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From: Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
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http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/repulsb.htm
On 3/31/2017 7:40 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
>
> On 3/31/2017 7:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> The answer is in the vortices that are generated As in tornadoes,
>> ionization occurs at micro level! Schauberger's Repulsine device
>> worked this way and produced AG effect!
>>
>>
>> On 3/31/2017 7:18 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> So someone had reason to think that it was a beetle that was the
>>> mystery insect and this is a close up of a structure that is
>>> uncovered and changes angle during flight:
>>> Inline image 1
>>> I am not sure who found this and I forget the supporting details,
>>> but there is a good reason to think that's it, but now I am going to
>>> try and explain how and why it works.
>>> So we could sum this up as a bunch of cones shooting energy through
>>> circular holes.
>>>
>>> Ok, now I want to take what will seem like a funny unconnected turn
>>> and point out the work of James Cornwell:
>>> http://rexresearch.com/cornwell/cornwell.htm
>>>
>>> So he made a device that seems to disrupt electronics to a point
>>> that seem mysterious and the radiation passes through Faraday cages,
>>> so this is aetheric energy, we could say "radiant energy:.
>>>
>>> If we look at the design of his device, he uses a magnetron that is
>>> powered in an unbalanced manner (I would expect that to output
>>> aetheric energy), and then this radiation passed through transparent
>>> electropositive and electronegitive transparent windows. What I
>>> have found from my own research is that is what I term "neutral"
>>> aether energy passes through a transparent charged film, it is
>>> changed by that.
>>> Tesla made a radiant energy receiver which was a large plate covered
>>> in a special transparent coating.
>>>
>>> The wire in Edwin's tube are coated in Teflon which is the most
>>> strongly known electronegative material.
>>> I also want to point out this:
>>> http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html <A transparent force
>>> wall from highly charged moving cling film.
>>>
>>> So we want to send energy through a transparent material, but is
>>> there another way?
>>>
>>> Well it turns out you can make a window with aetheric energy, this
>>> can be done in either a cylinder, or a plane, if a cylinder and
>>> there is an aether vortex going on, the "ghost" of that cylinder
>>> rotates such that there is "energy" from the solid parts of the
>>> cylinder where the windows are.
>>> With a plane (flat surface not the 'aero type'), an aetheric
>>> radiation that occurs in the plane and focuses in the center.
>>>
>>> So, where is this window method used?
>>>
>>> Paul Baumann and Edwin Gray both used holes in cylinders and plates
>>> for this reason I believe, they condition energies that are emitted
>>> through the windows.
>>>
>>> But this is where we run into another group of devices.
>>>
>>> So there was this guy in this field who went by the handle DMBoss,
>>> he experimented with a discovery that others have researched which
>>> is an energy beam that occurs with magnets placed on tubes of noble
>>> gas, anyway he also did other experiments and while I forget all the
>>> details of the experiment, this one experiment he told me about, he
>>> had a large pancake coil with a hole in the middle and it was
>>> suspended, at some point with no conventional cause it just suddenly
>>> started swinging. It was a one off as such, but I will now explore
>>> several similar things!
>>>
>>> Next is Jeff Cook, he make a coil that while not quite a pancake as
>>> it is long as well as wide the effect still occurs, it also has the
>>> kind of asymmetry that effects the aether, this was given an impulse
>>> of power that could apparently bend flames, and when Tim Ventura of
>>> the site "American Antigravity" tested it, this thing sent out a
>>> beam that killed the piezo starters in a distant gas cook top.
>>> Basically gravity like impulses occurred.
>>>
>>> Next, is Ronald Stiffler who made a device that created an impulse
>>> that moved bits of paper and might have bent a laser beam a bit, it
>>> consisted of one large and one smaller iron toroid wrapped in a
>>> copper coil. Again there is asymmetry and the larger fatter toroid
>>> is again very thick.
>>>
>>> Next is Morton L. Morton, he made a series of experiment where a Van
>>> de Graff is induced somehow to discharge through a glass tube to a
>>> large aluminium plate with a hole in the center, this caused the
>>> emission of a repulsive or attractive force depending on finer details.
>>>
>>> Next is Podkletnov who after his spinning superconductor success did
>>> a seriously suped up version of the Morton experiment, his impulses
>>> were incomparably stronger, the details are more exotic but the
>>> structure is similar to a combo of Morton, Stiffler and Jeff Cook's
>>> device.
>>>
>>> Next is Howard Menger, I will describe a hybrid device that is a
>>> combo of his early experiment and his later experiment for
>>> simplicity, take a large circular aluminium disk with a hole in the
>>> center, put a carbon rod wrapped with a copper coil around the rod,
>>> apply a pulse from a battery (a modest 1.5v cell from a flash
>>> light). This resulted in a huge thrusting up of the aluminium plate
>>> that broke through his ceiling.
>>> He actually could not fully replicate his early success without
>>> making a seriously more built up version which involved more coils
>>> and more power, but he was apparently able to replicate the results
>>> to create an antigravity craft.
>>>
>>> Next, we will change thing a bit and look at the "capwarp":
>>> http://amasci.com/caps/capwarp.html
>>> This device creates a thrust, it was replicated successfully by 2-3
>>> people, one using the pages of a book as the dielectric and pasting
>>> tin coil circles and connecting strips on the pages. Each layer
>>> again influences the space through the center, flow through the
>>> center happens due to both a rotational effect that occurs and
>>> possible having a positive on one end and negative on the other.
>>>
>>> Next is Doyle, this was in the Rex Research paper infolios but not
>>> online I don't think, it was a large circular capacitor that lost
>>> weight, no matter if the positive or negative was up. it was just a
>>> science fare project. He used Styrofoam as the dielectric.
>>>
>>> Ok, so now have you watched the "fluxliner" documentary? If not I
>>> HIGHLY recommend it!
>>> The construction there and this is an "Alien Reproduction Vehicle"
>>> is a large capacitor the size of the saucer craft, the capacitor is
>>> in segments like the cap warp with a hole in the middle, it also has
>>> a coil the energy also goes through. Glass dielectric.
>>>
>>> The guy who made the documentary was assassinated, but in another
>>> version some report to have seen an extra detail given, about a guy
>>> in university who made a circular HV capacitor with glass
>>> dielectric, it lost all weight.
>>>
>>> I myself can vouch that this segmented approach is powerful.
>>>
>>> If we look at moving through the center of such a capacitor, we
>>> would see a series of positive and negative planes (plates),
>>> alternating positive negative. Much like Cornwell's transparent
>>> windows!
>>> In addition while a plane creates a much stronger energy that just a
>>> ring, Hamel and Searl and even Otis T. Car would qualify, Searl has
>>> 3 concentric rings in the same plane, and Hamel as 2 concentric
>>> rings but stacked 3 in series and another large ring magnet below that.
>>>
>>> To some extent all you need is a circle (a loop), it's just that the
>>> more you have the more extreme the "window".
>>>
>>> The biggest question is how the different types of "window" change
>>> the effects of the energy that goes through, a capacitor and a coil
>>> or a neutral object are all very different and likely relate to
>>> different effects on the energy that goes through the window.
>>>
>>> Also my theory is that the window is about picking up energies or
>>> qualities, but it is possible that it is about filtering out
>>> energies or qualities, or about changing energies of what moves
>>> through it.
>>>
>>> But I think this is the basis of the bugs secret, and a powerful
>>> secret of aetheric energy, this allows energy to be variously
>>> conditioned.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Berry
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> John! I would love to read your ideas and theory and will also
>>> share my ideas as to how "flight" actually works. I'm 79 now
>>> and have been at this since my childhood since I grew up around
>>> aircraft. My Dad had two and I would wash airplanes just for a
>>> ride. (Late 40s). Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2017 2:43 PM, John Berry [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Norm, yes I know.
>>>>
>>>> And I think I know what was going on with the insects, I think
>>>> I might know the shape and how it worked.
>>>>
>>>> I can write it up, but I just need to know you want to read it,
>>>> It might be a little long, it makes a decent case.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> John Berry
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John! regarding the "shimmer/invisibility", see this:
>>>> Viktor Stepanovich Grebennikov --- naturalist and a
>>>> professional entomologist. He is also an artist and an
>>>> intellectual with a wide range of interests and pursuits.
>>>> He is known to many as the discoverer of the Cavity
>>>> Structures Effect (CSE). But very few people are familiar
>>>> with his other discovery, the one that also borrows from
>>>> Nature and its innermost secrets. He has discovered
>>>> antigravitational effects of the chitin shell of certain
>>>> insects back in 1988 but, the most impressive concomitant
>>>> phenomenon he has discovered at the same time was that of
>>>> complete or partial invisibility and/or of distorted
>>>> perception of material objects entering the zone of
>>>> compensated gravity. Based on this discovery, Victor
>>>> Grebennikov used bionic principles to design and build an
>>>> anti-gravitational platform for hovering flights at the
>>>> speeds of up to 25 km/min. Since 1991-92 he has used this
>>>> device for his own fast transportation.
>>>>
>>>> "Zone of compensated gravity"????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/28/2017 7:24 PM, John Berry [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I'll keep each account down to it's bare bone details.
>>>>> It is of course worth noting that none of this stuff has
>>>>> stellar evidence, you either believe the account or you
>>>>> don't, it is only in the consistency that a real degree of
>>>>> credibility arises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Big generator, suddenly unloaded. A report I heard from a
>>>>> guy who heard it from a guy, in a power station a
>>>>> generator, I want to say it was a Westinghouse, when it
>>>>> was pulled offline suddenly (but it's still generating) it
>>>>> began to shimmer and disappear, apparently it had been
>>>>> seen before but it wasn't talked about.
>>>>>
>>>>> An account on Keelynet, hmmm, I just realized I included
>>>>> this one under accounts of invisibility of iron, but it
>>>>> was iron that made non-iron this disappear anyway this guy
>>>>> who "Knew what he was doing" stole 5 large transformers,
>>>>> put them in a circle, put a goat and other things to test
>>>>> it out, they disappeared, then he got in the circle and
>>>>> disappeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, this one now I think about it is also "different", an
>>>>> account that I heard in connection to another account
>>>>> actually, but it involved a guy who on trying to conduct
>>>>> electricity through a gel with iron particles found
>>>>> himself displaced in time or something, I think it was
>>>>> mentioned in connection with another account I didn't
>>>>> include in my count of a "Joe Cell" like device (Proton
>>>>> Cell) that was powerd by an inusual generator and possible
>>>>> a spark gap, and this cell made for some displacements in
>>>>> time also.
>>>>>
>>>>> I now forget the guys name, but on the Art Bell radio
>>>>> show, a guy rang in and rang back a few times I think (not
>>>>> sure I listened first hand to much of it), he wound a high
>>>>> voltage transformer like an NST, and when he threw (I
>>>>> assume steel) screws near the HV arc they would vanish.
>>>>> Screws have a right handed helix, so that should attract
>>>>> the electron type energy. The transformer he specified was
>>>>> "scramble wound" not neatly wound, i have found such
>>>>> winding's especially if the degree of chaos varies (starts
>>>>> neat, gets messy) to create a lot of aetheric energy, and
>>>>> they can pull energy in too, perhaps from the spark gap
>>>>> creating a feedback cycle of aetheric energy.
>>>>>
>>>>> William Beaty's weird science site has had feedback from
>>>>> people who have got weird results from experiments, one
>>>>> tells about a guy took some amplifier or something, hooked
>>>>> it up to a steel loop (the kind that would come with
>>>>> rabbit ears something, with 90 degree bends leading into
>>>>> and out of the loop (which I have found to be a powerful
>>>>> aetheric effect if the 2 sides are imbalanced somehow),
>>>>> into which he dangled a paper clip on cotton, the paper
>>>>> clip vanished and when he reversed the connection to the
>>>>> loop it re-appeared. In might have been enveloped in a
>>>>> blue glow? (if you look you will find the account)
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a friend in Canada, I think he said that he
>>>>> witnessed this, or maybe it happened to his friends, they
>>>>> took a steel coat hanger and shorted out a car battery, it
>>>>> turned red, then white, then started to shimmer and vanish.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know Rex Research, well there was another group in New
>>>>> Zealand (maybe it was Australia) called Lost Tech Archives
>>>>> IIRC, I never bought any of their stuff (this was back
>>>>> before Rex Research put stuff online for free) as I had
>>>>> opted out of paying any money for more info but some stuff
>>>>> I got for free, or was it the catalog? Or a free first
>>>>> copy? Well one of the things was a newspaper clipping of
>>>>> a guy who way way back, I'm going to guess the 50's at the
>>>>> earliest, who had a suit with steel coils that made him
>>>>> invisible. Another thing they also had was a guy who made
>>>>> a vacuum tube device that created rays that caused things
>>>>> to lose weight.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Gerry Vassalito's 2 books on Tesla and cold wars
>>>>> secrets, he talk about how arc welders would find steel
>>>>> tools vanish, and finally they realized that emissions
>>>>> from the arcs were doing this. This was probably peculiar
>>>>> to the technology used in the day. As William Lyne points
>>>>> out in his again, 2 books, welding with Hydrogen used to
>>>>> be a thing and it was very overunity. While I guess this
>>>>> was not that, such "features" tend to get removed over
>>>>> time. But there is an account of a guy welding a Pyramid
>>>>> and hit levitated.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are accounts of the steel components in the
>>>>> Pharnsworth Fusor sometimes turning transparent or
>>>>> becoming invisible.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are accounts of steel components in more regular
>>>>> vacuum tubes sometimes becoming invisible (still working,
>>>>> so they were still there).
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an account of a transformer made with steel tube,
>>>>> not laminate, that was made in the form of a bike so that
>>>>> it could be ridden, it would cause the transformer and the
>>>>> rider (or just the rider?) to begin to vanish and to come
>>>>> back babbling about what he saw. There is also an account
>>>>> from Davis and Rawls of treating the Pineal with a magnet,
>>>>> but this is assumed to have only resulted in seeing things
>>>>> dissolve in a "3rd eye" kind of way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, there is an account that I have a document on
>>>>> somewhere, a guy made a device, he used copper wire from
>>>>> an old telephone transmission transformer (I have no idea
>>>>> if there is such a thing, but that's what I recall), he
>>>>> had 3 steel cores which he wound bucking electromagnetic
>>>>> poles on, I think he energized them in a circular manner
>>>>> so as to create a rotating field, but I'm not sure, but he
>>>>> did have the frequency increase gradually as it ran, at
>>>>> some point objects put in the center would disappear, he
>>>>> could make them reappear also. I think the document might
>>>>> have had a shot at what frequency might have been used.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, we have multiple accounts then suggesting that there
>>>>> are a lot of ways that steel can be treated that makes it
>>>>> eventually "wig out' and disappear, sometimes coming back,
>>>>> sometimes not seemingly the object remains in the same
>>>>> space and can be returned by reversing the process, in
>>>>> other case not powering it anymore seems enough (probably
>>>>> in cases where the item is connected to circuitry that has
>>>>> not vanished, grounding the energy).
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, it's not iron, but there is also an account of paper
>>>>> thin gold becoming transparent when heated, both this and
>>>>> the "regular vacuum tube" account above were mentioned by
>>>>> someone on BBill eaty's Vortex discussion list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and as for the space warping one, that is a claim by
>>>>> Stan Deyo, he had an iron ring which he created multi axis
>>>>> rotating iron atoms (hmmm, does that sound like it could
>>>>> describe a helix?) by pulsing 3 coils on different axis at
>>>>> a special frequency at a special phase relationship, this
>>>>> caused space to bend in toward the device for a moment at
>>>>> which point it would do nothing else, not that device and
>>>>> even a newly built device in that spot would not work, as
>>>>> if the device was now "full" and had sucked the relevant
>>>>> energy from the space around it. But a new one in a new
>>>>> spot would agian work once apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the note I made to myself based on all of this is that
>>>>> the iron can be energized a number of ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> The effects I notices were:
>>>>>
>>>>> Spark gap discharge <This featured prominently, the vacuum
>>>>> tube is also a similar kind of "current across a gap", I
>>>>> guess to strech a point the gap in the outer ring of the
>>>>> paperclip vanishing device could also count.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current through the iron, let me see, if the output coils
>>>>> are not loaded suddenly, then the core losses increase (as
>>>>> the magnetic field is unopposed by the generator coils)
>>>>> which includes induction of currrent, so this could apply
>>>>> to the first one, perhaps the second one as some
>>>>> transformers are made to only work loaded and unloaded
>>>>> will draw too much current, conducting current through
>>>>> iron particles in a gel, Yup. Also that would go for the
>>>>> "extra" account about similar effects from the Joe/Proton
>>>>> cell. It might apply to the home-made HV transformer, no
>>>>> idea what kind of core he used.or if he had enough primary
>>>>> turns to keep it from drawing too much current thereby
>>>>> inducing excess inductive losses. Paper clip account,
>>>>> Yup, current through loop. My old (actually young at the
>>>>> time) friend in Canada, YUP! Lost Tech Archives paper
>>>>> clipping of a jacket made with steel coils which, yes,
>>>>> were electrified, so YUP! Pharnsworth Fusor? Maybe a
>>>>> little as it was electrified to a high voltage and that
>>>>> was lost to the gas in ionization, Regular Vacuum Tubes?
>>>>> Probably. Steel Tube ride-on Transformer? You bet! Rising
>>>>> freq. device with bucking electromagnets? Possibly. As
>>>>> for the the account from Gerry Vassilitos, while current
>>>>> is assumed not to be passing through the steel objects
>>>>> that vanished, it would have been likely passing through
>>>>> the things being welded, so probably Yes!
>>>>>
>>>>> Voltage: Probably not required, only ones with propperly
>>>>> HV is Pharnsworth and the HV transformer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saturation: Possible in a number of the cases, but not
>>>>> all, not by a long way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Physical stress: Maybe in some, but not a major component.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hysteresis: I think this could be a big help but it's not
>>>>> present in anything but the more transformer/generator
>>>>> type examples
>>>>>
>>>>> High frequency??? In only a few of the cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Norm's Buzzer is just a steel rod as I understand it to
>>>>> be, it too would have had this "induction in the core"
>>>>> going on!
>>>>> Both eddy currents and Hysteresis and it's directly
>>>>> electrically connected and has a "spark gap" or sorts
>>>>> (mechanical switches do spark :) ).
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think that overall, the arc welding and the HV
>>>>> transformer with screws thrown at it and the several with
>>>>> circles of steel and things vanishing in the middle point
>>>>> to the effect being aetheric, the steel is just good at
>>>>> containing the aetheric energy, and when it is contained
>>>>> then things "done" to the steel tend to convert that
>>>>> energy, weather it is mechanical stress such as a buzzer
>>>>> or hysteresis or ohmic resistance into more aetheric
>>>>> energy to the point, a runaway feedback effect. Merely
>>>>> having losses in iron probably won't do anything if the
>>>>> aether is not already involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Berry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very interested in dimensional shifts and their
>>>>> causes. Anything you might provide based on these
>>>>> cases you mention would be compelling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mick
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/28/2017 2:39 PM, John Berry
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> I wish you had not brought up the subject of pure
>>>>>> Iron, I just looked into it and it is EXPENSIVE well
>>>>>> I don't know what that powder costs, but a single
>>>>>> 10cm 2mm dia iron rod is a couple hundred bucks if
>>>>>> you want pure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything cheap has no purity figures, well could be
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course while pure iron might be better, the
>>>>>> evidence for iron being awesome points to it not
>>>>>> needing to be pure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at all the evidence I have for iron, I think
>>>>>> that the number of ways it can be used are numerous,
>>>>>> just considering invisibility, in some accounts it is
>>>>>> near a spark gap, in other accounts current runs
>>>>>> through it, in some accounts there are saturating
>>>>>> magnetic fields but in other accounts there aren't.
>>>>>> In some accounts there is HV, in other accounts there
>>>>>> is not, but all the accounts I am thinking of the
>>>>>> iron got so charged with energy it began to vanish.
>>>>>> I can think of at least 10 such accounts, and a 11th
>>>>>> where is seemed to warp space instead of vanish!
>>>>>> And that's without counting the Philadelphia
>>>>>> experiment which is meant to have vanished because of
>>>>>> the iron in the ship.
>>>>>> And that's not counting another where steel was used
>>>>>> to make things vanish but it wasn't the steel that
>>>>>> vanished, but that should probably be counted also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want I can go over the claims in each case,
>>>>>> but that's a lot of evidence that Iron can do some
>>>>>> interesting things!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So while there might be ways to get the iron to
>>>>>> produce energy, I think the key is that much as with
>>>>>> the locked rotor and MRA tests, energy (aetheric) can
>>>>>> be built up to a very high level in iron no matter
>>>>>> where it comes from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if this energy is expelled all at once, look out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidentally I found a form that is very effective at
>>>>>> keeping energy in, condensing. I don't know if this
>>>>>> suits the iron subject, but it might.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inline image 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was arrived at by experimentation and I'm not
>>>>>> sure if I have an explanation it would do full justice.
>>>>>> Again if you are willing to try and do something as
>>>>>> out there as feel energy from a screen, this is a
>>>>>> good one to try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Berry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:51 AM,
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one word (Gravity)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> every particle is a transform engine ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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