Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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If you have any interest in Plasma Research, this is an absolute Must 
Read doc.

http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf

On 2/5/2019 6:45 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Thank You Art for contributing to this ongoing dialog on Plasma 
> Physics and the exciting findings achieved by some heavy weight 
> researchers into the Magnetic Flux Annihilation-Reconnect Phenomenon. 
> We learn more every week since this is a current subject.   Norm
>
> On 2/5/2019 5:01 PM, Arthur Devine wrote:
>>
>> Greetings all from Art Devine,
>>
>> Bert Pool’s  astute comments of 1/1/2019  #1-5 are right on track as 
>> I see it.
>>
>> Just as certain elements are selectively tailored to coerce magnetic 
>> fields to attract or repel locally, Gravitational waves, “like boiled 
>> spaghetti” are everywhere between known matter in the universe.  
>>  Never forget that space is always infinite and there is no such 
>> thing as time until there is matter and it’s chaos we intend to deal 
>> with.  Time is just a local  term for “when”
>>
>> on our planet only.  String theory is not theory.  It is evidence of 
>> gravitational repulsion between objects in nearby and intergalactic 
>> space.  Any comet with a tail repelling our sun is negative matter.
>>
>> It’s the only reason any comet like Haley’s returning gets ever more 
>> distant each time.
>>
>> The “solar wind” is negative matter repelling the sun that created 
>> it.  Our volcanoes repel tons of it _trapped in our primordial mass_.
>>
>> We will simply never get buried in any matter having positive 
>> electrons.   Art
>>
>> *From:*Norman Wootan [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2019 7:45 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]; Art Devine; Ben Smith; Bert Pool; Bob 
>> Paddock; joel mcclain; Lane Wootan; Mbking42; Steven Elswick; Walt; 
>> Toby Grotz; Angel Alvarez; Fredric Fletcher; Jeane Manning; Jon 
>> Gentry; Phil Rembold
>> *Subject:* Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when 
>> Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY
>>
>> Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass
>>
>> http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass Now we know how Warren 
>> gets from Canada to New Zealand.  Lol
>>
>> =============================================================================== 
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>>
>> Message 4192                                   DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33
>> From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED --
>> To     : NORMAN WOOTAN
>> Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor
>> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>> I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it
>> turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as
>> such, and labelled them.  Later, he invented the graduated and
>> calibrated compass!  Wonder why history has all but forgotten him?
>> I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it?
>> CUL
>> Joel
>> =============================================================================== 
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Must read!!!
>>
>> http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf
>>
>> On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic 
>> fields.  Please review.
>>
>> On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
>>
>> 1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming 
>> out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated.  You 
>> can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk 
>> generates a current. I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet 
>> are stationary, even if the magnet rotates!  The magnet has to be 
>> there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of 
>> flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the 
>> magnet.  Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux.  
>> To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but 
>> instead they align and condense _magnetic flux that is already in 
>> that space_.
>>
>> 2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of 
>> flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every 
>> possible north/south polarity.  Think of space as filled with a mass 
>> of boiled spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines.  
>> Since these lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum 
>> values of all the flux in any one spot averages to zero.  But, when 
>> you place a chunk of special metal (we call it a magnet) into that 
>> space, it bends and aligns these random flux lines all into the same 
>> direction and polarity.  A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, 
>> it brings order and coherence to the mass of field lines that already 
>> exist in that space surrounding the magnet.  Think of it as taking 
>> that mass of bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it 
>> out into nice, neat straight aligned fields.
>>
>> 3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, 
>> while others do not?  I don't think anyone has a good answer to 
>> that.  For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt.  
>> Aluminum is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico 
>> magnet to work?
>>
>> 4)  If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that 
>> sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of 
>> appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are 
>> there other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of 
>> magnetic flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to 
>> zero, but would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were 
>> constructed which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making 
>> them evident.  For example, it could be that gravity fields cross 
>> through space from all directions and with random orientations and 
>> normally sum to zero.  If I place you into space a few billion miles 
>> from anything else, will you experience "gravity"?  No.  But place a 
>> suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would 
>> align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we 
>> can percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field.  
>> Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is 
>> called "matter." Some alloys work better at aligning and 
>> concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal 
>> alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux 
>> lines.  Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others.  
>> Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others 
>> (i.e., styrofoam versus lead.)
>>
>> 5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which 
>> perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space 
>> that permant magnets do.  It might very well be possible that 
>> producing a gravitational analog is possible.  Of course, the 
>> question becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of 
>> energy would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity?  And 
>> perhaps not only gravity.  There could be other kinds of energy that 
>> fills space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable 
>> nearby "magnet."  Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example.
>>
>> Bert
>>
>> On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>>
>>     https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html
>>
>>
>>     https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/
>>
>>
>>     https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds
>>     This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in
>>     NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY.
>>
>>     See 33432 at attachments    Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT,
>>     negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot.
>>
>>     See InTech at attachments
>>
>>     https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire
>>
>>
>>     https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current
>>
>>
>>     https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction
>>
>>
>>     https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current
>>
>>
>>     Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate
>>     the color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from
>>     the U.S. Navy days gone by.   When I went through DeVry School in
>>     1953, I learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white
>>
>>     was the hot wire. U.S. Navy.  Remember when General motors used a
>>     POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as
>>     did the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem.  We had
>>     to be careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a
>>     Chevy from a Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity.  Gee.  The
>>     salt used on the roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol
>>
>>

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