Knowledge of the Ancients, Sacred Geometry
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Norman Wootan
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On 2/18/2019 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: > > https://youtu.be/zoMk0estzXc The TIMDIVIC as discussed on the old KeelyNet BBS was a magnet runner track device that used the Orthagonal Magnet flux interaction that mimiced the Sacred Geometry Theory of the Vesica Pieces as shown in the video. Yes, the device was a rip off of the Searle magnet roller System. The dialog of the development of this system is hundreds of pages of dialog from the 1995 BBS of which I captured. > > See: =============================================================================== > > Message 10870 DATE/TIME: 01/24/95 00:22 > >From : NORMAN COMPARINI > To : ALL > Subject: TMIDEVIC > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hello, all: > Regarding the system described in this file, my own crude experiments > show that the system works to the degree that it will accelerate the > runner from zero velocity ( and no input force ) over several ramps ( > POSITIVE change in potential energy, PE ) via magnetic rails. > The key to this system's motion seems to be the use of attract forces > of the magnet to "pull" where needed, but then the earth's gravity to > break free from the magnet to "reset " the system subset. It must > break free or it will oscillate between the magnetic poles and reach > equillibrium. The sytem in this file uses a ramp to point the gravity > vector in the proper direction. > .. > Momentuum also plays a role in getting the "use " of the > gravitational force....hard to explain without sckketches..... > .. > I would like to know if anyone else has toyed with this design, as it > does not seem overly complex, and I feel that I am most likely > overlooking a subtlty ety that .......It > is interesting how the runner, being orthogonal to the two rails, is > able to sustain linear motion, and the goeometry cancels the torques > generated by two bar magnets out of parallel..... > .. > Help anyone? > .. > norm ( no, the other one ) > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 10916 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:13 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: (R) Timedevice > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Norm! Well, I built one tonite and it does exactly as described...a > cleaner construction with a guided pathway will make it run more better > and I think the alternately opposed tracks would work as > described...will clean it up some and try the alternate track thingy > for the next meeting....interesting principle, though a bit ragged in > the initial form...>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > > Message 10917 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:17 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN COMPARINI > Subject: TMIDEVIC Works > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Norm! Well, I did what you did and whupped one of those TMIDEVIC > things together tonight...it works just as described, most interesting > and I see why he needs the decline right after the top of the magnets > are reached...No doubt with a bit more refined construction such as a > smoother roller setup and a guided pathway, this dog'll hunt! > However, from what I can see of how the thing operates I think the > hamster cage apparatus won't work as first thought....but it leads to > some interesting speculations....I will let you know anything else that > comes of it designwise....>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > > Message 10918 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:20 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: Refer 10917 > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Glenda! Just wanted to let you know that Norman C. and I both have > duplicated the TMIDEVIC that you shared with KeelyNet and it does as > described....very simple, yet intriquing...will let you know what comes > out of it as to alternative designs and that includes Stewart > Harris...thanks for passing it along....>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > Message 10930 DATE/TIME: 01/26/95 05:38 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > To : NORMAN COMPARINI > Subject: (R) Magnet drive > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Norm! As to getting power out of it, I have not even considered > that aspect because the thing has not proven unity, itself...if that > circular or U track allows it to run around powered exclusively from > the magnetic repulsion, then maybe a different geometry might be worth > trying....I agree with you....something I noticed on mine...the more > magnets I added to the sideways stack, the less overall force it > had....20 magnets per side seems to give about the greatest thrust > using a 10 magnet roller...that is an odd phenomenon that I don't > understand at this point...any ideas on why the force would seem to > weaken?? All I can think of is the longer magnet causes the field > lines to be more separated and thus weaker...>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > > =============================================================================== > > Message 10996 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 09:57 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : ALL > Subject: TMI Plans > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are > the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start. > > The magnets are Radio Shack part number 64-1885, normally 39 cents > each, but on sale now for 15 cents each. It costs $8.89, incl. the > sales tax, to buy the required 50 magnets. You will also need tape, > 48 pennies, and a piece of corrugated cardboard. It takes about > 30 minutes to put it together. You can either use a magnetic compass > or "trial and error" to get the magnets into position. > > Cut a piece of cardboard 8 1/2 inches by 6 1/4 inches. Fold it so > that each "up ramp" is three inches long, and each "down ramp" is > 1 1/4 inches long. Under the peak of each up ramp you will need > support, so tape together two stacks of pennies, six in each stack, > and put a stack under the middle top of each up ramp. > > Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a result > of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them > anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides of > the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you > will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set them > aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the side > stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps". > > If you are using a compass, the magnetic alignment will be: > > second down ramp > > N S second > up > S N ramp > > first down ramp > > N S first > up > S N ramp > > S N runner > > The height of each ramp from the table top will be 9/16 inch, which is > the height of the six penny stack plus the thickness of the cardboard. > If you experiment with this and get better results with your own > methods, please share the information. > As Mr. Rogers might say, "Can you say MONOPOLE?" > =============================================================================== > Message 11003 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED -- > To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > Subject: TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor perform > and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make it into a > continous running motor. "HOT". Everyone will jump right on this one > for it has so many- many applications. When kids drag this little > experiment to school and show it to their science teachers they will > simply go "NUTS". Ha! Ha! Next thing will be a run on Radio Shack > magnets, and their computer was go crazy trying to figure out where > this demand came from for magnets that last week they could not give > away. Well to put it this way they put them on sale for they were > moving too slow.Sounds sort of like we were all buying parts for the > "Lee Trippett" circuit. tHEY PROBABLY NEVER FIGURED OUT THAT DEMAND > CURVE ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM EITHER. Norm > =============================================================================== > > Message 11019 DATE/TIME: 01/29/95 12:41 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: TMI..and thanks! > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Glenda, > > Actually, Stewart Harris and you did the favor for US by sharing > his ideas here...I'd like to know more about stewart's Theory of > Magnetic Instability. It's intriguing because, although the poles > of the magnets are aligned for a net repulsion, Stewart sees some > other definition of the forces at play. His definition works, as > opposed to that of his detractors, who apparently in their frus- > tration and desperation, have chosen to question him, instead of > actually building and analyzing the working device. > > Magnets are holographic and like holograms, maintain their image > memory in tiny molecule-sized fractal pieces. The forces which > create magnets force the substrate to simultaneously expand and > contract, then "freeze" the energy/matter into an imbalance. Mag- > nets are, I believe, in a constant state of energy collapse, which > is why they "attract" materials which have molecular structures which > "resemble" their own. As with any hologram, we see the effect, not > the 3-space reality. > > Stewart has been able to see and comprehend the reality, where science > has, by definition, limited itself to the (measurable) effect...and > it misses the boat. The "instability" part of Stewart's theory would, > I think, bridge the gap for us, if he will be kind enough to share it. > Stewart is a seeker (and sharer) of truth...he has friends here. > =============================================================================== > Message 11044 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 12:36 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : ALL > Subject: All aboard!! > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > The TMIDEVIC can be laid out as a "train track", and the "runner" > can be placed anyplace within that track, and it will move forward. > As it moves, it gains speed. I suspect that with a long enough track > and low enough surface tension, it might attain high velocity. > > The implications of this are enormous for rail transportation, far > superior to the "mag-lev" designs currently being built in Japan and > Germany. While there may still be a need for generators on TMI type > trains, for air conditioning, etc., the actual drive power is zero. > Small electromagnets could be used on the train for acceleration and > braking. > > For the "return trip", just reverse the magnets on the train. So much > more can be done...this is just one example. Converting the magnetic > fields into circular rotation as Stewart Harris did can begin to > eliminate our reliance on fossil fuels. Mass transportation can be > much cheaper than ever thought possible. > > The same principles will allow the electrical power that is needed to > be generated without any type of fuels. Regardless of what is said > today, I suspect that Mr. Harris will be remembered by history. > =============================================================================== > Message 11048 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 14:08 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: TMI Geometry > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Norm, > > Look at the TMIDEVIC again...the round magnets have torus shaped > fields. The 90 degree relationship between the runner and the rails > creates intersections at vesica pisces coordinates, which creates > a vortical energy flow on both ends of the runner, and the energy > increases as the number of intersections increases with the speed > of the runner. This dog can warp. > > Joel > > =============================================================================== > > Message 11077 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:43 > >From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED) > Subject: Rollin', rollin', rollin' down de river > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JOEL MCCLAIN > and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 01/31/95 at 09:50 > -------------------- > Joel, > I'm not going to be able to build one of the roller magnet thingies for > quite some time yet. I've got those little round magnets stuck all > over the inside of the cab of my truck, and my main observation is that > they suck (or maybe don't suck enough?). They are pitifully weak! > I've not seen ads for neodymium magnets in this shape, but I bet they > are made. What would this thing do with neo mags, say about 50 times > more powerful than what you are currently using? Would it lock up, or > would it go ballistic? If you are getting positive results with these > wimpy magnets, it might be very worth while to test with doughnut neos. > I volunteer $25.00 toward purchase of these neos, if a source can be > found. >> Bert > =============================================================================== > essage 11083 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 11:18 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- > To : BERT POOL > Subject: TMI Geometry > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Bert, > > I'd suggest using the cheap magnets at first, until you decide how > you want to construct your project. Magnetism is secondary to > geometry, and it is a matter of scale, not of effect. The effect > is the same. Even the weak magnets will accelerate uphill and > break the attraction at the top. PHI is the key, and it is constant > regardless of the (relative) strength of the magnets. > > It is in the overlap of the fields where vesica pisces forms, and this > is the PHI coordinate, where the same etheric energy which causes > particle spin will rotate the magnets. TMI applies sacred geometry > in a way which utilizes etheric energy and that is why it violates > the "known" laws of physics. TMI also shows us how to end our need > for fossil and nuclear fuels. > > Joel > ====================================================================== > Message 11084 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 12:08 > >From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- > To : JOEL MCCLAIN > Subject: Rollin' > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Joel, > Does the device accelerate the entire length of the track? > If so, is the acceleration linear or exponential? > I have a circuit that should allow us to measure the velocity at any > desired point. If the acceleration is exponential, then a relatively > short track should allow acceleration of this device to absolutely > incredible speeds. If acceleration is linear, then a relatively short > track should allow acceleration to "only" incredible speeds. I know > the device as shown in the plans uses ramps. Will the mobile part > accelerate on a track with no ramps? If so, the acceleration should be > higher on a flat track v.s. a ramped track. Comments? > Bert > =============================================================================== > > Message 11003 > > DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49 > > From : NORMAN WOOTAN > > To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > > Subject: TMIDEVIC > > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > > Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor > > perform and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make > > it into a continuous running motor. "HOT". > > [...] > > ******************************** I offer: > > Actually, I had heard that Radio Shack was going to discontinue this > line of magnets. But they are available from most magnet > manufacturers, and in greater variations of strengths. I have had > models which constantly lift a runner which weighs about a pound. > > As for the kids and schools and science teachers, this TMI device > has already won a Clark County Science Fair for a 14-year-old boy, > and he almost won the State prize but got a bit uppity with the > judges and ended up second. Plus, he got uppity because the judges > neither understood what it was nor believed it was not a sham. > > [...] > > Thanks again for your assistance. It seems my PMM devices will > become realities in the very near future. I don't know what the > science world will do. They forecast doom if I am right, yet I am > certain they will exert their outer limits of flexibility and come > to some consensus acceptable to all. I hope so. I certainly never > meant any harm to scientists or science; and I find it ridiculous > for anyone to believe I, one person, could do any harm. > > Best Regards, > Stewart Harris > > Internet:[email protected] > Internet:[email protected] > Las Vegas - Home of High Rollers, Aliens and the Good Life > and Continuous Motion!! > ... All things are difficult before they are easy. > * TLX v4.00 * > --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#31) > * Origin: Vegas PlayGround BBS * LV, NV * 24 Nodes * (1:209/276) > > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 11103 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:02 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: Message for Bill Teague > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Bill, > > Life is based upon only two number sequences: binary and PHI, or > Fibronacci. Every bone in every vertebrate has a PHI relationship > with a connecting bone. All of the dimensions of butterfly body > size, wing width to height, etc., are PHI. The nautilus shell is > a perfect Fibronacci, starting with PHI before it is even over one. > Sunflower spirals are always 3 or 5 in one direction with 8 or 13 > in the other direction, corresponding with Fibronacci. The spiral > galaxy is a Fibronacci spiral. Plants grow blossoms according to > the Fibronacci series. > > Cellular mitosis is binary. Octave progressions are binary, although > note progressions are in PHI intervals within the octaves. The human > spine is tuned with PHI ratios in adjacent discs and octave intervals > in the spacing. The upper and lower body halves are a PHI ratio. > Standing with arms extended to the side is a PHI rectangle, within > 1/10000 of an inch for an average group of people. It takes 46 cell > divisions in binary sequence to replace all of the cells in the body, > and 46 is also the number of our chromosomes. > > It takes 13 sperm working in unison before one is able to enter to > fertilize the egg. The sperm loses its tail, and grows to the exact > size of the egg, and intersects with it at exactly vesica pisces, > or where its outer edge touches the center of the egg. This is the > zero point, and from here life begins. > > These examples are in all of nature. The Greeks used them in all of > their art, because they understood the geometry. The Romans didn't > have a clue, which is why Greek art is very beautiful while Roman art > of the same era is rather ugly. Most people, if they ever study PHI > in geometry are never taught how this is used outside of geometry. > It needs to be taught in music, and music needs to be taught in all > science courses, or they miss the boat. Hope this helps! > > Joel > =============================================================================== > Mick, do you understand why I said you need a crash course in Sacred Geometry?? > > > Message 11104 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:03 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : BERT POOL > Subject: Riiiver > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Bert, > > It's hard to describe without a picture of the power waveform super- > imposed over the distance waveform. The power leads the movement > like a square wave and a sine wave starting at the same point, be- > cause the power zero point occurs low in the distance curve, so the > peak pull differential becomes less as the roller gets higher. The > roller is starting to slow down before reaching the top of the > incline. > > However, the roller has enough inertia to pass the attractions at > the top of the incline, and start down the ramp. The power wave- > form stays above the zero point, and the peaks "fill in" if you > draw overlapping circles which encompass the overlapping waves. > > The overlaps are the vesica pisces coordinates, and they are where > the logarithmic spirals can be seen, which are the zero points as > far as power curve peaks. Now, since the TMI starts out going up- > hill, it seems reasonable that it should run like a bunny on a flat > track, and it does, and just keeps going faster. BTW, on the ramp > version, if the "rail" magnets are on the table instead of on the > ramp, the runner is faster because the net attraction at the top of > the incline is offset by the angular displacement of the fields. > > Clear as mud, right? > > Joel > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net > that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I > work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch > up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and > share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of > calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted > to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his > home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of > our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was > that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me > realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little > comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The > hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer > and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on > the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we > became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to > post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just > calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the > conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel > and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry" > so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI > device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making > the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the > process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk. > Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we > worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked > and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran > several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the > relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic > runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner > has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust > to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned > was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well > what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the > Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the > intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent > that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken > segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a > continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic > vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces > vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put > it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will have > created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non > indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing > properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of > excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is that > if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that > John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply > accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away > leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks > for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun > with this one. Norm > =============================================================================== > > Message 11128 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 20:34 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- > To : BERT POOL > Subject: (R) Rollin' > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Bert, et al! Stewart says the reason he calls it TOMI (Theory Of > Magnetic Instability) is because something odd happens when you join > individual magnets as opposed to one long magnet....there seem to be > little circles of influence where the fields don't blend totally and > these act as stairsteps of alternate repulsion/attraction....he says > you can try to use a long bar or cylinder magnet and it won't work. > He is definitely onto something with the observation....spoke with him > Sunday and have put him in contact with a friend who owns a > manufacturing and distribution company, both are very excited and > coming up with various doo-dads to market as novelties and > toys....really glad to see something is happening for Stewart, but it > is still young at this point as they are new to each other....something > about this reminds me of the barium 'flutter' as in the Sweet device > and also the Gary magnetic motor....>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > Message 11146 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 00:17 > >From : STEVE THATCHER -- RECEIVED -- > To : JOEL MCCLAIN > Subject: (R) MRA and other stuff > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > I certainly want to put my efforts in the best possible direction. I > have read all the messages concerning the TMI device and haven't put > together a mental model that I can build yet. It does sound simple > though. The thoughts I have been having regarding magnetism, electron > flow, photons, and emf all lump them in a similar category. Does anyone > therize that a photon stream carries a perpendicular magentic field > with it for example. I haven't studied up on the new photon theories > yet, but this one just kind of popped up as a question in my mind. Has > anyone produced a simple diagram for the tmi device? Maybe something > more concrete then message discussions will prompt me to order some > parts from Edmunds. Best regards, Steve Thatcher > =============================================================================== > Message 11149 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 01:00 > >From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Norm, you said: > >what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the > >Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the > >intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent > >that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken > >segments in the track as per the original plans. > > Could you elaborate on what you mean by "..Phi rate in relation to the > fixed magnetic track.."? This sounds very interesting. > > THX, > -Gerald > =============================================================================== > Message 11158 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 07:20 > >From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED -- > To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Jerry, > Thanks for the upgrade. I've been busy reading the past messages. > But I did take time to build a TMI device and it really works. Now I > need to search my current download for thoughts on the "Flapper" or the > "Tireless Magnetic Rodent". I couldn't believe how the roller took > off! Thanks to Joel for his instructions and especially for the tip for > about the Radio Shack part number. Bye, Paul. > =============================================================================== > > Message 11169 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 10:50 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: Miracle of Flight in Nature > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Glenda: I read with great interest the message from Billy Teague where > he mentioned the flight of Hummingbirds bees and all of the other > Natural Aeronaughts. Since Joel and I are well into our education on > the "Sacred Geometry" then the following becomes perfectly obvious to > the "informed. Back some time ago there was a very good segment run on > PBS television (Nature or some other organization) about flight in > nature. When they showed a high speed photo sequence of a hummingbird > at a hover the researchers traced the wing tip paths and guess what > this trace drew? You are on the right track for now I can relate this > tracing directly to the VESICA PIECES that are nestred and intersected > exactly the same way that your little TMI device magnetic vortices > intersect to establish (running through the center of the vesica pieces > a resulting thrust vector which causes the lift. The energy is in the > form of resonant standing waves created by the wing beats or strokes > and are actually acoustic in fact. When you look carefully at the > intersecting wave forms they do not intersect straight on but are > actually closer to a 90 degree melding which results in the thrust > vector being established. When I went through the civilian and > military flight schools we mathmatically proved that insects such as > the hugh Japanese beatles and large bumblebees could not possibly fly > for the wing loading would be incredible and simply could not be done. > Well "mother nature" gave these little creatures the secret of the > "SCARED GEOMETRY" to achieve what our physics say is impossible. Can > you say there is a lot of power in resonant geometry? You bet and the > more we learn about it the more we will explain about the "NATURE" all > around us. There you have it, the secret of flight, just wish we had > the knowledge to apply it to our transportation problems. Maybe there > is something behind Jerry's men in silve suits seen flying around > useing some sort of acoustic resonant fields. more later. Norm > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 11171 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 14:37 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- > To : BERT POOL > Subject: Dances With Cows > Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" > > Howdy Bert, > > As the roller begins to move, it intersects more magnetic flux waves > per unit of time, which increases force per unit of distance, which > increases speed, which cause it to intersect more magnetic flux waves, > and so on. That is the advantage over a bar magnet, which has only > one set of distributed flux lines. Each of the little bagel magnets > (too hard to be donuts) has its own torus field. > > As to whether to use thick or thin magnets, and where to use them, > if the above paragraph is accurate, then thicker magnets would be > similar to bar magnets and tend to slow it down. I've found that > adding pennies between the magnets has the opposite effect, so that > thinner magnets with equal gauss and more spacing might be best. > You might even put springs in between the magnets at the start of > the track to give it a "slingshot" effect. > > The Radio Shack magnets have a 4.5:1 ratio of width to diameter, so > at the "giddy-up", you already have a lot of torque. A lot of thin > magnets would overcome inertia from startup, where spaced thick mag- > nets would govern speed. > =============================================================================== > Message 11173 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 17:12 > >From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- > To : JOEL MCCLAIN > Subject: (R) Dances With Cows > Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" > > Joel, > > If the TMI device can be extended into a cyclic device, i.e., a roller > on a continuous track, the obvious result would be a free energy > device. If it can be done using permanent magnets, then it can be done > using electromagnets. A permanent magnet design would be super-simple; > only one moving part, no adjustments, etc., which is a good thing so far > as reliability goes. But if you use electromagnets, you gain > magnitudes of order more control over the operating conditions. If you > build a circular track device, and start changing the spacing between > the magnets, then you will by definition change the diameter of the > loop, which means large mechanical changes, which is a pain. If you > can do the equivalent thing by turning a potentiometer, life is much > easier. I expect a simple machine to use perm. magnets, and a machine > which can be regulated will use electromagnets in at least the track. > Actually, as I think about it, if you were to replace the roller magnet > assembly with a coil/armature, as it passes the stationary magnets it > becomes an electromagnet.....hmmmm, might work, yes? > >> bert > =============================================================================== > Message 11196 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 07:58 > >From : PAUL VISINGER > To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) > Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Jerry. I'v been having great fun playing with my TMI device. When > the roller took off for the first time I was amazed and still am for > that matter. It required no finger push, in fact, I had to hold on to > it to get it into the proper position. I thought, "This must of been > what John Searle originally played with." So, I want to know more. > Where can I find out about "vesica pieces" -- I've seen it mentioned in > quite a few messages. Just point me in the right direction, specific > references would be much appreciated. Bye, Paul. > P.S. I've built several different configurations but now I want to go > circular! > =============================================================================== > > Message 11197 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 08:07 > >From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: TMIdevice > Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" > > Hi Norm. If you've already answered this question I'll get it from the > downloaded messages or if you're too busy I'll understand that too. > I've built several different versions of the TMIdevice. The version > Joel described, a flat one and a ramped one with the runners flat and > now I want to build a circular one. In message 11108 you mentioned > that you, "Increased the spin rate of the roller or runner by the Phi > rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the > intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied..." How did > you increase the spin rate. What is the Phi rate in relation to the > fixed magnetic track. What and where are the intersecting vesica > pieces vortex patterns? Any help would be appreciated. I really like > your work on the MRA. Thanks. Bye, Paul. > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 11200 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 09:08 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : PAUL VISINGER > Subject: TMI Device > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Paul: To answer your question which was asked by Gerald O'here goes. > If you roll the runner magnet assembly along a track your have a fixed > rate of helix magnetic flux interfaces that occur at 90 degree angles > between the fixed track and the rotating runner. If you mount the > runner or roller on a stainless steel shaft and mount a pinnion gear at > the inboard end or pivot end off the shaft running on a ring gear that > is a greater number of teath by the Phi ratio them as the moving arm > proceeds forward a spin rate of + Phi will be imparted on the spinning > roller and you will have eliminated the friction contact with the > track. Just visualize the differential gears in the rear-end of your > car for it has a ring gear and pinnion in a hypoid gear set which > allows a drive shaft RPM which is greater than the axle RPM by the gear > ratio. All I am doing is turning this arrangement around and letting > the pinion gear turn faster that the fixed ring gear. The central > pivot shaft of the whole unit has a DC generator attached to provide > the necessary loading to prevent the Searle Effect to progress to the > point of "lift Off". Believe me it will happen for when the rate of > intersecting magnetic flux lines of i > intersecting "vesica pieces" (will explain) are increasing to the > point that you have a plasma folding back on itself then you will start > seeing a corona or pink glow which happens when this beast achieves > it's "N" critical rotational speed. Searle claimed 3000 RPM was the > "N" crit on his disk but I'm sure it is a radius and perifial velocity > relationship somehow. Joel and I have tested the increased spin rate > and it does allow for a greater number of flux line intersections which > increases the torque and acceleration of the unit. We have resolved > the entire unit so that you do not have to have the broken segments it > the fixed magnet unit which we have formed into a contiuous circle with > only one outer fixed magnet with the rollers suspended on arms from a > central pivot point 6 each in number. Joel found that by spacing the > magnets apart with copper pennies the field effect was enhanced in the > fixed magnet unit. Basically it increases the little toroid flux lines > for there is a little leakage of flux trying to fold back in at each > little magnet interface (N-S) or junction. This becomes amplified when > you close the loop by making a continous circle of the little > "baggles", darnI like Joel's description of these little critters. You > really need to read all you can on the "Sacred Geometry" to fully > understand about the energies that are focused within the vesica > pieces. Joel is going back and modifying the Phi and Res file for we > have learned a vast amount of additional knowledge since this file was > created. Norm > =============================================================================== > > Message 11206 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 14:08 > >From : BERT POOL > To : ALL > Subject: TMI or TOMI > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Well, I went with Norm over to Joel McClain's house last night, and I > was thoroughly instructed in the proper construction and operation of > the TMI magnetic propulsion device by Jake - a MOST astute five year > old! > > The device does exactly what everyone says it will do. The roller > wants to roll like hell. It will roll like hell with ONE row of > magnets, instead of two. If you extend the length of the magnets, and > I did extend it to about 18 inches long, it rolls the whole length, and > evidences NO intent to slow down or stop. If I had a couple of rows of > magnets that went from here in Dallas to California, I have no doubt > that little sucker would pull itself all the way to Gerald O's house! > I have some discomfort about a CIRCULAR track, unless it is large in > diameter, because there is a possibility that placing the magnets at > the required small angle to form a torus may affect the shape of the > interacting fields enough between the adjacent magnets to stop it from > working. But Norm's prototype will very likely work. I'm not sure > the PHI ratio gearing will improve performance, but even without the > additional rotational speed derived from the planetary gear, it should > still run. > > I've seen some neat things over the years, but nothing comes close to > this so far as simplicity and the fact that it moves! > > It moves! ........ it moves up hill. It damn near leaps in the air! > > It is going to be most interesting to see how far we take this thing. > > Bert > =============================================================================== > > Message 11227 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 23:58 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: Dances with PHI > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Norm, > > Got my order from Am. Sci. & Surplus today...they actually do sell > things other than coffee mugs. Included was the "rattleback", or > "space pet", the ellipsoid that only spins CCW. If you spin it CW, > it rattles back and forth, stops spinning CW and spins CCW. I Know > that you aren't surprised that the ratio of width to height of this > device is PHI. Interesting how this was used in the geometry of > Noah's Ark. Also, if you add the width and height together and mul- > tiply them by Phi, then double the product, you get the exact length, > so once again it is the Fibronacci series (PHI) and the binary > series, which is the times two. Anybody could build an Ark just > by knowing the PHI ratio, and have a perfectly rock-less boat. > For some reason, the Celts used the exact same ellipsoidal pattern > on their knife and axe blades, but then they were primitives. > > Other stuff...the angles of the Great Pyramid are approx. 52 and 38 > degrees, as you know. The cosine of 52 and the sine of 38 (actually > the REAL measurements, not these approximations), are both 0.618, > the inverse of PHI. > > Moray King and Dave Faust sent a fax tonight, with a suggestion for > using a third coil around the MRA, and feeding the MRA in that manner > as opposed to directly connecting into the primary. They tried to > upload the info as a file but weren't able to...durn 'puters. > > Also, got a few radiac detectors...no particular reason, except they > were real cheap, so if you want one, it's yours. BTW did you know > that the half-life of U238 is 4.5 Billion years? Picked up that bit > of comforting info in the Pocket Ref book from A.S.&S. > > C'ya, > Joel > =============================================================================== > > Message 11229 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:31 > >From : BILL BEATY > To : ALL > Subject: Bad Griggs News!!! > Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega" > > All the internet traffic has made a local Seattle experimenter > approach me with some unsettling news about Griggs. This guy > says that Griggs was involved with Aquatech, the company which > had the Schaffer patent, that Griggs was sent by Aquatech to > install their products all over the country, that Griggs split > off with hostility to start his own company, and that Griggs > is not an inventor, but just took advantage of systems he was > working with already. This guy is Mike Huffman,[email protected]. > He has just entered a patent for his own Schaffer-based device, > which he has done mainly to keep it from being taken over by > others. He is being non-secretive, and is spreading info packets > around on his device so that others can duplicate it. > . > His device is a "cake" of plexi layers having routed channels in > the form of a slight spiral, which is then spun in a plastic > close-fitting chamber. He has just begun testing, and has not > had the equipment together yet to measure overunity. THe device > is a little 8" box connected to a 1/3 HP pump motor, and it boils > water in a couple of minutes. > . > Some good news: he says that Schaffer had a "pull start" > self-sustaining device working at one time, but Schaffer pulled > the old secrecy act, never told anyone how it works, and died > with the secret. > . > I told him the story of the Texas inventor with the self-acting > vegetable oil spiral turbine. He then told me the Schaffer story, > and wondered why these people always take it to the grave rather > than just let loose. He applauds the MRA efforts. I haven't > convinced him to call Keelynet yet, but will soon. > > cc: Norman Wootan > > =============================================================================== > > > Message 11231 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:58 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : PAUL VISINGER > Subject: Your MSG # 11198 > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Paul, > and you're welcome! > > Glad the info was helpful, and it's really great to see lots of > people looking into Stewart Harris' TMI device. It's truly excellent. > > I was most fortunate that Norm got hold of some fine material on > the 'sacred geometry', and is kindly sharing it with me. Actually, > it was Peter Tompkins' book, "Secrets of the Great Pyramid" that > turned me on to PHI, and the new material goes right into the heart > of anti-g, ZPE, etc., and it is all PHI related, as is all of nature. > > The term "vesica pices" is what Keely called the "neutral center", it > just defines it geometrically. The CBS eye is a vesica pices. When > you see it as a PHI proportion, you can connect with the concept in > a circuit where the fields overlap, or "breathe" into each other at > their centers. We can see this happening in the torus fields of the > circular magnets, and can therefore calculate optimum distance and > spin ratios using PHI. That's the 'secret' to the Schauberger > UFO design...three circles in octave proportion intersecting at > each other's neutral center...Fibronacci and binary. > > >From a less 'sacred' perspective, the TMI also has a 4.5:1 torque > ratio, based upon the 1/4" width and 1 1/8" height at 90 degrees > relative to each other in the TMI. The easiest thing for the roller > to do is to roll, and as it does, it intersects more fields per unit > of time, so it increases in speed at an increasing rate. It can only > go so fast before it intersects with half of the magnets on a round > track, and when this goes over 180 degrees, it should go airborne. > That's what happened, as you know, with the Searl generator. > > Glad you're actively researching...hit 'em hard. > > Joel > =============================================================================== > Message 11234 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 10:12 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : ALL > Subject: Save the Greys > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > For those who read messages # 11227 and 11231, where Noah's Ark and > UFOs are equated in terms of their use of the constant phi (í), you > may be wondering how this could be. Modern (at least Western) thought > does not provide the same "maet" concept as was used by the Egyptians > and others. The maet is a term which means that one set of principles > is at work in all things, and that a society can base its direction > and ideals on these universal constants. > > Because í is how nature chose to "work", anything that is going to > work within nature should emulate the í proportion to avoid working > against nature. That is why all living things use this ratio, and > why successful free energy devices use resonance. As seen in the > file, PHI&RES.ASC, harmony in vibrations is determined by the root > derivatives of í times frequency. Harmonies create resonance, and > overlapping resonances, as Keely demonstrated, cross the zero point. > > Walter Russell and others have been able to intuit the relationship, > but had they known the pervasiveness of í and used it knowingly, we > can only imagine how much further they could have gone. We have that > opportunity. It's only math, and really, it's very simple...da Vinci > and others understood it in our own recorded history. The problem > for some is that when you follow the natural progressions, it explains > too much...it can free mankind in ways that we are only beginning to > realize, as with the Incunabula and other forms of consciousness > elevating. These things are real, and can be accomplished naturally. > > I believe that we are entering the dawn of a whole new era, and that > whether we are ready or not, we will soon be entering a higher plane > of existance, including unity consciousness. It is a natural stage > in the evolution of the universe, and by understanding the constants > of the universe, we can simply walk into the light of that new day. > It is our birthright, denied to us by those who know the maet, but > who use it to "rule" with. As with the dinosaurs who once "ruled" > the earth with fear, these folks are facing extinction. > > I believe that ZPE has not been suppressed as much for the obvious > reason, as for the reason that understanding it of necessity leads > to the understanding of all else. That is why sharing this infor- > mation is so very important now. We can do anything that any machine > can do, and we give up our innate ability every time we use one. > Technology is a trap...the greys use machines as UFOs, and they are > now dieing out all over the universe. We can use our own energies > to create higher dimensional "UFOs", called merkabas, and free our- > selves of all need. We are ready now, and that is why the awareness > is being given. We have been, almost literally, asleep, through no > fault of our own. We are awakening now, and it's going to be a good > day. > =============================================================================== > > Message 11237 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 11:13 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : ALL > Subject: TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Well now that Joel and I convinced Bert that the effect of the Syewart > Harris TMI is real and has potential of running itself we are off and > running. Last night I worked out enough of the geometry of a circular > device to determine that I need a total of 800 magnets to finalize my > design of a unit with an outside diameter of 23 inches with 6 rotating > spokes carrying the runner or rollers. Nothing ventured nothing gained > as we say. If it does not work we (Bert, Joel and I) will have a lot of > little novelity toys around to play with <g>. Is there any other use > for these "crummey" little magnets? Keep the faith for we know there > is a way to make this into a workable device. We all have our own > ideas so we have to put them into hardware form to test out the theory. > It looks good on paper but the proof is in a working device. Right > Jerry?? I still want to see Jerry's Hamster Cage TMI work with the > little magnetic rodent continously rolling along in it like ferris > wheel ride except the magnetic rodent stays at the bottom of the > spinning cage. See Jerry, Joel and I have a secret camera hidden in you > living room. Ha! Ha! Just kidding. Norm PS: well it is off to the > Radio Shacks to clean out the remaining stock. Let's see, I have 460 > magnets now so I only have to find 340 more to complete this project. > =============================================================================== > essage 11239 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 13:06 > >From : JOEL MCCLAIN > To : ALL > Subject: The Ark, the laser and the UFO > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Just one other note for now on the "rattleback" or í designed device > which is the geometry of Noah's Ark. The longitudinal axis blocks > laser light by inverting the phase and cancelling it. In other words > laser light will not pass through it on the double í dimension. I've > tried it, and you can see the cancellation of energy occurring. > > A boat which is built on the same ratios does not rock in the water. > This has been tested empirically by a group of archaeologists who > built a small "ark" and found that it would ride over waves without > any feeling of motion. The end-to-end energy is cancelled just as > the laser light is cancelled. > > Put two rattlebacks together and you also have the shape of a > "classic" UFO. > > Joel > =============================================================================== > > Message 11243 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:37 > >From : GLENDA STOCKS > To : ALL > Subject: light universe 1/3 > Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" > > > 27 Jan 95 01:24:12 > By: Ian Wilson > To: All > Re: Universal Vision > --------------------------------------------------------- > > The Geometry of Light into Matter > > The model is a representation of a vision that I had where I saw > sub-particles of matter as units of consciousness. The following is > an overview how the order of this consciousness relates to itself > and combines to create physical matter and the laws of cause and > effect. > > The area of thought that this vision contained was relationships in > numeric unity and geometric form. I am still researching several > outlets to this form and attempting to articulate as much as I can > the vision as it creates itself in to logic and unity. > > Keep in mind that this model is a representation and it's a small > tool to observe relationships in energy and thought as well as it's > relationship to matter. The nature of this is from the science of > spirit into the logic of matter so you may find some of the concepts > not adhering to linear time rather (to) events happening in infinite > timeless expressiveness. > > A single group or sub-particle is a separated unit from a whole. > This whole is represented by infinite timeless existance and ties > into an order of thought that addresses a universal consciousness > that is self- actualising and expressively harmonious. Light and > pure thought was the intended model as a representation of this > universal infinitum. And all aspects of this universe was divided up > into an infinite number of parts. When these parts descend into > matter, they transform from light [energy] into physical matter. > >From there laws are establised creating the structure and physics > that we form in our science. > > For what ever reasons, the model for the singular personafied unit > of an infinite order was represented by this following model : > > > 12 This model has 12 sides. > 11ÚÄÄÄÄ¿1 We add 12 by it's numbers to get 3 > 10 ³ ³ 2 > ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ eg. 12 : 1 + 2 = 3 > 9³ ³ 3 > ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÙ We do this to fit it into a feild of > 8 ³ ³ 4 unity > 7ÀÄÄÄÄÙ5 > 6 > > This singular unit is a part of a greater body of energy. In it's > material state, it combines with other particles forming > relationships and bonds. The bonds were represented by a loving, > harmonious recognition of self and other parts of self. Since this > energy is light and light has consciousness this unit is self-aware. > The relationship was called a family and from this family we have a > molecular order. > > The particles then bond in harmonious order to form larger matter > based relationship. Keeping in mind that all matter comes from a > universal field of light energy that has altered it's frequency into > lower vibrations to form matter. But in it's pure state, it is the > same: Light. We can take a look at Einsteins theory of relativity > 2 > where E=MC This formula represents the relationship of matter and > light as energy. > > And all this light has consciousness. This key (that) is lacking in > our science is that energy is consciousness and aware that it > exists. That it is self aware. And self is what this model is > representing. > > When light in matter unifies, it forms a relationsip with other > particles according to laws of relationships between matter and > light. This becomes a greater whole and we'll form how this order > creates a larger sub-particle. > > We'll look at four groups of consciousness forming a single particle > of matter in a relationship. That particle has a unified number and > it has a relationship; we look at 4 units. > > > > ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ 4 units X 12 sides = 48 > ³ ³ we add 48 together to unify the number > ÚÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ > ³ ³ ³ 48 : 4 + 8 = 12 > ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄ´ > ³ ³ ³ ³ And we have 12, which in turn adds to 3. > ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ > ³ ³ ³ ³ > ÃÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÙ > ³ ³ ³ > ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÙ > ³ ³ > ÀÄÄÄÄÙ > > What physical matter reality represents is light at a denser > vibrational state. Since light is consciousness, it was by thought > that the light had lowered itself in it's vibration into sub > particles. And it was this light in it's thoughts that formed > frequency, matter and fields of energy et al; the laws we strive to > understand. > > The order comes from attraction and replusion. Since light in a > matter state creates a resonance of vibration it has a magnetic > order. Electro-magnetic fields form at various frequencies and this > identifying order creates the grounds on which matter collects into > it's schools of particles and families. > > =============================================================================== > > Message 11244 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:40 > >From : GLENDA STOCKS > To : ALL > Subject: light universe 2/3 > Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" > > > The Universe as a Whole. > > When addressing any universal concepts we scientifically see the > universe in terms of light, energy and matter. Energy being neither > created nor destroyed, just transformed into one stage or another, > but it is all energy, and the more groups of energy unified in one > frequency or pattern the more intense and focused the energy > becomes. > > The universe is intelligent and energy has intelligence. Our > thoughts are comprised of electrical charges passing through neural > transmitters in the synapse. This unified balance of patterned > energy and it's applications give us intelligence, but intelligence > is still energy. > > The reason we think on a human level is because we have a specific > frequency of thought energy and it's relationship in it's creative > design gives the framework for our consciousness and directs or > controls this intelligence for the purpose of this linear human > experience. This is commonly noted by brain wave patterns alpha, > beta, theta, and delta. Controlled frequencies of neural energy > (Intelligence). > > We are focused particles of energy, matter and light formed in a > very specific design to comprise the experience we are. And it is > now very important to start to address thought and it's influence on > itself. Energy reacts to thought. But we are getting into a series > of concepts that humanly has been denied or submersed by the > inability of our thinkers to grasp that their thoughts are an energy > and are influencing creatively the effects of thought on light as > electromagnetic brainwave patterns. > > Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And thoughts do > create very specific fields of biomagnetic energy in the mind and > this has an effect much like dropping a pebble into a pond. It is an > energy, but it is not felt physically rather by electromagnetic > fields instead of matter fields. > > The universe is connected by both physical bonds and electromagnetic > bonds. Electromagnetic energy is becoming the science of the soul > and this is common with such concepts of an AURA which really is a > biomagnetic field that surrounds the body created by the various > patterns of electrical impusles caused by thoughts. > > When the mind needs the body to preform a task, it sends a signal to > a muscle and this muscle reacts with controlled electrical nervous > responses and thus creates a movement acting upon a denser energy > stored in as fuel for the cells. Still it's different fields of > energy preforming very specific tasks. But it is all energy at > different frequencies. > > This echange creates the biomagnetic aura as energy surges in this > living machine. And it all starts with thought. And thought is what > we will examine in some depth and draw upon some areas of thought, > of applied thought by influencing electromagnetic energy. And this > gets really interesting. > > Back to the Vision and it's examples. > > The vision then began to illustrate a field of pure white light > energy as the sum total of all energy existing in the universe in a > perfect harmonious balanced state of existence. That all parts of > this energy were at the exact same frequency and order of balance as > a body, much like an infinite ocean. > > This field was labled the source, source meaning the source of all > energy and energy being consciousness. So a very intelligent and > self aware field of energy. > > When this field began to apply thought, parts of it's self began to > form to those thoughts and this was illustrated as a change of > frequency and the birth of a new level of energy. This new level of > energy was the same but different and since it's thoughts were on a > different field than the first infinite body, this field was more > focused and represented the first applied thought. > > And in an instant of infinite time, a reaction was formed. Call it > the big bang, or what ever concept of birth, and energy began to > lower in frequency and created personifications as this reaction > caused the entire field of energy to form the structure of the > universe by an order of applied self-seeking energy. > > This reaction created a number of realities, energy systems and > physical matter reality was one of many. Physical matter reality was > the moment when this energy dropped so low in frequency that it > crystallised and became unified at a series of dense levels. > > Since thought is energy and human thought is energy focused at a > very human level, we have to understand that there are many fields > of intelligent energy; all self aware as we are self-aware. We are > by no means the most intelligent force in the universe. And the > application of thought causes energy to react and form around that > thought giving it a dimension to exist in. And depending on the > frequency of that thought, it will manifest. And I mean it WILL > manifest, either as a mental formed image to a chain of events that > gives birth to it in reality. I will go into more depth as I will > lose so many at this point. So I will clarify this so we can > understand the principles of this. > > The vision continued to show that these lower particles as they > dropped in frequency became less aware of the source and more > submersed into darkness. I saw that the darker it became, the closer > it came to the physical matter universe until the universe was much > like the stars in the sky, pin points of energy balanced by a field > of cause and effect. > > =============================================================================== > > Message 11245 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:44 > >From : GLENDA STOCKS > To : ALL > Subject: light universe 3/3 > Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" > > > Why thought as a creative energy? > > It was thought that gave birth to the reaction which created the > universes. Thought was dynamic and since thought is energy, it > created a very specific field of energy. And since that feild was > energy, it also had thought, but a different thought so another > reaction was formed and we have a chain reaction much like what > happens in a nuclear bomb when a chain reaction occurs. > > And in all this reaction there were very simple universal laws that > formed around the relationship of energy and it's self. And we begin > to get into emotion, love, creation and other mechanisms of > communication that generate our reality and all realities that exist > at the different feilds of frequency. > > This now becomes a science of light, and the science of thought. > Reality is energy, and energy is thought. There is a relationship > that we have to identify with since this will be a very major > realisation for most that reality is more energy than it is physical > but since there are specific laws of cause and effect we find that > when energy hits another energy feild it creates a specific > reaction. But it has been and always will be energy and it's > relationships. > > We exist in a mental universe of crystallised thought energy. Our > senses are a form of communication devices for translating this > specific reality and it's order of cause and effect. When we touch > something, we are sent a message by that "something" that we touch > according to the relationship of cause and effect. That object tells > us by feeling that it is, say a ball. A group of focused energy in a > constructed thought forming a ball in a reality of cause and effect. > That ball is still energy and energy is thought crystallised at a > very specific frequency. > > This is a language. We think that our garbled human words are the > only thing that is communicating with us but we forget that all our > senses are in fact communicating with very specific frequencies of > energy. That the whole observed reality is speaking to our senses > screaming I am BALL! And we feel this ball, taste it, hear it > bounce, see it's collection of particles. But we do not realise that > we are from the same creative origin and lack the connection to > understand that this ball is a energy system that has an awareness > at a very specific feild. > > I would like to go into detail, but the best advice I can offer is > eat some rice crispies so that you can have all your senses > activated by this communication of energy and it's relationship with > your awareness. And instead of just wolfing it down, be aware that > your senses are communicating with very specific reactions of energy > and this dinner is simply communicating to you that this is what it > is, and you are sharing an exchange of energy with it. And enjoy > eating it, as all of the sensory input is a language of matter > reality. And this is what happens when you observe a very specific > crytallised thought energy. Apply this to all you experience > physically. And be aware that there is a relationship and a language > being observed at many differnet levels at once, to create your > sensory experience with this energy system. > > Can human thought manifest in reality? > > ABSOLUTELY!!!! 100%!!!! We just have a few handicaps to over-come. > First, we need imagination. We have to believe (and know) that we > can create something. And then we have to apply that thought. It > starts with an idea, say the wheel. The wheel was formed first by an > human idea. And then this human acted upon this energy of thought an > formed it by the means available to it. And by shaping physical > reality to a desired thought, a wheel was fashioned by a very human > hand. > > Then this wheel had a very specific purpose and it spoke to man, and > man called it wheel. When I say it spoke to him, it was observed by > senses as a circular object of specific order and design. > > All of our technology today comes from ideas that man has acted upon > when his desire became so strong that he had to form that thought by > means of physically hammering it out. They could not have formed if > thought was not first initiated. That it was thought seeking > manifestation and building energy, created the events which lead to > the first wheel being fashioned. > > If we think of something, and begin to add emotion to it, chances > are we will dream of it if we are active. That the thought formed in > an electromagnetic reality if you would like. If more energy is > added to this thought, a person might have an inspiration all of a > sudden to get off one's bottom and actually fulfill that dreamed of > idea. > > Thought forms reality, much how we form our technology. Reality was > a thought before it became crystallised. I will end this portion of > this discussion as I am rushing to get this out before I get lazy > and uninspired :) In the next segment we will begin to unlock how > our thoughts can manifest certain events in reality since there is a > reaction caused by this. And hence we will talk in some detail on > thought manifestation. > > Till then, > Ian Wilson > > Ian Wilson 102-197 Roy Ave > Penticton B.C.V2A 3M8 Canada > (604)-493-3455 > > This article is still being flushed out, so it is raw material and > will be revised as I include a lot more of what this area is > covering. I am just trying to get this out for a few who asked about > it, but more thought is required before it is fully explained as it > is. > > Ian Wilson > > * Origin: Penticton Community Online Media (1:353/115) FidoNet > =============================================================================== > Message 11246 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:47 > >From : GLENDA STOCKS > To : ALL > Subject: crystals > Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages" > > Origin: XBN - 0001 - F:I_UFO > From: DEBORAH MAYA Public > To: GLENDA STOCKS > Date: 01/28/95 at 05:28 > Re: CRYSTAL SCIENCE > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > HI! > This is another page in The 7 Mysteries Of Life: (Guy Murchie) > Crystal Science: Piezo, The Crystal of Life (double terminated). The > sort of crystal that reconcites this paradox of life best of > all is the rather extraordinary type called piezo, with > something like a very simple nervous system that makes it > generate an electric current whenever it is distorted by > mechanical pressure. The verb " to press" in Greek is piezin so > it was only logical to name this kind of vital response the > piezoelectric effect. It occurs because distorting a crystal > means moving atoms in relation in one another and, since some > of them are ions carrying extra electrons, this kind of > distortion amounts to a flow of electrons which by difinition, > collectively add up to an electric current. Putting it another > way as the illustration shows (in book) when a piezoelectric > crystal unit is not distorted its centers of positive and > negative electric charge conside and there is no flow of > current. But the same unit is squeezed into a different shape, > the charge centers are pushed apart and the current flows as > long as the centers keep moving. Further more because the > phenomenon is relative, it works recipiocally-so that, when an > outside electric current is applied, the charge centers move > and the crystal contracts or, if connected to an altering > current, it alternately contracts and expands. In which case of > course it becomes an oscillator and regulate frequencies in all > sorts of electronic equipment. (especially radios and > communications equipment) Among the better types of crystals > for piezoelectricity are salt, because its full of ions, > Quartz, tourmaline, and barium titanate, the last of which has > become important in radio and TV, microphones, where early this > century it learned to sing, Transmitters, submarine sonar > systems, ultrasonic tools and cleaning devices. (Can you > imagine with natural piez?) Feromagetic crystal with oppositely > magnetized sublatties so indenpendltly responsive to temperature > that by warming or cooling it a mere degree of two (as when > holding it in hand, as I do during a Transmission) it polartity > can be reversed, making it usefull for storing information in > computer memory cells. Another bi way jump takes us to the size > of a lava field containing quartz, such as a large one on North > Idu peninsula in Japan where an earthquake in November 1930 was > accompanied by spectacular lightning in a clear sky, a phenoemon > already becoming well enough recognized to have disseminated > the theory that piezoelectric crystals subjected to disrupted > mechanical pressure over many square miles of territory CAN > GENERATE VOLTAGE SUFFICENT TO CAUSE A THUNDERSTORM. (and a lot > of WEATHER CONTROL type conditions) In all such widely > different cases, it seems approprate to cite the increasing > evidence that in magnetically ordered crystals, the spins of > the atoms periodically do something that could be called a > flip, reversing their direction and polarity of Earth, the Sun > and the Stars and probably the Galaxies. And this change > actually advances from atom to atom like a roll of falling > dominoes in a microprogression physicist call a spin (indeed) > wave that sweeps through the material like a swell on a ocean. > It is a vital factor in the melodic reality behind the wave of > nature of all matter-the still mysterious truth discovered in > France in 1922 by Louis de Broglie after the merest hint in > acient ancient times by py l or t pythagoras who had listened > and listen for and eventually hear, the MUSIC OF THE SPHERES. ****8 > [...] > --- FMail 0.92 > * Origin: Spirit BBS **704-297-5973**Fido#1:3666/701 (1:3666/701) > =============================================================================== > Message 11250 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 09:28 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : GLENDA STOCKS > Subject: TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Glenda: Relay to Stewart Harris that when Joel, Bert and I get the TMI > device into a self sustaining form that will generate some extra energy > beyond what it takes to run itself the device will be intoduced to the > world as "The Harris Effect Generator" (HEG) and not the Searle Effect > Generator although they are closely related. Stewart's device is really > a poor boys approach that accomplishes the same results. "Elegantly > Simple". Just want all to know and give credit to the source of the > knowledge that will make it all possible. Sure glad you are into the > "Sacred Geometry" for in it lies all the answers to many questions. I > am working out the proper geometry of the circular self sustaining > device as we write and exchange ideas. To answer your question regards > the Vesica Pieces pattern all you have to do is clasp both of your > cupped hands together and visualize the thrust vector that would run > diagonally through the neutral center of the nested cup formed by your > hands. This is the energy vector formed by the intersection of two > energies coming together in exactly the same strengths and frequencies > to form the standing wave. That is the way Joel and I see it but we > don't have all the answers and this explanation will surfice in our > minds till someone comes up with concrete proof otherwise. You know > all about opinions, everyone has one and I'm sure all will have a > different answer as to how the TMI really works. I had fun yesterday > going around and cleaning out 4 Radio Shack Store of their loose magnet > stock. The Managers would ask me what I needed so many of these > magnets for. I would say "Just ring up my purchase then I will tell > you". After the sale was complete I would draw out the TMI and explain > to which the Manager would say, "darn it, you just bought all my > magnets so I will have to order more before I can build my own TMI. > The Tandy Wharehouse Computer is going nuts with this demand curve and > the reorder quantities are going out the roof. I can see a night shift > working at the Tandy Magnet Plant at Ft. Worth. Ha! Ha! Will keep you > all informed as to progress on the "HEG". Norm > > > > Message 11255 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 12:35 > >From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED -- > To : NORMAN WOOTAN > Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > Hi Norm! The hamster cage model was one Stewart and I both discussed > but I had designed one that is basically the current linear model on > edge.....there are several people who have written, called or emailed > they are doing essentially the same thing....to have one single closed > loop that propels the magnet continually is the secret and one that has > been missed for so many years....I am told there was a device of this > nature over 40 years ago that ran continuously....and after a couple of > years of so, everything became magnetic and the device stopped....the > inventor then simply replaced the magnets and it resumed... > ... > One other thing, do you remember the Hummel flying disk??? The > cylindrical magnetic suspension chamber uses the same continuous > forward thrust that had me going so bad on the way back and resulted in > that feeble attempt with the two black disks with all the little > magnets glued onto it..... > ... > It would have worked had they been attached as Stewart Harris had done to > take advantage of the 'magnetic instability'....since 1978, he has had > this information and been trying to get it out in one form or another, > now it's hit and will lead to phenomenal things....IT INDEED WORKS... > ... > Just got a call from Dan, after we talked last night, he rigged up the > magnets and was just laughing his head off at how it worked just as > described and dammit, after all these years, the principle (one of them) > is SO SIMPLE a child could do it.....anyway, he is placing an order > with AZ for hundreds of magnets to develop a circular track... > ... > It will be fun to watch this next year as the newsletters, conferences > and indeed THE MEDIA become aware and focussed on this principle...I > have sent out packages to all the contacts, TESLA, ESJ, BORDERLAND, > NEN, SEA, KING, BEARDEN, ETC....so they will be aware of what is going > on with the full details....it will simply expand now way beyond > this.....I just want Stewart to get his full due as the DISCOVERER of > the effect, not that others have not done it, but that Stewart first > RELEASED it for others to understand.....PHANTASTIC!!!......>>> Jerry > =============================================================================== > > =============================================================================== > > Message 11272 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 08:08 > >From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED -- > To : JOEL MCCLAIN > Subject: (R) TMI Plans > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > JM> > JM> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are > JM> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start. > JM> > [snip] > JM> > JM> Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a > result > JM> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them > JM> anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides > of > JM> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you > JM> will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set > them > JM> aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the > side > JM> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps". > | > | This reminded me of some thing, so I want and pulled > | my "Magnet File" (Need to look in my files more often > | things in there I didn't remember having, see near end): > | > | From Science & Mechanics Magazine, Spring 1980, > | "Amazing Magnet-Powred Motor" by Jorma Hyypia. > | > | On page 46: "In the assembly at right the vehicle is > | propelled, in either direction, by the force of the large > | magnets arranged below tracks." > | > | On page 47: is a Gauss plot: "... plots of > | experimental data showing the dramatically different > | magnetic effects at the north and south poles of armature > | magnet. These are "STEEPED" [Emphasis mine] readings made > | over the stator magnets and spaces between them. If the > | magnetic flux patterns are plotted on a continuous basis as > | the armature moves along the stator track, the result is a > | "sinousoidal" graph. .... showing complex magnetic forces > | interacting to create off-balance effects that move the > | armature from right to left..." This plot looks like your > | corrugated cardboard. > | > | [Next plan a trip trip to Toys'R'Us ....] > | > | "A transparent plastic sheet atop this magnet > | assembly supports a length of plastic model rail-road track. > | The vehicle, basically a model railroad flatcar, supports a > | foil-wrapped pair of curved magnets, plus some sort of > | weight, in some cases merely a rock. The weight is needed > | to keep the vehicle down on the track, against the powerful > | magnetic forces that would otherwise push it askew.... > | > | "...I was prepared to develop eye strain in an > | effort to detect some sort of motion in the vehicle. ... The > | moment the inventor let go of the vehicle he carefully > | placed at one end of the track, it accelerated and literally > | **ZIPPED** from one end to the other onto the floor! > | **Wow**!" > | > | "Knowing that I would be asked if the track might > | have had a slant, I reversed the vehicle and started it from > | the opposite end of the track. It worked just as effectively > | in the reverse direction. In fact, the vehicle can even > | navigate a respectable up-grade." > | > | Also see patent "4,151,431 4/24/1979 Permanent > | Magnet Motor" by Howard R. Johnson. Note that the graph "biassing > | magnetic field" on the first page is from some other patent, > | but I don't know which one. Also this patent is for a > | rotatory thing not the linear thing described above. It was > | the linear model demonstrated, but the a rotary thing that > | was patented. Also there has been some questions over the > | years if some of the article was true or not. > | > | Don't over look neat things you can do with magnetic > | 'craft' tape. You can get 20 foot rolls at any 'craft > | store', didn't you every wonder how all of those things got > | stuck to the front of the refiduator???? > | > | There is also the work of Bill Muller (2/29/1984). > | > | Picture a "Lazy Susan" on the moving part are > | intermixed magnets and iron blocks spaced every 22.5 degrees > | (center to center). On the outside (non moving part) are > | larger magnets/blocks spaced every 24 degrees (center to > | center). I know this is vague, but I can't read most of the > | details from this crummy copy. It was reported to work, but > | be slow and jerky, with little torque. > | > | > | As for the part about my bad memory, I have a copy > | of "Perpetual Motion Journal", March 1969, Volume I, Number > | 4. Any one know if these people are still around? One > | thing I can say is that the quality of the coping machines > | was a lot better back then than now, I can count the number > | of turns on the coils... > | > | Any way it covers these patens: > | > | #1,835,721 for a permanent magnet motor by Arthur > | Powell. > | > | #1,963,213 for a magnetic motor was issued to J.W. > | Poysa, 6/19/1934. > | > | #1,859,643, 5/24/1932, by Mr. Harry L. Worthington. > | > | #1,859,764, May 24, 1932 by Geroge H. Bougon. This > | one closely resembles what you have described. > | > | Also in the March 1879 (yes 18) issue of Harper's > | Magazine, reprinted in "The Theosophist" for November 1879, > | is reported to be a drawings of a working motor, any one got > | these laying around? > | > | And from NASA we have "A Linear Magnetic Motor and > | Generator: A device that can be used as a bidirectional > | motor or AC generator", GSC-12518. [Nothing self sustaining > | with this one tho. I've noticed some thing about this NASA > | stuff, any one of these things alone is not particularly > | exciting. But I've amassed a large collection of them, the > | sum of the whole is more than its components, there is a > | clear pattern of 'Free Energy' stuff emerging under > | the guise of "Space Operation".] > | > | "There is nothing new under the sun. See this is new." > | > =============================================================================== > =============================================================================== > > Message 11268 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 07:17 > >From : NORMAN WOOTAN > To : ALL > Subject: Inter-Atomic Resonance > Folder : A, "Public Mail" > > For a long time I have been struggling with an idea or theory which I > will share with everyone now and will write up for Jerry as a file if > he wants to post it. It goes like this: In 1892 Nikola Tesla created > electrostatic discharges from an induction coil that possesed every > characteristic of what we commonly know as a chemical decomposition > flame and posed the question to the scientific world; "Is a chemical > flame simply a release of atomic electrostatic rewsonances during > transition between states of matter?" My Cold Fusion Patent search was > based on the theory that since electrostatic forces are the "glue" or > binding force which holds all mater together then if we use resonant > standing waves (scalar effect) then we could disassemble the atomic > structure which is what Tesla had proposed during his Lecture before > the Electrical Engineering Conference in London when de discribed his > carbon button lamp experiments. My theory explains the dissosation > process in the electrolytic cell when we separate hydrogen and oxygen > from water. It is the inter-atomic resonances that cause the > disassociation of the hydrogen from the oxygen in the simple > electroylisis of water. The normally strong molecular bond of the H2O > molecule is broken by the difference in resonant frequencies of > hydrogen and oxygen which are excited by the flow of electric current. > When hydrogen is oxidized by oxygen (combustion) the results, water and > a release of energy which we perceive as heat and light is actually a > broad band of electrostatic resonances. This conforms with Tesla's > observations. Since the electromagnetic spectrum goes from "0"HZ or DC > all the way up to Cosmic Rays and who knows how much higher (infinity) > with no differentation or categories of energy then why can't all > frequencies be electrostatic resonances. When we feel heat we say that > is "heat" but it is actually and electrostatic resonance that we > perceive as heat and if the frequency is high enough it becomes visible > red or even higher freq it becomes white light if the resonances are > broad band to encompass enough frequenciesa > More later on this subject for Jerry does not want files in the message > base. Think about this one. Norm > =============================================================================== > > To all, as you can see that all of this TMIDEVIC activity occured during the whole MRA slug fest, both Joel and I were pretty busy juggling the balls in the circus. Lol > > On 2/17/2019 2:28 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> Hi Norm, >> >> Can you tell us more about this device Joel commented "this dog will >> warp" >> >> Sounds like some kind of Searle device possibly without the >> individual rollers. Perhaps similar to my concept of polarization >> bias via spin locking along with magnetic lenzing. >> >> Interesting how ferromagnetic materials are so easy to achieve >> molecular alignment. >> >> When studying the MRA did you determine to what alignment >> relationship the piezo had with the E field, if it was perpendicular >> again as the E to B and in what direction of rotation? >> Assuming the insect flight may also have something to do with piezo >> electric mode... >> >> Wonder which way one would have to align to allow for transparency to >> visible light... >> >> On 2/16/2019 5:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> >>> >>> The vortex phenomenon is everywhere. >>> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13 >>> From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> To : GLENDA STOCKS >>> Subject: TMIDEVIC >>> Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> >>> Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net >>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I >>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch >>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and >>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of >>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted >>> to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his >>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of >>> our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was >>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me >>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little >>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The >>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer >>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on >>> the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we >>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to >>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just >>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the >>> conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel >>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry" >>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI >>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making >>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the >>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk. >>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we >>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked >>> and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran >>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the >>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic >>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner >>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust >>> to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned >>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well >>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the >>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the >>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent >>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken >>> segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a >>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic >>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces >>> vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put >>> it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will have >>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non >>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing >>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of >>> excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is that >>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that >>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply >>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away >>> leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks >>> for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun >>> with this one. Norm >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> On 2/16/2019 7:32 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >>> > >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > Message 11109 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 >>> 07:46 >>> > From : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> > To : BERT POOL >>> > Subject: MIT report >>> > Folder : A, "Public Mail" >>> > >>> > Bert: Great report you posted yesterday. I need to go back to the >>> > Hydrosonic Pump testing that Joel and I did and write up our findings >>> > so those guys will have a better understanding as to what is going on >>> > in the Griggs and Perkins type pumps. They are off track by believing >>> > that the pitting effect on the rotor is caused by heat. joel and I >>> have >>> > already determined that the whole anomolous heating effect is an >>> > electrical phenomenon which we proved by building the pump unit with a >>> > transparent outer tube so we could study the cadeuses helix standing >>> > wave patterns which were composed of millions of very tiny bubbles in >>> > the shape of little tornadoes in the form of an "S" shape. The >>> > electrical effect is obvious by the presence of a very strong magnetic >>> > field around the rotor in the form of a magnetic monopole. I'm am >>> > surprised that Gene Mallove did not tell Griggs about our research fro >>> > I sent him a complete package on our testing of the Perkins Pump unit >>> > along with the MRA info. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Norm >>> > >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > On 2/16/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >>> >> Moray King, please note. >>> >> >>> >> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Message 11075 DATE/TIME: >>> 01/31/95 09:40 >>> >> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED -- >>> >> To : NORMAN WOOTAN >>> >> Subject: Griggs, C.F., motors, etc., cont. >>> >> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha" >>> >> >>> >> Norm, here's the good stuff! >>> >> Message #800 - Fidonet - Science >>> >> Date: 01-23-95 23:55:14 >>> >> From: Michael Fullerton >>> >> To: All >>> >> Subject: Cold Fusion Day at MIT >>> >> Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion >>> >> From: [email protected] (Eugene Mallove) >>> >> Subject: Brief Report on MIT IAP Cold Fusion Day >>> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:50:03 GMT >>> >> Lines: 139 >>> >> [ >>> >> *Brief* Memo on IAP Cold Fusion Day at MIT by Eugene F. Mallove, >>> >> Sc.D., meeting organizer >>> >> [ >>> >> The Cold Fusion Day IAP meeting at MIT on Saturday, January 21, which >>> >> I organized, was in my view, a spectacular success. About 150 >>> >> attendees in rapt attention for about 10 hours in the main Physics >>> >> Lecture Hall (Room 6-120). Several high points came at the end of the >>> >> day: >>> >> (A) Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc. (Rome, Georgia) gave a >>> >> magnificent presentation with new data on *massive melting* that has >>> >> occurred on the periphery of his Hydrosonic Pump aluminum rotors on >>> >> several occasions. He also described re-welding of melted material to >>> >> the rotor surface -- an even higher-temperature effect, he said. He >>> >> had one such rotor unit there and you could see and feel it. >>> >> Fantastically high temerpatures would be required to do that and this >>> >> is NOT ordinary cavitation. Among other observations, if it were >>> >> simple cavitation, why would that not occur as a regular feature of >>> >> Hydrosonic Pump operation? -- it does not. Cavitation experts at >>> >> Georgia Inst. of Technology have now become involved. They say it is >>> >> NOT cavitaiton. Griggs presented some stunning photomicrographs. >>> >> Meanwhile, the over-unity effect continues to be seen, even as Griggs >>> >> continues to sell in recent months several hundred thousand dollars >>> >> worth of Hydrosonic Pumps for standard applications up to 250 HP. >>> >> (B) Bert Werjefelt from PolyTech(USA) in Hawaii spoke about his work >>> >> on magnetic motors and the theory behind them. He reported that >>> >> experiments have seen output powers of 450 watts electric, with only >>> >> 150 watts electric going in. Attempts at self-sustaining have been >>> >> successfull for periods of minutes. The company now thinks it knows >>> >> how to make a self-sustainer continue indefinitely and is >>> building one >>> >> right now, expected to be ready in the next month or two. He showed >>> >> gorgeous CAD diagrams of the 100-200 watt self-sustainer now under >>> >> construction in Hawaii. He explained how it worked (the precise >>> >> balancing of repulsion and attraction systems to substantially reduce >>> >> torque). It was obvious that many if not most in the audience >>> accepted >>> >> his apparently very solid experimental conclusions -- even *some* I >>> >> would have thought would have left in disgust. Werjefelt put >>> forth his >>> >> theoretical ideas, which are based, in part, on suggestions made by >>> >> several (now) Nobel laureate physicists in the 1950s regarding >>> nuclear >>> >> magnetic spin systems (Pound, Purcell, and Ramsey). Others in the >>> >> audience were extremely excited by this report, and put forth their >>> >> theoretical ideas. Werjefelt is a solid mechanical engineer, whose >>> >> company manufactures pioneering FAA-certified safetly equipment. >>> He is >>> >> deeply involved in aviation safety issues and would have much >>> >> credibility to lose if he were not on absolutely solid ground with >>> >> this magnetic energy technology. He has been working quietly in this >>> >> field for about ten years. On the advice of his patent attorneys, he >>> >> published his general ideas in an article titled, "Magnetic Battery," >>> >> in that countner-scientific culture journal, "Extraordinary Science" >>> >> (Telsa Society), May/June/July 1993, which is availbale in places >>> like >>> >> Barnes& Nobel book stores. Don't let your prejudices about the Tesla >>> >> Society fool you, this is a very carefully crafted scientific article >>> >> with some excellent possible avenues to explain concrete experimental >>> >> results. >>> >> The 8-minute video tape of the Japanese developments in this area of >>> >> "Dream Energy" (Magnetic Energy) was shown. This had aired on >>> FUJI TV >>> >> in Japan on October 20, 1993. There are four major coporations >>> >> involved under MITI aegis: Sumitomo, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and >>> >> Matsushita. Werjefelt's company appears to have a very strong patent >>> >> position in his area, however. The chief engineer of the Aerospace >>> >> Division of Sumitomo has visited Werjefelt and told him that this >>> >> discovery is "the greatest discovery of the 20th century." >>> >> Gene Mallove, who has been working with others who are getting >>> >> similar, related results with smaller units, will co-author a paper >>> >> with Bert Werjefelt that will be presented at the Fifth International >>> >> Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF5) in Monte Carlo, Monaco (April 9-13, >>> >> 1995). This paper will present both experimental evidence and a >>> >> suggested theoretical framework. It is expected that several working >>> >> self-sustaining units will be brought to ICCF5. There is a possible >>> >> (likely!) connection with cold fusion thermal effects that have been >>> >> seen. >>> >> The MIT IAP proceedings of 1/21/95 were professionally videotaped. A >>> >> sligthly edited full-version of the day-long program ( 8-10 hours) >>> >> will be distributed by Cold Fusion Technology. Also, a shorter >>> version >>> >> summary (less than two hours) will be be prepared by Mallove, working >>> >> with a video production corporation in Manchester, NH. Due to >>> schedule >>> >> overload, it may be another 4 weeks before the tapes are available.. >>> >> Every effort will be made to accelerate the process. A transcribed >>> >> version of some of the talks is also being planned by Cold Fusion >>> >> Technology. >>> >> This is only the "tip of the iceberg" of the incredible events at MIT >>> >> Cold Fusion Day. In retrospect, this was an extremely historic >>> >> meeting. It was the first time that present and imminent >>> >> commercial-level power production from cold fusion/free energy was >>> >> discussed in a completely scientific manner at a major >>> university. The >>> >> message was apparently very well received. Mallove received numerous >>> >> compliments on the decorum and solidity of the sessions. >>> >> The former editors of "Cold Fusion" Magazine have joined forces and >>> >> put out an interim "Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology" (CFNET) >>> Update, >>> >> a 36 page compendium -- mostly on cold fusion. This was distributed >>> >> free of charge to attendees at the MIT IAP meeting. Others wanting >>> >> this document should send a nominal $5.00 to Cold Fusion >>> Technology to >>> >> obtain a copy for themselves: >>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816 USA >>> >> Fax: 603-224-5975, Phone: 603-228-4516 >>> >> This CFNET Update is a precursor to the continuation of a >>> **reliable** >>> >> Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology magazine (title yet to be >>> >> finalized). >>> >> ****A recent posting by Victor Lapuszynski of "Cold Fusion" at WGI >>> >> contained an egregious error: Piantelli has NOT seen "50 *MeV* >>> >> gammas"! He has observed 50 KeV gammas, and will be publishing a >>> paper >>> >> soon. And so there is absolutely NO CONFUSION here: There is no >>> longer >>> >> any connection whatsoever between Wayne Green's "Cold Fusion" >>> >> newsletter and Cold Fusion Technology in Concord, New Hampshire. An >>> >> indication of the "quality" of the present editorial direction at >>> >> "Cold Fusion" at WGI: Mr. Lapuszynski left the sessions after >>> repeated >>> >> announcements that two extremely important presentations on >>> >> experiments were to be made.]**** >>> >> National Public Radio aired a one-hour cold fusion program (1/20/95) >>> >> the day before the MIT IAP program, as part of the Ira Flatow >>> "Science >>> >> Friday" show. Featued for the "pro" side were Dr. Edmund Storms, >>> >> formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Dr. Eugene Mallove of >>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, who gave a brief overview of what the next >>> >> day's MIT Cold Fusion program would be about. Also on air were two >>> >> members of the "Flat Earth Society" -- Gary Taubes, author of "Bad >>> >> Science: The Short Life and Weird Times of Cold Fusion" and Professor >>> >> David Goodstein of Caltech, neither of whom obviously knew what they >>> >> were talking about in the matter of cold fusion. Neither have been >>> >> seen at any cold fusion conferences in recent years, but that did not >>> >> stop them from calling cold fusion research "lousy science." Both >>> >> managed to record themselves for posterity as the pontificating, >>> >> ignorant naysayers that they are -- at this, the 11th hour and 59th >>> >> minute of the Fossil Fuel Era, at the dawn of the New Energy Age. A >>> >> copy of this tape can be obtained from National Public Radio in >>> >> Washington. >>> >> Sincerely, Eugene F. Mallove, Sc.D., Cold Fusion Technology, >>> >> P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, Fax: 603-224-5975, >>> >> Phone: 603-228-4516 >>> >> >> Good stuff, no? Bert >>> >> >>> =============================================================================== >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >
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