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Bert, I have been looking more into the PZT, Lead Zirconate EMP
generation, Magneto-Electric Effect. Check out these sites.
https://phys.org/news/2016-05-scientists-giant-magnetoelectric-effect-bismuth.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284097138_Origin_of_the_giant_linear_magnetoelectric_effect_in_perovskite-like_multiferroic_BiFeO_3
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.1577404��� Bert, MRA all the
way!�� High audio freq range.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260732043_Observation_of_nonlinear_magnetoelectric_response_to_magnetic_pulses_in_layered_magnetostrictive-piezoelectric_structures
See PDF at attached.
On 1/22/2019 3:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> On 1/22/2019 6:18 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2019 6:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> To all on this dialog list, I will attempt to respond to Bart's
>>> questions as to defining HEAT and COLD. First I must say that I am
>>> a, somewhat amateur researcher sort of like the Good Old Boy Red
>>> Neck that has an Oldsmobile Toronado (48 Oldsmobile with mud grip
>>> tires on front wheels) on wood blocks in front yard. You just have
>>> to address humor with a little humorous feed back.� Bart's question
>>> is in regard to an age old paradox that was found way back around
>>> turn of the Century and was written about in Thermodynamics of
>>> Chemistry Text Books. When studying the phase change of water, we
>>> know that in a closed system (evaporator/ condenser) with very
>>> careful instrumentation (caloriometer) it was found that there was
>>> more caloric energy present on the condensation side of the equation
>>> which, to this day remains unexplained by the very best scholars.�
>>> After studying Tesla's Pyro Ferromagnetic Generator, I wanted to
>>> know how the phase change of a material could provide an electrical
>>> output. That is how I got into researching the Armstrong
>>> Electrostatic Generator that used condensing steam in an insulated
>>> discharge nozzle to accumulate a very powerful electrical charge.�
>>> It has been very recent research developments that help us
>>> understand this phenomenon which has to do with the photon/ virtual
>>> photon puzzle.� Digress here. Back in 1995, Jerry Decker, Cheyenne
>>> Turner and I attended a Conference down in Austin, TX hosted by Hal
>>> Puthoff, EarthTech.� A physicists from Austria did a presentation on
>>> the very subject that I was researching which was the Paradox over
>>> the water phase change phenomenon. As he explained, no one has
>>> solved the obvious in-balance in the energy equation.� BTW, during
>>> Dr. John Bockris, TA&M presentation on The Lateral Transmutation of
>>> Elements in the Cold Fusion Cell (Bockris/ Bass Patent application)�
>>> Dr. Puthoff's lab assistant dropped dead in the back of the room due
>>> to a burst coronary artery.� See:
>>> https://www.elsevier.com/books/chemical-thermodynamics/rouquerol/978-0-08-021366-8
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295087583_Chemical_Thermodynamics
>>> Very important read.
>>>
>>> See attachment for full PDF.�� If you don't understand the
>>> information in this PDF, you need to take your ball and bat home
>>> cause you are trying to play in the wrong ballpark.� ( pleae
>>> download PDF, 16mb, too, large for YAHOO)
>>>
>>> http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/British-thermal-unit-Btu.html
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_burner I put this document in
>>> here which I think old Warren will appreciate cause he sees the
>>> ionization phenomenon every time he lights up his Oxy/Acetylene
>>> torch and adjust the flame.�� You have to go back and read the works
>>> of Tesla to understand that a flame is an electrical phenomenon that
>>> Tesla was very proud of his exact replication of the flame via
>>> electricity. Very rapid positive ionization (combustion) yields the
>>> photon emission in the various wavelengths of visible light based on
>>> the temperatures present or created in the process. Take the old
>>> Oxy/Acetylene flame for an example. When you light up, you get the
>>> orange light wave length photon emission and a lot of soot due to
>>> incomplete combustion. When the flame is leaned off to the ideal
>>> Complete combustion (no soot, and more blue-like flame is the key)
>>> (Stoichiometric) mix you get the emission of the blue wavelengths
>>> which are super high in caloric value. See burn temperature table of
>>> common gasses.�� Bart, I hope this will sort of clear up your
>>> questions.� Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/21/2019 7:13 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norman,
>>>> �������������� Ok , I started chewing on this and will continue to
>>>> do so until some value has resolved itself lets hope.
>>>> Question.. according to this read and study you are saying
>>>> condensation (electron pairing)has a higher value of charge with in
>>>> vs any other state? correct?
>>>> It does this more so on its descent.
>>>> If so� a condensation "tank" constructed if you will would be able
>>>> to employ itself as an on going capacitor.
>>>> So then the next challenge would be to construct an on going
>>>> environment of static value. Are you also stating that once its
>>>> discharged it has nothing left of itself to continue producing the
>>>> calculative like event ongoing? emp Unless otherwise the event is
>>>> set up to recycle? Once temps have peaked could not the peltiers
>>>> come in to play for ongoing maintenance values for input?
>>>>
>>>> 1/ Built two projects in the past one being like the crystal
>>>> compression some one posted a while back and had a very high scary
>>>> freakish shock to it.
>>>> �� I also coiled a copper pipe spiral like above the device and
>>>> found it also gave off a smaller value .
>>>> Once I took it to a dc motor and it did effect the rpm slightly? It
>>>> was odd results and study.
>>>> Also as Hector mentioned the devices worked more efficiently
>>>> pointed North. I have found this to be true.
>>>> Sometimes 1- 3% noticeably pending outside temperatures.
>>>>
>>>> 2/ In the relationship of photons to heat charge I did this
>>>> experiment...
>>>> I took a plastic tank the farmers use for spraying. Thinking 1000
>>>> liter, I constructed 200watt leds inside on the top.
>>>> On the bottom outlet I recycled the water bring it back to the top
>>>> using a pipe and installed an in line vortex with 500 n52 with a
>>>> disruptive design inside.
>>>> The purpose was to see if I could maintain an ongoing charge with
>>>> in the water structure with out using additives.� Was also thinking
>>>> of my pool and hot tub water.
>>>> I hooked up to a row of cucumbers 150ft long in a green house. With
>>>> out using no more than 5% of their usual ingredient I ran it for
>>>> two weeks.
>>>> It maintained its standard ec value and flourished. It bloomed more
>>>> than the other rows and had better tasting cucumbers lol.
>>>> You may think the mags did it by them selves, yes but how ever for
>>>> two weeks? Same water? The temp came up via the led and taco pump
>>>> collecting
>>>> a charge combined with the light and mags to my understandings
>>>> enhancing the ec.
>>>>
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* January 21, 2019 6:53 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]; Bert Pool; Bob Paddock; joel mcclain;
>>>> Lane Wootan; Mbking42; Steven Elswick; Walt; Angel Alvarez; Fredric
>>>> Fletcher; Jon Gentry; Jeane Manning; Toby Grotz
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] plasma magnet
>>>>
>>>> Ok, Guys, remember what I told you in my paper, What is Heat.� Heat
>>>> is positive ionization and cold is negative ionization. Its all in
>>>> the conversion of electrons into photons as in the case of positive
>>>> ionization and the pairing of photons back into electrons, negative
>>>> ionization,as in the case of cooling. The element Gadolinium
>>>> accomplishes the conversion in the presence or absence of a
>>>> magnetic field. Tesla's Pyro Ferromagnetic Generator worked this
>>>> way with the molecular phase shift ( face center cubic to body
>>>> centered cubic) at the thermal curie points of iron.� Everything in
>>>> chemistry and physics is electrical based.��� Please understand, as
>>>> an example, boiling water at the phase change into a vapor
>>>> (positive ionization) electrons are converted into emitted photons,
>>>> IR radiation and upon cooling the photon pairing provides the
>>>> electrons for the water stricture to return to the liquid state.�
>>>> In effect, you have an electron pump as demonstrated by Armstrong's
>>>> Steam Electrostatic Generator.
>>>>
>>>> Here is something very important to consider in the Up and Down
>>>> conversion of electrons in that at the simple, relative low
>>>> temperature phase change process as is the case of water, it has
>>>> been proven that more energy exist at the condensation process
>>>> (electron paring) over the evaporation process.�� This has been an
>>>> age old paradox.� When I started exploring the
>>>> Annihilation-Reconnect phenomenon of magnetic flux, it was obvious
>>>> that an order of magnitude discrepancy occurs at the conversion of
>>>> magnetic flux into the photon-virtual photon emission then the
>>>> paring at the re-connect phase giving the violent EMP pulse.�� Just
>>>> a thought.� At the super high temperatures (positive ionization) in
>>>> a hot plasma the energy equation get stood on its ear.� A huge
>>>> amount of energy is manifest at the Re-connect, down conversion.
>>>> Magneto-Electric.
>>>>
>>>> What is Heat #3
>>>>
>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>
>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>
>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>
>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>
>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>
>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>
>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>
>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>
>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>
>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>
>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>
>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>
>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>
>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>
>>>> Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>
>>>> Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>
>>>> Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>
>>>> Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>
>>>> Melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>
>>>> Reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>
>>>> Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> Materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>
>>>> Differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>
>>>> Available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>
>>>> The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>
>>>> Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>
>>>> Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>
>>>> Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>
>>>> Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>
>>>> Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>
>>>> Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>
>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>
>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>
>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>
>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>
>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>
>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>
>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>
>>>> the Keely Net BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>
>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>
>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>
>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>
>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>
>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>
>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>
>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>
>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>
>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>
>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>
>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>
>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>
>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>
>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>
>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>
>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>
>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>
>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>
>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>
>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>
>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>
>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>
>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>
>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>
>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>
>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>
>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>
>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>
>>>> Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>
>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>
>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>
>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>
>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>
>>>> question of,What is heat?We were told in theschool
>>>>
>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>
>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>
>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>
>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>
>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>
>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>
>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>
>>>> more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>
>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>
>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>
>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>
>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>
>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>
>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>
>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>
>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>
>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>
>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>
>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>
>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>
>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>
>>>> processes which we were taught.Everythingin chemistry is
>>>>
>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>
>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>
>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>
>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>
>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>
>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>
>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>
>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>
>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>
>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>
>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>
>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>
>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>
>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>
>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>
>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.
>>>>
>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>
>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/2019 9:16 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bart
>>>>>
>>>>> Years ago, you made up a prototype experiment, using a rotor, with
>>>>> slanted magnets, much like some self runners seem to be displaying.
>>>>> Perhaps, it might be re-cycled, using these new magnets, with that
>>>>> heat, cold, function, when driven?
>>>>> The trick is to see exactly where this heat, and cold actually
>>>>> appear, in order to exploit this phenomenon.
>>>>> Then measuring how much energy is detected, and how much energy
>>>>> was used to make it happen needs to be tested.
>>>>> Designing a good test is the challenge.
>>>>> Even if it matches contemporary refrigeration, or heating systems,
>>>>> it might be a contender, to be competitive, if simple enough.
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 8:22 AM, [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bart
>>>>> I think I read about this before from some info you sent, in a
>>>>> nutshell, a strong neodymium magnet being pushed towards the
>>>>> gandolimium (sp?)stuff vrestez heat, but when it pulls away it
>>>>> creates cold (other way around?) So its not too difficult to
>>>>> make something mechanical or rotating to createheatorcold or
>>>>> both...maybe they are using the super strong magnets now newly
>>>>> available Norm posted rabout recently(N60 type?)
>>>>> Kone
>>>>>
>>>>