Re: Repulsion/induction motor

Database ID: 111052
2018-12-07T05:47:38+00:00
michael_cardiff <[email protected]>

← View thread

Message-ID
<YTXPR01MB06074A25C983A1EF9B0F41F18AAA0@YTXPR01MB0607.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
In-Reply-To: NONE

Body

I know a little about I R motors I about installing a switch to isolate the  brushes from the circuit to see if it would work as a generator but I never got around to it .  Anyway  IR motors  were still available in the late 70's but if I remember correctly the 5hp that we needed at time for a conveyor was close to 3000$ and was special order which was a hell of a lot coin at the time.My boss  said no way when he could buy  a 5 cap start motor for a few hundred $ We installed the new motor but it would only start with out a load ,we replaced that with a 7.5hp still no start we ended using a 10hp which still started hard but it worked ,but it was probably half the physical size and the price was less than a  1/3  of a 3hp R I.       I like to put them on compressors, In my opinion A 3hp IR will replace a 7.5 hp cap start any day of the week in hard start applications and the energy costs are way less. (eg:compressors) I have rescued lots of them from our local scrap yard and I only had a couple that were actually burned up and  could not repair with new brushes and bearings . The compressor I have in my shop was the largest head the Princess Auto sold and at 600 rpm  required a 5 hp..and at 800 a 7.5 hp. I run it with a 3 hp at 850rpm 120 psi on 140 off Draws 16 amps.

Headers

Return-Path <[email protected]>
Received (qmail 17029 invoked by uid 102); 8 Dec 2018 09:40:55 -0000
Received from unknown (HELO mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.198.29.78) by m11.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2018 09:40:55 -0000
Received (qmail 9199 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2018 09:40:55 -0000
Received from unknown (HELO mta4004.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (10.218.140.75) by mtaq5.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2018 09:40:55 -0000
X-Original-Return-Path <[email protected]>
Received-SPF softfail (transitioning domain of hotmail.com does not designate 66.163.185.211 as permitted sender)
X-Rocket-Filter dmarc-result=pass;
X-Rocket-Track cat=UK; info=url2db:UK<url=hotmail.com,pri=0>;sgor:UK;abaca:UK<1006, fh=mta4004; fi=98.138.57.72:14050; rg=U; GT=0; fs=1006; ns=190; ws=82,ABI,-172,-26,80,0,0,0,0,200,0,0,N,N; nn=1,-26,16,200,0,0; cn=965,1762,14,35,238,-8191,0,63,0,0,0,5.91,4.09; ex=E,b,0000,FLMQRSTUY; sk=M5/XeX299PP; yd=0,1,0,-1; st=AS; id=UZb8enB8-B80940s71; rv=master.23-geeb5f9f/98.138.57.72:14051; ts=TQTZB; gv=160; fp=CBHxgg; or=BAA; gd=1; fl=EAAoAA; ip=66.163.185.211; ht=1; so=4; oc=0; oL=3; co=n; ha=FuDPOchz66s; hs=CFp8DFHkPSw; hz=CFp8DFHkPSw:FuDPOchz66s:NAAAB; al=NAAAB; ho=PVv8BNYNGzZ; hd=FuDPOchz66s; hf=BlBFeB6PXfF; hF=Kzf3jlXmCxo; hj=JBhgLTffmha; rt=F//Jq2p7rw8; hr=BlBFeB6PXfF; sd=GiTQvsu9t+W,0:1,0,0:1,0,0,0,1,1,1,0,w,w; ZM=CLZPpB1casx; ZB=OChP6feI9g; ZB=CNujaBZNa8j; ZB=MLcjssbJcDq; ZB=M4W/9dp8hzh; ZB=GoGdv/pvENK; ZF=NaAkrGoy+H0;, SRV_OR=1,WS_OR=1,WSS_OR=1,OR=1,AB_WS_IP=0,AB_WSS_IP=0>
X-RocketAttachment type=text/plain;type=text/html;
X-Rocket-MIMEInfo 002.001,SSBrbm93IGEgbGl0dGxlIGFib3V0IEkgUiBtb3RvcnMgSSBhYm91 dCBpbnN0YWxsaW5nIGEgc3dpdGNoIHRvIGlzb2xhdGUgdGhlIGJydXNoZXMg ZnJvbSB0aGUgY2lyY3VpdCB0byBzZWUgaWYgaXQgd291bGQgd29yayBhcyBh IGdlbmVyYXRvciBidXQgSSBuZXZlciBnb3QgYXJvdW5kIHRvIGl0IC4gQW55 d2F5IElSIG1vdG9ycyB3ZXJlIHN0aWxsIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBpbiB0aGUgbGF0 ZSA3MCdzIGJ1dCBpZiBJIHJlbWVtYmVyIGNvcnJlY3RseSB0aAEwAQEBAQN0 ZXh0L3BsYWluAwMwAgN0ZXh0L2h0bWwDAzI-
X-YMailISG I1A4eHsWLDu2e7_9FtgUG80szi2HUkbl56G_pKQRVubdjwxs QniPNJrpKHrjc2qpnue6KD_M0EloKbKxjtNFSqvnskVODOYyBIr1VtuIH4Yc uWs9Wo7LZZ9dfQAM_r8Dzutv0ShrpdeVPUbD5t0fIZyg69SobSe4ezuN46c3 2lhqr0c_64_R8_Ww8t9QA48si2cnw5wqgjRdZF9qY83GvulpcwJ9agBjevPv bsid35c1BGe1EWscn.5UjmEyKUr3oDRIvYSrhCt86KZAzaZWtKMLf12.gqf3 e2h_NABqKD2BfEjlfiZren9uHVaRbrY4D8FptlwWtUGRcgmq1u1vvRX.5bQc 7S7xpn.GBYH7QmzCY_CcGdrCorngQjZpdHQRRdvx51l0TUUJAIkV06G7s7Og iH7AcGPeDSzoigMme0kqprfYx_kzKM6YIAj6zdpENxb9_8F5saKSQWQVRGfK szkD0F4KPNhYWQlElSdv_97n_LbViHKmUj6azmSXvyN7T_BK0EbP4MBlRX30 arJ1QUuVM9nxEWsRPNeTYi5OfKQ3jzjlDix9WEHoZVPGc9vfl6w4vstJl1wz I8dbiTr60nJfhILnDrk7XDPplXx3cvPkLJ_u8S3iEF4xdkWpv4xm64uKlFzz .XnHwf1E0UFAJhvg5SRDc5_Dk55h1RgmBkfIqPj8EojoJ_i...gR6SWhGGT2 X7hZR7Cx9wpdriKCrPU9tzeEOBO.5Cc32EKGhpdwUaCmrLmWOxnYpNDcGIJi o4PyFweWmEJ6rWtm09JN.JU58lxcpxIrbeKKzCjx5xGfkaCVAfZjSOQkFLFY 9kdyv9Bun1i0JFwLCgVpboHr4qfOwYCooIzYTJIfKYd7PSz8Ca.Rx2ViosPf tTFZkywdYFyFD7exdvZqzZMsfaFnouvUvRv8zTas_uMKnsW2EpOW9mcUgEPf hjFI_xjBh570JcZBLoxojNdKMeo5sC5TS5jlsGCwDbzoOzREeotO9cENu.EX DMfIoMg9Y8n1s9.tEmTxZda3_PFcfkvIMf4NacFsT753PO78ifIv5VhmPhuU afsbAdTiqI9Zli5yFkXH2B5nwjaJpJvuHWZ37OPaQ15_nmnY9jvurI2Y1yg8 AI6B8xoTnDYMg2Hary7z0Bng_hDiDj4.dwkllf6GWp2.Ip6sZAM6Ob4yhP0z V4OeYR_h5qwVcQxHa0EVwrZ2
X-RocketHELO sonic321-30.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
X-RocketMAILFROM [email protected]
X-RocketRCPTTO [email protected]
X-RocketMSGID [email protected]#0
X-Originating-IP [66.163.185.211]
Authentication-Results mta4004.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com from=yahoogroups.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=yahoogroups.com; dkim=pass (ok)
Received from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO sonic321-30.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (66.163.185.211) by mta4004.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 09:40:54 +0000
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=echoe; t=1544262054; bh=Us1I1Pupdq3SXy44HOu0J290lePJ3aLCAtm4ojXe6Uw=; h=Date:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:From:Subject; b=TPxK5wuUuh3O/iWNwYSnScic6khjFun+mmOAFV7DceNdXzdztO1SuWV6h+m1PAftosQgkuyuquX0rx3a6lo952NQagh7g1x6AMEoFbeJ5g/XWyEHbFL2V6RdnCK6qyGyO4y5B4qzWxWVLi15eOJD70RZL2i5QwZgEq7juca7Cg8=
Received from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic321.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 09:40:54 +0000
Received from [127.0.0.1] by gapi16.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2018 09:40:54 -0000
X-Sender [email protected]
X-Apparently-To [email protected]
X-Received (qmail 45769 invoked by uid 102); 7 Dec 2018 05:47:40 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com) (10.198.29.79) by m13.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2018 05:47:40 -0000
X-Received (qmail 2512 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2018 05:47:39 -0000
X-Received from unknown (HELO mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com) (10.221.10.34) by mtaq6.grp.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2018 05:47:39 -0000
X-Original-Return-Path <[email protected]>
X-Received-SPF pass (domain of hotmail.com designates 40.92.2.100 as permitted sender)
X-YMailISG touksEUWLDuKKLED5t4Znfo2H0IfNpO49Gt6XKt9jmtWZ8Un jER6SWWW9lfraPf_AgbHXAfB2xXzZZaSgOh26YNx0R_JNSNW0ZbvvKYIrTzQ cgTGcv0Ek6O0ls92drOWwmsRMHqFRqlNAWUU0J_L8zIX3jtVPTjRNmBIX7LN KxKEYitmvLJT6V2c8O2jxhBPrOLWdlsBE0mW9FXpUl89d7o3IhP.KYLXnT.O QOqRM1crOyyRqEZHNjRWq2Rt44wHCpEstTKkaDpiu4E5dgkfl1mW9Fi8dfW7 iFteXWo0vFTyGMMfKyF21FL8a5qYOUCsLtvgCm57CoKCDwg6Zc2j7qSy0W_L XFFxBpzWUS3fWODqBLilUAjjjeABWRVTtwccXjc.VtyHgEzebVfXQrniC0I8 YSCZKhp393._3s3wYYUAh.0_qB_cmk96QCH5rhwkvDvb8WsbIT59D5qyPjhl vV7pHfztGgATJ32nnQpj9OCeRMdIAl7MZAqjHdFtVp4tAwYDIMjB.ehYlwdO QHrVFcZhW0M4Ed8ks3rl4pPFC5iwl8WjD_yqi36slbOtjwT5I5Hr00rAUZCF x0FmwxDJtEcKTq0qymsi0hjXVJbzdtqGfXXQlMlLUDicOEawNrtnsv_mhi8Z c2TXoamLwLiHkfj_cvMqU1g6qx7L1n.6OTrl.Fe_.CBqkMgJJ22PSNO7f5x9 IdBLJzBd4BGjlq6jgRIbzEb6Zpb3G1Bw0zGM8DaQIEQ_r3ig13bsOblUDkVd Uhcbco7mn82dWSzr3k7F3wieHw3NcvaeMj2cLnoVMnThoaI2hpgE6YSoEVFq coFfHDzN7YvBdtiCzpZ7FkfMAc4VIGrencXayG4CsiKg1wKFwiy8Gm73vgu0 .CSjR0ZxJPWWdMwUw765UpAjcCCdHFnxXXEZqUX69.DXRe5yMnjg7w84J7M2 Z4OZkrn19U4F1SDrPBt9vA9B_pd5oYRwUqBcKZMa2xAtwst5dQd591qXj53N _BVcVYeWAkyRpPCRMqkd5tyLDGwVZuMS38xowiS5YNjTFy2sNDbe1GJ73qX5 2luaD8jQX_CWZ5WKzZbzghKwINqOfg21somFHmiI0_97HeuoFWzBlWi_x_8V VD00_XopLNRzsw--
Authentication-Results mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com from=hotmail.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=hotmail.com; dkim=pass (ok)
X-Received from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO NAM01-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (40.92.2.100) by mta4003.groups.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Fri, 07 Dec 2018 05:47:39 +0000
X-Received from SN1NAM01FT026.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.64.59) by SN1NAM01HT085.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.64.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.1404.13; Fri, 7 Dec 2018 05:47:38 +0000
X-Received from YTXPR01MB0607.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.152.64.54) by SN1NAM01FT026.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.65.212) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.1404.13 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 7 Dec 2018 05:47:38 +0000
X-Received from YTXPR01MB0607.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::61d8:81eb:6ac4:795f]) by YTXPR01MB0607.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::61d8:81eb:6ac4:795f%2]) with mapi id 15.20.1404.021; Fri, 7 Dec 2018 05:47:38 +0000
Thread-Topic Repulsion/induction motor
Thread-Index AQHUjeTe5yfL+iu0kkScI5Dk7gnJhA==
Date Fri, 07 Dec 2018 05:47:38 +0000
Message-ID <YTXPR01MB06074A25C983A1EF9B0F41F18AAA0@YTXPR01MB0607.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Accept-Language en-CA, en-US
Content-Language en-CA
X-MS-Has-Attach
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator
x-incomingtopheadermarker OriginalChecksum:BFCF111010B5077C915D577929A24E7DC06903B8B459A0428C61FA6457B15DEC;UpperCasedChecksum:01D91FA2BC940F6302CC4DDA7FF4BC945AED46CE6B0F975450152B533D614478;SizeAsReceived:6847;Count:43
x-tmn [dE5WSr/UzAZZgbFDMMPGLMHLKzUsdJEHuoKkPvHuJ6I=]
x-ms-publictraffictype Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics 1;SN1NAM01HT085;6:GFB0LyleqaRm1Fo9clKj0SW8lY1slUh/p6k8eyL8MvcIFNjqXc/QqqefEkzO2XJofxtzuI1cymb40ZmGTHCbkgX78Q3ENBmB+EcDdw76KgXQG4lfZP4O9f4tWub8OQ6KUZKfNqnXxKGwrtIq0t9Qha5BzgKRY0moCMCfi3evXHfZm2xfEiGAhQmFBt83AtSTSPix/ttpd6H69FQkPfdr403GJVn59axlNpLhDNQup7ZBjoZ5yzO4dF4KtvqnZ/J5s2x1IQeieSp2Gaw0dBe1L5LLqOUs0n/189fAphZqsYfx8otmHy7f/BixDoWyhdkLfrQk+n2YlCkaIe41ECsuqgGmKDOFOHTE738iEux9ODjcbP3ThB8O1MU0gVs/w5oUd5XFVzT223zaxvIP/jG6Ttp1VYMbfgRi1Kjx2Jjc2fM6rn/05ZXDe9RT9MKXe/u7Gxzu0Ne9k5wIoKYpPBlWDQ==;5:cxN/+XGf1QNRGuRiw+MI/4ith3Uqnx707IM4v/g8QFksp/xNTtAvPRV0/YErXSvlKjgb0otsy2DEcyM4OaqhmQfWDseZajsFYVu/xEdMuJstc+O4haUt25mfyyJkuhUmmk2lZcDLEp9wLIymvGc90C9NTy6cH5s3uGprcMdvPhM=;7:KIcf5GvtIkekoMEVCHJM5sy00bdQcYsulIMfgda0UE9GYHuJ8K7mrVKV3BRnc5vmFKHxzXRH5MJHgH3fO6dpc/9i+ByflpGMXCKUHrm4SBDvFQi3mg7fd1mnrpfz7cUIUbXTkOntcLf2UVGggTO8dQ==
x-incomingheadercount 43
x-eopattributedmessage 0
x-microsoft-antispam BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(2390098)(7020095)(201702061078)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031324274)(2017031323274)(2017031322404)(1603101475)(1601125500)(1701031045);SRVR:SN1NAM01HT085;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic SN1NAM01HT085:
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(4566010)(82015058);SRVR:SN1NAM01HT085;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:SN1NAM01HT085;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info xAFrwsz2eF4MnFKcKC2OpmlxxmnLZdhtg6mh/ZWz9e9HF2nIe+JXTvZf1cuDAn6e
Content-Type multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_YTXPR01MB06074A25C983A1EF9B0F41F18AAA0YTXPR01MB0607CANP_"
MIME-Version 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg hotmail.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg 9bd8b953-1c55-4da7-b616-8bcad099ae8b
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id 6b02e550-cdca-45ae-c816-08d65c077eeb
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg 9bd8b953-1c55-4da7-b616-8bcad099ae8b
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime 07 Dec 2018 05:47:38.2510 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader Internet
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped SN1NAM01HT085
X-Originating-IP 10.221.10.34
Subject Re: Repulsion/induction motor
X-Yahoo-Group-Post member; u=328520180; y=xgb5E8LUD_T8b8Nk3SaDbP4NkCS_PfMtFmDZ4DE5EOkXlabCmP50CVVN
X-Yahoo-Profile michael_cardiff
X-Original-From Michael Cardiff <[email protected]>
Reply-To Michael Cardiff <[email protected]>
X-Original-Return-Path Michael Cardiff <[email protected]>
To [email protected]
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property groups-system
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id groups-system
X-eGroups-Approved-By koneheadx via web; 08 Dec 2018 09:40:54 -0000
From Michael Cardiff <[email protected]>