so far as simplicity and the fact that it moves!
>>   
>> It moves! ........ it moves up hill.  It damn near leaps in the air!
>>   
>> It is going to be most interesting to see how far we take this thing.
>>   
>> Bert
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11227                                  DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 23:58
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: Dances with PHI
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>   
>> Got my order from Am. Sci. & Surplus today...they actually do sell
>> things other than coffee mugs.  Included was the "rattleback", or
>> "space pet", the ellipsoid that only spins CCW.  If you spin it CW,
>> it rattles back and forth, stops spinning CW and spins CCW.  I Know
>> that you aren't surprised that the ratio of width to height of this
>> device is PHI.  Interesting how this was used in the geometry of
>> Noah's Ark.  Also, if you add the width and height together and mul-
>> tiply them by Phi, then double the product, you get the exact length,
>> so once again it is the Fibronacci series (PHI) and the binary
>> series, which is the times two.  Anybody could build an Ark just
>> by knowing the PHI ratio, and have a perfectly rock-less boat.
>> For some reason, the Celts used the exact same ellipsoidal pattern
>> on their knife and axe blades, but then they were primitives.
>>   
>> Other stuff...the angles of the Great Pyramid are approx. 52 and 38
>> degrees, as you know.  The cosine of 52 and the sine of 38 (actually
>> the REAL measurements, not these approximations), are both 0.618,
>> the inverse of PHI.
>>   
>> Moray King and Dave Faust sent a fax tonight, with a suggestion for
>> using a third coil around the MRA, and feeding the MRA in that manner
>> as opposed to directly connecting into the primary.  They tried to
>> upload the info as a file but weren't able to...durn 'puters.
>>   
>> Also, got a few radiac detectors...no particular reason, except they
>> were real cheap, so if you want one, it's yours.  BTW did you know
>> that the half-life of U238 is 4.5 Billion years?  Picked up that bit
>> of comforting info in the Pocket Ref book from A.S.&S.
>>   
>> C'ya,
>> Joel
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11229                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:31
>> >From   : BILL BEATY
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: Bad Griggs News!!!
>> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>>
>> All the internet traffic has made a local Seattle experimenter
>> approach me with some unsettling news about Griggs.  This guy
>> says that Griggs was involved with Aquatech, the company which
>> had the Schaffer patent, that Griggs was sent by Aquatech to
>> install their products all over the country, that Griggs split
>> off with hostility to start his own company, and that Griggs
>> is not an inventor, but just took advantage of systems he was
>> working with already.  This guy is Mike Huffman,[email protected].
>> He has just entered a patent for his own Schaffer-based device,
>> which he has done mainly to keep it from being taken over by
>> others.  He is being non-secretive, and is spreading info packets
>> around on his device so that others can duplicate it.
>> .
>> His device is a "cake" of plexi layers having routed channels in
>> the form of a slight spiral, which is then spun in a plastic
>> close-fitting chamber.  He has just begun testing, and has not
>> had the equipment together yet to measure overunity.  THe device
>> is a little 8" box connected to a 1/3 HP pump motor, and it boils
>> water in a couple of minutes.
>> .
>> Some good news: he says that Schaffer had a "pull start"
>> self-sustaining device working at one time, but Schaffer pulled
>> the old secrecy act, never told anyone how it works, and died
>> with the secret.
>> .
>> I told him the story of the Texas inventor with the self-acting
>> vegetable oil spiral turbine.  He then told me the Schaffer story,
>> and wondered why these people always take it to the grave rather
>> than just let loose.  He applauds the MRA efforts.  I haven't
>> convinced him to call Keelynet yet, but will soon.
>>
>> cc: Norman Wootan
>>      
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>>
>> Message 11231                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:58
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : PAUL VISINGER
>> Subject: Your MSG # 11198
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>> and you're welcome!
>>   
>> Glad the info was helpful, and it's really great to see lots of
>> people looking into Stewart Harris' TMI device. It's truly excellent.
>>   
>> I was most fortunate that Norm got hold of some fine material on
>> the 'sacred geometry', and is kindly sharing it with me.  Actually,
>> it was Peter Tompkins' book, "Secrets of the Great Pyramid" that
>> turned me on to PHI, and the new material goes right into the heart
>> of anti-g, ZPE, etc., and it is all PHI related, as is all of nature.
>>   
>> The term "vesica pices" is what Keely called the "neutral center", it
>> just defines it geometrically.  The CBS eye is a vesica pices.  When
>> you see it as a PHI proportion, you can connect with the concept in
>> a circuit where the fields overlap, or "breathe" into each other at
>> their centers.  We can see this happening in the torus fields of the
>> circular magnets, and can therefore calculate optimum distance and
>> spin ratios using PHI.  That's the 'secret' to the Schauberger
>> UFO design...three circles in octave proportion intersecting at
>> each other's neutral center...Fibronacci and binary.
>>   
>> >From a less 'sacred' perspective, the TMI also has a 4.5:1 torque
>> ratio, based upon the 1/4" width and 1 1/8" height at 90 degrees
>> relative to each other in the TMI.  The easiest thing for the roller
>> to do is to roll, and as it does, it intersects more fields per unit
>> of time, so it increases in speed at an increasing rate.  It can only
>> go so fast before it intersects with half of the magnets on a round
>> track, and when this goes over 180 degrees, it should go airborne.
>> That's what happened, as you know, with the Searl generator.
>>   
>> Glad you're actively researching...hit 'em hard.
>>   
>> Joel
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11234                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 10:12
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: Save the Greys
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> For those who read messages # 11227 and 11231, where Noah's Ark and
>> UFOs are equated in terms of their use of the constant phi (í), you
>> may be wondering how this could be.  Modern (at least Western) thought
>> does not provide the same "maet" concept as was used by the Egyptians
>> and others.  The maet is a term which means that one set of principles
>> is at work in all things, and that a society can base its direction
>> and ideals on these universal constants.
>>   
>> Because í is how nature chose to "work", anything that is going to
>> work within nature should emulate the í proportion to avoid working
>> against nature.  That is why all living things use this ratio, and
>> why successful free energy devices use resonance.  As seen in the
>> file, PHI&RES.ASC, harmony in vibrations is determined by the root
>> derivatives of í times frequency.  Harmonies create resonance, and
>> overlapping resonances, as Keely demonstrated, cross the zero point.
>>   
>> Walter Russell and others have been able to intuit the relationship,
>> but had they known the pervasiveness of í and used it knowingly, we
>> can only imagine how much further they could have gone.  We have that
>> opportunity.  It's only math, and really, it's very simple...da Vinci
>> and others understood it in our own recorded history.  The problem
>> for some is that when you follow the natural progressions, it explains
>> too much...it can free mankind in ways that we are only beginning to
>> realize, as with the Incunabula and other forms of consciousness
>> elevating.  These things are real, and can be accomplished naturally.
>>   
>> I believe that we are entering the dawn of a whole new era, and that
>> whether we are ready or not, we will soon be entering a higher plane
>> of existance, including unity consciousness.  It is a natural stage
>> in the evolution of the universe, and by understanding the constants
>> of the universe, we can simply walk into the light of that new day.
>> It is our birthright, denied to us by those who know the maet, but
>> who use it to "rule" with.  As with the dinosaurs who once "ruled"
>> the earth with fear, these folks are facing extinction.
>>   
>> I believe that ZPE has not been suppressed as much for the obvious
>> reason, as for the reason that understanding it of necessity leads
>> to the understanding of all else.  That is why sharing this infor-
>> mation is so very important now.  We can do anything that any machine
>> can do, and we give up our innate ability every time we use one.
>> Technology is a trap...the greys use machines as UFOs, and they are
>> now dieing out all over the universe.  We can use our own energies
>> to create higher dimensional "UFOs", called merkabas, and free our-
>> selves of all need.  We are ready now, and that is why the awareness
>> is being given.  We have been, almost literally, asleep, through no
>> fault of our own.  We are awakening now, and it's going to be a good
>> day.
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11237                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 11:13
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Well now that Joel and I convinced Bert that the effect of the Syewart
>> Harris TMI is real and has potential of running itself we are off and
>> running.  Last night I worked out enough of the geometry of a circular
>> device to determine that I need a total of 800 magnets to finalize my
>> design of a unit with an outside diameter of 23 inches with 6 rotating
>> spokes carrying the runner or rollers. Nothing ventured nothing gained
>> as we say. If it does not work we (Bert, Joel and I) will have a lot of
>> little novelity toys around to play with <g>. Is there any other use
>> for these "crummey" little magnets?  Keep the faith for we know there
>> is a way to make this into a workable device.  We all have our own
>> ideas so we have to put them into hardware form to test out the theory.
>>   It looks good on paper but the proof is in a working device.  Right
>> Jerry??  I still want to see Jerry's Hamster Cage TMI work with the
>> little magnetic rodent continously rolling along in it like ferris
>> wheel ride except the magnetic rodent stays at the bottom of the
>> spinning cage. See Jerry, Joel and I have a secret camera hidden in you
>> living room.  Ha! Ha!  Just kidding.  Norm  PS: well it is off to the
>> Radio Shacks to clean out the remaining stock. Let's see, I have 460
>> magnets now so I only have to find 340 more to complete this project.
>> ===============================================================================
>> essage 11239                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 13:06
>> >From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: The Ark, the laser and the UFO
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Just one other note for now on the "rattleback" or í designed device
>> which is the geometry of Noah's Ark.  The longitudinal axis blocks
>> laser light by inverting the phase and cancelling it.  In other words
>> laser light will not pass through it on the double í dimension.  I've
>> tried it, and you can see the cancellation of energy occurring.
>>   
>> A boat which is built on the same ratios does not rock in the water.
>> This has been tested empirically by a group of archaeologists who
>> built a small "ark" and found that it would ride over waves without
>> any feeling of motion.  The end-to-end energy is cancelled just as
>> the laser light is cancelled.
>>   
>> Put two rattlebacks together and you also have the shape of a
>> "classic" UFO.
>>   
>> Joel
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11243                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:37
>> >From   : GLENDA STOCKS
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: light universe 1/3
>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
>>
>>   
>> 27 Jan 95  01:24:12
>> By: Ian Wilson
>> To: All
>> Re: Universal Vision
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>    
>> The Geometry of Light into Matter
>>     
>> The model is a representation of a vision that I had where I saw
>> sub-particles of matter as units of consciousness. The following is
>> an overview how the order of this consciousness relates to itself
>> and combines to create physical matter and the laws of cause and
>> effect.
>>      
>> The area of thought that this vision contained was relationships in
>> numeric unity and geometric form. I am still researching several
>> outlets to this form and attempting to articulate as much as I can
>> the vision as it creates itself in to logic and unity.
>>       
>> Keep in mind that this model is a representation and it's a small
>> tool to observe relationships in energy and thought as well as it's
>> relationship to matter. The nature of this is from the science of
>> spirit into the logic of matter so you may find some of the concepts
>> not adhering to linear time rather (to) events happening in infinite
>> timeless expressiveness.
>>        
>> A single group or sub-particle is a separated unit from a whole.
>> This whole is represented by infinite timeless existance and ties
>> into an order of thought that addresses a universal consciousness
>> that is self- actualising and expressively harmonious. Light and
>> pure thought was the intended model as a representation of this
>> universal infinitum. And all aspects of this universe was divided up
>> into an infinite number of parts. When these parts descend into
>> matter, they transform from light [energy] into physical matter.
>> >From there laws are establised creating the structure and physics
>> that we form in our science.
>>         
>> For what ever reasons, the model for the singular personafied unit
>> of an infinite order was represented by this following model :
>>          
>>           
>>                  12                This model has 12 sides.
>>              11ÚÄÄÄÄ¿1             We add 12 by it's numbers to get 3
>>           10   ³    ³  2
>>           ÚÄÄÄÄÙ    ÀÄÄÄÄ¿         eg.  12 :  1 + 2 = 3
>>          9³              ³ 3
>>           ÀÄÄÄÄ¿    ÚÄÄÄÄÙ         We do this to fit it into a feild of
>>            8   ³    ³   4          unity
>>               7ÀÄÄÄÄÙ5
>>                  6
>>            
>> This singular unit is a part of a greater body of energy. In it's
>> material state, it combines with other particles forming
>> relationships and bonds. The bonds were represented by a loving,
>> harmonious recognition of self and other parts of self. Since this
>> energy is light and light has consciousness this unit is self-aware.
>> The relationship was called a family and from this family we have a
>> molecular order.
>>   
>> The particles then bond in harmonious order to form larger matter
>> based relationship. Keeping in mind that all matter comes from a
>> universal field of light energy that has altered it's frequency into
>> lower vibrations to form matter. But in it's pure state, it is the
>> same: Light. We can take a look at Einsteins theory of relativity
>>            2
>> where E=MC  This formula represents the relationship of matter and
>> light as energy.
>>    
>> And all this light has consciousness. This key (that) is lacking in
>> our science is that energy is consciousness and aware that it
>> exists. That it is self aware. And self is what this model is
>> representing.
>>     
>> When light in matter unifies, it forms a relationsip with other
>> particles according to laws of relationships between matter and
>> light. This becomes a greater whole and we'll form how this order
>> creates a larger sub-particle.
>>      
>> We'll look at four groups of consciousness forming a single particle
>> of matter in a relationship. That particle has a unified number and
>> it has a relationship; we look at 4 units.
>>       
>>        
>>         
>>                  ÚÄÄÄÄ¿            4 units X 12 sides = 48
>>                  ³    ³      we add 48 together to unify the number
>>        ÚÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ    ÀÄÄÄÄ¿
>>        ³    ³              ³       48 :  4 + 8 = 12
>>   ÚÄÄÄÄÙ    ÀÄÄÄÄ¿    ÚÄÄÄÄ´
>>   ³              ³    ³    ³ And we have 12, which in turn adds to 3.
>>   ÀÄÄÄÄ¿    ÚÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÙ    ÀÄÄÄÄ¿
>>        ³    ³    ³              ³
>>        ÃÄÄÄÄÙ    ÀÄÄÄÄ¿    ÚÄÄÄÄÙ
>>        ³              ³    ³
>>        ÀÄÄÄÄ¿    ÚÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÙ
>>             ³    ³
>>             ÀÄÄÄÄÙ
>>   
>> What physical matter reality represents is light at a denser
>> vibrational state. Since light is consciousness, it was by thought
>> that the light had lowered itself in it's vibration into sub
>> particles. And it was this light in it's thoughts that formed
>> frequency, matter and fields of energy et al; the laws we strive to
>> understand.
>>    
>> The order comes from attraction and replusion. Since light in a
>> matter state creates a resonance of vibration it has a magnetic
>> order. Electro-magnetic fields form at various frequencies and this
>> identifying order creates the grounds on which matter collects into
>> it's schools of particles and families.
>>     
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11244                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:40
>> >From   : GLENDA STOCKS
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: light universe 2/3
>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
>>
>>   
>> The Universe as a Whole.
>>    
>> When addressing any universal concepts we scientifically see the
>> universe in terms of light, energy and matter. Energy being neither
>> created nor destroyed, just transformed into one stage or another,
>> but it is all energy, and the more groups of energy unified in one
>> frequency or pattern the more intense and focused the energy
>> becomes.
>>     
>> The universe is intelligent and energy has intelligence. Our
>> thoughts are comprised of electrical charges passing through neural
>> transmitters in the synapse. This unified balance of patterned
>> energy and it's applications give us intelligence, but intelligence
>> is still energy.
>>      
>> The reason we think on a human level is because we have a specific
>> frequency of thought energy and it's relationship in it's creative
>> design gives the framework for our consciousness and directs or
>> controls this intelligence for the purpose of this linear human
>> experience. This is commonly noted by brain wave patterns alpha,
>> beta, theta, and delta. Controlled frequencies of neural energy
>> (Intelligence).
>>       
>> We are focused particles of energy, matter and light formed in a
>> very specific design to comprise the experience we are. And it is
>> now very important to start to address thought and it's influence on
>> itself. Energy reacts to thought. But we are getting into a series
>> of concepts that humanly has been denied or submersed by the
>> inability of our thinkers to grasp that their thoughts are an energy
>> and are influencing creatively the effects of thought on light as
>> electromagnetic brainwave patterns.
>>        
>> Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And thoughts do
>> create very specific fields of biomagnetic energy in the mind and
>> this has an effect much like dropping a pebble into a pond. It is an
>> energy, but it is not felt physically rather by electromagnetic
>> fields instead of matter fields.
>>         
>> The universe is connected by both physical bonds and electromagnetic
>> bonds. Electromagnetic energy is becoming the science of the soul
>> and this is common with such concepts of an AURA which really is a
>> biomagnetic field that surrounds the body created by the various
>> patterns of electrical impusles caused by thoughts.
>>          
>> When the mind needs the body to preform a task, it sends a signal to
>> a muscle and this muscle reacts with controlled electrical nervous
>> responses and thus creates a movement acting upon a denser energy
>> stored in as fuel for the cells. Still it's different fields of
>> energy preforming very specific tasks. But it is all energy at
>> different frequencies.
>>           
>> This echange creates the biomagnetic aura as energy surges in this
>> living machine. And it all starts with thought. And thought is what
>> we will examine in some depth and draw upon some areas of thought,
>> of applied thought by influencing electromagnetic energy. And this
>> gets really interesting.
>>   
>> Back to the Vision and it's examples.
>>    
>> The vision then began to illustrate a field of pure white light
>> energy as the sum total of all energy existing in the universe in a
>> perfect harmonious balanced state of existence. That all parts of
>> this energy were at the exact same frequency and order of balance as
>> a body, much like an infinite ocean.
>>     
>> This field was labled the source, source meaning the source of all
>> energy and energy being consciousness. So a very intelligent and
>> self aware field of energy.
>>      
>> When this field began to apply thought, parts of it's self began to
>> form to those thoughts and this was illustrated as a change of
>> frequency and the birth of a new level of energy. This new level of
>> energy was the same but different and since it's thoughts were on a
>> different field than the first infinite body, this field was more
>> focused and represented the first applied thought.
>>       
>> And in an instant of infinite time, a reaction was formed. Call it
>> the big bang, or what ever concept of birth, and energy began to
>> lower in frequency and created personifications as this reaction
>> caused the entire field of energy to form the structure of the
>> universe by an order of applied self-seeking energy.
>>        
>> This reaction created a number of realities, energy systems and
>> physical matter reality was one of many. Physical matter reality was
>> the moment when this energy dropped so low in frequency that it
>> crystallised and became unified at a series of dense levels.
>>         
>> Since thought is energy and human thought is energy focused at a
>> very human level, we have to understand that there are many fields
>> of intelligent energy; all self aware as we are self-aware. We are
>> by no means the most intelligent force in the universe. And the
>> application of thought causes energy to react and form around that
>> thought giving it a dimension to exist in. And depending on the
>> frequency of that thought, it will manifest. And I mean it WILL
>> manifest, either as a mental formed image to a chain of events that
>> gives birth to it in reality. I will go into more depth as I will
>> lose so many at this point. So I will clarify this so we can
>> understand the principles of this.
>>   
>> The vision continued to show that these lower particles as they
>> dropped in frequency became less aware of the source and more
>> submersed into darkness. I saw that the darker it became, the closer
>> it came to the physical matter universe until the universe was much
>> like the stars in the sky, pin points of energy balanced by a field
>> of cause and effect.
>>    
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>>
>> Message 11245                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:44
>> >From   : GLENDA STOCKS
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: light universe 3/3
>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
>>
>>   
>> Why thought as a creative energy?
>>    
>> It was thought that gave birth to the reaction which created the
>> universes. Thought was dynamic and since thought is energy, it
>> created a very specific field of energy. And since that feild was
>> energy, it also had thought, but a different thought so another
>> reaction was formed and we have a chain reaction much like what
>> happens in a nuclear bomb when a chain reaction occurs.
>>     
>> And in all this reaction there were very simple universal laws that
>> formed around the relationship of energy and it's self. And we begin
>> to get into emotion, love, creation and other mechanisms of
>> communication that generate our reality and all realities that exist
>> at the different feilds of frequency.
>>      
>> This now becomes a science of light, and the science of thought.
>> Reality is energy, and energy is thought. There is a relationship
>> that we have to identify with since this will be a very major
>> realisation for most that reality is more energy than it is physical
>> but since there are specific laws of cause and effect we find that
>> when energy hits another energy feild it creates a specific
>> reaction. But it has been and always will be energy and it's
>> relationships.
>>       
>> We exist in a mental universe of crystallised thought energy. Our
>> senses are a form of communication devices for translating this
>> specific reality and it's order of cause and effect. When we touch
>> something, we are sent a message by that "something" that we touch
>> according to the relationship of cause and effect. That object tells
>> us by feeling that it is, say a ball. A group of focused energy in a
>> constructed thought forming a ball in a reality of cause and effect.
>> That ball is still energy and energy is thought crystallised at a
>> very specific frequency.
>>        
>> This is a language. We think that our garbled human words are the
>> only thing that is communicating with us but we forget that all our
>> senses are in fact communicating with very specific frequencies of
>> energy. That the whole observed reality is speaking to our senses
>> screaming I am BALL! And we feel this ball, taste it, hear it
>> bounce, see it's collection of particles. But we do not realise that
>> we are from the same creative origin and lack the connection to
>> understand that this ball is a energy system that has an awareness
>> at a very specific feild.
>>   
>> I would like to go into detail, but the best advice I can offer is
>> eat some rice crispies so that you can have all your senses
>> activated by this communication of energy and it's relationship with
>> your awareness. And instead of just wolfing it down, be aware that
>> your senses are communicating with very specific reactions of energy
>> and this dinner is simply communicating to you that this is what it
>> is, and you are sharing an exchange of energy with it. And enjoy
>> eating it, as all of the sensory input is a language of matter
>> reality. And this is what happens when you observe a very specific
>> crytallised thought energy. Apply this to all you experience
>> physically. And be aware that there is a relationship and a language
>> being observed at many differnet levels at once, to create your
>> sensory experience with this energy system.
>>    
>> Can human thought manifest in reality?
>>     
>> ABSOLUTELY!!!! 100%!!!! We just have a few handicaps to over-come.
>> First, we need imagination. We have to believe (and know) that we
>> can create something. And then we have to apply that thought. It
>> starts with an idea, say the wheel. The wheel was formed first by an
>> human idea. And then this human acted upon this energy of thought an
>> formed it by the means available to it. And by shaping physical
>> reality to a desired thought, a wheel was fashioned by a very human
>> hand.
>>      
>> Then this wheel had a very specific purpose and it spoke to man, and
>> man called it wheel. When I say it spoke to him, it was observed by
>> senses as a circular object of specific order and design.
>>       
>> All of our technology today comes from ideas that man has acted upon
>> when his desire became so strong that he had to form that thought by
>> means of physically hammering it out. They could not have formed if
>> thought was not first initiated. That it was thought seeking
>> manifestation and building energy, created the events which lead to
>> the first wheel being fashioned.
>>        
>> If we think of something, and begin to add emotion to it, chances
>> are we will dream of it if we are active. That the thought formed in
>> an electromagnetic reality if you would like. If more energy is
>> added to this thought, a person might have an inspiration all of a
>> sudden to get off one's bottom and actually fulfill that dreamed of
>> idea.
>>         
>> Thought forms reality, much how we form our technology. Reality was
>> a thought before it became crystallised. I will end this portion of
>> this discussion as I am rushing to get this out before I get lazy
>> and uninspired :) In the next segment we will begin to unlock how
>> our thoughts can manifest certain events in reality since there is a
>> reaction caused by this. And hence we will talk in some detail on
>> thought manifestation.
>>   
>>                          Till then,
>>                                   Ian Wilson
>>    
>> Ian Wilson               102-197 Roy Ave
>> Penticton      B.C.V2A 3M8 Canada
>> (604)-493-3455
>>     
>> This article is still being flushed out, so it is raw material and
>> will be revised as I include a lot more of what this area is
>> covering. I am just trying to get this out for a few who asked about
>> it, but more thought is required before it is fully explained as it
>> is.
>>      
>> Ian Wilson
>>       
>>   * Origin: Penticton Community Online Media (1:353/115) FidoNet
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11246                                  DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:47
>> >From   : GLENDA STOCKS
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: crystals
>> Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
>>
>> Origin: XBN - 0001 - F:I_UFO
>>    From: DEBORAH MAYA                  Public
>>      To: GLENDA STOCKS
>>    Date: 01/28/95 at 05:28
>>      Re: CRYSTAL SCIENCE
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> HI!
>> This is another page in The 7 Mysteries Of Life: (Guy Murchie)
>> Crystal Science:  Piezo, The Crystal of Life (double terminated). The
>> sort of crystal that reconcites this paradox of life best of
>> all is the rather extraordinary type called piezo, with
>> something like a very simple nervous system that makes it
>> generate an electric current whenever it is distorted by
>> mechanical pressure. The verb " to press" in Greek is piezin so
>> it was only logical to name this kind of vital response the
>> piezoelectric effect. It occurs because distorting a crystal
>> means moving atoms in relation  in one another and, since some
>> of them are ions carrying extra electrons, this kind of
>> distortion amounts to a flow of electrons which by difinition,
>> collectively add up to an electric current. Putting it another
>> way as the illustration shows (in book) when a piezoelectric
>> crystal unit is not distorted its centers of positive and
>> negative electric charge conside and there is no flow of
>> current. But the same unit is squeezed into a different shape,
>> the charge centers are pushed apart and the current flows as
>> long as the centers keep moving. Further more because the
>> phenomenon is relative, it works recipiocally-so that, when an
>> outside electric current is applied, the charge centers move
>> and the crystal contracts or, if connected to an altering
>> current, it alternately contracts and expands. In which case of
>> course it becomes an oscillator and regulate frequencies in all
>> sorts of electronic equipment.  (especially radios and
>> communications equipment) Among the better types of crystals
>> for piezoelectricity are salt, because its full of ions,
>> Quartz, tourmaline, and barium titanate, the last of which has
>> become important in radio and TV, microphones, where early this
>> century it learned to sing, Transmitters, submarine sonar
>> systems, ultrasonic tools and cleaning devices. (Can you
>> imagine with natural piez?) Feromagetic crystal with oppositely
>> magnetized sublatties so indenpendltly responsive to temperature
>> that by warming or cooling it a mere degree of two (as when
>> holding it in hand, as I do during a Transmission) it polartity
>> can be reversed, making it usefull for storing information in
>> computer memory cells. Another bi way jump takes us to the size
>> of a lava field containing quartz, such as a large one on North
>> Idu peninsula in Japan where an earthquake in November 1930 was
>> accompanied by spectacular lightning in a clear sky, a phenoemon
>> already becoming well enough recognized to have disseminated
>> the theory that piezoelectric crystals subjected to disrupted
>> mechanical pressure over many square miles of territory CAN
>> GENERATE VOLTAGE SUFFICENT TO CAUSE A THUNDERSTORM. (and a lot
>> of WEATHER CONTROL type conditions) In all such widely
>> different cases, it seems approprate to cite the increasing
>> evidence that in magnetically ordered crystals, the spins of
>> the atoms periodically do something that could be called a
>> flip, reversing their direction and polarity of Earth, the Sun
>> and the Stars and probably the Galaxies. And this change
>> actually advances from atom to atom like a roll of falling
>> dominoes in a microprogression physicist call a spin (indeed)
>> wave that sweeps  through the material like a swell on a ocean.
>> It is a vital factor in the melodic reality behind the wave of
>> nature of all matter-the still mysterious truth discovered in
>> France in 1922 by Louis de Broglie after the merest hint in
>> acient ancient times by py l or t pythagoras who had listened
>> and listen for and eventually hear, the MUSIC OF THE SPHERES.  ****8
>> [...]
>> --- FMail 0.92
>>   * Origin: Spirit BBS **704-297-5973**Fido#1:3666/701 (1:3666/701)
>> ===============================================================================
>> Message 11250                                  DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 09:28
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Glenda:  Relay to Stewart Harris that when Joel, Bert and I get the TMI
>> device into a self sustaining form that will generate some extra energy
>> beyond what it takes to run itself the device will be intoduced to the
>> world as "The Harris Effect Generator" (HEG) and not the Searle Effect
>> Generator although they are closely related. Stewart's device is really
>> a poor boys approach that accomplishes the same results.  "Elegantly
>> Simple".  Just want all to know and give credit to the source of the
>> knowledge that will make it all possible.  Sure glad you are into the
>> "Sacred Geometry" for in it lies all the answers to many questions. I
>> am working out the proper geometry of the circular self sustaining
>> device as we write and exchange ideas.  To answer your question regards
>> the Vesica Pieces pattern all you have to do is clasp both of your
>> cupped hands together and visualize the thrust vector that would run
>> diagonally through the neutral center of the nested cup formed by your
>> hands.  This is the energy vector formed by the intersection of two
>> energies coming together in exactly the same strengths and frequencies
>> to form the standing wave.  That is the way Joel and I see it but we
>> don't have all the answers and this explanation will surfice in our
>> minds till someone comes up with concrete proof otherwise.  You know
>> all about opinions, everyone has one and I'm sure all will have a
>> different answer as to how the TMI really works.  I had fun yesterday
>> going around and cleaning out 4 Radio Shack Store of their loose magnet
>> stock.  The Managers would ask me what I needed so many of these
>> magnets for.  I would say "Just ring up my purchase then I will tell
>> you".  After the sale was complete I would draw out the TMI and explain
>> to which the Manager would say, "darn it, you just bought all my
>> magnets so I will have to order more before I can build my own TMI.
>> The Tandy Wharehouse Computer is going nuts with this demand curve and
>> the reorder quantities are going out the roof.  I can see a night shift
>> working at the Tandy Magnet Plant at Ft. Worth.  Ha! Ha!  Will keep you
>> all informed as to progress on the "HEG".  Norm
>>
>>
>>
>> Message 11255                                  DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 12:35
>> >From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Norm!  The hamster cage model was one Stewart and I both discussed
>> but I had designed one that is basically the current linear model on
>> edge.....there are several people who have written, called or emailed
>> they are doing essentially the same thing....to have one single closed
>> loop that propels the magnet continually is the secret and one that has
>> been missed for so many years....I am told there was a device of this
>> nature over 40 years ago that ran continuously....and after a couple of
>> years of so, everything became magnetic and the device stopped....the
>> inventor then simply replaced the magnets and it resumed...
>> ...
>> One other thing, do you remember the Hummel flying disk???  The
>> cylindrical magnetic suspension chamber uses the same continuous
>> forward thrust that had me going so bad on the way back and resulted in
>> that feeble attempt with the two black disks with all the little
>> magnets glued onto it.....
>> ...
>> It would have worked had they been attached as Stewart Harris had done to
>> take advantage of the 'magnetic instability'....since 1978, he has had
>> this information and been trying to get it out in one form or another,
>> now it's hit and will lead to phenomenal things....IT INDEED WORKS...
>> ...
>> Just got a call from Dan, after we talked last night, he rigged up the
>> magnets and was just laughing his head off at how it worked just as
>> described and dammit, after all these years, the principle (one of them)
>> is SO SIMPLE a child could do it.....anyway, he is placing an order
>> with AZ for hundreds of magnets to develop a circular track...
>> ...
>> It will be fun to watch this next year as the newsletters, conferences
>> and indeed THE MEDIA become aware and focussed on this principle...I
>> have sent out packages to all the contacts, TESLA, ESJ, BORDERLAND,
>> NEN, SEA, KING, BEARDEN, ETC....so they will be aware of what is going
>> on with the full details....it will simply expand now way beyond
>> this.....I just want Stewart to get his full due as the DISCOVERER of
>> the effect, not that others have not done it, but that Stewart first
>> RELEASED it for others to understand.....PHANTASTIC!!!......>>>  Jerry
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11272                                  DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 08:08
>> >From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
>> To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
>> Subject: (R) TMI Plans
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>>   JM>
>>   JM> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are
>>   JM> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start.
>>   JM>
>>   [snip]
>>   JM>
>>   JM> Put together ten magnets.  They hold together pretty well as a
>> result
>>   JM> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them
>>   JM> anyway.  This is the "runner".  The magnet stacks along the sides
>> of
>>   JM> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you
>>   JM> will want to tape around each stack.  Make these stacks, and set
>> them
>>   JM> aside.  Cut and prefold the cardboard.  Next, you will tape the
>> side
>>   JM> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps".
>>   |
>>   |      This reminded me of some thing, so I want and pulled
>>   | my "Magnet File" (Need to look in my files more often
>>   | things in there I didn't remember having, see near end):
>>   |
>>   |      From Science & Mechanics Magazine, Spring 1980,
>>   | "Amazing Magnet-Powred Motor" by Jorma Hyypia.
>>   |
>>   |      On page 46: "In the assembly at right the vehicle is
>>   | propelled, in either direction, by the force of the large
>>   | magnets arranged below tracks."
>>   |
>>   |      On page 47: is a Gauss plot:  "... plots of
>>   | experimental data showing the dramatically different
>>   | magnetic effects at the north and south poles of armature
>>   | magnet.  These are "STEEPED" [Emphasis mine] readings made
>>   | over the stator magnets and spaces between them.  If the
>>   | magnetic flux patterns are plotted on a continuous basis as
>>   | the armature moves along the stator track, the result is a
>>   | "sinousoidal" graph.  .... showing complex magnetic forces
>>   | interacting to create off-balance effects that move the
>>   | armature from right to left..."   This plot looks like your
>>   | corrugated cardboard.
>>   |
>>   |      [Next plan a trip trip to Toys'R'Us ....]
>>   |
>>   |      "A transparent plastic sheet atop this magnet
>>   | assembly supports a length of plastic model rail-road track.
>>   | The vehicle, basically a model railroad flatcar, supports a
>>   | foil-wrapped pair of curved magnets, plus some sort of
>>   | weight, in some cases merely a rock.  The weight is needed
>>   | to keep the vehicle down on the track, against the powerful
>>   | magnetic forces that would otherwise push it askew....
>>   |
>>   |      "...I was prepared to develop eye strain in an
>>   | effort to detect some sort of motion in the vehicle. ... The
>>   | moment the inventor let go of the vehicle he carefully
>>   | placed at one end of the track, it accelerated and literally
>>   | **ZIPPED** from one end to the other onto the floor!
>>   | **Wow**!"
>>   |
>>   |      "Knowing that I would be asked if the track might
>>   | have had a slant, I reversed the vehicle and started it from
>>   | the opposite end of the track.  It worked just as effectively
>>   | in the reverse direction.  In fact, the vehicle can even
>>   | navigate a respectable up-grade."
>>   |
>>   |      Also see patent "4,151,431 4/24/1979 Permanent
>>   | Magnet Motor" by Howard R. Johnson.  Note that the graph "biassing
>>   | magnetic field" on the first page is from some other patent,
>>   | but I don't know which one.  Also this patent is for a
>>   | rotatory thing not the linear thing described above.  It was
>>   | the linear model demonstrated, but the a rotary thing that
>>   | was patented.  Also there has been some questions over the
>>   | years if some of the article was true or not.
>>   |
>>   |      Don't over look neat things you can do with magnetic
>>   | 'craft' tape.  You can get 20 foot rolls at any 'craft
>>   | store', didn't you every wonder how all of those things got
>>   | stuck to the front of the refiduator????
>>   |
>>   |      There is also the work of Bill Muller (2/29/1984).
>>   |
>>   |      Picture a "Lazy Susan" on the moving part are
>>   | intermixed magnets and iron blocks spaced every 22.5 degrees
>>   | (center to center).  On the outside (non moving part) are
>>   | larger magnets/blocks spaced every 24 degrees (center to
>>   | center).  I know this is vague, but I can't read most of the
>>   | details from this crummy copy.  It was reported to work, but
>>   | be slow and jerky, with little torque.
>>   |
>>   |
>>   |      As for the part about my bad memory, I have a copy
>>   | of "Perpetual Motion Journal", March 1969, Volume I, Number
>>   | 4.  Any one know if these people are still around?  One
>>   | thing I can say is that the quality of the coping machines
>>   | was a lot better back then than now, I can count the number
>>   | of turns on the coils...
>>   |
>>   |      Any way it covers these patens:
>>   |
>>   |      #1,835,721 for a permanent magnet motor by Arthur
>>   | Powell.
>>   |
>>   |      #1,963,213 for a magnetic motor was issued to J.W.
>>   | Poysa, 6/19/1934.
>>   |
>>   |      #1,859,643, 5/24/1932, by Mr. Harry L. Worthington.
>>   |
>>   |      #1,859,764, May 24, 1932 by Geroge H. Bougon.  This
>>   | one closely resembles what you have described.
>>   |
>>   |      Also in the March 1879  (yes 18) issue of Harper's
>>   | Magazine, reprinted in "The Theosophist" for November 1879,
>>   | is reported to be a drawings of a working motor, any one got
>>   | these laying around?
>>   |
>>   |      And from NASA we have "A Linear Magnetic Motor and
>>   | Generator: A device that can be used as a bidirectional
>>   | motor or AC generator", GSC-12518.  [Nothing self sustaining
>>   | with this one tho.  I've noticed some thing about this NASA
>>   | stuff, any one of these things alone is not particularly
>>   | exciting.  But I've amassed a large collection of them, the
>>   | sum of the whole is more than its components, there is a
>>   | clear pattern of 'Free Energy' stuff emerging under
>>   | the guise of "Space Operation".]
>>   |
>>   |   "There is nothing new under the sun.  See this is new."
>>   |
>> ===============================================================================
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11268                                  DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 07:17
>> >From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To     : ALL
>> Subject: Inter-Atomic Resonance
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> For a long time I have been struggling with an idea or theory which I
>> will share with everyone now and will write up for Jerry as a file if
>> he wants to post it.  It goes like this: In 1892 Nikola Tesla created
>> electrostatic discharges from an induction coil that possesed every
>> characteristic of what we commonly know as a chemical decomposition
>> flame and posed the question to the scientific world; "Is a chemical
>> flame simply a release of atomic electrostatic rewsonances during
>> transition between states of matter?"  My Cold Fusion Patent search was
>> based on the theory that since electrostatic forces are the "glue" or
>> binding force which holds all mater together then if we use resonant
>> standing waves (scalar effect) then we could disassemble the atomic
>> structure which is what Tesla had proposed during his Lecture before
>> the Electrical Engineering Conference in London when de discribed his
>> carbon button lamp experiments. My theory explains the dissosation
>> process in the electrolytic cell when we separate hydrogen and oxygen
>> from water. It is the inter-atomic resonances that cause the
>> disassociation of the hydrogen from the oxygen in the simple
>> electroylisis of water.  The normally strong molecular bond of the H2O
>> molecule is broken by the difference in resonant frequencies of
>> hydrogen and oxygen which are excited by the flow of electric current.
>> When hydrogen is oxidized by oxygen (combustion) the results, water and
>> a release of energy which we perceive as heat and light is actually a
>> broad band of electrostatic resonances. This conforms with Tesla's
>> observations. Since the electromagnetic spectrum goes from "0"HZ or DC
>> all the way up to Cosmic Rays and who knows how much higher (infinity)
>> with no differentation or categories of energy then why can't all
>> frequencies be electrostatic resonances. When we feel heat we say  that
>> is "heat" but it is actually and electrostatic resonance that we
>> perceive as heat and if the frequency is high enough it becomes visible
>> red or even higher freq it becomes white light if the resonances are
>> broad band to encompass enough frequenciesa
>> More later on this subject for Jerry does not want files in the message
>> base.  Think about this one.  Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> To all, as you can see that all of this TMIDEVIC activity occured during the whole MRA slug fest, both Joel and I were pretty busy juggling the balls in the circus. Lol
>>
>> On 2/17/2019 2:28 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> Can you tell us more about this device Joel commented "this dog will 
>>> warp"
>>>
>>> Sounds like some kind of Searle device possibly without the 
>>> individual rollers.  Perhaps similar to my concept of polarization 
>>> bias via spin locking along with magnetic lenzing.
>>>
>>> Interesting how ferromagnetic materials are so easy to achieve 
>>> molecular alignment.
>>>
>>> When studying the MRA did you determine to what alignment 
>>> relationship the piezo had with the E field, if it was perpendicular 
>>> again as the E to B and in what direction of rotation?
>>> Assuming the insect flight may also have something to do with piezo 
>>> electric mode...
>>>
>>> Wonder which way one would have to align to allow for transparency 
>>> to visible light...
>>>
>>> On 2/16/2019 5:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The vortex phenomenon is everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>
>>>> Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13
>>>> From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>>>> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
>>>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>>>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>>>
>>>> Glenda:  Several things have transpired over the last week on the net
>>>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I
>>>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch
>>>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and
>>>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of
>>>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted
>>>> to the Net during the course of the day.  Since Joel works out of his
>>>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of
>>>> our discussions and project progress.  What became obvious to me was
>>>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action.  What made me
>>>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little
>>>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump".  The
>>>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer
>>>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on
>>>> the Net.  As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we
>>>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to
>>>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just
>>>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the
>>>> conversation instead of just one side.  What I am saying is that Joel
>>>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry"
>>>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature.  On the TMI
>>>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making
>>>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the
>>>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk.
>>>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we
>>>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked
>>>> and how it related to the Searle rollers.  After I got back home I ran
>>>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the
>>>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic
>>>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner
>>>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust
>>>> to continue to move.  One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned
>>>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well
>>>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
>>>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>>>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
>>>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
>>>> segments in the track as per the original plans.  The track can be a
>>>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic
>>>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces
>>>> vortices.  Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put
>>>> it, "This dog will WARP".  A very true statement for what you will have
>>>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non
>>>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing
>>>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of
>>>> excess power in the process.  The biggest problem you are faced is that
>>>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that
>>>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply
>>>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away
>>>> leaving a hole in your roof.  All kind of possibilities here. Thanks
>>>> for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun
>>>> with this one.  Norm
>>>> ===============================================================================
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/2019 7:32 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> =============================================================================== 
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Message 11109 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:46
>>>> > From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
>>>> > To     : BERT POOL
>>>> > Subject: MIT report
>>>> > Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>>> >
>>>> > Bert:  Great report you posted yesterday. I need to go back to the
>>>> > Hydrosonic Pump testing that Joel and I did and write up our findings
>>>> > so those guys will have a better understanding as to what is going on
>>>> > in the Griggs and Perkins type pumps. They are off track by believing
>>>> > that the pitting effect on the rotor is caused by heat. joel and 
>>>> I have
>>>> > already determined that the whole anomolous heating effect is an
>>>> > electrical phenomenon which we proved by building the pump unit 
>>>> with a
>>>> > transparent outer tube so we could study the cadeuses helix standing
>>>> > wave patterns which were composed of millions of very tiny bubbles in
>>>> > the shape of little tornadoes in the form of an "S" shape. The
>>>> > electrical effect is obvious by the presence of a very strong 
>>>> magnetic
>>>> > field around the rotor in the form of a magnetic monopole.  I'm am
>>>> > surprised that Gene Mallove did not tell Griggs about our 
>>>> research fro
>>>> > I sent him a complete package on our testing of the Perkins Pump unit
>>>> > along with the MRA info. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Norm
>>>> > 
>>>> =============================================================================== 
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/16/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>> >> Moray King,  please note.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 
>>>> =============================================================================== 
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Message 11075 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:40
>>>> >> From   : BERT POOL                          -- RECEIVED --
>>>> >> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>>>> >> Subject: Griggs, C.F., motors, etc., cont.
>>>> >> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Norm, here's the good stuff!
>>>> >> Message #800 - Fidonet - Science
>>>> >>    Date: 01-23-95 23:55:14
>>>> >>    From: Michael Fullerton
>>>> >>      To: All
>>>> >> Subject: Cold Fusion Day at MIT
>>>> >> Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
>>>> >> From: [email protected] (Eugene Mallove)
>>>> >> Subject: Brief Report on MIT IAP Cold Fusion Day
>>>> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:50:03 GMT
>>>> >> Lines: 139
>>>> >> [
>>>> >> *Brief* Memo on IAP Cold Fusion Day at MIT by Eugene F. Mallove,
>>>> >>    Sc.D., meeting organizer
>>>> >> [
>>>> >> The Cold Fusion Day IAP meeting at MIT on Saturday, January 21, 
>>>> which
>>>> >> I organized, was in my view, a spectacular success. About 150
>>>> >> attendees in rapt attention for about 10 hours in the main Physics
>>>> >> Lecture Hall (Room 6-120). Several high points came at the end 
>>>> of the
>>>> >> day:
>>>> >> (A) Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc. (Rome, Georgia) gave a
>>>> >> magnificent presentation with new data on *massive melting* that has
>>>> >> occurred on the periphery of his Hydrosonic Pump aluminum rotors on
>>>> >> several occasions. He also described re-welding of melted 
>>>> material to
>>>> >> the rotor surface -- an even higher-temperature effect, he said. He
>>>> >> had one such rotor unit there and you could see and feel it.
>>>> >> Fantastically high temerpatures would be required to do that and 
>>>> this
>>>> >> is NOT ordinary cavitation. Among other observations, if it were
>>>> >> simple cavitation, why would that not occur as a regular feature of
>>>> >> Hydrosonic Pump operation? -- it does not. Cavitation experts at
>>>> >> Georgia Inst. of Technology have now become involved. They say it is
>>>> >> NOT cavitaiton. Griggs presented some stunning photomicrographs.
>>>> >> Meanwhile, the over-unity effect continues to be seen, even as 
>>>> Griggs
>>>> >> continues to sell in recent months several hundred thousand dollars
>>>> >> worth of Hydrosonic Pumps for standard applications up to 250 HP.
>>>> >> (B) Bert Werjefelt from PolyTech(USA) in Hawaii spoke about his work
>>>> >> on magnetic motors and the theory behind them. He reported that
>>>> >> experiments have seen output powers of 450 watts electric, with only
>>>> >> 150 watts electric going in. Attempts at self-sustaining have been
>>>> >> successfull for periods of minutes. The company now thinks it knows
>>>> >> how to make a self-sustainer continue indefinitely and is 
>>>> building one
>>>> >> right now, expected to be ready in the next month or two. He showed
>>>> >> gorgeous CAD diagrams of the 100-200 watt self-sustainer now under
>>>> >> construction in Hawaii. He explained how it worked (the precise
>>>> >> balancing of repulsion and attraction systems to substantially 
>>>> reduce
>>>> >> torque). It was obvious that many if not most in the audience 
>>>> accepted
>>>> >> his apparently very solid experimental conclusions -- even *some* I
>>>> >> would have thought would have left in disgust. Werjefelt put 
>>>> forth his
>>>> >> theoretical ideas, which are based, in part, on suggestions made by
>>>> >> several (now) Nobel laureate physicists in the 1950s regarding 
>>>> nuclear
>>>> >> magnetic spin systems (Pound, Purcell, and Ramsey). Others in the
>>>> >> audience were extremely excited by this report, and put forth their
>>>> >> theoretical ideas. Werjefelt is a solid mechanical engineer, whose
>>>> >> company manufactures pioneering FAA-certified safetly equipment. 
>>>> He is
>>>> >> deeply involved in aviation safety issues and would have much
>>>> >> credibility to lose if he were not on absolutely solid ground with
>>>> >> this magnetic energy technology. He has been working quietly in this
>>>> >> field for about ten years. On the advice of his patent attorneys, he
>>>> >> published his general ideas in an article titled, "Magnetic 
>>>> Battery,"
>>>> >> in that countner-scientific culture journal, "Extraordinary Science"
>>>> >> (Telsa Society), May/June/July 1993, which is availbale in 
>>>> places like
>>>> >> Barnes& Nobel book stores. Don't let your prejudices about the Tesla
>>>> >> Society fool you, this is a very carefully crafted scientific 
>>>> article
>>>> >> with some excellent possible avenues to explain concrete 
>>>> experimental
>>>> >> results.
>>>> >> The 8-minute video tape of the Japanese developments in this area of
>>>> >> "Dream Energy" (Magnetic Energy)  was shown. This had aired on 
>>>> FUJI TV
>>>> >> in Japan on October 20, 1993. There are four major coporations
>>>> >> involved under MITI aegis: Sumitomo, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and
>>>> >> Matsushita. Werjefelt's company appears to have a very strong patent
>>>> >> position in his area, however. The chief engineer of the Aerospace
>>>> >> Division of Sumitomo has visited Werjefelt and told him that this
>>>> >> discovery is "the greatest discovery of the 20th century."
>>>> >> Gene Mallove, who has been working with others who are getting
>>>> >> similar, related results with smaller units,  will co-author a paper
>>>> >> with Bert Werjefelt that will be presented at the Fifth 
>>>> International
>>>> >> Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF5) in Monte Carlo, Monaco (April 
>>>> 9-13,
>>>> >> 1995). This paper will present both experimental evidence and a
>>>> >> suggested theoretical framework. It is expected that several working
>>>> >> self-sustaining units will be brought to ICCF5. There is a possible
>>>> >> (likely!) connection with cold fusion thermal effects that have been
>>>> >> seen.
>>>> >> The MIT IAP proceedings of 1/21/95 were professionally videotaped. A
>>>> >> sligthly edited full-version of the day-long program ( 8-10 hours)
>>>> >> will be distributed by Cold Fusion Technology. Also, a shorter 
>>>> version
>>>> >> summary (less than two hours) will be be prepared by Mallove, 
>>>> working
>>>> >> with a video production corporation in Manchester, NH. Due to 
>>>> schedule
>>>> >> overload, it may be another 4 weeks before the tapes are available..
>>>> >> Every effort will be made to accelerate the process. A transcribed
>>>> >> version of some of the talks is also being planned by Cold Fusion
>>>> >> Technology.
>>>> >> This is only the "tip of the iceberg" of the incredible events 
>>>> at MIT
>>>> >> Cold Fusion Day. In retrospect, this was an extremely historic
>>>> >> meeting. It was the first time that present and imminent
>>>> >> commercial-level power production from cold fusion/free energy was
>>>> >> discussed in a completely scientific manner at a major 
>>>> university. The
>>>> >> message was apparently very well received. Mallove received numerous
>>>> >> compliments on the decorum and solidity of the sessions.
>>>> >> The former editors of "Cold Fusion" Magazine have joined forces and
>>>> >> put out an interim "Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology" (CFNET) 
>>>> Update,
>>>> >> a 36 page compendium -- mostly on cold fusion. This was distributed
>>>> >> free of charge to attendees at the MIT IAP meeting. Others wanting
>>>> >> this document should send a nominal $5.00 to Cold Fusion 
>>>> Technology to
>>>> >> obtain a copy for themselves:
>>>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816 USA
>>>> >> Fax: 603-224-5975, Phone: 603-228-4516
>>>> >> This CFNET Update is a precursor to the continuation of a 
>>>> **reliable**
>>>> >> Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology magazine (title yet to be
>>>> >> finalized).
>>>> >> ****A recent posting by Victor Lapuszynski of "Cold Fusion" at WGI
>>>> >> contained an egregious error: Piantelli has NOT seen "50 *MeV*
>>>> >> gammas"! He has observed 50 KeV gammas, and will be publishing a 
>>>> paper
>>>> >> soon. And so there is absolutely NO CONFUSION here: There is no 
>>>> longer
>>>> >> any connection whatsoever between Wayne Green's "Cold Fusion"
>>>> >> newsletter and Cold Fusion Technology in Concord, New Hampshire. An
>>>> >> indication of the "quality" of the present editorial direction at
>>>> >> "Cold Fusion" at WGI: Mr. Lapuszynski left the sessions after 
>>>> repeated
>>>> >> announcements that two extremely important presentations on
>>>> >> experiments were to be made.]****
>>>> >> National Public Radio aired a one-hour cold fusion program (1/20/95)
>>>> >> the day before the MIT IAP program, as part of the Ira Flatow 
>>>> "Science
>>>> >> Friday" show. Featued for the "pro" side were Dr. Edmund Storms,
>>>> >> formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Dr. Eugene Mallove of
>>>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, who gave a brief overview of what the next
>>>> >> day's MIT Cold Fusion program would be about. Also on air were two
>>>> >> members of the "Flat Earth Society" -- Gary Taubes, author of "Bad
>>>> >> Science: The Short Life and Weird Times of Cold Fusion" and 
>>>> Professor
>>>> >> David Goodstein of Caltech, neither of whom obviously knew what they
>>>> >> were talking about in the matter of cold fusion. Neither have been
>>>> >> seen at any cold fusion conferences in recent years, but that 
>>>> did not
>>>> >> stop them from calling cold fusion research "lousy science." Both
>>>> >> managed to record themselves for posterity as the pontificating,
>>>> >> ignorant naysayers that they are -- at this, the 11th hour and 59th
>>>> >> minute of the Fossil Fuel Era, at the dawn of the New Energy Age. A
>>>> >> copy of this tape can be obtained from National Public Radio in
>>>> >> Washington.
>>>> >> Sincerely, Eugene F. Mallove, Sc.D., Cold Fusion Technology,
>>>> >> P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, Fax: 603-224-5975,
>>>> >> Phone: 603-228-4516
>>>> >> >> Good stuff, no?      Bert
>>>> >> 
>>>> =============================================================================== 
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
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