Body
Warren,
Should make it into multipole Bedini charger!
On 11/14/2018 3:51 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Mick
>
> I have made a base support for it so that it can be driven with a vee
> belt, which I did, and yes, it has ac between the three output/ input
> wires, as it is almost a Kone type of muller, only, with the wires
> coming through the axle, and the magnets
> travelling around the coils.
> Like you, I am using it as a learning tool.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:13 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Warren,
>
> Just buy a controller for it, it may have the hall sensors mounted
> already and try tuning it and use some steering diodes collect the
> back EMF. Sounds like a pretty easy thing to get started with and
> learn alot. Otherwise just use it as a Bedini type battery
> charger by separting the flyback pulse or as a DC generator with a
> 3 phase rectifier.
>
> If you don't want it I will take it.
>
> On 11/13/2018 6:24 PM, Warren Keillor
> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Bummer it is so complicated to follow in Brandt's footsteps.
>>
>> Why is it always made difficult?
>> A rotoverter for driver?
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 9:10 PM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Warren,
>>
>> They make a few diff models but in reference to the BLDC
>> there are all sort of things one can try and Doug is master
>> of many, however this discussion had to do with building a
>> Brandt motor, which to perform properly requires a BLDC
>> controller with variable frequency and duty cycle and
>> rewinding the motor which is not a small undertaking.
>>
>> The Brandt design uses the hall sensor placement and an
>> opposite wind every other slot of the same phase. The timing
>> on the controller is set so the opposite windings are in the
>> off position making use of the collapse, so it is an
>> assymetric motor.
>>
>> Best to start with an after market controller one that uses
>> the hall sensors to tell which phase should firing when. If
>> I were you and could find a controller like this I would run
>> a generator load off it lighting some steady load and tune
>> the thing for the least load spinning it. I would then use
>> steering diodes off all three phases to charge the battery
>> running the experiment and for every improvement in tuning
>> write down results or use a memory scope or recording
>> voltmeter to graph it.
>>
>> Mounting the hall sensors in a lexan circle one could rotate
>> after figuring out the proper spacing for them would also be
>> critical for tuning.
>>
>> This I would try first before attempting the full Brandt
>> motor with the rewind because that requires some pretty solid
>> knowledge and experience. Remember, Ronald Brandt began
>> winding motors as a child by the time he made that video he
>> had some real chops.
>>
>> On 11/13/2018 11:21 AM, Warren Keillor
>> [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>> My ears perked up when you mentioned Golden motors.
>>> How does one best exploit them?
>>> I don't happen to have a controller for my dumpster found
>>> unit. Otherwise, it is in good running shape, I think.
>>> Cheers Warren
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>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 11:52 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jakob,
>>>
>>> The number of slots is confusing as they messed up his
>>> motor but basically the gist is for every other winding
>>> of the same phase the windings are reversed in order to
>>> use the flyback pulse as an additive vector. The
>>> controller is PWM at 25kHz if I recall correctly. ON
>>> MC33035
>>>
>>> I have the controller build out PDF but it is over 20 meg
>>>
>>> Then there is another circuit on each phase with
>>> steering diodes to collect back emf and feed it back to
>>> the battery.
>>>
>>> it would not be difficult to rewind a BLDC Chinese hub
>>> motor and run it from the controller Golden motors is a
>>> good source.
>>>
>>> His original system used deep cycle lead acid the Brandt
>>> Tesla switch and could run for a couple hundred miles
>>> between charges or before the batteries got too hot, not
>>> sure of the issues but I assume he wanted a powerpack
>>> based on negative energy so it would not run down. His
>>> earlier motors were pulsed type with caps similar to EV
>>> gray as I understand it but he stalled the design after
>>> the relativistic effects of the field locking the lady
>>> in her trailer. Unfortunately there is not much info
>>> left about Ronald Brandt and the person who bought his
>>> estate likely sold out to the highest bidder whatever
>>> was left. Sad that these WITT assholes got their hooks
>>> in but one good thing may have happened. As soon as the
>>> purchaser of the estate went public Buster from Wittless
>>> open sourced Brandt's motor work, so likely a jealousy
>>> thing or a tactic to force the prices down on the asking
>>> price for remaining motors. Either or allowed us to see
>>> what normally would be stashed away. I am sure the
>>> wiitless creeps made all sorts of money promises with
>>> just enough juice to keep the wheels rolling forwards as
>>> con men are apt to do.
>>>
>>> I have never spoken to Buster but did have the
>>> displeasure of speaking to Tim Thrapp once, had a very
>>> alcohol pickled vibe, definite con man with jail background.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2018 1:18 AM, Jakob Wall [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2Mye85rFE
>>>>
>>>> Yes Mick, i could not agree more,he obviously was
>>>> putting his whole energie to do the right .
>>>>
>>>> Believe it or not it was the first time for me to hear
>>>> how much OXYGEN is used up in a fossil fuel
>>>> motor. I was allways interested zo use less fuel,
>>>> obviously, but to get this straight piece of truth so
>>>> hard was a shoke. Sadly i still could not build his
>>>> motor becouse i dont have the facts about the
>>>> nr of windings, or diameter of wire ,or current
>>>> restricting circuit or the speed control at all exept
>>>> it was
>>>> pulsed. I also dont get the relation from 49 windings
>>>> slots to 16 magnet rows.Where has the
>>>> unused one to be in three phase? I need to lern more (a
>>>> lot).
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> On Mon, 11/12/18, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] How Can the Zero-Point Energy
>>>> Become an Energy Source?
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Received: Monday, November 12, 2018, 9:24 AM
>>>>
>>>> Jakob,
>>>> Ron Brandt was a brilliant man. The creeps at Witts
>>>> somehow
>>>> befriended him. HEre is an interesting post scroll
>>>> down to Brant:
>>>> http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/NewEnergy/VTA/VTA%20-%20ATTACHMENT..pdf
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2018 11:44 PM,
>>>> Jakob Wall
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Youtube associates Ron Brandt with witts
>>>> ministries, I
>>>> associate witts with ''Give me a lot
>>>> of money
>>>>
>>>> maybe and only then i will tell you somethink,
>>>> or not''
>>>> From the obvious desing the sundance generator
>>>> with the
>>>>
>>>> exchangable coils looks very advanced, but i
>>>> have not seen
>>>> it interakt with the hummingbird motor ever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11/12/18, [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] How Can the Zero-Point
>>>> Energy Become
>>>> an Energy Source?
>>>>
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Received: Monday, November 12, 2018, 12:25
>>>> AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jakob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe that is the motor of Ron Brandt that
>>>> Dennis Lee
>>>>
>>>> usually used to spin the hummingbird
>>>> generator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look up his name and do some searching about
>>>> it...he
>>>> passed
>>>>
>>>> away while ago far as I know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One Dennis Lee video has RB.show up late to
>>>> the show, out
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> breath after driving across country he did not
>>>> look very
>>>>
>>>> healthy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The key really is no Lenz generator ...if
>>>> permanent magnet
>>>>
>>>> rotor in generator look for sweet spot in rpms
>>>> where rotor
>>>>
>>>> speeds up under generator coil loading and
>>>> Lenz law does
>>>> brake and slow down rotor.
>>>> Very generally 16 magnet rotor will have sweet
>>>> spot window
>>>>
>>>> of 2100 to 2300 rpm, this based on video Woopy
>>>> put out a
>>>> few
>>>>
>>>> years ago of simple experiment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look up youtube videos under "Thane Karl
>>>> Heinz delayed
>>>>
>>>> lenz Kone
>>>>
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