Re: [EVGRAY] An old idea

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What's the make and model of the pump? I live about 70 Km from Winnipeg and would like to look into it.

Thanks.

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From: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Date: Sun, Dec 9, 2018 3:51 PM
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Mick

This untested heat pump, as yet fired up, comes from Winnipeg, with technology from Norway.
It is the only one that is supposed to work at -30C
It is variable brushless dc of 220 volts, requiring a 20 amp breaker in the panel, but claiming 10.2 amp consumption.
We will see.....?
The local hardware store just delivered a wood stove, just in case.
We have more firewood than we can use in a year, just picking up the fallen sugar maple limbs  some more than 30" diameter.
We have gone through 16 chain saw blades so far, since moving in.
The old square nails are bad to hit, doing barn beams.
We are also putting solar panels on the roofs for PV collection
It will be about getting off the grid, then seeing how practical it can be.
I have lived quite a number of years off grid, in my schooner, so, it really is no big deal, with access to so much space.
Cheers Warren
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 11:23 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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Warren,

Ole is right about the heat pump, will not work efficiently in your -temp climate without something warmer evap side like underground, too bad about all the bedrock, some people in similar situations were using deep boreholes instead of the horizontal geo piping such as old water wells.

The concept of the magnet dropping down the copper pipe in slow motions, perhaps a heater with a motor spinning neo's against a copper heat exchanger might be more efficient as it uses the energy of the magnets.  Also the RV powering an electrolyser where the excess heat is a design feature rather than a flaw.  Could be the welder setup with a yoke speaker magnet to make the heating vortex of water from Lorentz force as Stan Deyo displayed in his antigrav video.

Did you ever look into the cavitation water hammer pumps to see if that would work for you?

Just some ideas...



On 12/8/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


James

The roof has sprayed on urethane foam, R 7 per inch X 4"
The walls are 26 " solid stone, the floor  5" concrete on 3" urethane foam, in the stone barn.
I have no idea what the R factor of solid stone is, if at all, any.
I think it acts as a heat capacitor
Cheers Warren
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 2:56 PM, James Glinski [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
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Thanks norm will look in to it   Warren a couple of thisngs  one you could go to r30 insulation like they use in Alaska .or use propane pluse heating ...very good for max thermal useage with propane .or see if they have natural gas available in your area .that's best ..no storage .....I like the r30 because it's a one time expenditure. And lasts for a life time .but a combo of pluse and r30 would be sweet ...on another topic I was wondering if you might know what kind of out put you might get on your RV if you ran it on 220 v ?.with a 220 v Variac ?..thing Hector could stop fighting acilies long enough to say ?. Marry Christmas guys good hunting .

On Saturday, December 8, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



James, Heat pumping works due to thermal differentials. Believe it or not but Industrial MVR (Mechanical Vapor Re-compression) has achieved a fantastic 40:1 COP. Domestic Heat Pumps run around a COP of 6:1. (scroll compressors).  See:

https://www. scientificamerican.com/ article/the-temperature-of- the-earths-inter/<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-temperature-of-the-earths-inter/>

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_heat_pump>





On 12/7/2018 5:34 PM, James Glinski [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Warren

I've heard of people using a deep well like 350 ft down for heat pumps it seems it gets hot down there .and can be used for heating and energy extraction ..probley not cheap .

On Friday, December 7, 2018, Warren Keillor [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Hector's Rotorvertor works.

One can harvest AC from the series circuit with the capacitors, with a factor of 1.614 times the input, as tested by myself. Others have achieved 1.618 times, doing a bit better, scrubbing the grease from the bearings, and removing the neoprene seals.
(This is over unity by standards, that Tiller, and Bearden, should have noted)
Moving on, what would be the problem with energising the Transvertor using this capacitor circuit from the Rotovertor?
I'm sure that Hector has done this a million times and powers his appartment building, just so, but it only occured to me now, to try to do this with that monster three phase transformer, I have been dragging around several hundred miles, after being a 450 lb toe stubber in my studio in Toronto.
Duh, what if I tune, to power the first winding of that transformer, using my 3 hp WEG Rotovertor, as a source of AC?
My capacitor tuning box has a fairly good range of capability of capacitance, and 600 volt oil filled capacitors.
Could a country bumkin, like myself, then take power from the third coil of the big three phase tranaformer?
Would it be a compounded factor of efficiency around 1.614 X 1.614, or would....nothing happen....nothing significant, just a meter twitch....120 volts in, 120 volts out...how about 220 volts in, and 220 volts out?
All that is mere speculation, except for the Rotovertor which we have established the performance of.
Sven is working away on the firing up of a Transvertor transformer.
I am awaiting heat in my stone workshop, just so the Rotovertor doesn't bog down in its own solidified grease. Then there is the issue of picking up that transformer, using the Cat excavator to move it into the warm, cozy, heated, stone barn, before the big snow comes.
I am curious if anybody has bothered with such an experiment, such as this, and if so, how did they go about it?
Way back when, we had a file of pictures for each of us, on yahoo.
For somebody like me, it was great to be able to check out everyone's file, to see the various projects on the go.
Also, for the future, I thought it would be there, as history, a comforting thought.
As it is, we are free to bumble along, repeating each other's failed experiments, and not trying to replicate the successes, trial and error, without checking the history.
1.614X 1.614?
Cheers Warren

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