Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when

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NormanAbout as close to being in the Navy is when we rented the Canadian Oberon class sub Onandaga, for the Neptune Factor, a film with Ernest Borgnine and Walter Pidgeon, made back in the early seventies.My boat building, and sailing, were learned by reading, and then doing, with night school navigation, and ham courses, but no navy.Military is a huge presence in American lives, we just don't have in Canada.Well, not entirely true. A lot of really terrific people moved North, during Vietnam, mostly artists, craftsmen, and small business types, and university students.So in effect, we learned of the negative effect it often had in people's lives, rather than education, and travel, that working class kids would not get unless through the military.Vietnam was a trip to the meat grinder, and exposure to bad drugs, for many kids.And yet, video games! It is an addiction.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 7:46 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Thank You Art for contributing to this ongoing dialog on Plasma Physics and the exciting findings achieved by some heavy weight researchers into the Magnetic Flux Annihilation-Reconnect Phenomenon. We learn more every week since this is a current subject.   Norm
 
 On 2/5/2019 5:01 PM, Arthur Devine wrote:
  
  
Greetings all from Art Devine,
 
Bert Pool’s  astute comments of 1/1/2019  #1-5 are right on track as I see it.
 
Just as certain elements are selectively tailored to coerce magnetic fields to attract or repel locally,  Gravitational waves, “like boiled spaghetti” are everywhere between known matter in the universe.   Never forget that space is always infinite and there is no such thing as time until there is matter and it’s chaos we intend to deal with.  Time is just a local  term for “when”  
 
on our planet only.  String theory is not theory.  It is evidence of gravitational repulsion between objects in nearby and intergalactic space.  Any comet with a tail repelling our sun is negative matter. 
 
It’s the only reason any comet like Haley’s returning gets ever more distant each time.
 
The “solar wind” is negative matter repelling the sun that created it.  Our volcanoes repel tons of it trapped in our primordial mass.
 
  
 
We will simply never get buried in any matter having positive electrons.   Art
 
  
   
From: Norman Wootan [mailto:[email protected]] 
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 Subject: Re: Magnetic fields and stuff gets interesting when Einstein gets envolved. RELATIVITY
   
  
 
Mick, let us not forget this guy that was lost in the history of magnets.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Peregrinus_de_Maricourt
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_compass
 
http://www.thefullwiki.org/Magnetic_compass       Now we know how Warren gets from Canada to New Zealand.  Lol
 
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 From   : JOEL MCCLAIN                       -- RECEIVED -- 
 To     : NORMAN WOOTAN 
 Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor 
 Folder : A, "Public Mail" 
 
 Hi Norm, 
 I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it 
 turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as 
 such, and labelled them.  Later, he invented the graduated and 
 calibrated compass!  Wonder why history has all but forgotten him? 
 I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it? 
 CUL 
 Joel 
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On 2/4/2019 8:42 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
Must read!!!
 
http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/Cranks/Johnson%20-%20The%20secret%20world%20of%20magnets.pdf
  
On 2/4/2019 5:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
  
 
Back on new years day, Bert gave an excellent explanation of magnetic fields.  Please review.
  
On 1/1/2019 9:20 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
  
1) Faraday generator experiments show that the magnetic field coming out of a magnet pole does NOT rotate when the magnet is rotated.  You can glue a Faraday disk to the magnet and rotate both and the disk generates a current.  I.e., the lines of force surrounding the magnet are stationary, even if the magnet rotates!  The magnet has to be there to align the flux lines and concentrate them, but the lines of flux are part and parcel of space and do not originate with the magnet.  Think of the magnet as a necessary "catalyst" for the flux.  To me, this shows that magnets do NOT produce a magnetic field, but instead they align and condense magnetic flux that is already in that space.
 
2) I visualize space as being filled with billions and billions of flux lines all coming from every possible direction and every possible north/south polarity.  Think of space as filled with a mass of boiled spaghetti, representing a chaotic mixture of flux lines.  Since these lines are completely random as to polarity, the sum values of all the flux in any one spot averages to zero.  But, when you place a chunk of special metal (we call it a magnet) into that space, it bends and aligns these random flux lines all into the same direction and polarity.  A magnet does not produce a magnetic field, it brings order and coherence to the mass of field lines that already exist in that space surrounding the magnet.  Think of it as taking that mass of bent, twisted and random spaghetti and straightening it out into nice, neat straight aligned fields.
 
3) Why do certain metal combinations affect magnetic lines of flux, while others do not?  I don't think anyone has a good answer to that.  For example, Alnico magnets are made of aluminum and cobalt.  Aluminum is non-magnetic, so why is aluminum required for an alnico magnet to work?  
 
4)  If space is filled with a random mass of magnetic flux lines that sum to zero, and are only evident to us as observers when a mass of appropriate metal alloy (a magnet) is present, then I wonder are there other kinds of flux filling space, somewhat like lines of magnetic flux, that are not apparent to us because they too sum to zero, but would appear if only a different kind of "magnet" were constructed which aligns those other non-magnetic fields, thus making them evident.  For example, it could be that gravity fields cross through space from all directions and with random orientations and normally sum to zero.  If I place you into space a few billion miles from anything else, will you experience "gravity"?  No.  But place a suitable piece of properly made alloy into that space, and it would align and concentrate those lines of gravitational flux so that we can percieve this new thing we might call a gravitational field.  Fortunately, the alloy for gravitational flux already exists, and is called "matter."  Some alloys work better at aligning and concentrating gravitational flux lines, just as different metal alloys differ in their ability to align and concentrate magnetic flux lines.  Some kinds of metals work better as magnets than others.  Some kinds of mass work better as gravity concentrators than others (i.e., styrofoam versus lead.)
 
5) Magnetic field lines can be affected by electrical coils, which perform the same alignment and concentration of flux lines in space that permant magnets do.  It might very well be possible that producing a gravitational analog is possible.  Of course, the question becomes, what would the "coil" be made of, and what kind of energy would flow through it to align and concentrate gravity?  And perhaps not only gravity.  There could be other kinds of energy that fills space and sums to zero without the presence of a suitable nearby "magnet."  Dark energy comes to mind as a possible example.
 
Bert 
  
On 2/5/2019 9:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 

 https://www.physics-and-radio-electronics.com/electronic-devices-and-circuits/semiconductor/intrinsic-semiconductor/electron-and-hole-current.html 
 
 https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-2/electrons-and-holes/ 
 
 https://www.quora.com/How-does-one-explain-electricity-at-relativistic-speeds This is absolutely a great dissertation on my main interest in NEGATIVE ELECTRICITY. 
 
 See 33432 at attachments    Remember my paper on WHAT is HEAT, negative Ions = cold, positive Ions = hot. 
 
 See InTech at attachments 
 
 https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/71099/relativity-and-current-in-wire 
 
 https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/ee-conventional-current 
 
 https://www.khanacademy.org/science/electrical-engineering/introduction-to-ee/intro-to-ee/v/current-direction 
 
 https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/v/magnetism-6-magnetic-field-due-to-current 
 
 Warren, You are an Old Navy Salt, Sailor, whom will appreciate the color coding of conductors by the Marine Industry, taken from the U.S. Navy days gone by.   When I went through DeVry School in 1953, I learned that Black was common ground in a circuit and white 
 
 was the hot wire. U.S. Navy.  Remember when General motors used a POSITIVE ground on their cars and Ford had a NEGATIVE ground as did the U.S. Navy to prevent the electroylisis problem.  We had to be careful when using battery cables trying to jump start a Chevy from a Ford battery, cause of opposite polarity.  Gee.  The salt used on the roads up North ate up the fenders of Chevys. Lol 
 
 
 
 
  
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