Body
Norman .....thought there should be more! lol
Found a box full of Youngevity , it would seem a friend dropped some off a couple of years back.
He is a retired electrician, he had a stroke and was bed ridden. A couple of years had past and he was up and fumbling around.
He was taking youngevity and found it was getting him better so he could get mobile.
I gave him some water , a week goes by and his wife called saying , he is building and has built a new deck today , he going
around like a young man! lol He mixed the youngevity with the water and found it went further on the healing value.
I need to check expiry dates lol
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Bart, here is part two of the Elemental Replication Document.
19 October 1996
To: Hal Fox ,� Fusion Facts
Elemental Replication?
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��� On 16 October I made an initial report on the electrolysis cell that appears to be creating mass or elements from distilled water and electrical energy input.� The following is the technical description of the cell , set-up procedures, run procedures and the final solid residue weight data.
Cell Description
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��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
��� The electrolyte originally used was Potassium Carbonate and distilled water mixed to provide a cell current of� 20 amps @ 5 volts DC.� Please don�t get excited by saying that 1.7 volts is the ideal voltage for electrolysis for this is not intended to be a normal cell operation from the get-go if you get my �drift�.�� The electrolyte that was substituted after two weeks of successful cell operation is a product called Body Booster which can be bought from most health food outlets and is produced by� The Rockland Corporation, Tulsa, OK 74136� 1 (800) 421-7310.�� This product contains 77 colloidal minerals which are plant derived from humic shale which is mined in Emery County, Utah.� Hal Fox said he was very familiar with this famous deposit of shale from a prehistoric forest dating back 70 million years.�� I used 500 ml. of the selected electrolyte mixed with 500ml. of distilled water which gave me a starting cell current of 30 amps @ 5 Volts DC input.�� The power supply selected to drive this electrolysis cell is a switching type that has an output of 5 Volts DC with a current capability of 120 amps.
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��� Recombination burn of the monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen give the proper heat signatures which enable you to determine whether you are generating H2 and O2 gas which is diatomic� or the desired monatomic gases.� Everyone experimenting with the famous �brown�s gas� knows that only monatomic gas will provide the high temperatures necessary to sublimate a tungsten wire.
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Cell Set Up
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��� With the cell set up and ready for operation a safety bubblier must be used between the gas generator cell and the burner orifice to prevent possible flash back implosion in the generator proper.� The burner nozzle used was hand drawn from quartz tubing� and was fitted inside a Pyrex cryogenic condenser unit which is cooled to about 40 degrees F. with circulating chilled water.� After power is supplied to cell and stable gas flow is established through bubblier the burn jet is lit off and inserted into the sealed condenser unit so that there is no outside air contaminates to deal with.� Since the burn of this ideal ratio gas is implosive when reforming into water the unit can be run in a totally closed and sealed system.�� Cell voltage , current and temperature is monitored by attached instrumentation.� A cell this size will generate 50ml. of reformed water during a 6 hour run with the cell temperature stabilizing around 120 degrees F.
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Test Results
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���� As stated before, after an hour of running time with the new electrolyte the temperature and cell current made a drastic increase caused by the shorting out of the cell plate stack from mineral sludge build up.�� After ten (10) runs recycling the same decanted electrolyte back into the cell the following� solid residue data was recorded after careful filtering, drying and weighing.
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Run # 1�� 8.04 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 2�� 7.98 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 3� 10.45 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 4� 10.71 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 5� 11.69 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 6��� 7.34 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 7��� 8.10 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 8��� 5.73 gm. dry solid weight
Run # 9��� 6.35 gm. dry solid weight
Run #10�� 3.96 gm. dry solid weight
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Total wt. 80.35 gm. dry solid weight
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�� A sample 500ml. quantity of the original electrolyte selected was vacuum distilled down, filtered and dried to determine the actual mineral content of the electrolyte with a resulting weight of� 5.8 gm.��� The label on the bottle state that the mineral content of 500 ml. is 19 gm.�� Since there is a glaring discrepancy between the starting electrolyte mineral content and the solid residue yield we carefully weighed all components of the cell and found that the cell anode and cathode plates had lost a total of� 34.79 gm of their original total weight of 464.28 gm.� A quantity of 500 ml. of the beginning electrolyte weighs exactly 527.4 gm.� After 10 runs the 500ml. quantity of the electrolyte weighs 523.9 gm which means that there is a density loss of only 3.5 gm. from a beginning (actual) mineral content of 5.8 gm.� After subtracting all factors we still have an excess mass of 45.56 gm. of material.�� Since this cell had been run for two weeks using the potassium carbonate as an electrolyte before the switch to the new electrolyte we could not determine the extent of plate material loss that had occurred during this first period of operation.������������������������������������������������������
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Test Results (New Cell)
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�� The solution was to build a complete new cell with all new parts and hardware. Everything was carefully weighed and documented before a new series of runs were conducted.� The following data is from fifteen (15) consecutive runs with the electrolyte being recycled back into the cell after extracting the solid residue.
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Run #�� 1��� 2.84 gm dry solid weight
Run #�� 2��� 4.16 gm dry solid weight
Run #�� 3��� 4.19 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 4��� 4.00 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 5��� 5.96 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 6��� 2.83 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 7��� 3.80 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 8��� 4.95 gm. dry solid weight
Run #�� 9��� 6.18 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 10�� 5.56 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 11�� 4.33 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 12�� 4.66 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 13�� 3.66 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 14�� 4.52 gm. dry solid weight
Run #� 15�� 6.57 gm. dry solid weight
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Total wt.�� 68.21 gm. dry solid weight
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��� When you analyze the weight data from the runs the question arises as to why there is such deviations in yield between the runs.� This can be answered from a visual examination of the dried and crushed residue. There is a distinct difference in color and texture from one run to the other with the beginning runs being a dark brownish hard residue� changing to a lighter brown soft clay like residue at the end of the run with an increase in volume toward the end of the series.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
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��� The electrolyte starts as a light yellow brown color� and ends as a darker more brownish yellow fluid which appears to have more dissolved minerals present than at the beginning.�
The next step was to disassemble the cell components and carefully weigh and document any and all losses which may contribute to the observed mass gain.�� After this task was completed we found a total loss of mass from the cell plates of 34.44 gm.�� This leaves us with an unaccounted for mass gain of 33.77 gm. derived from a starting volume of electrolyte that contains only 5.8 gm. determined by vacuum distillation of the actual beginning electrolyte (500 ml.).�� Two samples of the recovered material has been sent to separate labs for analysis to determine composition.�� This will present a problem since the produced minerals seem to change in composition and color with each run made.� It may be necessary to run an analysis on each and every run product to determine exact minerals being produced and in what quantities.�� Keep in mind that the electrolyte is far from being spent or stripped of dissolved minerals.�� I stopped the process at 15 runs so I could write this report of findings.� I will keep everyone informed as to future progress.� In the mean time I would invite anyone interested to replicate this experiment since it is so simple to set up.
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CC: Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy
CC: Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M
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Norman Wootan
P.O. Box 141049
Dallas, TX 75214
(214) 360-0865
On 2/6/2019 7:35 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Norman
��� Thanks for clarifying this. I nearly ordered this, as my search only referred to these products
https://saferemedies.com/product/vitamins-minerals/xxl-colloidal-minerals/
You once mentioned you would like to play with some powdered mags to see its flow ability (8 micron maybe?) I can only assume.
Some one suggested it would most likely clump. But not if the right stabilizer s� can be employed .
I will post some thing to you I have been working on but will need a little more time.
I accidentally came across this� product, only mentioning it because I think we will need a substrate then additives to charge and discharge
when considering a flow battery.
https://www.americanelements.com/selenium-77-isotope-14681-72-2
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=flow+battery+
I sat in on 29 lectures of the 35� Donald Sadoway gave at MIT��� concerning his flow battery.
This re-inspired my interests , probably worth for all for entertainment as I hope to actually take this some wheres soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQ9a_xIqRg
This is his TED talk for his conclusion, how ever I think we can piggy back for a period.
https://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy?language=en
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The electrolyte was Body Booster, sole in Health Food Stores, Origin is Humic Shale. See: https://thesoulofahorse.com/take-charge-of-your-life/youngevitys-humic-shale-mine-in-utah/�� 77 minerals for the replication atomic templates.
On 2/6/2019 12:10 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Mick,
� Where does Norm refer to humic acid?
Its probably right in front of me !
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Bart, use the 77 colloidal elements in your cell, a lot of atomic templates!� See: Elemental Replication.
16 October 1996
To: Hal Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental Replication ?
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����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear freind and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� �������
��� After about an hour of operation the cell went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature rapidly climbing to boiling point and the current out of sight.� When the cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit which shorted the cell plates.�� Our first thought was that the electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal minerals which caused the deposit found.�� The� electrolyte was allowed to settle out the precipitate.�� After� decanting off,� the clear electrolyte was returned to the cell for another run. Again the cell operated normally for about an hour with a normal recombination burn and recovery of the water being consumed by the cell in the splitting action.�� Again the cell temperature and current mirrored the first run.� Again the cell contained the same amount of sludge residue.�� This process was repeated ten (10) times with exactly the same results.�� All of the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an electronic scale with a five decimal resolution.��������������������� The cell plates and all hardware were weighed to determine any loss of mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed in the sludge.� Five hundred (500) ml of the original electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum distilled to determine the exact mass of colloidal minerals contained.� When all factors were considered we came out with a mass gain of� 48 gm which cannot be explained by conventional electrolysis.����������������������
��� After talking to Dr. Robert Bass and Hal Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on the transmutation of elements in the cold fusion cell which is the process that Dr. John Bockris has been so active in.�� Both Dr. Bass and Hal Fox stated that what I was observing is not the same as the transmutation observed in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall mass gain and not a lateral movement of elements in the periodic table toward lighter elements with a resulting heat release.� This unusual cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the scientific community. �At this time I have built a complete new cell with every possible factor which could possibly explain the mass gain considered and documented.� The ten (10) consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed soon and a report will be forthcoming.�� What is interesting about this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was made with the original electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was recovered as in the previous ten runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
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Since the same electrolyte is reused each time with only distilled water being added to replace the volume lost by the removal of the solids and the water recovered by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to explain the observed phenomenon.���� The electrolyte appears stronger in mineral concentration and shows no sign of depletion.��������������������������������
�� After confering with Joe Tyls we arrived at the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals contained in the electrolyte provide the atomic templates needed for the monatomic hydrogen (father of all the elements) to replicate selected elements in this exotic mixture.� If you subscribe to the theories of the late Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave based periodic table with monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as hydrons (precursor to hydrogen) then it is possible for the replication of elements directly from energy input alone.� This is how all matter was created in the beginning as described by Schappeller in �The Physics of the Primary State of Matter�.��� I will keep all informed as to our progress and findings in this very intriguing venture.
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Norman Wootan
P.O. Box 141049
Dallas, TX 75214
(214) 360-0865
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CC:� Gene Mallove, Infinite Energy
CC:� Dr. John Bockris, Texas A/M
On 1/22/2019 3:16 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Mick,
���������������� Cool....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyratron� <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyratron>
I remember from a retired electronic engineer� speaking on something like this, what gases are you using?
He said I think there was a standard one available in the 50s and 60s. Triode� maybe ( a stable gain with in, cathode applications ?) , I do not recall the details.
Said they stopped making them but there was a knock off available from Russia.� Whats your application?
The construction on my favorite cell is really nothing special , currently just hammering elements for now looking for reaction times,
in hopes of getting the best values with in a specific time of efforts.
A Fleischmann and Pons � exercise� only a wider variant of elements with increased inputs.
� Symbiotic like values. such as .1�� .01 .001 ,0001 and so on.
�The higher the temp , the higher the exchange rates, the longer� and higher stay of a quick pressures kind of thing.
Hoping to get a combined attachment that can be a standard.
Currently I am out of time on my daily schedule again .
I would how ever like to get some thing to solve the controller aspect.
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Bart,
Below are some possible solutions, if I knew more of what you are building I could be more specific.� My current project is undertaking the plasma magnetic field creation but will be utilizing RF pulses of a couple hundred watts from a� switch mode supply.� After preliminary research and configuring output to drive hydrogen thyratrons I may build the design into a half bridge for more control.
How are you varying the stoichiometry of the HHO mix?
For the power levels you are considering electric vehicle controllers look like the answer and are a bit pricey again unless you want to break out the soldering iron.� By the time you build 3 bridges to fire off a lower power controller it's that much more time involved.
Here are two of the EV controller sources:
http://www.fsip.biz/Documents/EVT1000%20Spec%20Sheet.pdf
https://www.evwest.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1
These guys have some lower power controllers you could add IGBT boards to:
https://www.goldenmotor.com/frame-bldcmotor.htm
https://guide.alibaba.com/guidesearch.html?fsb=y&IndexArea=guide_en&CatId=&SearchText=BLDC+controller
If I was to start from scratch with a chip rather than a microprocessor it would likely be one of these due to high frequency avail
tps40090� controller
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/3280891_Automotive_DC-DC_bidirectional_converter_made_with_many_interleaved_buck_stages
http://www.electronics-lab.com/project/mc33035-brushless-motor-driver-breakout-board/
http://www.ti.com/tool/TIDA-00909
On 1/21/2019 12:30 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Mick,
���������� It was quite the experience! lol
� When they could figure out who would be the officer in charge (because it was three towns responding) said when they heard and felt it they thought it was definitely a meth lab! hahahahaha
Had to think while shaking off the incident as to what� I would tell them. You have to understand I ran it hundreds of times so it became a very entrusted
component that I came to rely on, a stable standard . When it went off it was only 2ft from me. I told them I was trying to develop helium 5. lol
They of course did not believe me, but they settled as most of would not really know anything. Over the next couple of days they came back in groups of two and four several times asking again. I told them I was busy. Then they asked if I would do a small seminar so they could be prepared. I said sure , but was always busy.
They eventually settled down over all. In the next few weeks to months some weird things happened with an f16 . They were doing maneuvering exercises locally.
� Then on one afternoon my son and I were out front doing some yard� maintenance and I heard this unusual thrust sound.
Yep this guy came down and practically buzzed the tree line pulling off green leaves from the trees like a cloud of green behind him, he came in so low I could almost read his name on his helmet.
My boy ran behind the tree crying and asking me whats happening. I told him they are just keeping security. He then did it again!! , looped, this time not so low.
I think really just to cover his butt back at base. There is a ceiling restriction . I was going to go investigate but thought again on it.
Then the drones started lol. Whoommmmmm� ha� ha ha. The neighbors started to complain . I think really my house became a usual path for the drones as
Canada had just okayed the allowance for 150 mile surveillance in from the border. I really did set off the seismic graph so they told me. hahahaha
So we got in the habit of holding up our Tim Horton coffee cup! hahaha� Fun times!!!
Ok on the implosion!�� Yes tried to find different ones available but with no luck.
Rafael Morgado was to send a small version of his myt . Waited for several years but it never materialized.
Mazda head office was to send in some motors and parts , but it was when they were shutting down, so they got worried about themselves instead of thinking forward.
So I decided to go with a bench build of an old single rotor snowmobile motor, oddly I can not recall the brand just now.
But I set it up with some mods of an alternator 300amp @ 5 to 1� ratio from the crank.I want to see what� stoichiometry I am running with.
CFM is high but thinking I can loop most.
Hoping the work force per base does enough work required for the timely values.
Probably not good but I am hoping to change it up on the fly as needed.
I purchased an old 05 rx8 yanked the motor and am now waiting on the 3 thou over sized ceramic racing kit for it.
Mick I do need something here maybe you can help source it if you would. I need a controller , now days I am told you can get high amp.
So if its Christmas I would like to dial 0- 1200 amp 12 to 72 vdc� preferably one with a variant like ability ,one where I can tap up and down on the lab top.
In my day I probably could solder and glue some thing up but now a day no way.
Money is tight as I feeding to many generosities . Really need to get back on the making money thing again.
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Sent: January 20, 2019 7:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Szorenyi Rotary Engine Design
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Bart,
I love Wankels, learned to rebuild them when I was 16 out of necessity after my rx3 car seized.� That is an interesting rotary engine with the pivot rotors however there is a way to get compression without the eccentric shaft by adding an external compressor like in a turbine, this could be dial a compression ratio based on fuel type.� The Wankel is a no brainer for a diesel, not sure why this has not yet emerged as it would run cool enough to poss not have the fuel quenching issue.� The main issue with the Mazda's is the area of the combustion chamber with the cooling galleys running across it.� This causes a large thermal differential, quenching the raw fuel that gets ejected out the tailpipe.� Seems the rotary could be easily adapted to an implosion engine!
What did you find experimenting with HHO and the possibility of building an implosion engine?
Some serious lab issues...� DAMN... sorry to hear this.� Glad you did not get hurt or warehoused for blowing up Canada.�
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