Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk [1 At

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Owiee damn, made my eyes water.

On 1/26/2019 12:41 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Yep ! i told Ash to never run RV wile naked  ClinnnGgg !  Riiiippppp! 
> snap! Thund!  flap! flap! Flap!  flip! flap! flap!
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> You end "Transgendered" from zero to seven seconds flat!     !
>
> (H)
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> ---In [email protected], <okbart@...> wrote :
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> Warren,
>
> Yes clearly known as only the wise and advanced group!  lol
> While in grade 7 the wood shop teacher was showing us how to use the
> wood lathe.
> He turned it on and reached to knock off some loose debris.
> The wind from the turning lathe caught his tie , pulled it until the
> tie ripped.
> His tie was very tight. He made some pretty colors until he could cut
> it off.
> If we laughed we were to be sent home!!!  lol
>
>    Warren , Bridgewater   brings me back to my childhood in memories.
> I am from an area around the bottom and across the Bay. Just  up the
> road a step.
> Alma is a sea going fishing village.  Up the road my father ran a make
> shift scrap/wrecking yard , about 150 -200 cars/trucks
> cycling kind of thing.  When I was about 7-10 years of age he would
> have me strip some thing out for the carburetor ,starter,gen,alternator
> and hang it with bailer twine . Then say that's for  Norms  Tornado up
> the road on blocks !  lol
>
> Bart
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* January 26, 2019 10:27 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk [1 At
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> Warren, their main HQ is in Wisconsin but they may have had a plant in
> Canada.  Peterborough, Ontario
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough,_Ontario> -
> Johnson/Evinrude Outboards (Closed in 1990)   Made Ryan lawnmowers. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outboard_Marine_Corporation    Oh,
> Warren, Bert Pool sent you this. 
>
> Tool definitions
>
> SKILL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make boards too short.
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>
> BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor
> touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.
>
>  
>
> WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere
> under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints
> and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time  takes you to
> say, -----------. Will easily wind a tee shirt off your back.
>
>  
>
> DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat
> metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest
> and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted
> project which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could
> get to it.
>
>  
>
> Channel Locks: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the
> creation of blood-blisters.
>
>  
>
> HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board
> principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable
> motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more
> dismal your future becomes.
>
>  
>
> VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt
> heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer
> intense welding heat to the palm of your hand. (Also, commonly called
> "Channel Changers" on TV's of the 1950's with knobs that were stripped
> out or lost when you were fighting with one of your siblings.)
>
>  
>
> OXYGEN/ACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for igniting various
> flammable objects in your shop and creating a fire. Also handy for
> igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to
> remove a bearing race.
>
>  
>
> TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood
> projectiles for testing wall integrity. Very effective for digit removal!!
>
>  
>
> HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground
> after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack
> handle firmly under the bumper.
>
>  
>
> BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to
> cut large pieces into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the
> trash after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside
> edge. Also excels at amputations.
>
>  
>
> TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength
> of all the crap you forgot to disconnect.
>
>  
>
> PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under
> lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil
> on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out
> Phillips screw heads. (The Phillips screw was brought to market by
> Henry F. Phillips of Portland, Oregon and first used on the1936
> Cadillac. Now you know who to blame for those stripped out heads. Yes,
> Phillips Lake near Baker, Oregon is also named for Henry Philllips.)
>
>  
>
> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to
> convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws and butchering
> your palms.
>
>  
>
> PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or
> bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.
>
>  
>
> PVC PIPE CUTTER: A tool used to make plastic pipe too short.
>
>  
>
> HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is
> used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts
> adjacent to the object you are trying to hit. Also very effective at
> fingernail removal.
>
>  
>
> UTILITY KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of
> cardboard cartons delivered to your front door. Works particularly
> well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic
> bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic
> parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in
> use. These can also be used to initiate a trip to the emergency room
> so a doctor can sew up the damage.
>
>  
>
> SON OF A BITCH TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the
> garage while yelling 'Son of a bitch' at the top of your lungs. It is
> also, most often, the next tool that you will need.
>
>  
>
> DAMMIT CLIP: For us old timers, a clip used on carburetor linkage that
> was easy to remove but almost impossible to put back on. When it went
> flying to who knows where, the mechanic would say: "Dammit, where did
> that clip go". We learned a lot about baling wire from that
> experience. Usually found months or years later by pure accident...
> On 1/26/2019 6:55 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@...
> <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>      
>>
>>     Norman
>>
>>     Didn't Outboard Marine have a plant in Peterborough, Ontario?
>>     They made good products.
>>     Cheap 2 stroke lawn mower engines that wouldn't die, for instance.
>>     Cheers Warren
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>>         On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 6:35 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         Sorry Ole, for I have to stick with Tesla on the ALTERNATING
>>         CURRENT.   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current
>>
>>         A two stroke outboard motor with magneto running at 3600 RPM
>>         has a commutation rate of 60 Hz same as the AC 60Hz line
>>         freq.   When I was a repair technician for 7 years with
>>         Outboard Marine Corp, I got to see a magneto instrumented in
>>         a lab with scope leads to enable viewing the  voltage and
>>         current traces during the magneto cycle. During the 1st step,
>>         N-S PMs passing poles 1 and 2 of an E frame armature there
>>         was induced a forward current and a positive voltage of up to
>>         450V with a current trace clearly showing the knee of the BH
>>         curve indicating the saturation of the iron at peak positive
>>         induced voltage/current. As Kone pointed out, this is a short
>>         circuited primary winding cause one end of winding is frame
>>         grounded and the other end of winding is grounded via the
>>         closed breaker points.    As you pointed out, current does
>>         not like to be stopped and electrons do have inertia so the
>>         condenser acts as a shock absorber to take the current surge
>>         at point opening and also prevent arcing in the breaker. the
>>         accumulated charge in the condenser at circuit opening is up
>>         to 450VDC positive.   When the breaker points opened there
>>         was a straight down, negative going high magnitude negative
>>         spike off scope scale. Remember that when the breaker points
>>         open the PMs are now inducing a reverse polarity voltage and
>>         current into poles 2 and 3 of the E core.  I guess that
>>         Outboard Marine was correct in using the E frame coil stator
>>         for it produced an excellent and powerful ignition  source. 
>>         Since then we have graduated to the Capacitive discharge type
>>         of ignition systems. 
>>
>>         alt
>>
>>         On 1/25/2019 12:33 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>
>>>         Hi Norman, Mick,
>>>
>>>         "...a reverse current is being induced into the iron core
>>>         coil with the reverse polarity."
>>>         The current continues in the same direction while the
>>>         voltage or tension changes sign. The current can't be
>>>         stopped or having its direction changed in a jump as it is
>>>         always continuous. It would be like immediately stopping or
>>>         changing the direction of a running flywheel. The force
>>>         required or given off is like the voltage when speaking
>>>         coils. The voltage or force will be of infinite size if the
>>>         change happens in an instant. The current starts decreasing
>>>         from whatever value it has at the disruption. Only how fast
>>>         is related to the size of the induced voltage (u = L x
>>>         di/dt) where u is the voltage, L is the inductance of the
>>>         coil, i is the current and t is time. di/dt is the slope of
>>>         the current.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>         Mick, first envision a North-South magnetic poles embedded
>>>         in flywheel. When the North-South magnets bridge the first
>>>         two poles of the stator (rotation) a forward going current
>>>         is induced into iron core coil and at same time charges up
>>>         condenser to max. Important note here is that the impedance
>>>         of coil is LC matched to the value of the condenser.   When
>>>         the North-South magnets move over to the middle and last
>>>         poles, breaker points open and at same time a reverse
>>>         current is being induced into the iron core coil with the
>>>         reverse polarity, the condenser discharges through coil
>>>         windings to frame ground. With the condenser being charged
>>>         via the forward going current, 1st step, when it discharges
>>>         into coil a reverse current is being induced by moving
>>>         magnets. In effect you have opposing currents, opposite
>>>         polarity, (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which cause a miniature
>>>         magnetic flux annihilation event and a MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
>>>         micro EMP event. That is the reason the old magnetos had
>>>         such a powerful spark even when you turned them by hand at
>>>         super low RPM.    I worked on thousands of them on my
>>>         magneto test bench.  Norm
>>>
>>>         On 1/25/2019 9:20 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>              
>>>>
>>>>             Norm,
>>>>
>>>>             So this is the same effect from the 3 pole magneto you
>>>>             showed us, when the cap discharges during the
>>>>             collapsing flyback pulse and compresses the delta?
>>>>
>>>>             Were three poles used in parallel in order to make sure
>>>>             the iron was fully saturated even at low speed in the
>>>>             old magneto?
>>>>
>>>>             On 1/25/2019 9:35 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>              
>>>>>
>>>>>             Your quote, feed it a reverse potential as voltage is
>>>>>             maximal peaking and you have a mother of an EMP
>>>>>             neutral spike on your hands !       Yeeeeeeaaaaah! 
>>>>>             Hector my friend, you got it exactly right. In all my
>>>>>             experience with old time magnetos, this is exactly how
>>>>>             the conderser discharge through the primary windings
>>>>>             happens with reverse polarity.  Bang, you get a sharp
>>>>>             crack spark discharge in the bright blue wave
>>>>>             lengths.  Not a measily  orange spark without any zip
>>>>>             to it.  The 5HP compressor, EMP test I did works this way.
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 1/25/2019 6:35 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>             <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             If you short a coil current becomes maximal voltage
>>>>>>             stays lag at zero upon max core saturation , then at
>>>>>>             short cut off ,voltage becomes leading and maximal as
>>>>>>             current drop to zero ... basic RF neutral spike
>>>>>>             dynamics !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal
>>>>>>             peaking and you have a mother of an EMP neutral spike
>>>>>>             on your hands ! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             (H)   other methods are applicable ,,, rotary is best
>>>>>>             for simplicity ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, <konehead@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:konehead@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Hi Mick
>>>>>>             "would require shorting to saturate the core from
>>>>>>             passing a magnet"
>>>>>>             Did you mean:
>>>>>>             "would require shorting to saturate the core from a
>>>>>>             passing magnet" ?
>>>>>>             I don't know something else?
>>>>>>             Also wouldn't a shorted coil become rf transmitter
>>>>>>             not so much an antenna?
>>>>>>             Anyways still confused but just half way confused now..
>>>>>>             Kone
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