Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk

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Hi Mick,

"Why u instead of V? "
I usually use U (when DC) or u (when AC) for tension as V is used for the SI unit for tension (Volt). This avoids potential problems. Lower case u or v is actually U(t) or V(t) to be more correct as the formulas are functions of time like dU(t)/dt or dV(t)/dt. I.e. it's the derivative or slope of the time changing voltage like ΔU/Δt.

I have only heard of the flux capacitor from the Si-Fi movies "Back to the Future."

By using high frequency modulated plasma it's possible to generate DC magnetic fields of high strength: https://earthweb.ess.washington.edu/space/PlasmaMag/ https://earthweb.ess.washington.edu/space/PlasmaMag/

https://phys.org/news/2018-11-magnetic-fields-deep-space-wiggle.html https://phys.org/news/2018-11-magnetic-fields-deep-space-wiggle.html

Wikipedia on electric and magnetic flux:
https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_flux https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_flux
https://wiki2.org/en/Magnetic_flux https://wiki2.org/en/Magnetic_flux

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole,
 Why u instead of V? 
 Yes the inductor is a current source and acts as a current flywheel, good metaphor.  
 
 Can you explain the fabled flux capacitor of Faraday and what may indeed be considered as such if one uses plasma states for instance?  
 
 On 1/25/2019 1:33 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Hi Norman, Mick,
 
 "...a reverse current is being induced into the iron core coil with the reverse polarity."
 The current continues in the same direction while the voltage or tension changes sign. The current can't be stopped or having its direction changed in a jump as it is always continuous. It would be like immediately stopping or changing the direction of a running flywheel. The force required or given off is like the voltage when speaking coils. The voltage or force will be of infinite size if the change happens in an instant. The current starts decreasing from whatever value it has at the disruption. Only how fast is related to the size of the induced voltage (u = L x di/dt) where u is the voltage, L is the inductance of the coil, i is the current and t is time. di/dt is the slope of the current.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 
 Mick, first envision a North-South magnetic poles embedded in flywheel. When the North-South magnets bridge the first two poles of the stator (rotation) a forward going current is induced into iron core coil and at same time charges up condenser to max. Important note here is that the impedance of coil is LC matched to the value of the condenser.   When the North-South magnets move over to the middle and last poles, breaker points open and at same time a reverse current is being induced into the iron core coil with the reverse polarity, the condenser discharges through coil windings to frame ground. With the condenser being charged via the forward going current, 1st step, when it discharges into coil a reverse current is being induced by moving magnets. In effect you have opposing currents, opposite polarity, (BUCKING-OPPOSED)  which cause a miniature magnetic flux annihilation event and a MAGNETO-ELECTRIC, micro EMP event. That is the reason the old magnetos had such a powerful spark even when you turned them by hand at super low RPM.    I worked on thousands of them on my magneto test bench.  Norm
 
 On 1/25/2019 9:20 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Norm,
 So this is the same effect from the 3 pole magneto you showed us, when the cap discharges during the collapsing flyback pulse and compresses the delta?
 Were three poles used in parallel in order to make sure the iron was fully saturated even at low speed in the old magneto?
 
 On 1/25/2019 9:35 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Your quote, feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal peaking and you have a mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands !       Yeeeeeeaaaaah!  Hector my friend, you got it exactly right. In all my experience with old time magnetos, this is exactly how the conderser discharge through the primary windings happens with reverse polarity.  Bang, you get a sharp crack spark discharge in the bright blue wave lengths.  Not a measily  orange spark without any zip to it.  The 5HP compressor, EMP test I did works this way.
 
 On 1/25/2019 6:35 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   If you short a coil current becomes maximal voltage stays lag at zero upon max core saturation , then at short cut off ,voltage becomes leading and maximal as current drop to zero ... basic RF neutral spike dynamics !
 
 feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal peaking and you have a mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands !  
 
 (H)   other methods are applicable ,,, rotary is best for simplicity , 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <konehead@...> mailto:konehead@... wrote :
 
 Hi Mick
 "would require shorting to saturate the core from passing a magnet"
 Did you mean:
 "would require shorting to saturate the core from a passing magnet" ?
 I don't know something else?
 Also wouldn't a shorted coil become rf transmitter not so much an antenna?
 Anyways still confused but just half way confused now..
 Kone

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