Re: [EVGRAY] Sven's transverter

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2019-01-31T03:27:52+00:00
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JamesThe wire on the first daisy chain set of motors was fairly husky.My Bidini wire was also at least 20 gauge , as was the Rene charger.They all worked.My very fine wound coils, not so much, I really asked the same question, but was so far dissapointed.Cheers Warren







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  On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 6:40 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
I'd like to see a motor striped of its windings after its normal input verses out put characteristics are noted HP ect the rewind and use very fine wire like 30 gauge or better and just fill it up till no more will fit tye n use hi voltage balanced by low amps to get the Watts the same ..thenbre measure the ins and outs by the law of more winds more magnetic strength you should get increased HP.and  geater back EMF .to extract  using a large dunp cap domyou think that you might be able to eliminate the  EMF  of the back EMF by removing the energy by the cap ?.drawing it way ?.using DC this might change the inductance resistance some what .but results are what tells all .

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Doug
You have s good question, something more to test.I have no idea why it was working so well, so your guess is just as good as mine, until we probe into it further.At this point, speculation just gets my curiosity cranked up, enough, to beat my way across the heavy snowdrifts, across the barn yard, and up into the unheated second floor storage to bring those motors to my, now heated, workshop.It is -26C and blowing like crazy out there at the moment.I never though I would miss my crowded little basement workshop, in my house in Toronto, where everything was in one place, more or less.It must be hard for you, being scattered across continents, listening to me whine about a little snow, when science is to be done, and we are on our asses, all comfy, and warm, in front of these electronic displays!These funny organisms. These collections of cells, craving for answers to questions..What deviant animals, scratching in our stalls, trying to understand the makeup of the ground under our own manure?And yet, the damn question lurks, there, until we uncover its mystery.Thank you for poking away with your little pitch fork, reminding me what needs to be done.Cheers Warren

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  On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 11:33 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
Yes I know that you were using some beefy motors in daisy chain experiment, but my point is they are all unloaded with no resistive loading on any of the, except for the resistive load of the next motor in chain and my theory is the next motor acts more like a rotating capacitor rather than resistive load, which would bleed power off. But instead you have that greatly increased power at last motor at end of chain....wat makes it really interesting is never increase in draw with each motor added from what I understand 
I am not saying it is necessary to resistive load any of those motors, how you did it is perfectly fine but just interested how and why it worked so well and if resistive loading a motor kills it and amps input goes up and no extra power on last motor then that is good clue what is going om and also how to ruin experiment if someone wishes to ruin it.
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