Re: [EVGRAY] plasma magnet

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Norman,
               Ok , I started chewing on this and will continue to do so until some value has resolved itself lets hope.
Question.. according to this read and study you are saying condensation (electron pairing)has a higher value of charge with in vs any other state? correct?
It does this more so on its descent.
If so  a condensation "tank" constructed if you will would be able to employ itself as an on going capacitor.
So then the next challenge would be to construct an on going environment of static value. Are you also stating that once its discharged it has nothing left of itself to continue producing the calculative like event ongoing? emp Unless otherwise the event is set up to recycle? Once temps have peaked could not the peltiers come in to play for ongoing maintenance values for input?

1/   Built two projects in the past one being like the crystal compression some one posted a while back and had a very high scary freakish shock to it.
     I also coiled a copper pipe spiral like above the device and found it also gave off a smaller value .
Once I took it to a dc motor and it did effect the rpm slightly? It was odd results and study.
Also as Hector mentioned the devices worked more efficiently pointed North. I have found this to be true.
Sometimes 1- 3% noticeably pending outside temperatures.

2/   In the relationship of photons to heat charge I did this experiment...
   I took a plastic tank the farmers use for spraying. Thinking 1000 liter, I constructed 200watt leds inside on the top.
On the bottom outlet I recycled the water bring it back to the top using a pipe and installed an in line vortex with 500 n52 with a disruptive design inside.
The purpose was to see if I could maintain an ongoing charge with in the water structure with out using additives.  Was also thinking of my pool and hot tub water.
I hooked up to a row of cucumbers 150ft long in a green house. With out using no more than 5% of their usual ingredient I ran it for two weeks.
It maintained its standard ec value and flourished. It bloomed more than the other rows and had better tasting cucumbers lol.
You may think the mags did it by them selves, yes but how ever for two weeks? Same water? The temp came up via the led and taco pump collecting
a charge combined with the light and mags to my understandings enhancing the ec.

Bart



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Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] plasma magnet



Ok, Guys, remember what I told you in my paper, What is Heat.  Heat is positive ionization and cold is negative ionization. Its all in the conversion of electrons into photons as in the case of positive ionization and the pairing of photons back into electrons, negative ionization,as in the case of cooling. The element Gadolinium accomplishes the conversion in the presence or absence of a magnetic field.  Tesla's Pyro Ferromagnetic Generator worked this way with the molecular phase shift ( face center cubic to body centered cubic) at the thermal curie points of iron.  Everything in chemistry and physics is electrical based.    Please understand, as an example, boiling water at the phase change into a vapor (positive ionization) electrons are converted into emitted photons, IR radiation and upon cooling the photon pairing provides the electrons for the water stricture to return to the liquid state.  In effect, you have an electron pump as demonstrated by Armstrong's Steam Electrostatic Generator.

Here is something very important to consider in the Up and Down conversion of electrons in that at the simple, relative low temperature phase change process as is the case of water, it has been proven that more energy exist at the condensation process (electron paring) over the evaporation process.   This has been an age old paradox.  When I started exploring the Annihilation-Reconnect phenomenon of magnetic flux, it was obvious that an order of magnitude discrepancy occurs at the conversion of magnetic flux into the photon-virtual photon emission then the paring at the re-connect phase giving the violent EMP pulse.   Just a thought.  At the super high temperatures (positive ionization) in a hot plasma the energy equation get stood on its ear.  A huge amount of energy is manifest at the Re-connect, down conversion.   Magneto-Electric.

                     What is Heat #3









For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of

heating and cooling associated with the phase change of

liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of

electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this

interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted

from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My

line of thinking really took off back when I experimented

with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in

electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most

people do not understand how these devices move thermal

energy through a current flow across a semiconductor

junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,

Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was

applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that

electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier

discovered that when a direct current was applied to two

Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not

Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of

Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of

Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then

Melted when the polarity of the direct current was

Reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100

Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor

Materials which could provide the wide temperature

Differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became

Available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In

The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling

Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a

Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced

Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore

Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical

Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high

Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first

Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years

ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a

small temperature differential across the device a weak

current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing

the differential provided a proportional increase in current

and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the

wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on

the Keely Net BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of

how electron flow could move thermal energy across the

junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving

thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly

reversible situation based on polarity.

Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in

refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase

change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have

always been led to believe that evaporating water provided

cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same

mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the

condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would

you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change

provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840

Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on

escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one

of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.

Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with

the electrical output resulting from the steam friction

passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)

Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the

phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and

not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or

gain electrons in the process which accounts for the

discrepancy in the energy equation when a material

transitions between phases.  More energy is present after

the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The

text book stated that this phenomenon could not be

explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by

Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a

Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change

of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is

totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions

were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an

electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental

question of,  What is heat?    We were told in the  school

that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence

of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at

a very simple example of heating which may explain this

process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is

heated because electrons in the material are converted to

photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light

leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The

more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.  Now

the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water

from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a

net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the

ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame

(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons

which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic

structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.

Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current

across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy

(ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or

absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to

how the process works.  All phase change processes work the

same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical

processes which we were taught.  Everything  in chemistry is

an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level

based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.

At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago

we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in

which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the

cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on

negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly

cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a

very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion

generator operates at very high voltages with very little

current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion

transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical

output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember

that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal

differential will cause a development of current and voltage

as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will

provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.

Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line

of experimentation.   Norm

On 1/19/2019 9:16 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Bart

Years ago, you made up a prototype experiment, using a rotor, with slanted magnets, much like some self runners seem to be displaying.
Perhaps, it might be re-cycled, using these new magnets, with that heat, cold, function, when driven?
The trick is to see exactly where this heat, and cold actually appear, in order to exploit this phenomenon.
Then measuring how much energy is detected, and how much energy was used to make it happen needs to be tested.
Designing a good test is the challenge.
Even if it matches contemporary refrigeration, or heating systems, it might be a contender, to be competitive, if simple enough.
Cheers Warren

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On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 8:22 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
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Hi Bart
I think I read about this before from some info you sent, in a nutshell, a strong neodymium magnet being pushed towards the gandolimium (sp?)stuff vrestez heat, but when it pulls away it creates cold (other way around?) So its not too difficult to make something mechanical or rotating to createheatorcold or both...maybe they are using the super strong magnets now newly available Norm posted rabout recently(N60 type?)
Kone