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Hi Norm,

Can you tell us more about this device Joel commented "this dog will warp"

Sounds like some kind of Searle device possibly without the individual
rollers.  Perhaps similar to my concept of polarization bias via spin
locking along with magnetic lenzing.

Interesting how ferromagnetic materials are so easy to achieve molecular
alignment.

When studying the MRA did you determine to what alignment relationship
the piezo had with the E field, if it was perpendicular again as the E
to B and in what direction of rotation?
Assuming the insect flight may also have something to do with piezo
electric mode...

Wonder which way one would have to align to allow for transparency to
visible light...

On 2/16/2019 5:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> The vortex phenomenon is everywhere.
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> ===============================================================================
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> Message 11108                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:13
> From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To     : GLENDA STOCKS
> Subject: TMIDEVIC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Glenda:  Several things have transpired over the last week on the net
> that had me really "puzzled" then I realized what was occuring. See I
> work everyday like most people and come home in the evenings and catch
> up on the messages on the Keely-Net. Since Joel and I are partners and
> share all data and information that we fall heir to I have a habbit of
> calling Joel and discussing all the details as to what has been posted
> to the Net during the course of the day.  Since Joel works out of his
> home he is responding during the day to messages and posting results of
> our discussions and project progress.  What became obvious to me was
> that I had become a "transparent" party to the action.  What made me
> realize this was a comment made by someone (I never forget little
> comments) that Joel had more info on the "hydrosonic pump".  The
> hydrosonic pump research was a project that I started back last summer
> and Joel got interested in the strange phenomenon that I reported on
> the Net.  As a result of these experiments that we jointly conducted we
> became "attached at the brain", Ha! hA!. I promise that I'll try to
> post thoughts and ideas on the board in the future instead of just
> calling Joel this way you guys and gals will see both sides of the
> conversation instead of just one side.  What I am saying is that Joel
> and I have both been involved in a "crash course" on "Sacred Geometry"
> so that we can see how all these things work in nature.  On the TMI
> device Joel and I have worked out a full sustaining method of making
> the TMI not only run itself continously but generate power in the
> process and if you so desire take "flight" just like the Searle Disk.
> Last night I went out to Joel's and we had a long visit during which we
> worked outr a lot of the details as to how the device actually worked
> and how it related to the Searle rollers.  After I got back home I ran
> several test on the magnet runner for I was interested in the
> relationship between the fixed track portions and the rotating magnetic
> runner or roller. The interesting phenomenon here is that the runner
> has to be rotating or the device will not provide the necessary thrust
> to continue to move.  One very interesting point that Stewart mentioned
> was that he used the "tinker toy" wheels to slow down the roller. Well
> what I did was increase the spin rate of the roller or runner by the
> Phi rate in relation to the fixed magnetic track and found that the
> intersecting vesica pieces vortex paterns were multiplied to the extent
> that this thing has incredible thrust and does not need the broken
> segments in the track as per the original plans.  The track can be a
> continous vortical or helixal magnetic flow with the runner magnetic
> vortex intersecting at 90 degrees to provide 3D nested visica pieces
> vortices.  Very interesting little device which as Joel properly put
> it, "This dog will WARP".  A very true statement for what you will have
> created is a very simplified version of John Searle's SEG. For you non
> indoctrinated out there that means Searle Effect Generator. This thing
> properly constructed will not only run itself but generate plenty of
> excess power in the process.  The biggest problem you are faced is that
> if you ever lose the laod on it you will have the same problem that
> John Searle had in that your home powering generator will simply
> accelerate to the critical velocity of the rollers and simply fly away
> leaving a hole in your roof.  All kind of possibilities here. Thanks
> for sharing this little device with the world.  Everyone will have fun
> with this one.  Norm
> ===============================================================================
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> On 2/16/2019 7:32 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> > Message 11109                                  DATE/TIME: 02/01/95 07:46
> > From   : NORMAN WOOTAN
> > To     : BERT POOL
> > Subject: MIT report
> > Folder : A, "Public Mail"
> >
> > Bert:  Great report you posted yesterday. I need to go back to the
> > Hydrosonic Pump testing that Joel and I did and write up our findings
> > so those guys will have a better understanding as to what is going on
> > in the Griggs and Perkins type pumps. They are off track by believing
> > that the pitting effect on the rotor is caused by heat. joel and I have
> > already determined that the whole anomolous heating effect is an
> > electrical phenomenon which we proved by building the pump unit with a
> > transparent outer tube so we could study the cadeuses helix standing
> > wave patterns which were composed of millions of very tiny bubbles in
> > the shape of little tornadoes in the form of an "S" shape. The
> > electrical effect is obvious by the presence of a very strong magnetic
> > field around the rotor in the form of a magnetic monopole.  I'm am
> > surprised that Gene Mallove did not tell Griggs about our research fro
> > I sent him a complete package on our testing of the Perkins Pump unit
> > along with the MRA info. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.  Norm
> >
> ===============================================================================
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> >
> >
> > On 2/16/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
> >> Moray King,  please note.
> >>
> >>
> ===============================================================================
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> >>
> >>
> >> Message 11075                                  DATE/TIME: 01/31/95
> 09:40
> >> From   : BERT POOL                          -- RECEIVED --
> >> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
> >> Subject: Griggs, C.F., motors, etc., cont.
> >> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
> >>
> >> Norm, here's the good stuff!
> >> Message #800 - Fidonet - Science
> >>    Date: 01-23-95 23:55:14
> >>    From: Michael Fullerton
> >>      To: All
> >> Subject: Cold Fusion Day at MIT
> >> Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
> >> From: [email protected] (Eugene Mallove)
> >> Subject: Brief Report on MIT IAP Cold Fusion Day
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 13:50:03 GMT
> >> Lines: 139
> >> [
> >> *Brief* Memo on IAP Cold Fusion Day at MIT by Eugene F. Mallove,
> >>    Sc.D., meeting organizer
> >> [
> >> The Cold Fusion Day IAP meeting at MIT on Saturday, January 21, which
> >> I organized, was in my view, a spectacular success. About 150
> >> attendees in rapt attention for about 10 hours in the main Physics
> >> Lecture Hall (Room 6-120). Several high points came at the end of the
> >> day:
> >> (A) Jim Griggs of Hydrodynamics, Inc. (Rome, Georgia) gave a
> >> magnificent presentation with new data on *massive melting* that has
> >> occurred on the periphery of his Hydrosonic Pump aluminum rotors on
> >> several occasions. He also described re-welding of melted material to
> >> the rotor surface -- an even higher-temperature effect, he said. He
> >> had one such rotor unit there and you could see and feel it.
> >> Fantastically high temerpatures would be required to do that and this
> >> is NOT ordinary cavitation. Among other observations, if it were
> >> simple cavitation, why would that not occur as a regular feature of
> >> Hydrosonic Pump operation? -- it does not. Cavitation experts at
> >> Georgia Inst. of Technology have now become involved. They say it is
> >> NOT cavitaiton. Griggs presented some stunning photomicrographs.
> >> Meanwhile, the over-unity effect continues to be seen, even as Griggs
> >> continues to sell in recent months several hundred thousand dollars
> >> worth of Hydrosonic Pumps for standard applications up to 250 HP.
> >> (B) Bert Werjefelt from PolyTech(USA) in Hawaii spoke about his work
> >> on magnetic motors and the theory behind them. He reported that
> >> experiments have seen output powers of 450 watts electric, with only
> >> 150 watts electric going in. Attempts at self-sustaining have been
> >> successfull for periods of minutes. The company now thinks it knows
> >> how to make a self-sustainer continue indefinitely and is building one
> >> right now, expected to be ready in the next month or two. He showed
> >> gorgeous CAD diagrams of the 100-200 watt self-sustainer now under
> >> construction in Hawaii. He explained how it worked (the precise
> >> balancing of repulsion and attraction systems to substantially reduce
> >> torque). It was obvious that many if not most in the audience accepted
> >> his apparently very solid experimental conclusions -- even *some* I
> >> would have thought would have left in disgust. Werjefelt put forth his
> >> theoretical ideas, which are based, in part, on suggestions made by
> >> several (now) Nobel laureate physicists in the 1950s regarding nuclear
> >> magnetic spin systems (Pound, Purcell, and Ramsey). Others in the
> >> audience were extremely excited by this report, and put forth their
> >> theoretical ideas. Werjefelt is a solid mechanical engineer, whose
> >> company manufactures pioneering FAA-certified safetly equipment. He is
> >> deeply involved in aviation safety issues and would have much
> >> credibility to lose if he were not on absolutely solid ground with
> >> this magnetic energy technology. He has been working quietly in this
> >> field for about ten years. On the advice of his patent attorneys, he
> >> published his general ideas in an article titled, "Magnetic Battery,"
> >> in that countner-scientific culture journal, "Extraordinary Science"
> >> (Telsa Society), May/June/July 1993, which is availbale in places like
> >> Barnes& Nobel book stores. Don't let your prejudices about the Tesla
> >> Society fool you, this is a very carefully crafted scientific article
> >> with some excellent possible avenues to explain concrete experimental
> >> results.
> >> The 8-minute video tape of the Japanese developments in this area of
> >> "Dream Energy" (Magnetic Energy)  was shown. This had aired on FUJI TV
> >> in Japan on October 20, 1993. There are four major coporations
> >> involved under MITI aegis: Sumitomo, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and
> >> Matsushita. Werjefelt's company appears to have a very strong patent
> >> position in his area, however. The chief engineer of the Aerospace
> >> Division of Sumitomo has visited Werjefelt and told him that this
> >> discovery is "the greatest discovery of the 20th century."
> >> Gene Mallove, who has been working with others who are getting
> >> similar, related results with smaller units,  will co-author a paper
> >> with Bert Werjefelt that will be presented at the Fifth International
> >> Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF5) in Monte Carlo, Monaco (April 9-13,
> >> 1995). This paper will present both experimental evidence and a
> >> suggested theoretical framework. It is expected that several working
> >> self-sustaining units will be brought to ICCF5. There is a possible
> >> (likely!) connection with cold fusion thermal effects that have been
> >> seen.
> >> The MIT IAP proceedings of 1/21/95 were professionally videotaped. A
> >> sligthly edited full-version of the day-long program ( 8-10 hours)
> >> will be distributed by Cold Fusion Technology. Also, a shorter version
> >> summary (less than two hours) will be be prepared by Mallove, working
> >> with a video production corporation in Manchester, NH. Due to schedule
> >> overload, it may be another 4 weeks before the tapes are available..
> >> Every effort will be made to accelerate the process. A transcribed
> >> version of some of the talks is also being planned by Cold Fusion
> >> Technology.
> >> This is only the "tip of the iceberg" of the incredible events at MIT
> >> Cold Fusion Day. In retrospect, this was an extremely historic
> >> meeting. It was the first time that present and imminent
> >> commercial-level power production from cold fusion/free energy was
> >> discussed in a completely scientific manner at a major university. The
> >> message was apparently very well received. Mallove received numerous
> >> compliments on the decorum and solidity of the sessions.
> >> The former editors of "Cold Fusion" Magazine have joined forces and
> >> put out an interim "Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology" (CFNET) Update,
> >> a 36 page compendium -- mostly on cold fusion. This was distributed
> >> free of charge to attendees at the MIT IAP meeting. Others wanting
> >> this document should send a nominal $5.00 to Cold Fusion Technology to
> >> obtain a copy for themselves:
> >> Cold Fusion Technology, Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816 USA
> >> Fax: 603-224-5975, Phone: 603-228-4516
> >> This CFNET Update is a precursor to the continuation of a **reliable**
> >> Cold Fusion/New Energy Technology magazine (title yet to be
> >> finalized).
> >> ****A recent posting by Victor Lapuszynski of "Cold Fusion" at WGI
> >> contained an egregious error: Piantelli has NOT seen "50 *MeV*
> >> gammas"! He has observed 50 KeV gammas, and will be publishing a paper
> >> soon. And so there is absolutely NO CONFUSION here: There is no longer
> >> any connection whatsoever between Wayne Green's "Cold Fusion"
> >> newsletter and Cold Fusion Technology in Concord, New Hampshire. An
> >> indication of the "quality" of the present editorial direction at
> >> "Cold Fusion" at WGI: Mr. Lapuszynski left the sessions after repeated
> >> announcements that two extremely important presentations on
> >> experiments were to be made.]****
> >> National Public Radio aired a one-hour cold fusion program (1/20/95)
> >> the day before the MIT IAP program, as part of the Ira Flatow "Science
> >> Friday" show. Featued for the "pro" side were Dr. Edmund Storms,
> >> formerly of Los Alamos National Laboratory and Dr. Eugene Mallove of
> >> Cold Fusion Technology, who gave a brief overview of what the next
> >> day's MIT Cold Fusion program would be about. Also on air were two
> >> members of the "Flat Earth Society" -- Gary Taubes, author of "Bad
> >> Science: The Short Life and Weird Times of Cold Fusion" and Professor
> >> David Goodstein of Caltech, neither of whom obviously knew what they
> >> were talking about in the matter of cold fusion. Neither have been
> >> seen at any cold fusion conferences in recent years, but that did not
> >> stop them from calling cold fusion research "lousy science." Both
> >> managed to record themselves for posterity as the pontificating,
> >> ignorant naysayers that they are -- at this, the 11th hour and 59th
> >> minute of the Fossil Fuel Era, at the dawn of the New Energy Age. A
> >> copy of this tape can be obtained from National Public Radio in
> >> Washington.
> >> Sincerely, Eugene F. Mallove, Sc.D., Cold Fusion Technology,
> >> P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, Fax: 603-224-5975,
> >> Phone: 603-228-4516
> >> >> Good stuff, no?      Bert
> >>
> ===============================================================================
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> >>
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