Re: [EVGRAY] Physicists Are Recreating 'Black Holes' in The Lab With Surprising Simplicity

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NormSome number of years ago when working as director of research
for a research and development project for a medical company,I had to come up with a way to make extremely tiny shapes, much like your vortex problems.The technology at the time for making logic chips, could be used.Layers of various deposits, the shapes generated photographically at that time, from artwork, of course, scaled down, were able to be deposited, one, on top of another, conceptually like 3 D printing, on a microscopic level.Oddly enough, to get something made from your supplied artwork was quite reasonable, compared to getting a new exhaust system put on the car!Back then, in the eighties, there were lots of independent contractors with chip making capability, taking advantage of government tax grants to encourage industry.I'm out of touch now, but I know that you could sure make tiny vortex nozzles that way, providing you have a usable design, by the square meter.When I got the chips made for the deadmau5 heads, we had to saw them from big boards, that they were printed on, using a bandsaw, if you can believe?They were then cleaned up on a disc sanding machine.They tested out with a 15% rejection rate, after, which is about average.In your case, you can leave them in boards to fill surfaces perhaps?What I am getting at, is that prototypes do not need to cost that much.They are the golf playing suits that suck up the funds in an organization.Guys willing to put skin and bones on the line, get things done, and don't cost that much.If you are friends with your right and left hands, it is amazing what just one person can do.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 7:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

I have clearly stated my opinion as to how any AG effect could occur  via the insect wing and shell theory.  Vortex, counter vortex induced flow could possibly create the effect. It would agree with my theory of lift generated over aircraft wings etc. in addition to Bernoulli and Newton's third Law.  The tornado induced vortex patterns could be  the causing factors for the AG effect we have seen.  It all goes back to the fundamentals of some sort of ionization of objects.   All of the anti-gravity examples have one common denominator, that being ionization induced via Acustics, Hertzian wave, Vibratory Physics or vortex generation.  All occuring down at the atomic level.  Yes, Stress Fields.
 
 On 2/10/2019 2:24 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm, 
 
 
You were friends with Jerry and I know how he was very insistent the Grebenikov story was real or at least full of substance and he is the main reason everybody in the West with such interests is aware of it.  Personally I think the gluing a bunch of insect wings part is a simile or metaphor.
 
 
What is your opinion of the story and do you believe G may have created a levity platform and if so how?
 
Being that stress fields (the ones the Russians were studying, cant recall the name now) create vectors at 90 degrees to the stress force I think an important part is imbuing this type of energy with angular momentum.  Back to my beer can, compression on the ends expands the center.  We try to first save the beer for Warren.
 
 

 
 On 2/10/2019 6:00 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Additional info.  See  http://www.rexresearch.com/pdf/levitylost.pdf
 
 On 2/10/2019 7:53 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
BTW, the most interesting work of Victor Schauberger was in the area of anti-gravity. One device that escapes mention was the Farrow Device. See, http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/farrow.htm  here we use Hertzian waves, EM force which in reality is what happens in the Schauberger repulsine device because of the ionization that occurs.  http://rexresearch.com/farrow/farrow.htm
 
 
Back in 1996, a friend showed me a photograph of Victor Schauberger and Son, Walter riding in a C-54 aircraft, looking down on Sherman, TX, the proposed re-location home. see
 
1958 An American consortium offers financial means for practical experiments with "Implosion Energy". Visit to Texas with his son Walter. Return to Austria after a heavy dispute. (Schauberger, Viktor) Viktor Schauberger was forced to sign an agreement, forbidding him any further research with Implosion. All documents, models and equipment are left behind in the USA. Five days after his return, Viktor Schauberger dies on September 25th ...Viktor's Children: Walter, Margarete, Huberta
 On 2/10/2019 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
https://peswiki.com/powerpedia:viktor-schauberger
 
https://sanet.st/blogs/games-musics/sacred_living_geometry_the_theories_of_viktor_schauberger.2401786.html
 
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_implosion.htm
 
http://changingpower.net/w-baumgartner-will-be-missed/
 
After studying all of Victor's works and writings and followed Walter Baumgartner's follow up works with Implosion Technology, I got a real surprise in the fall of 1995.  I was in a mining camp up in BC, Canada, where we had a community wash room, laundry area. The owners wife asked me to look at the mop sink that would not drain properly.  We filled the sink to maximum capacity and pulled the drain plug.  Immediately, a very powerful vortex formed and you could look down the 1 1/2 inch drain with the extreme vortex rotation velocity. It would take, on average, about ten minutes for the water to drain completely. Approximately 30 gallons of water.  Having read everything regarding the Golden Mean Ratios and the influence in  formation of the famous Implosion vortex, I carefully measured all the dimensions of the mop sink.  Yes, the length vs width ratio of the sink box was a perfect 1.618 ratio which was a major contributing factor with the very powerful vortex formation.  Instantly what popped into my mind was to install an impeller on a shaft  suspended in the vortex core at the exit to capture the high rotational energy.  Both Victor and Walter wrote about the corona charge that was produced by a very tightly defined vortex core exit. Interesting phenomenon.  TRUE STORY.   BTW, the Schauberger Implosion Vortex Technology is a perfect replicas of the Black Hole Space Phenomenon.
 
 On 2/10/2019 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    https://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-study-a-black-hole-s-hum-in-water-swirling-down-a-plug-hole 
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  Victor Schauberger "Implosion Vortex"!  
  
 
  
  
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