Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Tariel device

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Hi Mick,

If the shaft is made of steel it is both a magnetic and an electric conductor which is what is adequate for an induction motor rotor. Actually it's enough to only have the rotor electric conductive as the induced current in it makes it an electromagnet. See demonstration of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcsTdtgThU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcsTdtgThU (3:57) or this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDd8ufhXCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDd8ufhXCg (3:14).


 The magnetic field is going from the stator ring radially into the shaft where it induces a current making the shaft an electromagnet of opposite polarity. The magnetic field always forms a closed loop and thus returns back into the opposite end of the coil making that field.

While looking for a demonstration video I found this motor running on hydrogen made from Coke and aluminum Coke cans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMIMP-DlQ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMIMP-DlQ4 (16:13).

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Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Ole, 

 I don't see the shaft as being split in anyway to accommodate acting as an induction rotor.  I know that Dr Tesla designed motors no one could figure out then they hired Proteus and he came up with the split aluminum induction rotor for GE but I have never seen the single metal Tesla rotor but then the egg of Colombus was not split but rotated based on the lobed shape and asymmetric field across it's taper I assume.
 Do you see a way the shaft can act as a rotor being solid and not split, or did you view something I missed?

 On 11/24/2018 9:30 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 

 The Small 9V battery powers some electronic circuit that isn't revealed. Nikola Tesla have patented the 32 ways of transferring power to the rotor without wires. I.e. the induction motor. The basic principle is two phases shifted to each other. When running only one phase is necessary. It's hard to see in the videos how many phases and poles the stator ring has. It could look like two or three wires feeding the torus coil. What matters is to deliver high power pulses. The small battery can't deliver much mean power. But if delivering the power as pulses the peak power can be very high. This is just like buying small computer speakers and reading that the power rating is more than 100W. This is single pulse peak power and is why the speakers don't catch fire when actually only capable delivering perhaps 10W RMS sine power.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Ole,
 So how does the stator induce the spin from the 9v battery?

 On 11/24/2018 7:38 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 I don't see any magnets. The only magnetic parts that I see are the stator electromagnetic coil(s) and the generator when attached to the output end. They're the only things having electrical wires to them. The rest looks pure mechanical to me.
 
 Both Kapanadze and Wesley were poisoned at their trip back to Georgia from Turkey. Wesley knew how to survive and thus didn't suffer afterwards. Kapanadze got sick.
 
 The pictures are now attached. The first ones were just drag and dropped without thought of the size. Now the total size is 229 kbyte with even more pictures. I hope Yahoo doesn't discard them this time.
 Links to the videos: 
 
 
 Video 1 (13:30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY
 Video 2 (23:09): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ&feature=player_embedded
  
 Regards
 Ole

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Thanks Ole,
 The second video still looks as if maybe there are multiple magnets with a copper strap around them, maybe some version of the metal strapping on large shipping boxes or some kind of tape.  I can see you have been analyzing and digging in to his work.    I don't get the wire part as the unit just seems to spin in one direction faster and faster rather than changing direction where a wire might make more sense.  However I am convinced he has the real deal and it's not sleight of hand else I doubt Wesley would have been poisoned on the plane when he flew over to visit.

 On 11/23/2018 6:55 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 I have this figure from a Russian forum:
 
 It was from here:
 http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtungus%2Bts%2Btk%26client%3Dsafari%26hl%3Den-gb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/46775-diski-kapanadze.html&usg=ALkJrhgTJDiUkCbLNna7H96c-DQwBOuG2Q#46775 http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtungus%2Bts%2Btk%26client%3Dsafari%26hl%3Den-gb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&u=http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/46775-diski-kapanadze.html&usg=ALkJrhgTJDiUkCbLNna7H96c-DQwBOuG2Q#46775
 But this address doesn't work anymore.
 
 There is no guarantee that this figure is correct. To me it could as well look like the shaft going right through the device and the secondary flywheel is free to rotate if it wasn't for the helical wire or spring between the two flywheels. The question is which flywheel is connected where? One end is the input and the other end is the output.

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