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https://youtu.be/zoMk0estzXc The TIMDIVIC as discussed on the old KeelyNet BBS was a magnet runner track device that used the Orthagonal Magnet flux interaction that mimiced the Sacred Geometry Theory of the Vesica Pieces as shown in the video. Yes, the device was a rip off of the Searle magnet roller System. The dialog of the development of this system is hundreds of pages of dialog from the 1995 BBS of which I captured.
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Message 10870 DATE/TIME: 01/24/95 00:22
From : NORMAN COMPARINI
To : ALL
Subject: TMIDEVIC
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hello, all:
Regarding the system described in this file, my own crude experiments
show that the system works to the degree that it will accelerate the
runner from zero velocity ( and no input force ) over several ramps (
POSITIVE change in potential energy, PE ) via magnetic rails.
The key to this system's motion seems to be the use of attract forces
of the magnet to "pull" where needed, but then the earth's gravity to
break free from the magnet to "reset " the system subset. It must
break free or it will oscillate between the magnetic poles and reach
equillibrium. The sytem in this file uses a ramp to point the gravity
vector in the proper direction.
..
Momentuum also plays a role in getting the "use " of the
gravitational force....hard to explain without sckketches.....
..
I would like to know if anyone else has toyed with this design, as it
does not seem overly complex, and I feel that I am most likely
overlooking a subtlty ety that .......It
is interesting how the runner, being orthogonal to the two rails, is
able to sustain linear motion, and the goeometry cancels the torques
generated by two bar magnets out of parallel.....
..
Help anyone?
..
norm ( no, the other one )
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Message 10916 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:13
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Timedevice
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! Well, I built one tonite and it does exactly as described...a
cleaner construction with a guided pathway will make it run more better
and I think the alternately opposed tracks would work as
described...will clean it up some and try the alternate track thingy
for the next meeting....interesting principle, though a bit ragged in
the initial form...>>> Jerry
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Message 10917 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:17
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN COMPARINI
Subject: TMIDEVIC Works
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! Well, I did what you did and whupped one of those TMIDEVIC
things together tonight...it works just as described, most interesting
and I see why he needs the decline right after the top of the magnets
are reached...No doubt with a bit more refined construction such as a
smoother roller setup and a guided pathway, this dog'll hunt!
However, from what I can see of how the thing operates I think the
hamster cage apparatus won't work as first thought....but it leads to
some interesting speculations....I will let you know anything else that
comes of it designwise....>>> Jerry
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Message 10918 DATE/TIME: 01/25/95 23:20
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: Refer 10917
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Glenda! Just wanted to let you know that Norman C. and I both have
duplicated the TMIDEVIC that you shared with KeelyNet and it does as
described....very simple, yet intriquing...will let you know what comes
out of it as to alternative designs and that includes Stewart
Harris...thanks for passing it along....>>> Jerry
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Message 10930 DATE/TIME: 01/26/95 05:38
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : NORMAN COMPARINI
Subject: (R) Magnet drive
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! As to getting power out of it, I have not even considered
that aspect because the thing has not proven unity, itself...if that
circular or U track allows it to run around powered exclusively from
the magnetic repulsion, then maybe a different geometry might be worth
trying....I agree with you....something I noticed on mine...the more
magnets I added to the sideways stack, the less overall force it
had....20 magnets per side seems to give about the greatest thrust
using a 10 magnet roller...that is an odd phenomenon that I don't
understand at this point...any ideas on why the force would seem to
weaken?? All I can think of is the longer magnet causes the field
lines to be more separated and thus weaker...>>> Jerry
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Message 10996 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 09:57
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: TMI Plans
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are
the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start.
The magnets are Radio Shack part number 64-1885, normally 39 cents
each, but on sale now for 15 cents each. It costs $8.89, incl. the
sales tax, to buy the required 50 magnets. You will also need tape,
48 pennies, and a piece of corrugated cardboard. It takes about
30 minutes to put it together. You can either use a magnetic compass
or "trial and error" to get the magnets into position.
Cut a piece of cardboard 8 1/2 inches by 6 1/4 inches. Fold it so
that each "up ramp" is three inches long, and each "down ramp" is
1 1/4 inches long. Under the peak of each up ramp you will need
support, so tape together two stacks of pennies, six in each stack,
and put a stack under the middle top of each up ramp.
Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a result
of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them
anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides of
the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you
will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set them
aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the side
stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps".
If you are using a compass, the magnetic alignment will be:
second down ramp
N S second
up
S N ramp
first down ramp
N S first
up
S N ramp
S N runner
The height of each ramp from the table top will be 9/16 inch, which is
the height of the six penny stack plus the thickness of the cardboard.
If you experiment with this and get better results with your own
methods, please share the information.
As Mr. Rogers might say, "Can you say MONOPOLE?"
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Message 11003 DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor perform
and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make it into a
continous running motor. "HOT". Everyone will jump right on this one
for it has so many- many applications. When kids drag this little
experiment to school and show it to their science teachers they will
simply go "NUTS". Ha! Ha! Next thing will be a run on Radio Shack
magnets, and their computer was go crazy trying to figure out where
this demand came from for magnets that last week they could not give
away. Well to put it this way they put them on sale for they were
moving too slow.Sounds sort of like we were all buying parts for the
"Lee Trippett" circuit. tHEY PROBABLY NEVER FIGURED OUT THAT DEMAND
CURVE ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM EITHER. Norm
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Message 11019 DATE/TIME: 01/29/95 12:41
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: TMI..and thanks!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Glenda,
Actually, Stewart Harris and you did the favor for US by sharing
his ideas here...I'd like to know more about stewart's Theory of
Magnetic Instability. It's intriguing because, although the poles
of the magnets are aligned for a net repulsion, Stewart sees some
other definition of the forces at play. His definition works, as
opposed to that of his detractors, who apparently in their frus-
tration and desperation, have chosen to question him, instead of
actually building and analyzing the working device.
Magnets are holographic and like holograms, maintain their image
memory in tiny molecule-sized fractal pieces. The forces which
create magnets force the substrate to simultaneously expand and
contract, then "freeze" the energy/matter into an imbalance. Mag-
nets are, I believe, in a constant state of energy collapse, which
is why they "attract" materials which have molecular structures which
"resemble" their own. As with any hologram, we see the effect, not
the 3-space reality.
Stewart has been able to see and comprehend the reality, where science
has, by definition, limited itself to the (measurable) effect...and
it misses the boat. The "instability" part of Stewart's theory would,
I think, bridge the gap for us, if he will be kind enough to share it.
Stewart is a seeker (and sharer) of truth...he has friends here.
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Message 11044 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 12:36
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: All aboard!!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The TMIDEVIC can be laid out as a "train track", and the "runner"
can be placed anyplace within that track, and it will move forward.
As it moves, it gains speed. I suspect that with a long enough track
and low enough surface tension, it might attain high velocity.
The implications of this are enormous for rail transportation, far
superior to the "mag-lev" designs currently being built in Japan and
Germany. While there may still be a need for generators on TMI type
trains, for air conditioning, etc., the actual drive power is zero.
Small electromagnets could be used on the train for acceleration and
braking.
For the "return trip", just reverse the magnets on the train. So much
more can be done...this is just one example. Converting the magnetic
fields into circular rotation as Stewart Harris did can begin to
eliminate our reliance on fossil fuels. Mass transportation can be
much cheaper than ever thought possible.
The same principles will allow the electrical power that is needed to
be generated without any type of fuels. Regardless of what is said
today, I suspect that Mr. Harris will be remembered by history.
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Message 11048 DATE/TIME: 01/30/95 14:08
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: TMI Geometry
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Look at the TMIDEVIC again...the round magnets have torus shaped
fields. The 90 degree relationship between the runner and the rails
creates intersections at vesica pisces coordinates, which creates
a vortical energy flow on both ends of the runner, and the energy
increases as the number of intersections increases with the speed
of the runner. This dog can warp.
Joel
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Message 11077 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 09:43
From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED)
Subject: Rollin', rollin', rollin' down de river
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JOEL MCCLAIN
and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 01/31/95 at 09:50
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Joel,
I'm not going to be able to build one of the roller magnet thingies for
quite some time yet. I've got those little round magnets stuck all
over the inside of the cab of my truck, and my main observation is that
they suck (or maybe don't suck enough?). They are pitifully weak!
I've not seen ads for neodymium magnets in this shape, but I bet they
are made. What would this thing do with neo mags, say about 50 times
more powerful than what you are currently using? Would it lock up, or
would it go ballistic? If you are getting positive results with these
wimpy magnets, it might be very worth while to test with doughnut neos.
I volunteer $25.00 toward purchase of these neos, if a source can be
found. >> Bert
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essage 11083 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 11:18
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: TMI Geometry
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert,
I'd suggest using the cheap magnets at first, until you decide how
you want to construct your project. Magnetism is secondary to
geometry, and it is a matter of scale, not of effect. The effect
is the same. Even the weak magnets will accelerate uphill and
break the attraction at the top. PHI is the key, and it is constant
regardless of the (relative) strength of the magnets.
It is in the overlap of the fields where vesica pisces forms, and this
is the PHI coordinate, where the same etheric energy which causes
particle spin will rotate the magnets. TMI applies sacred geometry
in a way which utilizes etheric energy and that is why it violates
the "known" laws of physics. TMI also shows us how to end our need
for fossil and nuclear fuels.
Joel
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Message 11084 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95 12:08
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: Rollin'
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel,
Does the device accelerate the entire length of the track?
If so, is the acceleration linear or exponential?
I have a circuit that should allow us to measure the velocity at any
desired point. If the acceleration is exponential, then a relatively
short track should allow acceleration of this device to absolutely
incredible speeds. If acceleration is linear, then a relatively short
track should allow acceleration to "only" incredible speeds. I know
the device as shown in the plans uses ramps. Will the mobile part
accelerate on a track with no ramps? If so, the acceleration should be
higher on a flat track v.s. a ramped track. Comments?
Bert
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> Message 11003
> DATE/TIME: 01/28/95 18:49
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: TMIDEVIC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
> Jerry: I went out to Joel's and looked at his magnetic motor
> perform and we discussed at least a dozen possibilities to make
> it into a continuous running motor. "HOT".
[...]
******************************** I offer:
Actually, I had heard that Radio Shack was going to discontinue this
line of magnets. But they are available from most magnet
manufacturers, and in greater variations of strengths. I have had
models which constantly lift a runner which weighs about a pound.
As for the kids and schools and science teachers, this TMI device
has already won a Clark County Science Fair for a 14-year-old boy,
and he almost won the State prize but got a bit uppity with the
judges and ended up second. Plus, he got uppity because the judges
neither understood what it was nor believed it was not a sham.
[...]
Thanks again for your assistance. It seems my PMM devices will
become realities in the very near future. I don't know what the
science world will do. They forecast doom if I am right, yet I am
certain they will exert their outer limits of flexibility and come
to some consensus acceptable to all. I hope so. I certainly never
meant any harm to scientists or science; and I find it ridiculous
for anyone to believe I, one person, could do any harm.
Best Regards,
Stewart Harris
Internet: [email protected]
Internet: [email protected]
Las Vegas - Home of High Rollers, Aliens and the Good Life
and Continuous Motion!!
... All things are difficult before they are easy.
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Message 11103 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:02
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: Message for Bill Teague
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
Life is based upon only two number sequences: binary and PHI, or
Fibronacci. Every bone in every vertebrate has a PHI relationship
with a connecting bone. All of the dimensions of butterfly body
size, wing width to height, etc., are PHI. The nautilus shell is
a perfect Fibronacci, starting with PHI before it is even over one.
Sunflower spirals are always 3 or 5 in one direction with 8 or 13
in the other direction, corresponding with Fibronacci. The spiral
galaxy is a Fibronacci spiral. Plants grow blossoms according to
the Fibronacci series.
Cellular mitosis is binary. Octave progressions are binary, although
note progressions are in PHI intervals within the octaves. The human
spine is tuned with PHI ratios in adjacent discs and octave intervals
in the spacing. The upper and lower body halves are a PHI ratio.
Standing with arms extended to the side is a PHI rectangle, within
1/10000 of an inch for an average group of people. It takes 46 cell
divisions in binary sequence to replace all of the cells in the body,
and 46 is also the number of our chromosomes.
It takes 13 sperm working in unison before one is able to enter to
fertilize the egg. The sperm loses its tail, and grows to the exact
size of the egg, and intersects with it at exactly vesica pisces,
or where its outer edge touches the center of the egg. This is the
zero point, and from here life begins.
These examples are in all of nature. The Greeks used them in all of
their art, because they understood the geometry. The Romans didn't
have a clue, which is why Greek art is very beautiful while Roman art
of the same era is rather ugly. Most people, if they ever study PHI
in geometry are never taught how this is used outside of geometry.
It needs to be taught in music, and music needs to be taught in all
science courses, or they miss the boat. Hope this helps!
Joel
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Mick, do you understand why I said you need a crash course in Sacred Geometry??
Message 11104 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 01:03
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : BERT POOL
Subject: Riiiver
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert,
It's hard to describe without a picture of the power waveform super-
imposed over the distance waveform. The power leads the movement
like a square wave and a sine wave starting at the same point, be-
cause the power zero point occurs low in the distance curve, so the
peak pull differential becomes less as the roller gets higher. The
roller is starting to slow down before reaching the top of the
incline.
However, the roller has enough inertia to pass the attractions at
the top of the incline, and start down the ramp. The power wave-
form stays above the zero point, and the peaks "fill in" if you
draw overlapping circles which encompass the overlapping waves.
The overlaps are the vesica pisces coordinates, and they are where
the logarithmic spirals can be seen, which are the zero points as
far as power curve peaks. Now, since the TMI starts out going up-
hill, it seems reasonable that it should run like a bunny on a flat
track, and it does, and just keeps going faster. BTW, on the ramp
version, if the "rail" magnets are on the table instead of on the
ramp, the runner is faster because the net attraction at the top of
the incline is offset by the angular displacement of the fields.
Clear as mud, right?
Joel
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Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net
that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I
work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch
up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and
share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of
calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted
to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his
home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of
our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was
that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me
realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little
comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The
hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer
and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on
the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we
became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to
post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just
calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the
conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel
and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry"
so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI
device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making
the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the
process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk.
Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we
worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked
and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran
several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the
relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic
runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner
has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust
to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned
was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well
what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a
continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic
vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces
vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put
it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will have
created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non
indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing
properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of
excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is that
if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that
John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply
accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away
leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks
for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun
with this one. Norm
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Message 11128 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 20:34
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) Rollin'
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert, et al! Stewart says the reason he calls it TOMI (Theory Of
Magnetic Instability) is because something odd happens when you join
individual magnets as opposed to one long magnet....there seem to be
little circles of influence where the fields don't blend totally and
these act as stairsteps of alternate repulsion/attraction....he says
you can try to use a long bar or cylinder magnet and it won't work.
He is definitely onto something with the observation....spoke with him
Sunday and have put him in contact with a friend who owns a
manufacturing and distribution company, both are very excited and
coming up with various doo-dads to market as novelties and
toys....really glad to see something is happening for Stewart, but it
is still young at this point as they are new to each other....something
about this reminds me of the barium 'flutter' as in the Sweet device
and also the Gary magnetic motor....>>> Jerry
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Message 11146 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 00:17
From : STEVE THATCHER -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) MRA and other stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I certainly want to put my efforts in the best possible direction. I
have read all the messages concerning the TMI device and haven't put
together a mental model that I can build yet. It does sound simple
though. The thoughts I have been having regarding magnetism, electron
flow, photons, and emf all lump them in a similar category. Does anyone
therize that a photon stream carries a perpendicular magentic field
with it for example. I haven't studied up on the new photon theories
yet, but this one just kind of popped up as a question in my mind. Has
anyone produced a simple diagram for the tmi device? Maybe something
more concrete then message discussions will prompt me to order some
parts from Edmunds. Best regards, Steve Thatcher
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Message 11149 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 01:00
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm, you said:
>what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
>Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
>that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
>segments in the track as per the original plans.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by "..Phi rate in relation to the
fixed magnetic track.."? This sounds very interesting.
THX,
-Gerald
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Message 11158 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 07:20
From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Jerry,
Thanks for the upgrade. I've been busy reading the past messages.
But I did take time to build a TMI device and it really works. Now I
need to search my current download for thoughts on the "Flapper" or the
"Tireless Magnetic Rodent". I couldn't believe how the roller took
off! Thanks to Joel for his instructions and especially for the tip for
about the Radio Shack part number. Bye, Paul.
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Message 11169 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 10:50
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: Miracle of Flight in Nature
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Glenda: I read with great interest the message from Billy Teague where
he mentioned the flight of Hummingbirds bees and all of the other
Natural Aeronaughts. Since Joel and I are well into our education on
the "Sacred Geometry" then the following becomes perfectly obvious to
the "informed. Back some time ago there was a very good segment run on
PBS television (Nature or some other organization) about flight in
nature. When they showed a high speed photo sequence of a hummingbird
at a hover the researchers traced the wing tip paths and guess what
this trace drew? You are on the right track for now I can relate this
tracing directly to the VESICA PIECES that are nestred and intersected
exactly the same way that your little TMI device magnetic vortices
intersect to establish (running through the center of the vesica pieces
a resulting thrust vector which causes the lift. The energy is in the
form of resonant standing waves created by the wing beats or strokes
and are actually acoustic in fact. When you look carefully at the
intersecting wave forms they do not intersect straight on but are
actually closer to a 90 degree melding which results in the thrust
vector being established. When I went through the civilian and
military flight schools we mathmatically proved that insects such as
the hugh Japanese beatles and large bumblebees could not possibly fly
for the wing loading would be incredible and simply could not be done.
Well "mother nature" gave these little creatures the secret of the
"SCARED GEOMETRY" to achieve what our physics say is impossible. Can
you say there is a lot of power in resonant geometry? You bet and the
more we learn about it the more we will explain about the "NATURE" all
around us. There you have it, the secret of flight, just wish we had
the knowledge to apply it to our transportation problems. Maybe there
is something behind Jerry's men in silve suits seen flying around
useing some sort of acoustic resonant fields. more later. Norm
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Message 11171 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 14:37
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: Dances With Cows
Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
Howdy Bert,
As the roller begins to move, it intersects more magnetic flux waves
per unit of time, which increases force per unit of distance, which
increases speed, which cause it to intersect more magnetic flux waves,
and so on. That is the advantage over a bar magnet, which has only
one set of distributed flux lines. Each of the little bagel magnets
(too hard to be donuts) has its own torus field.
As to whether to use thick or thin magnets, and where to use them,
if the above paragraph is accurate, then thicker magnets would be
similar to bar magnets and tend to slow it down. I've found that
adding pennies between the magnets has the opposite effect, so that
thinner magnets with equal gauss and more spacing might be best.
You might even put springs in between the magnets at the start of
the track to give it a "slingshot" effect.
The Radio Shack magnets have a 4.5:1 ratio of width to diameter, so
at the "giddy-up", you already have a lot of torque. A lot of thin
magnets would overcome inertia from startup, where spaced thick mag-
nets would govern speed.
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Message 11173 DATE/TIME: 02/02/95 17:12
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Dances With Cows
Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
Joel,
If the TMI device can be extended into a cyclic device, i.e., a roller
on a continuous track, the obvious result would be a free energy
device. If it can be done using permanent magnets, then it can be done
using electromagnets. A permanent magnet design would be super-simple;
only one moving part, no adjustments, etc., which is a good thing so far
as reliability goes. But if you use electromagnets, you gain
magnitudes of order more control over the operating conditions. If you
build a circular track device, and start changing the spacing between
the magnets, then you will by definition change the diameter of the
loop, which means large mechanical changes, which is a pain. If you
can do the equivalent thing by turning a potentiometer, life is much
easier. I expect a simple machine to use perm. magnets, and a machine
which can be regulated will use electromagnets in at least the track.
Actually, as I think about it, if you were to replace the roller magnet
assembly with a coil/armature, as it passes the stationary magnets it
becomes an electromagnet.....hmmmm, might work, yes?
>> bert
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Message 11196 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 07:58
From : PAUL VISINGER
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Lurker making contribution
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Jerry. I'v been having great fun playing with my TMI device. When
the roller took off for the first time I was amazed and still am for
that matter. It required no finger push, in fact, I had to hold on to
it to get it into the proper position. I thought, "This must of been
what John Searle originally played with." So, I want to know more.
Where can I find out about "vesica pieces" -- I've seen it mentioned in
quite a few messages. Just point me in the right direction, specific
references would be much appreciated. Bye, Paul.
P.S. I've built several different configurations but now I want to go
circular!
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Message 11197 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 08:07
From : PAUL VISINGER -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: TMIdevice
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm. If you've already answered this question I'll get it from the
downloaded messages or if you're too busy I'll understand that too.
I've built several different versions of the TMIdevice. The version
Joel described, a flat one and a ramped one with the runners flat and
now I want to build a circular one. In message 11108 you mentioned
that you, "Increased the spin rate of the roller or runner by the Phi
rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied..." How did
you increase the spin rate. What is the Phi rate in relation to the
fixed magnetic track. What and where are the intersecting vesica
pieces vortex patterns? Any help would be appreciated. I really like
your work on the MRA. Thanks. Bye, Paul.
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Message 11200 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 09:08
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : PAUL VISINGER
Subject: TMI Device
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Paul: To answer your question which was asked by Gerald O'here goes.
If you roll the runner magnet assembly along a track your have a fixed
rate of helix magnetic flux interfaces that occur at 90 degree angles
between the fixed track and the rotating runner. If you mount the
runner or roller on a stainless steel shaft and mount a pinnion gear at
the inboard end or pivot end off the shaft running on a ring gear that
is a greater number of teath by the Phi ratio them as the moving arm
proceeds forward a spin rate of + Phi will be imparted on the spinning
roller and you will have eliminated the friction contact with the
track. Just visualize the differential gears in the rear-end of your
car for it has a ring gear and pinnion in a hypoid gear set which
allows a drive shaft RPM which is greater than the axle RPM by the gear
ratio. All I am doing is turning this arrangement around and letting
the pinion gear turn faster that the fixed ring gear. The central
pivot shaft of the whole unit has a DC generator attached to provide
the necessary loading to prevent the Searle Effect to progress to the
point of "lift Off". Believe me it will happen for when the rate of
intersecting magnetic flux lines of i
intersecting "vesica pieces" (will explain) are increasing to the
point that you have a plasma folding back on itself then you will start
seeing a corona or pink glow which happens when this beast achieves
it's "N" critical rotational speed. Searle claimed 3000 RPM was the
"N" crit on his disk but I'm sure it is a radius and perifial velocity
relationship somehow. Joel and I have tested the increased spin rate
and it does allow for a greater number of flux line intersections which
increases the torque and acceleration of the unit. We have resolved
the entire unit so that you do not have to have the broken segments it
the fixed magnet unit which we have formed into a contiuous circle with
only one outer fixed magnet with the rollers suspended on arms from a
central pivot point 6 each in number. Joel found that by spacing the
magnets apart with copper pennies the field effect was enhanced in the
fixed magnet unit. Basically it increases the little toroid flux lines
for there is a little leakage of flux trying to fold back in at each
little magnet interface (N-S) or junction. This becomes amplified when
you close the loop by making a continous circle of the little
"baggles", darnI like Joel's description of these little critters. You
really need to read all you can on the "Sacred Geometry" to fully
understand about the energies that are focused within the vesica
pieces. Joel is going back and modifying the Phi and Res file for we
have learned a vast amount of additional knowledge since this file was
created. Norm
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Message 11206 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 14:08
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: TMI or TOMI
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Well, I went with Norm over to Joel McClain's house last night, and I
was thoroughly instructed in the proper construction and operation of
the TMI magnetic propulsion device by Jake - a MOST astute five year
old!
The device does exactly what everyone says it will do. The roller
wants to roll like hell. It will roll like hell with ONE row of
magnets, instead of two. If you extend the length of the magnets, and
I did extend it to about 18 inches long, it rolls the whole length, and
evidences NO intent to slow down or stop. If I had a couple of rows of
magnets that went from here in Dallas to California, I have no doubt
that little sucker would pull itself all the way to Gerald O's house!
I have some discomfort about a CIRCULAR track, unless it is large in
diameter, because there is a possibility that placing the magnets at
the required small angle to form a torus may affect the shape of the
interacting fields enough between the adjacent magnets to stop it from
working. But Norm's prototype will very likely work. I'm not sure
the PHI ratio gearing will improve performance, but even without the
additional rotational speed derived from the planetary gear, it should
still run.
I've seen some neat things over the years, but nothing comes close to
this so far as simplicity and the fact that it moves!
It moves! ........ it moves up hill. It damn near leaps in the air!
It is going to be most interesting to see how far we take this thing.
Bert
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Message 11227 DATE/TIME: 02/03/95 23:58
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: Dances with PHI
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm,
Got my order from Am. Sci. & Surplus today...they actually do sell
things other than coffee mugs. Included was the "rattleback", or
"space pet", the ellipsoid that only spins CCW. If you spin it CW,
it rattles back and forth, stops spinning CW and spins CCW. I Know
that you aren't surprised that the ratio of width to height of this
device is PHI. Interesting how this was used in the geometry of
Noah's Ark. Also, if you add the width and height together and mul-
tiply them by Phi, then double the product, you get the exact length,
so once again it is the Fibronacci series (PHI) and the binary
series, which is the times two. Anybody could build an Ark just
by knowing the PHI ratio, and have a perfectly rock-less boat.
For some reason, the Celts used the exact same ellipsoidal pattern
on their knife and axe blades, but then they were primitives.
Other stuff...the angles of the Great Pyramid are approx. 52 and 38
degrees, as you know. The cosine of 52 and the sine of 38 (actually
the REAL measurements, not these approximations), are both 0.618,
the inverse of PHI.
Moray King and Dave Faust sent a fax tonight, with a suggestion for
using a third coil around the MRA, and feeding the MRA in that manner
as opposed to directly connecting into the primary. They tried to
upload the info as a file but weren't able to...durn 'puters.
Also, got a few radiac detectors...no particular reason, except they
were real cheap, so if you want one, it's yours. BTW did you know
that the half-life of U238 is 4.5 Billion years? Picked up that bit
of comforting info in the Pocket Ref book from A.S.&S.
C'ya,
Joel
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Message 11229 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:31
From : BILL BEATY
To : ALL
Subject: Bad Griggs News!!!
Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
All the internet traffic has made a local Seattle experimenter
approach me with some unsettling news about Griggs. This guy
says that Griggs was involved with Aquatech, the company which
had the Schaffer patent, that Griggs was sent by Aquatech to
install their products all over the country, that Griggs split
off with hostility to start his own company, and that Griggs
is not an inventor, but just took advantage of systems he was
working with already. This guy is Mike Huffman, [email protected].
He has just entered a patent for his own Schaffer-based device,
which he has done mainly to keep it from being taken over by
others. He is being non-secretive, and is spreading info packets
around on his device so that others can duplicate it.
.
His device is a "cake" of plexi layers having routed channels in
the form of a slight spiral, which is then spun in a plastic
close-fitting chamber. He has just begun testing, and has not
had the equipment together yet to measure overunity. THe device
is a little 8" box connected to a 1/3 HP pump motor, and it boils
water in a couple of minutes.
.
Some good news: he says that Schaffer had a "pull start"
self-sustaining device working at one time, but Schaffer pulled
the old secrecy act, never told anyone how it works, and died
with the secret.
.
I told him the story of the Texas inventor with the self-acting
vegetable oil spiral turbine. He then told me the Schaffer story,
and wondered why these people always take it to the grave rather
than just let loose. He applauds the MRA efforts. I haven't
convinced him to call Keelynet yet, but will soon.
cc: Norman Wootan
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Message 11231 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 00:58
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : PAUL VISINGER
Subject: Your MSG # 11198
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Paul,
and you're welcome!
Glad the info was helpful, and it's really great to see lots of
people looking into Stewart Harris' TMI device. It's truly excellent.
I was most fortunate that Norm got hold of some fine material on
the 'sacred geometry', and is kindly sharing it with me. Actually,
it was Peter Tompkins' book, "Secrets of the Great Pyramid" that
turned me on to PHI, and the new material goes right into the heart
of anti-g, ZPE, etc., and it is all PHI related, as is all of nature.
The term "vesica pices" is what Keely called the "neutral center", it
just defines it geometrically. The CBS eye is a vesica pices. When
you see it as a PHI proportion, you can connect with the concept in
a circuit where the fields overlap, or "breathe" into each other at
their centers. We can see this happening in the torus fields of the
circular magnets, and can therefore calculate optimum distance and
spin ratios using PHI. That's the 'secret' to the Schauberger
UFO design...three circles in octave proportion intersecting at
each other's neutral center...Fibronacci and binary.
From a less 'sacred' perspective, the TMI also has a 4.5:1 torque
ratio, based upon the 1/4" width and 1 1/8" height at 90 degrees
relative to each other in the TMI. The easiest thing for the roller
to do is to roll, and as it does, it intersects more fields per unit
of time, so it increases in speed at an increasing rate. It can only
go so fast before it intersects with half of the magnets on a round
track, and when this goes over 180 degrees, it should go airborne.
That's what happened, as you know, with the Searl generator.
Glad you're actively researching...hit 'em hard.
Joel
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Message 11234 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 10:12
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: Save the Greys
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For those who read messages # 11227 and 11231, where Noah's Ark and
UFOs are equated in terms of their use of the constant phi (í), you
may be wondering how this could be. Modern (at least Western) thought
does not provide the same "maet" concept as was used by the Egyptians
and others. The maet is a term which means that one set of principles
is at work in all things, and that a society can base its direction
and ideals on these universal constants.
Because í is how nature chose to "work", anything that is going to
work within nature should emulate the í proportion to avoid working
against nature. That is why all living things use this ratio, and
why successful free energy devices use resonance. As seen in the
file, PHI&RES.ASC, harmony in vibrations is determined by the root
derivatives of í times frequency. Harmonies create resonance, and
overlapping resonances, as Keely demonstrated, cross the zero point.
Walter Russell and others have been able to intuit the relationship,
but had they known the pervasiveness of í and used it knowingly, we
can only imagine how much further they could have gone. We have that
opportunity. It's only math, and really, it's very simple...da Vinci
and others understood it in our own recorded history. The problem
for some is that when you follow the natural progressions, it explains
too much...it can free mankind in ways that we are only beginning to
realize, as with the Incunabula and other forms of consciousness
elevating. These things are real, and can be accomplished naturally.
I believe that we are entering the dawn of a whole new era, and that
whether we are ready or not, we will soon be entering a higher plane
of existance, including unity consciousness. It is a natural stage
in the evolution of the universe, and by understanding the constants
of the universe, we can simply walk into the light of that new day.
It is our birthright, denied to us by those who know the maet, but
who use it to "rule" with. As with the dinosaurs who once "ruled"
the earth with fear, these folks are facing extinction.
I believe that ZPE has not been suppressed as much for the obvious
reason, as for the reason that understanding it of necessity leads
to the understanding of all else. That is why sharing this infor-
mation is so very important now. We can do anything that any machine
can do, and we give up our innate ability every time we use one.
Technology is a trap...the greys use machines as UFOs, and they are
now dieing out all over the universe. We can use our own energies
to create higher dimensional "UFOs", called merkabas, and free our-
selves of all need. We are ready now, and that is why the awareness
is being given. We have been, almost literally, asleep, through no
fault of our own. We are awakening now, and it's going to be a good
day.
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Message 11237 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 11:13
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Well now that Joel and I convinced Bert that the effect of the Syewart
Harris TMI is real and has potential of running itself we are off and
running. Last night I worked out enough of the geometry of a circular
device to determine that I need a total of 800 magnets to finalize my
design of a unit with an outside diameter of 23 inches with 6 rotating
spokes carrying the runner or rollers. Nothing ventured nothing gained
as we say. If it does not work we (Bert, Joel and I) will have a lot of
little novelity toys around to play with <g>. Is there any other use
for these "crummey" little magnets? Keep the faith for we know there
is a way to make this into a workable device. We all have our own
ideas so we have to put them into hardware form to test out the theory.
It looks good on paper but the proof is in a working device. Right
Jerry?? I still want to see Jerry's Hamster Cage TMI work with the
little magnetic rodent continously rolling along in it like ferris
wheel ride except the magnetic rodent stays at the bottom of the
spinning cage. See Jerry, Joel and I have a secret camera hidden in you
living room. Ha! Ha! Just kidding. Norm PS: well it is off to the
Radio Shacks to clean out the remaining stock. Let's see, I have 460
magnets now so I only have to find 340 more to complete this project.
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essage 11239 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 13:06
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: The Ark, the laser and the UFO
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Just one other note for now on the "rattleback" or í designed device
which is the geometry of Noah's Ark. The longitudinal axis blocks
laser light by inverting the phase and cancelling it. In other words
laser light will not pass through it on the double í dimension. I've
tried it, and you can see the cancellation of energy occurring.
A boat which is built on the same ratios does not rock in the water.
This has been tested empirically by a group of archaeologists who
built a small "ark" and found that it would ride over waves without
any feeling of motion. The end-to-end energy is cancelled just as
the laser light is cancelled.
Put two rattlebacks together and you also have the shape of a
"classic" UFO.
Joel
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Message 11243 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:37
From : GLENDA STOCKS
To : ALL
Subject: light universe 1/3
Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
27 Jan 95 01:24:12
By: Ian Wilson
To: All
Re: Universal Vision
---------------------------------------------------------
The Geometry of Light into Matter
The model is a representation of a vision that I had where I saw
sub-particles of matter as units of consciousness. The following is
an overview how the order of this consciousness relates to itself
and combines to create physical matter and the laws of cause and
effect.
The area of thought that this vision contained was relationships in
numeric unity and geometric form. I am still researching several
outlets to this form and attempting to articulate as much as I can
the vision as it creates itself in to logic and unity.
Keep in mind that this model is a representation and it's a small
tool to observe relationships in energy and thought as well as it's
relationship to matter. The nature of this is from the science of
spirit into the logic of matter so you may find some of the concepts
not adhering to linear time rather (to) events happening in infinite
timeless expressiveness.
A single group or sub-particle is a separated unit from a whole.
This whole is represented by infinite timeless existance and ties
into an order of thought that addresses a universal consciousness
that is self- actualising and expressively harmonious. Light and
pure thought was the intended model as a representation of this
universal infinitum. And all aspects of this universe was divided up
into an infinite number of parts. When these parts descend into
matter, they transform from light [energy] into physical matter.
From there laws are establised creating the structure and physics
that we form in our science.
For what ever reasons, the model for the singular personafied unit
of an infinite order was represented by this following model :
12 This model has 12 sides.
11ÚÄÄÄÄ¿1 We add 12 by it's numbers to get 3
10 ³ ³ 2
ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ eg. 12 : 1 + 2 = 3
9³ ³ 3
ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÙ We do this to fit it into a feild of
8 ³ ³ 4 unity
7ÀÄÄÄÄÙ5
6
This singular unit is a part of a greater body of energy. In it's
material state, it combines with other particles forming
relationships and bonds. The bonds were represented by a loving,
harmonious recognition of self and other parts of self. Since this
energy is light and light has consciousness this unit is self-aware.
The relationship was called a family and from this family we have a
molecular order.
The particles then bond in harmonious order to form larger matter
based relationship. Keeping in mind that all matter comes from a
universal field of light energy that has altered it's frequency into
lower vibrations to form matter. But in it's pure state, it is the
same: Light. We can take a look at Einsteins theory of relativity
2
where E=MC This formula represents the relationship of matter and
light as energy.
And all this light has consciousness. This key (that) is lacking in
our science is that energy is consciousness and aware that it
exists. That it is self aware. And self is what this model is
representing.
When light in matter unifies, it forms a relationsip with other
particles according to laws of relationships between matter and
light. This becomes a greater whole and we'll form how this order
creates a larger sub-particle.
We'll look at four groups of consciousness forming a single particle
of matter in a relationship. That particle has a unified number and
it has a relationship; we look at 4 units.
ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ 4 units X 12 sides = 48
³ ³ we add 48 together to unify the number
ÚÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿
³ ³ ³ 48 : 4 + 8 = 12
ÚÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄ´
³ ³ ³ ³ And we have 12, which in turn adds to 3.
ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄ¿
³ ³ ³ ³
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³ ³ ³
ÀÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÙ
³ ³
ÀÄÄÄÄÙ
What physical matter reality represents is light at a denser
vibrational state. Since light is consciousness, it was by thought
that the light had lowered itself in it's vibration into sub
particles. And it was this light in it's thoughts that formed
frequency, matter and fields of energy et al; the laws we strive to
understand.
The order comes from attraction and replusion. Since light in a
matter state creates a resonance of vibration it has a magnetic
order. Electro-magnetic fields form at various frequencies and this
identifying order creates the grounds on which matter collects into
it's schools of particles and families.
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Message 11244 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:40
From : GLENDA STOCKS
To : ALL
Subject: light universe 2/3
Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
The Universe as a Whole.
When addressing any universal concepts we scientifically see the
universe in terms of light, energy and matter. Energy being neither
created nor destroyed, just transformed into one stage or another,
but it is all energy, and the more groups of energy unified in one
frequency or pattern the more intense and focused the energy
becomes.
The universe is intelligent and energy has intelligence. Our
thoughts are comprised of electrical charges passing through neural
transmitters in the synapse. This unified balance of patterned
energy and it's applications give us intelligence, but intelligence
is still energy.
The reason we think on a human level is because we have a specific
frequency of thought energy and it's relationship in it's creative
design gives the framework for our consciousness and directs or
controls this intelligence for the purpose of this linear human
experience. This is commonly noted by brain wave patterns alpha,
beta, theta, and delta. Controlled frequencies of neural energy
(Intelligence).
We are focused particles of energy, matter and light formed in a
very specific design to comprise the experience we are. And it is
now very important to start to address thought and it's influence on
itself. Energy reacts to thought. But we are getting into a series
of concepts that humanly has been denied or submersed by the
inability of our thinkers to grasp that their thoughts are an energy
and are influencing creatively the effects of thought on light as
electromagnetic brainwave patterns.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And thoughts do
create very specific fields of biomagnetic energy in the mind and
this has an effect much like dropping a pebble into a pond. It is an
energy, but it is not felt physically rather by electromagnetic
fields instead of matter fields.
The universe is connected by both physical bonds and electromagnetic
bonds. Electromagnetic energy is becoming the science of the soul
and this is common with such concepts of an AURA which really is a
biomagnetic field that surrounds the body created by the various
patterns of electrical impusles caused by thoughts.
When the mind needs the body to preform a task, it sends a signal to
a muscle and this muscle reacts with controlled electrical nervous
responses and thus creates a movement acting upon a denser energy
stored in as fuel for the cells. Still it's different fields of
energy preforming very specific tasks. But it is all energy at
different frequencies.
This echange creates the biomagnetic aura as energy surges in this
living machine. And it all starts with thought. And thought is what
we will examine in some depth and draw upon some areas of thought,
of applied thought by influencing electromagnetic energy. And this
gets really interesting.
Back to the Vision and it's examples.
The vision then began to illustrate a field of pure white light
energy as the sum total of all energy existing in the universe in a
perfect harmonious balanced state of existence. That all parts of
this energy were at the exact same frequency and order of balance as
a body, much like an infinite ocean.
This field was labled the source, source meaning the source of all
energy and energy being consciousness. So a very intelligent and
self aware field of energy.
When this field began to apply thought, parts of it's self began to
form to those thoughts and this was illustrated as a change of
frequency and the birth of a new level of energy. This new level of
energy was the same but different and since it's thoughts were on a
different field than the first infinite body, this field was more
focused and represented the first applied thought.
And in an instant of infinite time, a reaction was formed. Call it
the big bang, or what ever concept of birth, and energy began to
lower in frequency and created personifications as this reaction
caused the entire field of energy to form the structure of the
universe by an order of applied self-seeking energy.
This reaction created a number of realities, energy systems and
physical matter reality was one of many. Physical matter reality was
the moment when this energy dropped so low in frequency that it
crystallised and became unified at a series of dense levels.
Since thought is energy and human thought is energy focused at a
very human level, we have to understand that there are many fields
of intelligent energy; all self aware as we are self-aware. We are
by no means the most intelligent force in the universe. And the
application of thought causes energy to react and form around that
thought giving it a dimension to exist in. And depending on the
frequency of that thought, it will manifest. And I mean it WILL
manifest, either as a mental formed image to a chain of events that
gives birth to it in reality. I will go into more depth as I will
lose so many at this point. So I will clarify this so we can
understand the principles of this.
The vision continued to show that these lower particles as they
dropped in frequency became less aware of the source and more
submersed into darkness. I saw that the darker it became, the closer
it came to the physical matter universe until the universe was much
like the stars in the sky, pin points of energy balanced by a field
of cause and effect.
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Message 11245 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:44
From : GLENDA STOCKS
To : ALL
Subject: light universe 3/3
Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
Why thought as a creative energy?
It was thought that gave birth to the reaction which created the
universes. Thought was dynamic and since thought is energy, it
created a very specific field of energy. And since that feild was
energy, it also had thought, but a different thought so another
reaction was formed and we have a chain reaction much like what
happens in a nuclear bomb when a chain reaction occurs.
And in all this reaction there were very simple universal laws that
formed around the relationship of energy and it's self. And we begin
to get into emotion, love, creation and other mechanisms of
communication that generate our reality and all realities that exist
at the different feilds of frequency.
This now becomes a science of light, and the science of thought.
Reality is energy, and energy is thought. There is a relationship
that we have to identify with since this will be a very major
realisation for most that reality is more energy than it is physical
but since there are specific laws of cause and effect we find that
when energy hits another energy feild it creates a specific
reaction. But it has been and always will be energy and it's
relationships.
We exist in a mental universe of crystallised thought energy. Our
senses are a form of communication devices for translating this
specific reality and it's order of cause and effect. When we touch
something, we are sent a message by that "something" that we touch
according to the relationship of cause and effect. That object tells
us by feeling that it is, say a ball. A group of focused energy in a
constructed thought forming a ball in a reality of cause and effect.
That ball is still energy and energy is thought crystallised at a
very specific frequency.
This is a language. We think that our garbled human words are the
only thing that is communicating with us but we forget that all our
senses are in fact communicating with very specific frequencies of
energy. That the whole observed reality is speaking to our senses
screaming I am BALL! And we feel this ball, taste it, hear it
bounce, see it's collection of particles. But we do not realise that
we are from the same creative origin and lack the connection to
understand that this ball is a energy system that has an awareness
at a very specific feild.
I would like to go into detail, but the best advice I can offer is
eat some rice crispies so that you can have all your senses
activated by this communication of energy and it's relationship with
your awareness. And instead of just wolfing it down, be aware that
your senses are communicating with very specific reactions of energy
and this dinner is simply communicating to you that this is what it
is, and you are sharing an exchange of energy with it. And enjoy
eating it, as all of the sensory input is a language of matter
reality. And this is what happens when you observe a very specific
crytallised thought energy. Apply this to all you experience
physically. And be aware that there is a relationship and a language
being observed at many differnet levels at once, to create your
sensory experience with this energy system.
Can human thought manifest in reality?
ABSOLUTELY!!!! 100%!!!! We just have a few handicaps to over-come.
First, we need imagination. We have to believe (and know) that we
can create something. And then we have to apply that thought. It
starts with an idea, say the wheel. The wheel was formed first by an
human idea. And then this human acted upon this energy of thought an
formed it by the means available to it. And by shaping physical
reality to a desired thought, a wheel was fashioned by a very human
hand.
Then this wheel had a very specific purpose and it spoke to man, and
man called it wheel. When I say it spoke to him, it was observed by
senses as a circular object of specific order and design.
All of our technology today comes from ideas that man has acted upon
when his desire became so strong that he had to form that thought by
means of physically hammering it out. They could not have formed if
thought was not first initiated. That it was thought seeking
manifestation and building energy, created the events which lead to
the first wheel being fashioned.
If we think of something, and begin to add emotion to it, chances
are we will dream of it if we are active. That the thought formed in
an electromagnetic reality if you would like. If more energy is
added to this thought, a person might have an inspiration all of a
sudden to get off one's bottom and actually fulfill that dreamed of
idea.
Thought forms reality, much how we form our technology. Reality was
a thought before it became crystallised. I will end this portion of
this discussion as I am rushing to get this out before I get lazy
and uninspired :) In the next segment we will begin to unlock how
our thoughts can manifest certain events in reality since there is a
reaction caused by this. And hence we will talk in some detail on
thought manifestation.
Till then,
Ian Wilson
Ian Wilson 102-197 Roy Ave
Penticton B.C.V2A 3M8 Canada
(604)-493-3455
This article is still being flushed out, so it is raw material and
will be revised as I include a lot more of what this area is
covering. I am just trying to get this out for a few who asked about
it, but more thought is required before it is fully explained as it
is.
Ian Wilson
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Message 11246 DATE/TIME: 02/04/95 21:47
From : GLENDA STOCKS
To : ALL
Subject: crystals
Folder : C, "INSIGHTS/Coincidences/Messages"
Origin: XBN - 0001 - F:I_UFO
From: DEBORAH MAYA Public
To: GLENDA STOCKS
Date: 01/28/95 at 05:28
Re: CRYSTAL SCIENCE
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HI!
This is another page in The 7 Mysteries Of Life: (Guy Murchie)
Crystal Science: Piezo, The Crystal of Life (double terminated). The
sort of crystal that reconcites this paradox of life best of
all is the rather extraordinary type called piezo, with
something like a very simple nervous system that makes it
generate an electric current whenever it is distorted by
mechanical pressure. The verb " to press" in Greek is piezin so
it was only logical to name this kind of vital response the
piezoelectric effect. It occurs because distorting a crystal
means moving atoms in relation in one another and, since some
of them are ions carrying extra electrons, this kind of
distortion amounts to a flow of electrons which by difinition,
collectively add up to an electric current. Putting it another
way as the illustration shows (in book) when a piezoelectric
crystal unit is not distorted its centers of positive and
negative electric charge conside and there is no flow of
current. But the same unit is squeezed into a different shape,
the charge centers are pushed apart and the current flows as
long as the centers keep moving. Further more because the
phenomenon is relative, it works recipiocally-so that, when an
outside electric current is applied, the charge centers move
and the crystal contracts or, if connected to an altering
current, it alternately contracts and expands. In which case of
course it becomes an oscillator and regulate frequencies in all
sorts of electronic equipment. (especially radios and
communications equipment) Among the better types of crystals
for piezoelectricity are salt, because its full of ions,
Quartz, tourmaline, and barium titanate, the last of which has
become important in radio and TV, microphones, where early this
century it learned to sing, Transmitters, submarine sonar
systems, ultrasonic tools and cleaning devices. (Can you
imagine with natural piez?) Feromagetic crystal with oppositely
magnetized sublatties so indenpendltly responsive to temperature
that by warming or cooling it a mere degree of two (as when
holding it in hand, as I do during a Transmission) it polartity
can be reversed, making it usefull for storing information in
computer memory cells. Another bi way jump takes us to the size
of a lava field containing quartz, such as a large one on North
Idu peninsula in Japan where an earthquake in November 1930 was
accompanied by spectacular lightning in a clear sky, a phenoemon
already becoming well enough recognized to have disseminated
the theory that piezoelectric crystals subjected to disrupted
mechanical pressure over many square miles of territory CAN
GENERATE VOLTAGE SUFFICENT TO CAUSE A THUNDERSTORM. (and a lot
of WEATHER CONTROL type conditions) In all such widely
different cases, it seems approprate to cite the increasing
evidence that in magnetically ordered crystals, the spins of
the atoms periodically do something that could be called a
flip, reversing their direction and polarity of Earth, the Sun
and the Stars and probably the Galaxies. And this change
actually advances from atom to atom like a roll of falling
dominoes in a microprogression physicist call a spin (indeed)
wave that sweeps through the material like a swell on a ocean.
It is a vital factor in the melodic reality behind the wave of
nature of all matter-the still mysterious truth discovered in
France in 1922 by Louis de Broglie after the merest hint in
acient ancient times by py l or t pythagoras who had listened
and listen for and eventually hear, the MUSIC OF THE SPHERES. ****8
[...]
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Message 11250 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 09:28
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : GLENDA STOCKS
Subject: TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Glenda: Relay to Stewart Harris that when Joel, Bert and I get the TMI
device into a self sustaining form that will generate some extra energy
beyond what it takes to run itself the device will be intoduced to the
world as "The Harris Effect Generator" (HEG) and not the Searle Effect
Generator although they are closely related. Stewart's device is really
a poor boys approach that accomplishes the same results. "Elegantly
Simple". Just want all to know and give credit to the source of the
knowledge that will make it all possible. Sure glad you are into the
"Sacred Geometry" for in it lies all the answers to many questions. I
am working out the proper geometry of the circular self sustaining
device as we write and exchange ideas. To answer your question regards
the Vesica Pieces pattern all you have to do is clasp both of your
cupped hands together and visualize the thrust vector that would run
diagonally through the neutral center of the nested cup formed by your
hands. This is the energy vector formed by the intersection of two
energies coming together in exactly the same strengths and frequencies
to form the standing wave. That is the way Joel and I see it but we
don't have all the answers and this explanation will surfice in our
minds till someone comes up with concrete proof otherwise. You know
all about opinions, everyone has one and I'm sure all will have a
different answer as to how the TMI really works. I had fun yesterday
going around and cleaning out 4 Radio Shack Store of their loose magnet
stock. The Managers would ask me what I needed so many of these
magnets for. I would say "Just ring up my purchase then I will tell
you". After the sale was complete I would draw out the TMI and explain
to which the Manager would say, "darn it, you just bought all my
magnets so I will have to order more before I can build my own TMI.
The Tandy Wharehouse Computer is going nuts with this demand curve and
the reorder quantities are going out the roof. I can see a night shift
working at the Tandy Magnet Plant at Ft. Worth. Ha! Ha! Will keep you
all informed as to progress on the "HEG". Norm
Message 11255 DATE/TIME: 02/05/95 12:35
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) TMIDEVIC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! The hamster cage model was one Stewart and I both discussed
but I had designed one that is basically the current linear model on
edge.....there are several people who have written, called or emailed
they are doing essentially the same thing....to have one single closed
loop that propels the magnet continually is the secret and one that has
been missed for so many years....I am told there was a device of this
nature over 40 years ago that ran continuously....and after a couple of
years of so, everything became magnetic and the device stopped....the
inventor then simply replaced the magnets and it resumed...
...
One other thing, do you remember the Hummel flying disk??? The
cylindrical magnetic suspension chamber uses the same continuous
forward thrust that had me going so bad on the way back and resulted in
that feeble attempt with the two black disks with all the little
magnets glued onto it.....
...
It would have worked had they been attached as Stewart Harris had done to
take advantage of the 'magnetic instability'....since 1978, he has had
this information and been trying to get it out in one form or another,
now it's hit and will lead to phenomenal things....IT INDEED WORKS...
...
Just got a call from Dan, after we talked last night, he rigged up the
magnets and was just laughing his head off at how it worked just as
described and dammit, after all these years, the principle (one of them)
is SO SIMPLE a child could do it.....anyway, he is placing an order
with AZ for hundreds of magnets to develop a circular track...
...
It will be fun to watch this next year as the newsletters, conferences
and indeed THE MEDIA become aware and focussed on this principle...I
have sent out packages to all the contacts, TESLA, ESJ, BORDERLAND,
NEN, SEA, KING, BEARDEN, ETC....so they will be aware of what is going
on with the full details....it will simply expand now way beyond
this.....I just want Stewart to get his full due as the DISCOVERER of
the effect, not that others have not done it, but that Stewart first
RELEASED it for others to understand.....PHANTASTIC!!!......>>> Jerry
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Message 11272 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 08:08
From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) TMI Plans
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
JM>
JM> For those who may be interested in building a TMIDEVIC, here are
JM> the measurements off mine, and it works, so it is a place to start.
JM>
[snip]
JM>
JM> Put together ten magnets. They hold together pretty well as a
result
JM> of their attractions, but you may want to smoothly tape around them
JM> anyway. This is the "runner". The magnet stacks along the sides
of
JM> the "up ramps" have a penny in between each adjacent magnet, so you
JM> will want to tape around each stack. Make these stacks, and set
them
JM> aside. Cut and prefold the cardboard. Next, you will tape the
side
JM> stacks to the top of the cardboard "up ramps".
|
| This reminded me of some thing, so I want and pulled
| my "Magnet File" (Need to look in my files more often
| things in there I didn't remember having, see near end):
|
| From Science & Mechanics Magazine, Spring 1980,
| "Amazing Magnet-Powred Motor" by Jorma Hyypia.
|
| On page 46: "In the assembly at right the vehicle is
| propelled, in either direction, by the force of the large
| magnets arranged below tracks."
|
| On page 47: is a Gauss plot: "... plots of
| experimental data showing the dramatically different
| magnetic effects at the north and south poles of armature
| magnet. These are "STEEPED" [Emphasis mine] readings made
| over the stator magnets and spaces between them. If the
| magnetic flux patterns are plotted on a continuous basis as
| the armature moves along the stator track, the result is a
| "sinousoidal" graph. .... showing complex magnetic forces
| interacting to create off-balance effects that move the
| armature from right to left..." This plot looks like your
| corrugated cardboard.
|
| [Next plan a trip trip to Toys'R'Us ....]
|
| "A transparent plastic sheet atop this magnet
| assembly supports a length of plastic model rail-road track.
| The vehicle, basically a model railroad flatcar, supports a
| foil-wrapped pair of curved magnets, plus some sort of
| weight, in some cases merely a rock. The weight is needed
| to keep the vehicle down on the track, against the powerful
| magnetic forces that would otherwise push it askew....
|
| "...I was prepared to develop eye strain in an
| effort to detect some sort of motion in the vehicle. ... The
| moment the inventor let go of the vehicle he carefully
| placed at one end of the track, it accelerated and literally
| **ZIPPED** from one end to the other onto the floor!
| **Wow**!"
|
| "Knowing that I would be asked if the track might
| have had a slant, I reversed the vehicle and started it from
| the opposite end of the track. It worked just as effectively
| in the reverse direction. In fact, the vehicle can even
| navigate a respectable up-grade."
|
| Also see patent "4,151,431 4/24/1979 Permanent
| Magnet Motor" by Howard R. Johnson. Note that the graph "biassing
| magnetic field" on the first page is from some other patent,
| but I don't know which one. Also this patent is for a
| rotatory thing not the linear thing described above. It was
| the linear model demonstrated, but the a rotary thing that
| was patented. Also there has been some questions over the
| years if some of the article was true or not.
|
| Don't over look neat things you can do with magnetic
| 'craft' tape. You can get 20 foot rolls at any 'craft
| store', didn't you every wonder how all of those things got
| stuck to the front of the refiduator????
|
| There is also the work of Bill Muller (2/29/1984).
|
| Picture a "Lazy Susan" on the moving part are
| intermixed magnets and iron blocks spaced every 22.5 degrees
| (center to center). On the outside (non moving part) are
| larger magnets/blocks spaced every 24 degrees (center to
| center). I know this is vague, but I can't read most of the
| details from this crummy copy. It was reported to work, but
| be slow and jerky, with little torque.
|
|
| As for the part about my bad memory, I have a copy
| of "Perpetual Motion Journal", March 1969, Volume I, Number
| 4. Any one know if these people are still around? One
| thing I can say is that the quality of the coping machines
| was a lot better back then than now, I can count the number
| of turns on the coils...
|
| Any way it covers these patens:
|
| #1,835,721 for a permanent magnet motor by Arthur
| Powell.
|
| #1,963,213 for a magnetic motor was issued to J.W.
| Poysa, 6/19/1934.
|
| #1,859,643, 5/24/1932, by Mr. Harry L. Worthington.
|
| #1,859,764, May 24, 1932 by Geroge H. Bougon. This
| one closely resembles what you have described.
|
| Also in the March 1879 (yes 18) issue of Harper's
| Magazine, reprinted in "The Theosophist" for November 1879,
| is reported to be a drawings of a working motor, any one got
| these laying around?
|
| And from NASA we have "A Linear Magnetic Motor and
| Generator: A device that can be used as a bidirectional
| motor or AC generator", GSC-12518. [Nothing self sustaining
| with this one tho. I've noticed some thing about this NASA
| stuff, any one of these things alone is not particularly
| exciting. But I've amassed a large collection of them, the
| sum of the whole is more than its components, there is a
| clear pattern of 'Free Energy' stuff emerging under
| the guise of "Space Operation".]
|
| "There is nothing new under the sun. See this is new."
|
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Message 11268 DATE/TIME: 02/06/95 07:17
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Inter-Atomic Resonance
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For a long time I have been struggling with an idea or theory which I
will share with everyone now and will write up for Jerry as a file if
he wants to post it. It goes like this: In 1892 Nikola Tesla created
electrostatic discharges from an induction coil that possesed every
characteristic of what we commonly know as a chemical decomposition
flame and posed the question to the scientific world; "Is a chemical
flame simply a release of atomic electrostatic rewsonances during
transition between states of matter?" My Cold Fusion Patent search was
based on the theory that since electrostatic forces are the "glue" or
binding force which holds all mater together then if we use resonant
standing waves (scalar effect) then we could disassemble the atomic
structure which is what Tesla had proposed during his Lecture before
the Electrical Engineering Conference in London when de discribed his
carbon button lamp experiments. My theory explains the dissosation
process in the electrolytic cell when we separate hydrogen and oxygen
from water. It is the inter-atomic resonances that cause the
disassociation of the hydrogen from the oxygen in the simple
electroylisis of water. The normally strong molecular bond of the H2O
molecule is broken by the difference in resonant frequencies of
hydrogen and oxygen which are excited by the flow of electric current.
When hydrogen is oxidized by oxygen (combustion) the results, water and
a release of energy which we perceive as heat and light is actually a
broad band of electrostatic resonances. This conforms with Tesla's
observations. Since the electromagnetic spectrum goes from "0"HZ or DC
all the way up to Cosmic Rays and who knows how much higher (infinity)
with no differentation or categories of energy then why can't all
frequencies be electrostatic resonances. When we feel heat we say that
is "heat" but it is actually and electrostatic resonance that we
perceive as heat and if the frequency is high enough it becomes visible
red or even higher freq it becomes white light if the resonances are
broad band to encompass enough frequenciesa
More later on this subject for Jerry does not want files in the message
base. Think about this one. Norm
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To all, as you can see that all of this TMIDEVIC activity occured during the whole MRA slug fest, both Joel and I were pretty busy juggling the balls in the circus. Lol
On 2/17/2019 2:28 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> Can you tell us more about this device Joel commented "this dog will warp"
>
> Sounds like some kind of Searle device possibly without the individual
> rollers. Perhaps similar to my concept of polarization bias via spin
> locking along with magnetic lenzing.
>
> Interesting how ferromagnetic materials are so easy to achieve
> molecular alignment.
>
> When studying the MRA did you determine to what alignment relationship
> the piezo had with the E field, if it was perpendicular again as the E
> to B and in what direction of rotation?
> Assuming the insect flight may also have something to do with piezo
> electric mode...
>
> Wonder which way one would have to align to allow for transparency to
> visible light...
>
> On 2/16/2019 5:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> The vortex phenomenon is everywhere.
>>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> Message 11108 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13
>> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> To : GLENDA STOCKS
>> Subject: TMIDEVIC
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Glenda: Several things have transpired over the last week on the net
>> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I
>> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch
>> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and
>> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of
>> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted
>> to the Net during the course of the day. Since Joel works out of his
>> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of
>> our discussions and project progress. What became obvious to me was
>> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action. What made me
>> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little
>> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump". The
>> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer
>> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on
>> the Net. As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we
>> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to
>> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just
>> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the
>> conversation instead of just one side. What I am saying is that Joel
>> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry"
>> so that we can see how all these things work in nature. On the TMI
>> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making
>> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the
>> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk.
>> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we
>> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked
>> and how it related to the Searle rollers. After I got back home I ran
>> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the
>> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic
>> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner
>> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust
>> to continue to move. One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned
>> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well
>> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
>> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
>> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
>> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
>> segments in the track as per the original plans. The track can be a
>> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic
>> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces
>> vortices. Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put
>> it, "This dog will WARP". A very true statement for what you will have
>> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non
>> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing
>> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of
>> excess power in the process. The biggest problem you are faced is that
>> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that
>> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply
>> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away
>> leaving a hole in your roof. All kind of possibilities here. Thanks
>> for sharing this little device with the world. Everyone will have fun
>> with this one. Norm
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> On 2/16/2019 7:32 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>> >
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Message 11109 DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:46
>> > From : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> > To : BERT POOL
>> > Subject: MIT report
>> > Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>> >
>> > Bert: Great report you posted yesterday. I need to go back to the
>> > Hydrosonic Pump testing that Joel and I did and write up our findings
>> > so those guys will have a better understanding as to what is going on
>> > in the Griggs and Perkins type pumps. They are off track by believing
>> > that the pitting effect on the rotor is caused by heat. joel and I have
>> > already determined that the whole anomolous heating effect is an
>> > electrical phenomenon which we proved by building the pump unit with a
>> > transparent outer tube so we could study the cadeuses helix standing
>> > wave patterns which were composed of millions of very tiny bubbles in
>> > the shape of little tornadoes in the form of an "S" shape. The
>> > electrical effect is obvious by the presence of a very strong magnetic
>> > field around the rotor in the form of a magnetic monopole. I'm am
>> > surprised that Gene Mallove did not tell Griggs about our research fro
>> > I sent him a complete package on our testing of the Perkins Pump unit
>> > along with the MRA info. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Norm
>> >
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>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/16/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>> >> Moray King, please note.
>> >>
>> >>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Message 11075 DATE/TIME: 01/31/95
>> 09:40
>> >> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
>> >> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> >> Subject: Griggs, C.F., motors, etc., cont.
>> >> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>> >>
>> >> Norm, here's the good stuff!
>> >> Message #800 - Fidonet - Science
>> >> Date: 01-23-95 23:55:14
>> >> From: Michael Fullerton
>> >> To: All
>> >> Subject: Cold Fusion Day at MIT
>> >> Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
>> >> From: [email protected] (Eugene Mallove)
>> >> Subject: Brief Report on MIT IAP Cold Fusion Day
>> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:50:03 GMT
>> >> Lines: 139
>> >> [
>> >> *Brief* Memo on IAP Cold Fusion Day at MIT by Eugene F. Mallove,
>> >> Sc.D., meeting organizer
>> >> [
>> >> The Cold Fusion Day IAP meeting at MIT on Saturday, January 21, which
>> >> I organized, was in my view, a spectacular success. About 150
>> >> attendees in rapt attention for about 10 hours in the main Physics
>> >> Lecture Hall (Room 6-120). Several high points came at the end of the
>> >> day:
>> >> (A) Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc. (Rome, Georgia) gave a
>> >> magnificent presentation with new data on *massive melting* that has
>> >> occurred on the periphery of his Hydrosonic Pump aluminum rotors on
>> >> several occasions. He also described re-welding of melted material to
>> >> the rotor surface -- an even higher-temperature effect, he said. He
>> >> had one such rotor unit there and you could see and feel it.
>> >> Fantastically high temerpatures would be required to do that and this
>> >> is NOT ordinary cavitation. Among other observations, if it were
>> >> simple cavitation, why would that not occur as a regular feature of
>> >> Hydrosonic Pump operation? -- it does not. Cavitation experts at
>> >> Georgia Inst. of Technology have now become involved. They say it is
>> >> NOT cavitaiton. Griggs presented some stunning photomicrographs.
>> >> Meanwhile, the over-unity effect continues to be seen, even as Griggs
>> >> continues to sell in recent months several hundred thousand dollars
>> >> worth of Hydrosonic Pumps for standard applications up to 250 HP.
>> >> (B) Bert Werjefelt from PolyTech(USA) in Hawaii spoke about his work
>> >> on magnetic motors and the theory behind them. He reported that
>> >> experiments have seen output powers of 450 watts electric, with only
>> >> 150 watts electric going in. Attempts at self-sustaining have been
>> >> successfull for periods of minutes. The company now thinks it knows
>> >> how to make a self-sustainer continue indefinitely and is building one
>> >> right now, expected to be ready in the next month or two. He showed
>> >> gorgeous CAD diagrams of the 100-200 watt self-sustainer now under
>> >> construction in Hawaii. He explained how it worked (the precise
>> >> balancing of repulsion and attraction systems to substantially reduce
>> >> torque). It was obvious that many if not most in the audience accepted
>> >> his apparently very solid experimental conclusions -- even *some* I
>> >> would have thought would have left in disgust. Werjefelt put forth his
>> >> theoretical ideas, which are based, in part, on suggestions made by
>> >> several (now) Nobel laureate physicists in the 1950s regarding nuclear
>> >> magnetic spin systems (Pound, Purcell, and Ramsey). Others in the
>> >> audience were extremely excited by this report, and put forth their
>> >> theoretical ideas. Werjefelt is a solid mechanical engineer, whose
>> >> company manufactures pioneering FAA-certified safetly equipment. He is
>> >> deeply involved in aviation safety issues and would have much
>> >> credibility to lose if he were not on absolutely solid ground with
>> >> this magnetic energy technology. He has been working quietly in this
>> >> field for about ten years. On the advice of his patent attorneys, he
>> >> published his general ideas in an article titled, "Magnetic Battery,"
>> >> in that countner-scientific culture journal, "Extraordinary Science"
>> >> (Telsa Society), May/June/July 1993, which is availbale in places like
>> >> Barnes& Nobel book stores. Don't let your prejudices about the Tesla
>> >> Society fool you, this is a very carefully crafted scientific article
>> >> with some excellent possible avenues to explain concrete experimental
>> >> results.
>> >> The 8-minute video tape of the Japanese developments in this area of
>> >> "Dream Energy" (Magnetic Energy) was shown. This had aired on FUJI TV
>> >> in Japan on October 20, 1993. There are four major coporations
>> >> involved under MITI aegis: Sumitomo, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and
>> >> Matsushita. Werjefelt's company appears to have a very strong patent
>> >> position in his area, however. The chief engineer of the Aerospace
>> >> Division of Sumitomo has visited Werjefelt and told him that this
>> >> discovery is "the greatest discovery of the 20th century."
>> >> Gene Mallove, who has been working with others who are getting
>> >> similar, related results with smaller units, will co-author a paper
>> >> with Bert Werjefelt that will be presented at the Fifth International
>> >> Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF5) in Monte Carlo, Monaco (April 9-13,
>> >> 1995). This paper will present both experimental evidence and a
>> >> suggested theoretical framework. It is expected that several working
>> >> self-sustaining units will be brought to ICCF5. There is a possible
>> >> (likely!) connection with cold fusion thermal effects that have been
>> >> seen.
>> >> The MIT IAP proceedings of 1/21/95 were professionally videotaped. A
>> >> sligthly edited full-version of the day-long program ( 8-10 hours)
>> >> will be distributed by Cold Fusion Technology. Also, a shorter version
>> >> summary (less than two hours) will be be prepared by Mallove, working
>> >> with a video production corporation in Manchester, NH. Due to schedule
>> >> overload, it may be another 4 weeks before the tapes are available..
>> >> Every effort will be made to accelerate the process. A transcribed
>> >> version of some of the talks is also being planned by Cold Fusion
>> >> Technology.
>> >> This is only the "tip of the iceberg" of the incredible events at MIT
>> >> Cold Fusion Day. In retrospect, this was an extremely historic
>> >> meeting. It was the first time that present and imminent
>> >> commercial-level power production from cold fusion/free energy was
>> >> discussed in a completely scientific manner at a major university. The
>> >> message was apparently very well received. Mallove received numerous
>> >> compliments on the decorum and solidity of the sessions.
>> >> The former editors of "Cold Fusion" Magazine have joined forces and
>> >> put out an interim "Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology" (CFNET) Update,
>> >> a 36 page compendium -- mostly on cold fusion. This was distributed
>> >> free of charge to attendees at the MIT IAP meeting. Others wanting
>> >> this document should send a nominal $5.00 to Cold Fusion Technology to
>> >> obtain a copy for themselves:
>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816 USA
>> >> Fax: 603-224-5975, Phone: 603-228-4516
>> >> This CFNET Update is a precursor to the continuation of a **reliable**
>> >> Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology magazine (title yet to be
>> >> finalized).
>> >> ****A recent posting by Victor Lapuszynski of "Cold Fusion" at WGI
>> >> contained an egregious error: Piantelli has NOT seen "50 *MeV*
>> >> gammas"! He has observed 50 KeV gammas, and will be publishing a paper
>> >> soon. And so there is absolutely NO CONFUSION here: There is no longer
>> >> any connection whatsoever between Wayne Green's "Cold Fusion"
>> >> newsletter and Cold Fusion Technology in Concord, New Hampshire. An
>> >> indication of the "quality" of the present editorial direction at
>> >> "Cold Fusion" at WGI: Mr. Lapuszynski left the sessions after repeated
>> >> announcements that two extremely important presentations on
>> >> experiments were to be made.]****
>> >> National Public Radio aired a one-hour cold fusion program (1/20/95)
>> >> the day before the MIT IAP program, as part of the Ira Flatow "Science
>> >> Friday" show. Featued for the "pro" side were Dr. Edmund Storms,
>> >> formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Dr. Eugene Mallove of
>> >> Cold Fusion Technology, who gave a brief overview of what the next
>> >> day's MIT Cold Fusion program would be about. Also on air were two
>> >> members of the "Flat Earth Society" -- Gary Taubes, author of "Bad
>> >> Science: The Short Life and Weird Times of Cold Fusion" and Professor
>> >> David Goodstein of Caltech, neither of whom obviously knew what they
>> >> were talking about in the matter of cold fusion. Neither have been
>> >> seen at any cold fusion conferences in recent years, but that did not
>> >> stop them from calling cold fusion research "lousy science." Both
>> >> managed to record themselves for posterity as the pontificating,
>> >> ignorant naysayers that they are -- at this, the 11th hour and 59th
>> >> minute of the Fossil Fuel Era, at the dawn of the New Energy Age. A
>> >> copy of this tape can be obtained from National Public Radio in
>> >> Washington.
>> >> Sincerely, Eugene F. Mallove, Sc.D., Cold Fusion Technology,
>> >> P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, Fax: 603-224-5975,
>> >> Phone: 603-228-4516
>> >> >> Good stuff, no? Bert
>> >>
>> ===============================================================================
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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