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Unpacking some of my junk
The Tesla coilPlugged it in to see if it still works.It does.Set a bent double florescent bulb on it. It really changes the type of discharge to a much bigger and heavy spark. Not only does it light up but this heavy duty lightning comes from the terminals striking a stainless steel boat railing about 8 beats per second .Maybe I can charge up some of those oil filled 400 kv capacitors to perhaps loop it through an inverter?No time for really doing anything serious, but well, just setting stuff on shelves, and playing a bit.Cheers Warren
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:
Warren!
When you go back and study the old gang tuning capacitors in your ham rigs you can readily see many different geometric configurations possible depending on how many cutting poles you want on your rotor segments with the same numbers of stator poles. I made mine very simple for a test set up for I drew a 8 inch circle and divided it into 4 pie segments. with a common around the rotating shaft. etched away the adjacent segments giving me a two pole rotating segments. the rotor plates were set screw attached to the rotating shaft with a carbon 1/4 inch rod providing an earth ground at rotor shaft chamfered (ball turning tool) end. The earth ground provides the electron input. The stator segments were layed out exactly like the rotor segments with two pole configuration and interleaved with rotor at time of assembly with an air gap seperation of 1/8 inch. Eight rotor plates and 9 stator collector square plates. The opposing collector plate segments are etched so that you have a positive terminal and a negative terminal with the proper diode array for electron check valves and high voltage collection capacitors. The very crude device worked as advertised and was fun to play with. I had a seed electrostatic generator, the old Tesla hand held ES generator that I used to seed the stator unit to jump start it. It is like the Holtz machine which unlike the Whinshurst machine, require seeding to establish polarity at start up. The Whimshurst generator always started up with proper polarity on the Leyden Jars when starting and did not requiire seeding by outside means. BTW! I used an old Singer sewing machine motor with pedal speed controller to turn the rotor assembly at 3600 RPM via a notched Gilmer belt drive. The belt drive isolated the motor from the electrostatic unit. You can design you unit with as many segments as you want for it is the chopping effect of the rapidly changing capacitance of the rotor stator relationship that does the work. If effect you have built an electron pump with diode check valves and collection capacitor reservoirs. Happy building! Norm
https://www.ebay.com/itm/391963947520
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimshurst_machine
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/holtz.html
http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Static_Electricity/Toepler-Holtz_Machine/Toepler-Holtz_Machine.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Toepler
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/electrostatic.html Literally thousands to choose from!
https://ethw.org/Electrostatic_Generator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_effect They got this one ALL WRONG for it is the phase change of the water vapor in the wood nozzle that provides the ions. They assumed it was a friction process of stripping electrons! NOT! The machine must operate at exactly the condensation temperature within the nozzle for it to work properly! One of the most powerful machine ever built.
On 10/10/2018 1:07 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norman
We have to see the geometry if possible of the relationship between two segments. For study purposes, just printing on copy paper and cutting them out, would be helpful. Cheers Warren
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 11:54 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
Warren, the operation is very easy to comprehend since in analogy to a mechanical pump, you have check valves to provide a directional flow of a gas or liquid. Same here in that you have diode arrays to take the pumped electron into uni-directional flow and accumulation. the inter-leaving rotor and stator segments give the chopping effect and charge collection via rapidly changing capacitance values! LENZ free! The variable inductance, conventional generator has the penalty of the LENZ effect.
On 10/10/2018 10:39 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norman
Although I can't download the files on my phone, they sure look interesting, and just as easy as I thought they might be to make in quantity. Printing them on fiberglass circuit board material, then etching, is not bad, so it is good there are options out there, to easily make these sectors, in quantity, as will be required.
These could be fun little no Lenz generators. I like the mention of 2' diameter Cheers Warren
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 11:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
Warren! I etched from printed circuit board material but your laser cutting is more precise and a lot easier! See the Hyde generator or segment design.
http://rexresearch.com/hyde/hyde.htm Great photos of actual machine components!
On 10/10/2018 10:07 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norman
That is a cute idea, making an air gap variable capacitance machine. It is an ideal project for a laser cutting service, rather than making stupid Christmas ornaments like most people use them for. It really doesn't matter which metal they are cutting. Stainless steel works great, laser cut out from sheet stock. Caps are usually aluminium, and anodized. I wonder what shape is needed of each sector? One might also stack machine them to shape Cheers Warren
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 10:57 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3013201A/en
On 10/10/2018 9:50 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4897592.html Mick! This is the
> machine that Charles Yost published an article on and the one that I
> built and eventually gave it to Bert Pool, Ft. Worth Tesla Coil
> Builders group!
>
>
> On 10/10/2018 9:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US2697793 After you read this
>> lengthy description of the problem with the Van de Graff belt
>> transfer method, you will so why they elected to go the Vacuum
>> dielectric media approach!
>>
>
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