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Mick, for some reason you are trying to mix apples with the oranges. Do
not equate this magneto to the WYE transformer coils (three). The
magneto only had one coil with a primary and a secondary windings.
On 1/25/2019 10:24 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Thanks Norm,
>
> Very interesting, you explained a lot here. Do you recall, if the
> three coils all wound in the same direction and how are they connected
> series or parallel or first two parallel then third series?
>
> Would be cool to see a schematic of the inside...
>
> I imagine if the RPM is just right when the magnet is in the right
> place as the LC tank cancels the power multiplication is enormous. If
> the points were adjusted wrong timing wise did they sometimes vaporize?
>
> I was not aware the old design was so cutting edge now that we are on
> to solar flare dynamo theory. It seems more and more in order to go
> forward we must first look far back.
>
>
> On 1/25/2019 10:43 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Mick, first envision a North-South magnetic poles embedded in
>> flywheel. When the North-South magnets bridge the first two poles of
>> the stator (rotation) a forward going current is induced into iron
>> core coil and at same time charges up condenser to max. Important
>> note here is that the impedance of coil is LC matched to the value of
>> the condenser. When the North-South magnets move over to the middle
>> and last poles, breaker points open and at same time a reverse
>> current is being induced into the iron core coil with the reverse
>> polarity, the condenser discharges through coil windings to frame
>> ground. With the condenser being charged via the forward going
>> current, 1st step, when it discharges into coil a reverse current is
>> being induced by moving magnets. In effect you have opposing
>> currents, opposite polarity, (BUCKING-OPPOSED) which cause a
>> miniature magnetic flux annihilation event and a MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
>> micro EMP event. That is the reason the old magnetos had such a
>> powerful spark even when you turned them by hand at super low RPM.
>> I worked on thousands of them on my magneto test bench. Norm
>>
>> On 1/25/2019 9:20 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> So this is the same effect from the 3 pole magneto you showed us,
>>> when the cap discharges during the collapsing flyback pulse and
>>> compresses the delta?
>>>
>>> Were three poles used in parallel in order to make sure the iron was
>>> fully saturated even at low speed in the old magneto?
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2019 9:35 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Your quote, feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal
>>>> peaking and you have a mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands
>>>> ! Yeeeeeeaaaaah! Hector my friend, you got it exactly right.
>>>> In all my experience with old time magnetos, this is exactly how
>>>> the conderser discharge through the primary windings happens with
>>>> reverse polarity. Bang, you get a sharp crack spark discharge in
>>>> the bright blue wave lengths. Not a measily orange spark without
>>>> any zip to it. The 5HP compressor, EMP test I did works this way.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2019 6:35 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you short a coil current becomes maximal voltage stays lag at
>>>>> zero upon max core saturation , then at short cut off ,voltage
>>>>> becomes leading and maximal as current drop to zero ... basic RF
>>>>> neutral spike dynamics !
>>>>>
>>>>> feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal peaking and you
>>>>> have a mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands !
>>>>>
>>>>> (H) other methods are applicable ,,, rotary is best for
>>>>> simplicity ,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mick
>>>>> "would require shorting to saturate the core from passing a magnet"
>>>>> Did you mean:
>>>>> "would require shorting to saturate the core from a passing magnet" ?
>>>>> I don't know something else?
>>>>> Also wouldn't a shorted coil become rf transmitter not so much an
>>>>> antenna?
>>>>> Anyways still confused but just half way confused now..
>>>>> Kone
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