Body
Warren,
Hector is breaking it down!
What is the definitive factor between a transverse wave and a Tesla
electric sound wave? How would you define the difference and what
creates longitudinal pumping?
On 12/29/2018 9:08 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hector
>
> Have you ever heard of wearing pearls in front of swine?
> I have to sort of blink, and go "Duh?"
> with your heroic cinder block toss, because I am not sure exactly what
> you are talking about, except, where the extra energy, we find coming
> out of the RV, is coming from?
> The side band carrier wave of a frequency modulated transmitter?
> There are lots of words there.
> Let us look what we are doing.
> We take a 5 amp 12 volt lead acid battery and connect a 12 volt to 120
> volt ac inverter to it, producing 125 watts of 120 ac?(of course you
> can't start a 3 hp RV on that supply, you get it up to speed using the
> grid, then switch over, while at 1780 rpm) now tuning the RV
> capacitors to the least draw, say, 200ma@ 120 volts?
> Now on your capacitor circuit you have a single pole single throw
> switch shunted off in series.
> Also connected to the terminals of that same switch, is a multi
> purpose hardware store transformer primary pair of wires.
> While the RV is at full speed, you open the shunted switch, putting
> the primary windings into the capacitance circuit of the RV.
> In the numerous secondary options of that transformer, there is a 12.8
> volts, measured, coming out.
> Put a bridge diode rectifier on that turning the ac, to dc.
> Put a dc load on that secondary, tuning your capacitance running the
> RV to minimum amperage draw.( this pre-supposes that you have made a
> good, well built, capacitor tuning box, with proper switches, and hard
> wired, rather than screwing about with jumpers, and alligator clips!)
> You then find you put in from the battery 1.5 amps, at 12 volts dc,
> and get 2.5 amps dc 12 volts dc, at the load.
> So where is this FM sideband coming out of? And what do you mean by
> that, anyway.
> Remember, you are not just talking to me, you are addressing the
> world, so keep your explanation in small practical words, so others
> will understand, too.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 7:52 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Power factor in a sense is a side band FM modulation of the ac
> power carrier frequency ...as power factor shifts the phase angle
> so also the frequency ....
>
> There! i threw the cinder block in the store front window !
>
> that is how the RV virtual phase is created !
>
>
> (H)
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> ---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :
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> Hi Mick,
>
> I didn't know that a spark gap creates FM modulation. But the
> secondary breakdown through the semiconducting crystal behaves
> like a spark gap with its negative resistance characteristic. The
> modulation must depend on the external circuit. The breakdown can
> be triggered by the base or just by reaching the breakdown voltage
> of the device.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Ole,
>
> Thanks for the good info.
>
> Do you know if a high speed avalanche transistor creates an FM
> modulation as does a spark gap?
>
> On 12/28/2018 2:16 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> "Can you explain how and if avalanche currents in certain
>> transistors can
>> mimic multipaction and the electron multiplication of
>> secondary emission?"
>> The second breakdown
>> <https://wiki2.org/en/Second_breakdown#Secondary_breakdown>
>> acts like an avalanche that can't be stopped except by
>> disrupting the current from outside the transistor. The
>> first breakdown is kind of like the Zener effect while
>> the secondary breakdown is a negative resistance
>> characteristic where the transistor shorts.
>>
>> "You mentioned awhile back a concept of power
>> multiplication through
>> avalanche mode rather than resonance as the system could
>> be much less
>> finicky. Could you elaborate on this concept?"
>> The avalanche is like a solid state spark gap and happens
>> very fast like in a few nsec or less.
>> https://wiki2.org/en/Avalanche_transistor
>>
>> Bipolar transistors optimized to be used in avalanche
>> mode:
>> https://www.diodes.com/products/discrete/bipolar-transistors/special-function-transistors/avalanche-transistors/
>> Normal bipolar transistors aren't optimized for avalanche
>> mode operation and their breakdown parameters may vary a
>> lot even having the same type number. They'll still show
>> the breakdown effect.
>>
>> Understanding Power Transistors Breakdown Parameters:
>> https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AN1628-D.PDF
>>
>> "It is interesting to note that during multipaction
>> events much of the
>> technology present is designed to limit the amplification
>> event to
>> prevent damage to the devices."
>> If the device melts or explodes it's no longer useful.
>> This is a good reason for limiting the effect. This means
>> the current must be limited or cut off from the outside
>> as the device can't do it after being triggered.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>> --In [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>> Ole,
>>
>> Can you explain how and if avalanche currents in certain
>> transistors can
>> mimic multipaction and the electron multiplication of
>> secondary emission?
>>
>> You mentioned awhile back a concept of power
>> multiplication through
>> avalanche mode rather than resonance as the system could
>> be much less
>> finicky. Could you elaborate on this concept?
>>
>> It is interesting to note that during multipaction events
>> much of the
>> technology present is designed to limit the amplification
>> event to
>> prevent damage to the devices.
>>
>> Great data here:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipactor_effect
>>
>> More intense version:
>>
>> https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1112/1112.2176.pdf
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