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> On 3/31/2017 7:40 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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>> On 3/31/2017 7:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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>>> The answer is in the vortices that are generated As in tornadoes,
>>> ionization occurs at micro level! Schauberger's Repulsine device
>>> worked this way and produced AG effect!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2017 7:18 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> So someone had reason to think that it was a beetle that was the
>>>> mystery insect and this is a close up of a structure that is
>>>> uncovered and changes angle during flight:
>>>> Inline image 1
>>>> I am not sure who found this and I forget the supporting details,
>>>> but there is a good reason to think that's it, but now I am going
>>>> to try and explain how and why it works.
>>>> So we could sum this up as a bunch of cones shooting energy through
>>>> circular holes.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, now I want to take what will seem like a funny unconnected turn
>>>> and point out the work of James Cornwell:
>>>> http://rexresearch.com/cornwell/cornwell.htm
>>>>
>>>> So he made a device that seems to disrupt electronics to a point
>>>> that seem mysterious and the radiation passes through Faraday
>>>> cages, so this is aetheric energy, we could say "radiant energy:.
>>>>
>>>> If we look at the design of his device, he uses a magnetron that is
>>>> powered in an unbalanced manner (I would expect that to output
>>>> aetheric energy), and then this radiation passed through
>>>> transparent electropositive and electronegitive transparent
>>>> windows. What I have found from my own research is that is what I
>>>> term "neutral" aether energy passes through a transparent charged
>>>> film, it is changed by that.
>>>> Tesla made a radiant energy receiver which was a large plate
>>>> covered in a special transparent coating.
>>>>
>>>> The wire in Edwin's tube are coated in Teflon which is the most
>>>> strongly known electronegative material.
>>>> I also want to point out this:
>>>> http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html <A transparent force
>>>> wall from highly charged moving cling film.
>>>>
>>>> So we want to send energy through a transparent material, but is
>>>> there another way?
>>>>
>>>> Well it turns out you can make a window with aetheric energy, this
>>>> can be done in either a cylinder, or a plane, if a cylinder and
>>>> there is an aether vortex going on, the "ghost" of that cylinder
>>>> rotates such that there is "energy" from the solid parts of the
>>>> cylinder where the windows are.
>>>> With a plane (flat surface not the 'aero type'), an aetheric
>>>> radiation that occurs in the plane and focuses in the center.
>>>>
>>>> So, where is this window method used?
>>>>
>>>> Paul Baumann and Edwin Gray both used holes in cylinders and plates
>>>> for this reason I believe, they condition energies that are emitted
>>>> through the windows.
>>>>
>>>> But this is where we run into another group of devices.
>>>>
>>>> So there was this guy in this field who went by the handle DMBoss,
>>>> he experimented with a discovery that others have researched which
>>>> is an energy beam that occurs with magnets placed on tubes of noble
>>>> gas, anyway he also did other experiments and while I forget all
>>>> the details of the experiment, this one experiment he told me
>>>> about, he had a large pancake coil with a hole in the middle and it
>>>> was suspended, at some point with no conventional cause it just
>>>> suddenly started swinging. It was a one off as such, but I will
>>>> now explore several similar things!
>>>>
>>>> Next is Jeff Cook, he make a coil that while not quite a pancake as
>>>> it is long as well as wide the effect still occurs, it also has the
>>>> kind of asymmetry that effects the aether, this was given an
>>>> impulse of power that could apparently bend flames, and when Tim
>>>> Ventura of the site "American Antigravity" tested it, this thing
>>>> sent out a beam that killed the piezo starters in a distant gas
>>>> cook top. Basically gravity like impulses occurred.
>>>>
>>>> Next, is Ronald Stiffler who made a device that created an impulse
>>>> that moved bits of paper and might have bent a laser beam a bit, it
>>>> consisted of one large and one smaller iron toroid wrapped in a
>>>> copper coil. Again there is asymmetry and the larger fatter toroid
>>>> is again very thick.
>>>>
>>>> Next is Morton L. Morton, he made a series of experiment where a
>>>> Van de Graff is induced somehow to discharge through a glass tube
>>>> to a large aluminium plate with a hole in the center, this caused
>>>> the emission of a repulsive or attractive force depending on finer
>>>> details.
>>>>
>>>> Next is Podkletnov who after his spinning superconductor success
>>>> did a seriously suped up version of the Morton experiment, his
>>>> impulses were incomparably stronger, the details are more exotic
>>>> but the structure is similar to a combo of Morton, Stiffler and
>>>> Jeff Cook's device.
>>>>
>>>> Next is Howard Menger, I will describe a hybrid device that is a
>>>> combo of his early experiment and his later experiment for
>>>> simplicity, take a large circular aluminium disk with a hole in the
>>>> center, put a carbon rod wrapped with a copper coil around the rod,
>>>> apply a pulse from a battery (a modest 1.5v cell from a flash
>>>> light). This resulted in a huge thrusting up of the aluminium
>>>> plate that broke through his ceiling.
>>>> He actually could not fully replicate his early success without
>>>> making a seriously more built up version which involved more coils
>>>> and more power, but he was apparently able to replicate the results
>>>> to create an antigravity craft.
>>>>
>>>> Next, we will change thing a bit and look at the "capwarp":
>>>> http://amasci.com/caps/capwarp.html
>>>> This device creates a thrust, it was replicated successfully by 2-3
>>>> people, one using the pages of a book as the dielectric and pasting
>>>> tin coil circles and connecting strips on the pages. Each layer
>>>> again influences the space through the center, flow through the
>>>> center happens due to both a rotational effect that occurs and
>>>> possible having a positive on one end and negative on the other.
>>>>
>>>> Next is Doyle, this was in the Rex Research paper infolios but not
>>>> online I don't think, it was a large circular capacitor that lost
>>>> weight, no matter if the positive or negative was up. it was just
>>>> a science fare project. He used Styrofoam as the dielectric.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so now have you watched the "fluxliner" documentary? If not I
>>>> HIGHLY recommend it!
>>>> The construction there and this is an "Alien Reproduction Vehicle"
>>>> is a large capacitor the size of the saucer craft, the capacitor is
>>>> in segments like the cap warp with a hole in the middle, it also
>>>> has a coil the energy also goes through. Glass dielectric.
>>>>
>>>> The guy who made the documentary was assassinated, but in another
>>>> version some report to have seen an extra detail given, about a guy
>>>> in university who made a circular HV capacitor with glass
>>>> dielectric, it lost all weight.
>>>>
>>>> I myself can vouch that this segmented approach is powerful.
>>>>
>>>> If we look at moving through the center of such a capacitor, we
>>>> would see a series of positive and negative planes (plates),
>>>> alternating positive negative. Much like Cornwell's transparent
>>>> windows!
>>>> In addition while a plane creates a much stronger energy that just
>>>> a ring, Hamel and Searl and even Otis T. Car would qualify, Searl
>>>> has 3 concentric rings in the same plane, and Hamel as 2 concentric
>>>> rings but stacked 3 in series and another large ring magnet below that.
>>>>
>>>> To some extent all you need is a circle (a loop), it's just that
>>>> the more you have the more extreme the "window".
>>>>
>>>> The biggest question is how the different types of "window" change
>>>> the effects of the energy that goes through, a capacitor and a coil
>>>> or a neutral object are all very different and likely relate to
>>>> different effects on the energy that goes through the window.
>>>>
>>>> Also my theory is that the window is about picking up energies or
>>>> qualities, but it is possible that it is about filtering out
>>>> energies or qualities, or about changing energies of what moves
>>>> through it.
>>>>
>>>> But I think this is the basis of the bugs secret, and a powerful
>>>> secret of aetheric energy, this allows energy to be variously
>>>> conditioned.
>>>>
>>>> John
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>>>> John Berry
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>>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>> John! I would love to read your ideas and theory and will also
>>>> share my ideas as to how "flight" actually works. I'm 79 now
>>>> and have been at this since my childhood since I grew up around
>>>> aircraft. My Dad had two and I would wash airplanes just for a
>>>> ride. (Late 40s). Norm
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>>>>
>>>> On 3/31/2017 2:43 PM, John Berry [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Norm, yes I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I think I know what was going on with the insects, I think
>>>>> I might know the shape and how it worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can write it up, but I just need to know you want to read
>>>>> it, It might be a little long, it makes a decent case.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> John Berry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John! regarding the "shimmer/invisibility", see this:
>>>>> Viktor Stepanovich Grebennikov --- naturalist and a
>>>>> professional entomologist. He is also an artist and an
>>>>> intellectual with a wide range of interests and pursuits.
>>>>> He is known to many as the discoverer of the Cavity
>>>>> Structures Effect (CSE). But very few people are familiar
>>>>> with his other discovery, the one that also borrows from
>>>>> Nature and its innermost secrets. He has discovered
>>>>> antigravitational effects of the chitin shell of certain
>>>>> insects back in 1988 but, the most impressive concomitant
>>>>> phenomenon he has discovered at the same time was that of
>>>>> complete or partial invisibility and/or of distorted
>>>>> perception of material objects entering the zone of
>>>>> compensated gravity. Based on this discovery, Victor
>>>>> Grebennikov used bionic principles to design and build an
>>>>> anti-gravitational platform for hovering flights at the
>>>>> speeds of up to 25 km/min. Since 1991-92 he has used this
>>>>> device for his own fast transportation.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Zone of compensated gravity"????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/28/2017 7:24 PM, John Berry [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, I'll keep each account down to it's bare bone
>>>>>> details. It is of course worth noting that none of this
>>>>>> stuff has stellar evidence, you either believe the
>>>>>> account or you don't, it is only in the consistency that
>>>>>> a real degree of credibility arises.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Big generator, suddenly unloaded. A report I heard from a
>>>>>> guy who heard it from a guy, in a power station a
>>>>>> generator, I want to say it was a Westinghouse, when it
>>>>>> was pulled offline suddenly (but it's still generating)
>>>>>> it began to shimmer and disappear, apparently it had been
>>>>>> seen before but it wasn't talked about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An account on Keelynet, hmmm, I just realized I included
>>>>>> this one under accounts of invisibility of iron, but it
>>>>>> was iron that made non-iron this disappear anyway this
>>>>>> guy who "Knew what he was doing" stole 5 large
>>>>>> transformers, put them in a circle, put a goat and other
>>>>>> things to test it out, they disappeared, then he got in
>>>>>> the circle and disappeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, this one now I think about it is also "different", an
>>>>>> account that I heard in connection to another account
>>>>>> actually, but it involved a guy who on trying to conduct
>>>>>> electricity through a gel with iron particles found
>>>>>> himself displaced in time or something, I think it was
>>>>>> mentioned in connection with another account I didn't
>>>>>> include in my count of a "Joe Cell" like device (Proton
>>>>>> Cell) that was powerd by an inusual generator and
>>>>>> possible a spark gap, and this cell made for some
>>>>>> displacements in time also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now forget the guys name, but on the Art Bell radio
>>>>>> show, a guy rang in and rang back a few times I think
>>>>>> (not sure I listened first hand to much of it), he wound
>>>>>> a high voltage transformer like an NST, and when he threw
>>>>>> (I assume steel) screws near the HV arc they would
>>>>>> vanish. Screws have a right handed helix, so that should
>>>>>> attract the electron type energy. The transformer he
>>>>>> specified was "scramble wound" not neatly wound, i have
>>>>>> found such winding's especially if the degree of chaos
>>>>>> varies (starts neat, gets messy) to create a lot of
>>>>>> aetheric energy, and they can pull energy in too, perhaps
>>>>>> from the spark gap creating a feedback cycle of aetheric
>>>>>> energy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Beaty's weird science site has had feedback from
>>>>>> people who have got weird results from experiments, one
>>>>>> tells about a guy took some amplifier or something,
>>>>>> hooked it up to a steel loop (the kind that would come
>>>>>> with rabbit ears something, with 90 degree bends leading
>>>>>> into and out of the loop (which I have found to be a
>>>>>> powerful aetheric effect if the 2 sides are imbalanced
>>>>>> somehow), into which he dangled a paper clip on cotton,
>>>>>> the paper clip vanished and when he reversed the
>>>>>> connection to the loop it re-appeared. In might have been
>>>>>> enveloped in a blue glow? (if you look you will find the
>>>>>> account)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a friend in Canada, I think he said that he
>>>>>> witnessed this, or maybe it happened to his friends, they
>>>>>> took a steel coat hanger and shorted out a car battery,
>>>>>> it turned red, then white, then started to shimmer and
>>>>>> vanish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know Rex Research, well there was another group in
>>>>>> New Zealand (maybe it was Australia) called Lost Tech
>>>>>> Archives IIRC, I never bought any of their stuff (this
>>>>>> was back before Rex Research put stuff online for free)
>>>>>> as I had opted out of paying any money for more info but
>>>>>> some stuff I got for free, or was it the catalog? Or a
>>>>>> free first copy? Well one of the things was a newspaper
>>>>>> clipping of a guy who way way back, I'm going to guess
>>>>>> the 50's at the earliest, who had a suit with steel coils
>>>>>> that made him invisible. Another thing they also had was
>>>>>> a guy who made a vacuum tube device that created rays
>>>>>> that caused things to lose weight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Gerry Vassalito's 2 books on Tesla and cold wars
>>>>>> secrets, he talk about how arc welders would find steel
>>>>>> tools vanish, and finally they realized that emissions
>>>>>> from the arcs were doing this. This was probably peculiar
>>>>>> to the technology used in the day. As William Lyne
>>>>>> points out in his again, 2 books, welding with Hydrogen
>>>>>> used to be a thing and it was very overunity. While I
>>>>>> guess this was not that, such "features" tend to get
>>>>>> removed over time. But there is an account of a guy
>>>>>> welding a Pyramid and hit levitated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are accounts of the steel components in the
>>>>>> Pharnsworth Fusor sometimes turning transparent or
>>>>>> becoming invisible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are accounts of steel components in more regular
>>>>>> vacuum tubes sometimes becoming invisible (still working,
>>>>>> so they were still there).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an account of a transformer made with steel
>>>>>> tube, not laminate, that was made in the form of a bike
>>>>>> so that it could be ridden, it would cause the
>>>>>> transformer and the rider (or just the rider?) to begin
>>>>>> to vanish and to come back babbling about what he saw.
>>>>>> There is also an account from Davis and Rawls of treating
>>>>>> the Pineal with a magnet, but this is assumed to have
>>>>>> only resulted in seeing things dissolve in a "3rd eye"
>>>>>> kind of way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, there is an account that I have a document on
>>>>>> somewhere, a guy made a device, he used copper wire from
>>>>>> an old telephone transmission transformer (I have no idea
>>>>>> if there is such a thing, but that's what I recall), he
>>>>>> had 3 steel cores which he wound bucking electromagnetic
>>>>>> poles on, I think he energized them in a circular manner
>>>>>> so as to create a rotating field, but I'm not sure, but
>>>>>> he did have the frequency increase gradually as it ran,
>>>>>> at some point objects put in the center would disappear,
>>>>>> he could make them reappear also. I think the document
>>>>>> might have had a shot at what frequency might have been used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we have multiple accounts then suggesting that there
>>>>>> are a lot of ways that steel can be treated that makes it
>>>>>> eventually "wig out' and disappear, sometimes coming
>>>>>> back, sometimes not seemingly the object remains in the
>>>>>> same space and can be returned by reversing the process,
>>>>>> in other case not powering it anymore seems enough
>>>>>> (probably in cases where the item is connected to
>>>>>> circuitry that has not vanished, grounding the energy).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, it's not iron, but there is also an account of paper
>>>>>> thin gold becoming transparent when heated, both this and
>>>>>> the "regular vacuum tube" account above were mentioned by
>>>>>> someone on BBill eaty's Vortex discussion list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and as for the space warping one, that is a claim by
>>>>>> Stan Deyo, he had an iron ring which he created multi
>>>>>> axis rotating iron atoms (hmmm, does that sound like it
>>>>>> could describe a helix?) by pulsing 3 coils on different
>>>>>> axis at a special frequency at a special phase
>>>>>> relationship, this caused space to bend in toward the
>>>>>> device for a moment at which point it would do nothing
>>>>>> else, not that device and even a newly built device in
>>>>>> that spot would not work, as if the device was now "full"
>>>>>> and had sucked the relevant energy from the space around
>>>>>> it. But a new one in a new spot would agian work once
>>>>>> apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the note I made to myself based on all of this is that
>>>>>> the iron can be energized a number of ways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The effects I notices were:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spark gap discharge <This featured prominently, the
>>>>>> vacuum tube is also a similar kind of "current across a
>>>>>> gap", I guess to strech a point the gap in the outer ring
>>>>>> of the paperclip vanishing device could also count.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Current through the iron, let me see, if the output coils
>>>>>> are not loaded suddenly, then the core losses increase
>>>>>> (as the magnetic field is unopposed by the generator
>>>>>> coils) which includes induction of currrent, so this
>>>>>> could apply to the first one, perhaps the second one as
>>>>>> some transformers are made to only work loaded and
>>>>>> unloaded will draw too much current, conducting current
>>>>>> through iron particles in a gel, Yup. Also that would go
>>>>>> for the "extra" account about similar effects from the
>>>>>> Joe/Proton cell. It might apply to the home-made HV
>>>>>> transformer, no idea what kind of core he used.or if he
>>>>>> had enough primary turns to keep it from drawing too much
>>>>>> current thereby inducing excess inductive losses. Paper
>>>>>> clip account, Yup, current through loop. My old (actually
>>>>>> young at the time) friend in Canada, YUP! Lost Tech
>>>>>> Archives paper clipping of a jacket made with steel coils
>>>>>> which, yes, were electrified, so YUP! Pharnsworth Fusor?
>>>>>> Maybe a little as it was electrified to a high voltage
>>>>>> and that was lost to the gas in ionization, Regular
>>>>>> Vacuum Tubes? Probably. Steel Tube ride-on Transformer?
>>>>>> You bet! Rising freq. device with bucking electromagnets?
>>>>>> Possibly. As for the the account from Gerry Vassilitos,
>>>>>> while current is assumed not to be passing through the
>>>>>> steel objects that vanished, it would have been likely
>>>>>> passing through the things being welded, so probably Yes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voltage: Probably not required, only ones with propperly
>>>>>> HV is Pharnsworth and the HV transformer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saturation: Possible in a number of the cases, but not
>>>>>> all, not by a long way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Physical stress: Maybe in some, but not a major component.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hysteresis: I think this could be a big help but it's not
>>>>>> present in anything but the more transformer/generator
>>>>>> type examples
>>>>>>
>>>>>> High frequency??? In only a few of the cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Norm's Buzzer is just a steel rod as I understand it
>>>>>> to be, it too would have had this "induction in the core"
>>>>>> going on!
>>>>>> Both eddy currents and Hysteresis and it's directly
>>>>>> electrically connected and has a "spark gap" or sorts
>>>>>> (mechanical switches do spark :) ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I think that overall, the arc welding and the HV
>>>>>> transformer with screws thrown at it and the several with
>>>>>> circles of steel and things vanishing in the middle point
>>>>>> to the effect being aetheric, the steel is just good at
>>>>>> containing the aetheric energy, and when it is contained
>>>>>> then things "done" to the steel tend to convert that
>>>>>> energy, weather it is mechanical stress such as a buzzer
>>>>>> or hysteresis or ohmic resistance into more aetheric
>>>>>> energy to the point, a runaway feedback effect. Merely
>>>>>> having losses in iron probably won't do anything if the
>>>>>> aether is not already involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Berry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very interested in dimensional shifts and their
>>>>>> causes. Anything you might provide based on these
>>>>>> cases you mention would be compelling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/28/2017 2:39 PM, John Berry
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> I wish you had not brought up the subject of pure
>>>>>>> Iron, I just looked into it and it is EXPENSIVE well
>>>>>>> I don't know what that powder costs, but a single
>>>>>>> 10cm 2mm dia iron rod is a couple hundred bucks if
>>>>>>> you want pure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything cheap has no purity figures, well could be
>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course while pure iron might be better, the
>>>>>>> evidence for iron being awesome points to it not
>>>>>>> needing to be pure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at all the evidence I have for iron, I think
>>>>>>> that the number of ways it can be used are numerous,
>>>>>>> just considering invisibility, in some accounts it
>>>>>>> is near a spark gap, in other accounts current runs
>>>>>>> through it, in some accounts there are saturating
>>>>>>> magnetic fields but in other accounts there aren't.
>>>>>>> In some accounts there is HV, in other accounts
>>>>>>> there is not, but all the accounts I am thinking of
>>>>>>> the iron got so charged with energy it began to vanish.
>>>>>>> I can think of at least 10 such accounts, and a 11th
>>>>>>> where is seemed to warp space instead of vanish!
>>>>>>> And that's without counting the Philadelphia
>>>>>>> experiment which is meant to have vanished because
>>>>>>> of the iron in the ship.
>>>>>>> And that's not counting another where steel was used
>>>>>>> to make things vanish but it wasn't the steel that
>>>>>>> vanished, but that should probably be counted also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want I can go over the claims in each case,
>>>>>>> but that's a lot of evidence that Iron can do some
>>>>>>> interesting things!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So while there might be ways to get the iron to
>>>>>>> produce energy, I think the key is that much as with
>>>>>>> the locked rotor and MRA tests, energy (aetheric)
>>>>>>> can be built up to a very high level in iron no
>>>>>>> matter where it comes from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if this energy is expelled all at once, look out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incidentally I found a form that is very effective
>>>>>>> at keeping energy in, condensing. I don't know if
>>>>>>> this suits the iron subject, but it might.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inline image 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was arrived at by experimentation and I'm not
>>>>>>> sure if I have an explanation it would do full justice.
>>>>>>> Again if you are willing to try and do something as
>>>>>>> out there as feel energy from a screen, this is a
>>>>>>> good one to try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Berry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:51 AM,
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> one word (Gravity)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> every particle is a transform engine ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (H)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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