Re: [EVGRAY] An old idea

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Warren if you created a secondary line of copper for a insulated barn you
could switch over if it does shut you down .might never switch back .

On Sunday, December 9, 2018, Randy Hébert [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> What's the make and model of the pump? I live about 70 Km from Winnipeg
> and would like to look into it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> *Date: *Sun, Dec 9, 2018 3:51 PM
> *To: *[email protected];
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> *Subject:*Re: [EVGRAY] An old idea
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> Mick
> This untested heat pump, as yet fired up, comes from Winnipeg, with
> technology from Norway.
> It is the only one that is supposed to work at -30C
> It is variable brushless dc of 220 volts, requiring a 20 amp breaker in
> the panel, but claiming 10.2 amp consumption.
> We will see.....?
> The local hardware store just delivered a wood stove, just in case.
> We have more firewood than we can use in a year, just picking up the
> fallen sugar maple limbs  some more than 30" diameter.
> We have gone through 16 chain saw blades so far, since moving in.
> The old square nails are bad to hit, doing barn beams.
> We are also putting solar panels on the roofs for PV collection
> It will be about getting off the grid, then seeing how practical it can be.
> I have lived quite a number of years off grid, in my schooner, so, it
> really is no big deal, with access to so much space.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 11:23 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Warren,
>
> Ole is right about the heat pump, will not work efficiently in your -temp
> climate without something warmer evap side like underground, too bad about
> all the bedrock, some people in similar situations were using deep
> boreholes instead of the horizontal geo piping such as old water wells.
>
> The concept of the magnet dropping down the copper pipe in slow motions,
> perhaps a heater with a motor spinning neo's against a copper heat
> exchanger might be more efficient as it uses the energy of the magnets.
> Also the RV powering an electrolyser where the excess heat is a design
> feature rather than a flaw.  Could be the welder setup with a yoke speaker
> magnet to make the heating vortex of water from Lorentz force as Stan Deyo
> displayed in his antigrav video.
>
> Did you ever look into the cavitation water hammer pumps to see if that
> would work for you?
>
> Just some ideas...
>
>
>
> On 12/8/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> James
> The roof has sprayed on urethane foam, R 7 per inch X 4"
> The walls are 26 " solid stone, the floor  5" concrete on 3" urethane
> foam, in the stone barn.
> I have no idea what the R factor of solid stone is, if at all, any.
> I think it acts as a heat capacitor
> Cheers Warren
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> On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 2:56 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Thanks norm will look in to it   Warren a couple of thisngs  one you could
> go to r30 insulation like they use in Alaska .or use propane pluse heating
> ...very good for max thermal useage with propane .or see if they have
> natural gas available in your area .that's best ..no storage .....I like
> the r30 because it's a one time expenditure. And lasts for a life time .but
> a combo of pluse and r30 would be sweet ...on another topic I was wondering
> if you might know what kind of out put you might get on your RV if you ran
> it on 220 v ?.with a 220 v Variac ?..thing Hector could stop fighting
> acilies long enough to say ?. Marry Christmas guys good hunting .
>
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>
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> James, Heat pumping works due to thermal differentials. Believe it or not
> but Industrial MVR (Mechanical Vapor Re-compression) has achieved a
> fantastic 40:1 COP. Domestic Heat Pumps run around a COP of 6:1. (scroll
> compressors).  See:
>
> https://www. scientificamerican.com/ article/the-temperature-of- the-earths-inter/ <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-temperature-of-the-earths-inter/>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump>
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>  On 12/7/2018 5:34 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Warren
> I've heard of people using a deep well like 350 ft down for heat pumps it
> seems it gets hot down there .and can be used for heating and energy
> extraction ..probley not cheap .
>
> On Friday, December 7, 2018, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
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> Hector's Rotorvertor works.
> One can harvest AC from the series circuit with the capacitors, with a
> factor of 1.614 times the input, as tested by myself. Others have achieved
> 1.618 times, doing a bit better, scrubbing the grease from the bearings,
> and removing the neoprene seals.
> (This is over unity by standards, that Tiller, and Bearden, should have
> noted)
> Moving on, what would be the problem with energising the Transvertor using
> this capacitor circuit from the Rotovertor?
> I'm sure that Hector has done this a million times and powers his
> appartment building, just so, but it only occured to me now, to try to do
> this with that monster three phase transformer, I have been dragging around
> several hundred miles, after being a 450 lb toe stubber in my studio in
> Toronto.
> Duh, what if I tune, to power the first winding of that transformer, using
> my 3 hp WEG Rotovertor, as a source of AC?
> My capacitor tuning box has a fairly good range of capability of
> capacitance, and 600 volt oil filled capacitors.
> Could a country bumkin, like myself, then take power from the third coil
> of the big three phase tranaformer?
> Would it be a compounded factor of efficiency around 1.614 X 1.614, or
> would....nothing happen....nothing significant, just a meter twitch....120
> volts in, 120 volts out...how about 220 volts in, and 220 volts out?
> All that is mere speculation, except for the Rotovertor which we have
> established the performance of.
> Sven is working away on the firing up of a Transvertor transformer.
> I am awaiting heat in my stone workshop, just so the Rotovertor doesn't
> bog down in its own solidified grease. Then there is the issue of picking
> up that transformer, using the Cat excavator to move it into the warm,
> cozy, heated, stone barn, before the big snow comes.
> I am curious if anybody has bothered with such an experiment, such as
> this, and if so, how did they go about it?
> Way back when, we had a file of pictures for each of us, on yahoo.
> For somebody like me, it was great to be able to check out everyone's
> file, to see the various projects on the go.
> Also, for the future, I thought it would be there, as history, a
> comforting thought.
> As it is, we are free to bumble along, repeating each other's failed
> experiments, and not trying to replicate the successes, trial and error,
> without checking the history.
> 1.614X 1.614?
> Cheers Warren
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