Re: [EVGRAY] Electrostatic machine roughly 1 kilowatt per pound

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Oh! BTW, if you enclose the unit in an air tight enclosure and draw down 
a high vacuum, you get rid of the air drag losses and the O/U ratio goes 
up drastically!


On 10/10/2018 10:25 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> Warren & Mick, a vacuum cleaner motor turning 6,000 RPM usually draws 
> about 10 amps therefor it is 1200 watts or one HP to turn a device 
> that puts out 20KW in HVDC output.  Not bad for O/U ratio!
>
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> On 10/10/2018 10:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Warren! I etched from printed circuit board material but your laser 
>> cutting is more precise and a lot easier!  See the Hyde generator or 
>> segment design.
>>
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/hyde/hyde.htm Great photos of actual machine 
>> components!
>>
>> On 10/10/2018 10:07 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norman
>>>
>>> That is a cute idea, making an air gap variable capacitance machine.
>>> It is an ideal project for a laser cutting service, rather than 
>>> making stupid Christmas ornaments like most people use them for.
>>> It really doesn't matter which metal they are cutting. Stainless 
>>> steel works great, laser cut out from sheet stock. Caps are usually 
>>> aluminium, and anodized. I wonder what shape is needed of each 
>>> sector? One might also stack machine them to shape
>>> Cheers Warren
>>>
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>>>
>>>     On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 10:57 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US3013201A/en
>>>
>>>     On 10/10/2018 9:50 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>     > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4897592.html Mick! This is the
>>>     > machine that Charles Yost published an article on and the one
>>>     that I
>>>     > built and eventually gave it to Bert Pool, Ft. Worth Tesla Coil
>>>     > Builders group!
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > On 10/10/2018 9:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>     >> https://patents.google.com/patent/US2697793 After you read this
>>>     >> lengthy description of the problem with the Van de Graff belt
>>>     >> transfer method, you will so why they elected to go the Vacuum
>>>     >> dielectric media approach!
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>
>>
>> 
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