Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Chernetsky

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Looking back at our efforts to understand a new form of electricity that 
is the inverse form that we are all too familiar with.      Some call it 
negative electricity, I call it the Magneto-Electric effect.   We will 
get into the Negative ionization which sheds light on the Anti-Gravity 
effects often seen in our experiments but go unexplained.    A clue,  
The Bernoulli Principles of lift and flight are not the total picture as 
you have been led to believe.   Ha, Ha,   Norm

On 6/30/2018 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Hello! Kone and all EVGRAY followers!
>
> Your question regarding the One Watt Challenge!    I was at the New 
> Energy Conference in Denver1994 and heard Hal Puthoff issue the 
> Challenge!  Pay attention to the key words (stand alone"!! Here is the 
> challenge!
>
> ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES:
> Good News/Bad News and "The 1-Watt Challenge"
>
> H. E. Puthoff, Ph.D.
> Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin
> Austin, Texas
>
> Presented at:
> International Symposium on New Energy
> Denver, Colorado
> May 12-15,1994
>
> ABSTRACT
>
> In researching innovative energy sources, we are faced with a good 
> news/bad news situation. On the good news side, new arenas of research 
> activity are being opened up and pursued vigorously. These range from 
> relatively mainstream approaches to develop solar energy, to highly 
> innovative approaches to extract energy from vacuum fluctuations. On 
> the bad news side, despite varying degrees of claimed success, there 
> are as yet no standalone devices in this class (with the exception of 
> solar devices) that unambiguously demonstrate the generation of net 
> excess energy to the satisfaction of the consens ual research 
> community. It is suggested here that the credibility of these efforts 
> requires meeting what we call "The IWatt Challenge," the demonstration 
> of a device that can continuously generate, on a stand-alone, 
> self-powered basis, a minimum of at least I watt excess average output 
> power."
> -------
>
> Please (all) note that when Joel & I asked Puthoff to test and 
> validate the MRA, we were not entering the 1 watt challenge. We simply 
> wanted verification that the MRA displayed over-unity gain. Now some 
> background is needed here for all of you guys!
>
> Joel and I demonstrated and gave to Tom Bearden a working MRA at his 
> home in Huntsville. Tom Bearden told us that with all of their efforts 
> on the Floyd Sweet VTA there was no way to close the loop even with 
> it's fantastic measured gain ratio.  Joel and I experienced the same 
> frustration with trying to close the loop and get sustained stand 
> alone operation. Here is a paper from Floyd Sweet himself that will 
> help you understand this Spook Energy.
>
> Abstract
> The Vacuum Triode Amplifier (VTA) invented by Floyd Sweet consists of two
> ferrite magnets and two to four coreless wire coils. It is self 
> powered in the
> preferred configuration and produces in excess of one KW of 120 VRMS 60 HZ
> power in the form of energy that resembles electricity. This energy is 
> referred to
> as negative energy. The VTA development history, its anti-gravity 
> characteristics,
> negative energy proper- ties, and some of the personalities involved are
> discussed.
> FLOYD SWEET'S VTA UNIT
> by Walt Rosenthal
> This is a story of Floyd Sweet's trials and tribulations involving a 
> mystery
> wrapped in an enigma. God revealed to Floyd sufficient information to 
> build a
> machine to provide energy that resembles electricity. However, God did not
> provide solutions to the frustrating string of problems that would 
> surface in
> converting the idea into a working device. There are several people in 
> this story
> that have provided help and some who have hindered.
> When Tom Bearden met Floyd, the device Floyd had developed was producing a
> few watts of alternating current at 28 volts. Tom saw in Floyd's 
> device the
> physical embodiment of a principle he had theorized many years before. Tom
> had never designed or constructed a physical device to access this elusive
> energy source. Tom's name for the extraction process is 'Four Wave Phase
> Conjugate Mixing'. The energy source is the intense non-cohered energy 
> that is
> thought to be present everywhere in the universe. Various researchers 
> through
> the years have given this energy different names, such as "Zero Point 
> Energy",
> "Gravity Field Energy", "Radiant Energy", and others.
> Tom Bearden gave Floyd's device the name "Vacuum Triode Amplifier" or VTA.
> The machine provides a small amount of its output fed back to the 
> equivalent of a
> grid which gates or coheres a large amount of energy which appears at the
> device output terminal as something that resembles electricity! Negative
> Electricity.
> This energy can be utilized by devices designed to convert electricity 
> to light,
> heat, or mechanical work or anything else for which normal electricity 
> is used.
> The properties of this energy, although superficially resembling the 
> 120 VRMS 60
> HZ power we normally use, are unique and sufficiently different from
> conventional electricity, so that it should be classified as an 
> entirely new energy
> form. It will require careful extended study by a wide range of people 
> in order to
> document its properties in the manner scientists have done with 
> conventional
> electricity.
> Tom Bearden refers to this energy as negative energy, and he states that
> negative time must be utilized. In negative time according to Bearden, 
> gravity is a
> repulsive force.
> Floyd's experiments demonstrated that the VTA loses weight in 
> proportion to the
> amount of generated "Negative Energy". This was carefully documented 
> by Floyd
> on a kitchen scale. The machine weight was observed decreasing with 
> increased
> load in a quite orderly fashion until a point was suddenly reached 
> when Floyd
> heard an immense sound, as if he were at the center of a giant 
> whirlwind but
> without actual air movement. The sound was heard by his wife Rose in 
> another
> room of their apartment and was heard by others outside the apartment. The
> experience was very frightening and the experiment has not been repeated.
> Some observers of the light emanating from ordinary 120 volt 100 watt
> incandescent bulbs powered by the VTA claim the light is different, 
> softer, than
> normal incandescent light. The VTA magnets and coils when powering 
> loads of
> over a kilowatt become cold and temperatures of 20 degrees Fahrenheit 
> below
> ambient have been observed. Similar reports of below ambient 
> temperature of
> energy machine components have been reported by other inventors, such as
> John Bedini and John R.R. Searl.
> When the VTA output wires had been accidentally shortened, first an 
> extremely
> brilliant flash occurred. When the wires involved were examined shortly
> afterward, they were found covered with frost. Unfortunately this also 
> caused the
> VTA magnet to fracture and the machine ceased operating. In one 
> instance the
> machine operation ceased during a local earthquake. The physical 
> shacking was
> not believed to be sufficiently severe to disrupt the machine 
> magnet/coil relative
> placement or physical shock to the magnet such as a hammer blow might 
> impart.
> The best speculation is that the machine was affected by the intense
> electromagnetic pulse known to originate from earthquakes.
> Conventional instruments used to measure volts, amps, or watts appear to
> correlate machine output as coupled to loads, but only up to 
> approximately 1 KW;
> above that value they may indicate zero or some other value not 
> related to the
> known actual load. Floyd's attempts to use conventional electrical design
> formulas relating number of coil turns, amp turns on drive coils, and 
> any other
> parameter to predict observed outputs have all resulted in failures with
> calculations. Empirical formulas based on actual tests have been 
> documented.
> Observation of machine output voltage of approximately 120 VRMS while the
> load was changed in 100 watt increments from 100 watts to 1000 watts has
> shown no observable output voltage change, which suggests an extremely low
> internal equivalent impedance. The 20 gauge magnet wire in the output 
> coils
> consisting of several hundred turns has significant DC resistance 
> which is not
> correlated with the unvarying output terminal voltage at different 
> loads. It is
> speculated that this energy does not travel within the copper wire or 
> its passage
> through the copper wire does not generate a voltage drop- a most 
> useful feature
> when transferring energy from one place to another.
> One frustrating aspect of the VTA has been its failures, evidenced by 
> the output
> voltage slowly decaying to zero over a few seconds or minutes. There 
> also has
> been spontaneous in- stances of the voltage rising above 120 VRMS as
> observed by the increased lamp load bank brightness. The volt meters, 
> ammeter,
> and power meter did not correlate with the brightness change except 
> when the
> machine would the fail to produce any power.
> Many times the VTA was normally left on powering a lamp load bank 24 
> hours a
> day. During a period of time when it appeared to be functioning 
> properly all day
> long, Floyd got up at 3:00 AM to go to the bathroom. As he walked past 
> the room
> where the VTA was located, he noticed that the lights appeared dim. He
> measured the voltage at 70 VRMS. Being tired at the moment, he returned to
> bed. The next morning when he rose, the voltage was back to the normal 120
> VRMS and stayed there all day. The next night Floyd got up at 4:30 AM. The
> voltage was measured at 85 VRMS. Floyd returned to bed. The voltage was
> normal the entire next day.
> A possible clue to this anomaly has appeared in an article by E.W. 
> Silvertooth
> title 'Motion Through The Ether' where Silver- tooth describes a dual 
> path laser
> interferometer experiment that conclusively demonstrated the presence 
> of an
> ether that flows through our portion of the universe at greater than 
> the speed of
> light with its vector in the direction of the constellation Leo. 
> Floyd's VTA may be
> orientation sensitive to this ether velocity vector.
> The VTA consists of two 4" X 6" X .5" grade 5 or grade 8 ferrite 
> magnets spaced
> 3 inches apart in the attractive orientation, with the output and 
> drive coils in
> between. The output coils are wound with 20 gage magnet wire. Their 
> axis is
> parallel to the magnetic lines of force between the two magnets. The 
> two drive
> (or excitation) coil axes are positioned at 90 degrees to the output 
> coil axis. The
> VTA excitation coils may be driven by the VTA output voltage or a 
> separate sine
> wave oscillator source.
> The "SECRET" to the machine is the process that "conditions" the 
> magnets. This
> conditioning process determines the output frequency and also prepares the
> machine for operation. The same machine could be just as well "told" 
> to output
> 50 HZ or 400 HZ. The conditioning technique is so novel, it is 
> doubtful anyone
> would ever guess how it is done. Oscilloscope observation of the VTA 
> output
> voltage waveform shows an apparently perfect sine wave that is not phase
> locked to the local 60 HZ power line voltage.
> The VTA can be started by momentary connection of a 9 volt battery to 
> the drive
> coils when the machine is operated in the self-powered mode. The 
> operation is
> stopped by momentary interruption of power to the power coils.
> The VTA "likes" to always see a minimum load of 25 watts.
> Electrical shock to humans from the VTA may be more damaging than contact
> with a 120 VRMS 60 HZ conventional powerline volt- age. Floyd has 
> accidentally
> had VTA current pass from his thumb to his smallest finger. It appears 
> to freeze
> the flesh and was extremely painful for at least two weeks.
> The mechanism by which negative energy makes copper conductors cold 
> but will
> also heat light bulb filaments is not understood. Tom Bearden has 
> coined the
> term "Gravito Stiction" for this process and has described how he 
> believes it
> works.
> On the human side of the VTA development, some incidents are worth 
> telling.
> Two people from Australia, who claimed they wanted to help Floyd, 
> stole his note
> book and promptly asked John Bedini for help in replicating the VTA 
> based on
> the notebook contents. John recognized the notebook as belonging to 
> Floyd and
> promptly asked them to leave. However, the notebook was never recovered.
> Floyd has received many death threats over the phone, and some threats 
> face to
> face. A well dressed gentleman in a expensive suit, tie, hat, and 
> hundred dollar
> shoes approached Floyd on the sidewalk of the street where he lives and
> introduced himself as Cecil Brown. He showed him a picture of Floyd 
> inside his
> apartment. Cecil then told him that he represented a conglomerate that 
> did not
> want Floyd's device to appear in the world at this time. He further 
> stated that
> sometimes unfortunate things happen to people who do not comply with the
> wishes of others. He then retrieved the picture and departed. 
> Incidences like this
> do impart significant concern in Floyd's mind!
> One real unsung hero of the human side of this story is Al Margolin, 
> who for
> many years has provided test equipment, fabrication help, and 
> transportation for
> Floyd and Rose whenever needed, and it was needed many times.
> Floyd's long time friend and former employer Bill Lawry has provided 
> living and
> project expenses and fabrication help when needed.
> The reliable conditioning of the magnets in a manner that assures long 
> time
> operation is the Achilles heel of this device. With the help of enough 
> of the right
> people this device may change our world and open a new field of 
> physics! This
> adventure of course is an on going and the final goal of powering the 
> world with
> the VTA is still a long ways off.
>
> Negative electricity!  Joel and I experienced all of the effects that 
> Bearden, Sweet and all others saw!
>
> Yes!  Doug, Kone, Been there, done that! Norm
>
>
> On 6/28/2018 12:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman
>>
>> Remember the Hal Putoff one watt challenge?
>>
>> Was all this or before or after or during that big cash money prize 
>> to anyone who can "prove without doubt to him" that you have 
>> something overunity....and only one watt is all it will take....
>>
>> Cant remember what the prize was but I would guess this contest was 
>> meant to bring all the inventors and scientists out of the woodwork 
>> and contact hin - now a nice list is created pf who to threaten, who 
>> to cancel any hope of patenting device, who to steal tech from, who 
>> to steal and patent yourself via corporate CIA controlled business, 
>> so tech never sees light of day, who to discourage with his 
>> "brilliant"lump resistive load testing set up to ruin everything make 
>> it look 10% efficient when in actuality it is 7 times overunity....
>>
>> Chernetsky was murdered I am sure the CIA made it look like the 
>> Russians did it, as supposedly he wanted to come to USA  (to win and 
>> claim the one watt challenge?) But I would guess HP made some  
>> classified reports to interested parties in black suits who took a 
>> short vacation to Russia......
>>
>> Kone
>>
>>
>> 
>

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