Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto

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Warren,

Thanks for the lucidity. As with patents there is always something
more.  Why would the unit vibrate at the proper length?  It must be
phase locking to some other RF vibration or earth flux field else all
size rings would vibrate.

On 2/8/2019 9:02 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Norman
>
> Now let us try to put this in layman's terms.Simple ones.
> I start to get a glimmer of understanding, when the patent speaks of
> tuning the resistor metal length. Stainless steel is a crappy
> conductor, compared to copper. There might be worse conducting metals,
> but off hand, I am not sure.
> It is spoken of using resistance coils to heat the one end
> Well, off the bat, we know how to improve that problem, perhaps, if it
> wln't interfere with those cyclic whatevers.
> Lets use our cheap and cheery 12 volt induction furnace we got from
> China, to be used for the Tesla pan cake coil tests!
> Cooling? OKAY. HEY! Wait a minute,
> What does a refrigeration compressor do?
> My heat pump takes from A, and delivers to B. It is all about heat
> differential.
> Now, we know that heat pumps are over unity, saving perhaps two thirds
> the energy required to heat, using resistance elements.
> Hmmmm?
> Okay, so then we have a turnbuckle or screw adjustment made out of a
> crappy conducting metal joining the two open ends of the not quite
> continuous ring made of copper, until by getting just the right
> length, it starts to vibrate when one end is heated, and the other cooled.
> How about the pay off? We are trying to get energy out of this ring
> that is supposed to be there.
> How do we tap into the ring?
> Running the compressor makes one end hot, and the other end cold, one
> end the condenser, the other wrapped with an evaporator coil.
> Can we use our induction coil to start the rig on 12 volts dc, with
> battery, then drive the 12 volt compressor with the power drawn from
> the ring?
> Norman. Where would you draw the power from this oscillating ring?
> Now, the magical thing about all of this, is that it is all off the
> shelf now, and free of any stinking patents, for all of us to make and
> use.
> If it, indeed, works.
> This is a public forum, and it has all been publically disclosed, so
> lurkers can just suck eggs regarding getting some frigging monopoly on
> concepts here.
> The original patent has timed out, and is now also public....Just to
> be clear to all.
> Trouble is, can it in fact be done, and will it work?
> As always, it is the bench that proves, or disproves, whether
> something is practical or not.
> Someone once said  "build it, and they will come" Rude connotations
> aside, maybe they will, with fresh underwear.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 7:27 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
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>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771    Simple reading and
>     reading comprehension are totally different animals.  Please read
>     the Rex Research article to understand how the Dotto Ring worked
>     with the DNA of the body. My understanding of the ring and counter
>     flow of high amperage cyclic currents  within the copper gave a
>     scarlar effect in that there was partial magnetic field
>     cancellation and even possible reconnect phenomenon since there
>     was an emission of photon energy when in operation.  The reason
>     for my bringing up of the Dotto Ring was to alert you as to the
>     possible reconnect phenomenon here in this device. I was very
>     interested in the temperature differential causing the
>     anti-gravity effect just as Walter Russel had mentioned. Here we
>     get back into on of my pet theory of ionization causing the AG effect.
>
>     On 2/7/2019 5:32 PM, [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Hermes,
>>
>>     "What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is added?"
>>     Nothing will happen to Lenz's law by adding capacitors. The
>>     reactive part of the power can be shifted from inductive power to
>>     capacitive power or simply cancel the inductive power when at
>>     resonance. At resonance the inductive reactance is equal in size
>>     to the capacitive reactance but of opposite sign. This makes them
>>     cancel to leave only the resistive part of the circuit.
>>
>>     From Wikipedia:
>>     Lenz's law <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law> states
>>     that the direction of the current induced in a conductor by a
>>     changing magnetic field
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> is such that the
>>     magnetic field created by the induced current opposes the initial
>>     changing magnetic field. This is similar to Newtons third law
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newtons_3rd_Law>
>>     of motion in physics when talking about motion of bodies: "Law
>>     III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction:
>>     or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always
>>     equal, and directed to contrary parts."
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <hermesatar@...> <mailto:hermesatar@...> wrote :
>>
>>     "Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000
>>     turns for a winding and then send one or more amps of current
>>     through it?"
>>
>>     What happens with Lenz Law in an inductor if a capacitor is
>>     added? Best Wishes, Hermes
>>
>>     Den torsdag 7 februari 2019 15:28:28 CET, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> skrev:
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Wouldn't it be easier and more energy efficient to use 1000 turns
>>     for a winding and then send one or more amps of current through
>>     it? That way at least a thousand amps magnetic field is made.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <wall_jakob@...> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> wrote :
>>
>>     In canada its probably good enought just to stick the copperr bar
>>     tru the wall, -23 outsiide, +22 inside
>>     = 55 Degree difference, here you go. Don't forget to wind a nice
>>     coil around the rod. ''Thousends of amps''
>>     should be enough to induce 30 amps 115volt after transforming the
>>     voltage to 115Volt
>>     Would be nice if it could be thru:
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>
>>             On Sun, 2/3/19, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>             <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY]
>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Patent, Dotto
>>             To: "[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             Received: Sunday, February 3, 2019, 7:58
>>             Norman
>>             couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your
>>             description of the ring experiment was cool, so to
>>             speak.So,
>>             you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2"
>>             thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the
>>             other to get a potential difference between the
>>             ends?You
>>             say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest
>>             itself?
>>             A
>>             CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want
>>             it.Butane,
>>             propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated
>>             sunlight?Now
>>             lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a
>>             lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy,
>>             into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can
>>             it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's
>>             super charger on command?Pull
>>             you electric airplane out of a stall?What
>>             do we have here?Cheers
>>             Warren
>>             Sent
>>             from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>             On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 8:25
>>             AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>             [EVGRAY]<[email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             wrote:
>>              
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>>             Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this
>>             Patent. 
>>             https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>>             I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X
>>             1/2 inch
>>             thick X 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure
>>             copper bar stock
>>             into the familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one
>>             end of ring
>>             with butane flame and cooling other end with liquid
>>             CO2, measured
>>             the millivolt differential of the ring ends and ,
>>             using Ohms Law
>>             calculated a flowing current of several thousands of
>>             amps. You say
>>             , Flowing with open circuit of ring ends,  the
>>             current flows one
>>             way on the surface of the copper and returns to the
>>             other end via
>>             the core conductivity.   Really strange.  The
>>             bridge is made of
>>             material which will cause oscillations in the current
>>             flow of
>>             which I never built.  At least I did the
>>             experiment.
>>
>>
>>
>>             ...
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