Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto

Database ID: 112126
2019-02-09T18:41:49-06:00
Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

← View thread

Message-ID
In-Reply-To: <YTBPR01MB2448FFBCBBF08D5542D3B9F6CE6A0@YTBPR01MB2448.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Body

Bart, Man slow down.� Sounds like you have been smoking your crop. I 
would like to help you understand something, If I could figure out what 
you are tying to build?????

On 2/9/2019 1:51 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norman,
>
> ��������� I am trying to comprehend and envision your build with the 
> desired outcome.
> Once I was a millwright for a Hudson Bay store, once finished i had a 
> truck load of lexan� cuts.
> I used them up over the years . I made some vacuum sealed boxes and 
> had leads through for convenience.
> Perhaps the same could be done and inject a low value of a phosphorous 
> combination (aluminum, magnesium or what have you) in reference to
> have a visual on the charging vortex's� shape and desire of results on 
> input.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* February 9, 2019 11:17 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>
> Ole, take the time to watch this interesting presentation at the Royal 
> Institute. http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/66 
> <http://vega.org.uk/video/programme/66>
>
> On 2/9/2019 9:52 AM, [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> After reading about the Dotto ring it does look amazing. My belief is 
>> that the field given off by the ring is a powerful motional electric 
>> field (W.J. Hooper's research 
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm). This could explain the 
>> antigravity effect. According to Hooper the electrons move faster in 
>> hot metals than in cold metals. At constant current in cold 
>> conductors few electrons move at a high speed while in hot conductors 
>> many electrons move at low speed. As the magnetic field is determined 
>> by the current only there's no difference in its size because of the 
>> temperature of the conductor. But as the motional electric field is 
>> also determined by the speed of the charges this has great influence 
>> on the size of the motional electric field. As the Dotto ring has 
>> different temperatures along the ring this means decelerating the 
>> speed of the electrons which again means electromagnetic radiation as 
>> in antennas. Citing from the F. Gibson report 
>> (http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm):
>>
>> "These experiments show that the number of conduction electrons 
>> remains fairly constant at room temperatures and that the drift 
>> velocity increases linearly with the current. When resistance in the 
>> form of heat, carbon pile rheostat, or photo floods was added to the 
>> circuit, the number of conduction electrons decreased from that of 
>> room temperature and normal resistance while the drift velocity 
>> increased. At dry ice temperature and at low current, there were 
>> almost ten times as many conduction electrons moving, but moving very 
>> slowly, like cars on a crowded highway. As the amperage increased, 
>> the number of conduction electrons decreased rapidly, causing a 
>> greatly accelerated increase in the electron drift velocity. When AC 
>> current was put in the generator, it appeared that 3 to 4 times as 
>> many electrons were moving at low amperage as move under DC current 
>> at room temperature, but as with dry ice, when more electrons were 
>> moving, they were moving very slowly. By the time the amperage 
>> increased to 20 amps the number of electrons had decreased to almost 
>> the same number as with DC current at room temperature. From 20 to 30 
>> amps the number of electrons remained fairly constant. The electron 
>> drift velocity increased rapidly at low amperages and continued to 
>> increase but at a decreasing rate at higher amperages.
>>
>> These observations regarding electron drift velocity and number of 
>> conduction electrons would appear to be more consistent with current 
>> theory regarding gases, semiconductors, and semi-metals, than with 
>> the current theory for metals. If these findings are true, they would 
>> seem to indicate that the conductivity of a metal is related to the 
>> number of electrons in motion and their velocity, both of which 
>> change with temperature and resistance."
>>
>> Looking at Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device this also has 
>> variable motional fields as well as a conventional permanent magnetic 
>> field which is actually rotating like in motors and generators. The 
>> motional part is done by mechanical rotating the rippled discs which 
>> gives much higher speeds than the normal conduction speed of 
>> electrons in metals.
>>
>> In the Dotto paper is mentioned scalar waves which is an oxymoron as 
>> waves can't be scalars and vice versa. Waves have a time factor as 
>> well as a direction besides their size (scalar) which is varying too.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>> https://www.remedyspot.com/content/topic/1430589-dotto-ring/
>>
>> http://www.keelynet.com/biology/dotto.htm
>>
>> What is the Thompson Effect?
>>
>>
>>         One end of a copper rod is heated and the other is cooled. If
>>         the hot side is heated high enough, it will thermally
>>         increase the kinetic energy of the outer orbit electrons to a
>>         point where their kinetic energy (1/2 mv squared) will be
>>         greater than the work function and allow them to discharge
>>         into space. Due to the copper conductivity the electrons,
>>         instead of dissipating into the air, will shift in tremendous
>>         quantity toward the cool side in straight lines, following
>>         the heat propagation velocity. By reaction, excited electrons
>>         from the cool side will travel in the opposite direction at
>>         the speed of a particle (1/2 mv squared) toward the hot side
>>         encircling the copper rod by gyroscopic phenomenon and
>>         following the Fleming's rule. The product is very low voltage
>>         (few millivolts) as a resultant of the electrons traveling in
>>         circular motion. But, as in any electrical circuit, the EMF
>>         in the copper rod is governed by the Ohm's law (E/R=I), and
>>         will be in the range of several thousand amperes.
>>
>> Peltier Effect
>>
>>
>>         In a metal alloy bar (such as constantan, 60% Cu, 40% Ni) one
>>         end is heated and the other is maintained cold. When the hot
>>         end is heated enough, electrons of nickel and copper atoms
>>         become excited. The electrons of nickel force the electrons
>>         of coper to reverse orbital spinning (as described in Part
>>         1). By centripetal force electrons from the cool side shift
>>         toward the hot side. The hot side becomes negative in respect
>>         to the cold positive side, exactly opposite to the Thompson
>>         effect. Of course, the Thompson and the Peltier effects are
>>         temporary; they last only until the proportion between the
>>         cool and the hot side reaches the electrons numerical
>>         balance. Let's now combine the Thompson and Peltier effects
>>         together in the thermocouple fashion. In the Thompson effect
>>         the electrons move from the hot side toward the cold side.
>>
>> Ole, Hermes, I suggest a little pipe smoking time here and grasp the 
>> whole theory of operation.� Norm
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/2019 6:26 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771 Simple reading and
>>>     reading comprehension are totally different animals.� Please
>>>     read the Rex Research article to understand how the Dotto Ring
>>>     worked with the DNA of the body. My understanding of the ring
>>>     and counter flow of high amperage cyclic currents� within the
>>>     copper gave a scarlar effect in that there was partial magnetic
>>>     field cancellation and even possible reconnect phenomenon since
>>>     there was an emission of photon energy when in operation.� The
>>>     reason for my bringing up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as
>>>     to the possible reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was
>>>     very interested in the temperature differential causing the
>>>     anti-gravity effect just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we
>>>     get back into on of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG
>>>     effect.
>>>
>>>     On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Hermes,
>>>>
>>>>     "What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is
>>>>     added?"
>>>>     Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The
>>>>     reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power
>>>>     to capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when
>>>>     at resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in
>>>>     size to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This
>>>>     makes them cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.
>>>>
>>>>     >From Wikipedia:
>>>>     Lenz's law <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law> states
>>>>     that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a
>>>>     changing magnetic field
>>>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> is such that the
>>>>     magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the
>>>>     initial changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons
>>>>     third law
>>>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newtons_3rd_Law>
>>>>     of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law
>>>>     III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction:
>>>>     or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always
>>>>     equal, and directed to contrary parts."
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <hermesatar@...> <mailto:hermesatar@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     "Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000
>>>>     turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current
>>>>     through it?"
>>>>
>>>>     What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is
>>>>     added? Best Wishes, Hermes
>>>>
>>>>     Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> skrev:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000
>>>>     turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current
>>>>     through it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field is
>>>>     made.
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <wall_jakob@...> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr
>>>>     bar tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
>>>>     = 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a
>>>>     nice coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
>>>>     should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming
>>>>     the voltage to 115Volt
>>>>     Would be nice if it could be thru:
>>>>     --------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>             On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>             <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>             <[email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>>>>             To: "[email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>"
>>>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>             Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
>>>>             Norman
>>>>             couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
>>>>             description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
>>>>             speak.So,
>>>>             you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
>>>>             thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
>>>>             other to get a potential difference between the
>>>>             ends?You
>>>>             say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
>>>>             itself?
>>>>             A
>>>>             CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
>>>>             it.Butane,
>>>>             propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
>>>>             sunlight?Now
>>>>             lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a
>>>>             lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
>>>>             into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
>>>>             it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
>>>>             super charger on command?Pull
>>>>             you electric airplane out of a stall?What
>>>>             do we have here?Cheers
>>>>             Warren
>>>>             Sent
>>>>             from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>             On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
>>>>             AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>             [EVGRAY]<[email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>             wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
>>>>             Patent.
>>>>             https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>>>>             I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
>>>>             1/2 inch
>>>>             thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch� of pure
>>>>             copper bar stock
>>>>             into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
>>>>             end of ring
>>>>             with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
>>>>             CO2, measured
>>>>             the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
>>>>             using Ohms Law
>>>>             calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
>>>>             amps. You say
>>>>             , Flowing with open circuit of ring ends, the
>>>>             current flows one
>>>>             way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
>>>>             other end via
>>>>             the core conductivity. Really strange.� The
>>>>             bridge is made of
>>>>             material which will cause oscillations in the current
>>>>             flow of
>>>>             which I never built.� At least I did the
>>>>             experiment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             ...
>>>>
>

References

<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<YTBPR01MB2448FFBCBBF08D5542D3B9F6CE6A0@YTBPR01MB2448.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Headers

Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Sender [email protected]
X-Apparently-To [email protected]
X-Received (qmail 25089 invoked by uid 102); 10 Feb 2019 00:41:52 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.201.224.240) by m10.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2019 00:41:52 -0000
X-Received (qmail 4020 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2019 00:41:52 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (10.221.10.34) by mtaq2.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2019 00:41:52 -0000
X-Original-Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Received-SPF none (domain of att.net does not designate permitted sender hosts)
X-YMailISG Fg2tq6MWLDtlAuVxI7eo_R3cAO5CW3.Mz22f5xZKgDOgZ7ro 2VBbQ24mGJ2Gp8_w8DiHYozJmdcC4BnnRmAl.5H3.MtCbhHM1kUjvGPVXHig Ym43tejcavCj1yvp9WnED5vTJpBeo8j1LXvMK9B_JKH3Lk_w67aJz.IC6bcN JUOfSzyIazpMXds2me1k0wht.CV_mVKByFLuHHFIbLH4reX5DGv_R0qZ6wNz 40ASdC..BdIdOPYyq5W4hrcZeEpUD99hrihfRWHHcyLASM_wxwoXOC9DnXMW sem_alLnENeTkIFSqXh9dDGC50cPbcXsNge9kI5oc8cH2H5pbB7iTbOskPvH EgjuRWB84tF6Sb2E4E8KyXgpT0256rmdOWFlQfLYb_um93QxihUUF4bq4Q.T wAm5hKbrGTDHs.3A7f4LUVfcvAAKxtiQwpH_DSb12y6vCdgBTYL4EJnw12uC ZCoGSn28KQ39mBslRz8YzaAzK8YkxSY3LmumBKZoA9rdHDYUI_cQPwF6XoIG QlY7H6.w.aYVYaRJ6CO80gEVmZtGSG.o6zhQs_TPFgFgoxBoWy1cIY24LSyp tZWMFeTPtGkM0NUHXvG3JR2mgFlY8tNcDK9l9YFlBBJ28SCCw0imAitrL.F9 XpPkbK23zBbmpXdn6OM.Bs6Er25yaPET2Dhlmqod4pR4TvXKexSdDpyeHW6X Cfi2hLWgrfMePS.mdddxhWQytniLeKj2tnxXbiys9XcA58mwNr7yskXdBycu l3eLpkux2x2SoE9_5lBPmj8_XER0iFsyAoA3n0g7Yi0JJ332whqjUeRr_Gbw nDueS_0qn8QK.7rIWFp15TCPg7vY7BEfSgrQe82ktiVdkEyf8fJugzyEpC5S ZmfANGss2AqFAD1w4e.DuTs44cdczc45o8t_kLYw7sH7XtLzVPPgUMoANkr8 WMcsMiBwXtqflXWYoKA.D_ucgZhjwzBwR.klPchF5fm2.Y0zQ8HXqKczDfMj 3CHLBQGc4lsBKX9MSAnr9zEzTcJUrDG4ItvSoRDGX33RkCnb.7RswWuv3Cp9 lFdumGiLl8hefKMcN9FrpQAUYDvI1fnlfh095qGBGV5MX5rMIbDhdoUa83nG NoSqIUZdJaHodGpDNlThN1855h4TbH5jE1Ggm9TsUxyh8N4YwmTN_Z.5eUkh _Re9vaCY28YTXA5OXSp63hM67yLHifU_WzXSRYFKik8iDs0A7IQHfnlPp7VE _wQI4FkPs70ZXNREerf7lxx3DUMGzskCpr9880l4SpvOQxQYlNIYHjXUnAAi 2_ox6aoReFOgOWuzNYDbAgIUPf4TAPwYYZ5gQOoYEdAz7LL_v9PF8QRbiBVr WBWCGa_w3Dv3aU0Lgv9jsEgj2rdTTWigKlWMbXJVVUysmAr5CS4R2XnPmf7L zGF3c0MPLrmh_PH8XT73jSiVHIbCpB0sp0gNnCd.YI4hoAkMgew6G7U78qVb 01VR6r0nTjCW5bgvr_H8s0J0irjeLVmawkrb6wH4vd1HUJfXWTVOTkTL5QNb lURtvLYN0fHKK3rUe.XZJPcbkmB24OUoOKVVIg--
Authentication-Results mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [email protected]; header.s=s1024; dkim=pass (ok)
X-Received from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO sonic303-25.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (66.163.188.151) by mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:41:51 +0000
X-YMail-OSG kxjOGNUVM1mPc0L8H2X_nU_8tu1a0A3pNJRbxo9DFdsed443RuAd2upCtVEb2Eu tK5IdV2v6EX.f9IEzq7IlFC_WXt6TulbHIIvPwrzOBqdT.6ZNOmPpMCwS4J8K9zlNTffmYziPPVx BPk0XyFD5Uo0Dpr.a1JHat8Lq3v_wQ0o3VxrzDpLwu8q3m6tq_5nR2FF6EHn_ea28b3DKHyzJneB UX6QUV9V3nkGTIekcXQBltNP1gAfATEf7QFXvaXzeTYDUQwXWplkIx_CPGPFqnH.fOa7GureQDvB LgVJOXlZKcw0J8yRoTqK8sComWGzFiQQjG9oh2KAoB67hNSKAZj7f1XLDjDHE4QwG9sktEbYATqi YJIG7dmnpnH47.4UAhsCSydl_e7LaxynobkhfZmfK4taZ2En44RTXn4tCvgCeBNgeQInRwQnU8f6 25RmsW3uWvf_PGf68Y_pouQiaD_OsKi450TzWguN_smqkFznXM6IDkJ8l2BBmVlPE_X4MCw_2vr8 iTkgxyDR.wQ5PmgT3tsgN4aDubF.LVDRUWIu8hQZqTU1xoLhhGKtfoQJlXx.0AuEpQCff03WEa3W dNB0T67n6zeOfFyrecm4JjBQa7_deS9AuF3YHUOMJF1VE1NYucS9RApv9N510wl3c6qoMAqkDYjD JWCB.d0Eo4UKXSwowDApMpYn8yASKzzAofo7JnLT31wCrV9FPAlK9siArPAtzbz8Q1IV_Od9jm0C 5Wd9EYooY7Mp_rFfT9UxigUNDPYZV2VN6FdfaPjbA5CXTaez0wL6_T5K7XDzfL_oNDzzE0uuuMSk gKnGdLe9pLv8dT5V8aC9.gi1vTgZbpxB37psUdN2ehvd_joaWL3p9bmXNBjD_jzcl1X4s8m4nfZC 9LhxTvh365YGqF30O8euBdsOJVzfuzve.lTbBymqYjzvbx_O38eF3SWX4Q2WWJQ_kqVSdLxymuA7 5V17gfYi5_Wx2BB02YVNEdCmIJZIJbBPFwUKE_zeCrOKQU9x4Y7Q24hjmi8lt2VYO.hEg6FVrq9C NeEZld.Yiy_IgWCS9FAaa6kl67PnbjtzIJGc9hvopN_5cpDcZ0IBQvti6ZYkkW3G6HxzH
X-Received from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:41:51 +0000
X-Received from ip70-189-27-193.lf.br.cox.net (EHLO [192.168.0.5]) ([70.189.27.193]) by smtp412.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b9fa4bd78e4404ee5d607b2d42732108 for <[email protected]>; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 00:41:50 +0000 (UTC)
To [email protected]
References <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <YTBPR01MB2448FFBCBBF08D5542D3B9F6CE6A0@YTBPR01MB2448.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Date Sat, 09 Feb 2019 18:41:49 -0600
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0
MIME-Version 1.0
In-Reply-To <YTBPR01MB2448FFBCBBF08D5542D3B9F6CE6A0@YTBPR01MB2448.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Content-Type multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FD6A9844C4B980B679BDB533"
Content-Language en-US
X-Originating-IP 10.221.10.34
Subject Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
X-Yahoo-Group-Post member; u=554418533; y=CY7bXEe5Hd5VQdM7vfDS0-r6_kvrpNIbJEYURs3mSr9dFmV4WmC1iL6L
X-Yahoo-Profile [email protected]
From Norman Wootan <[email protected]>