Re: [EVGRAY] Cap charging and use

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Yes H will leak through most pressure tanks.   The best way to store it
is to fill scuba tanks with hydride powder, to release hydrogen gently
heat the metal hydride.  Hydride energy density is very good and useful
for automobiles due to size and weight.

http://www.fuelcellstore.com/hydrogen-equipment/hydrogen-storage/bl-740-metal-hydride

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b781/192e2624db103d1b615502dd44354eff9b52.pdf

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Metal-Hydride-Hydrogen-Storage_60761300141.html

https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=hydride+powder+hydrogen+storage&viewtype=


On 10/9/2018 11:06 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> I believe that the same cylinders used for nitrogen works for
> hydrogen!  Due to molecule size it will leak through some metals!
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> On 10/9/2018 12:10 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> What material do you use as a pressure vessel for hydrogen?
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>> I have a compressed natural gas bottle of very heavy construction,
>> but it is steel.
>> Cheers Warren
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>>     On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>     James! Your mention the use of caps in the NV voltage divider
>>     instead of resistors is an interesting idea! 
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>>     Here is the problem area to be addressed in conventional
>>     capacitor charging!
>>     http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng2.html
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>>     Lets take a look at HV electrostatic charging!  Hypothetically
>>     lets take the Felici Electrostatic Generator (Example) and its
>>     3KW output. See:
>>     http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
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>>     Also, a conventional Marx generator. See:
>>     https://www.instructables.com/id/12V-180kV-A-Battery-Powered-Marx-Generator-and-int/
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>>     http://danyk.cz/marx_en.html
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>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator
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>>     Ok! Guys, we have to think everything backwards here!  With the
>>     Felici Electrostatic Generator we have a HV potential of an
>>     million volts and it outputs 3KW in useable power. As shown in
>>     the Marx generator example with 12VDC input and 180 KV battery
>>     powered unit lets play the game backwards.  We have the HVDC
>>     already, so lets set up our voltage devider circuit so the we are
>>     in effect dividing back down to the lets say 13VDC to charge our
>>     batteries!  Don't say it can't be done.  This way we can use the
>>     HVDC electrostatic as our power source and utilize the output at
>>     any step down voltage we want.  We already know that the Felici
>>     Electrostatic Generator is doing something very unusual in that
>>     it uses HIGH PRESSURE PURE HYDROGEN GAS as its working
>>     electrolyte or dielectric media. I contend that it is an Aetheric
>>     energy tapping device!  Just think about this if you will!  Norm
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>>     On 10/9/2018 1:26 AM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>     Should be more efficient .
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>>>     On Oct 8, 2018 9:56 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>          
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>>>         James,
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>>>         This is an interesting way of going about it, with high
>>>         voltage often caps are used in voltage divider networks
>>>         instead of resistors.  Good idea!
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>>>         The only problem is the larger caps are usually lower
>>>         voltage else very expensive and the lower voltage caps can
>>>         be damaged by the initial pulse prior to charge diffusion
>>>         even though the voltage does go lower based on the larger
>>>         farad capacity.
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>>>         On 10/8/2018 1:53 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>         I would try dumping them in to much larger cap there by
>>>>         dropping the voltage way down say to 15.5 volts or 4 volt
>>>>         to dump into a lead battery or lithium .no transformer
>>>>         needed .
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>>>>         On Oct 8, 2018 10:30 AM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>              
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>>>>             Kone,
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>>>>             Once one has a way of charging caps reliably and
>>>>             quickly what is the
>>>>             best way to make use of a bunch charged to 800v say?
>>>>
>>>>             What do you do with the output of your Konehead /
>>>>             Muller motors?
>>>>
>>>>             I guess one way would be to dump them into a buck
>>>>             converter then use for
>>>>             charging a buffer battery or supercapacitor but what
>>>>             are some uses you
>>>>             have come up with?
>>>>
>>>>             I think the dream Norm had makes sense in that we
>>>>             should just be
>>>>             powering everything off caps as there are multitudes of
>>>>             ways to
>>>>             efficiently charge these puppies.
>>>>
>>>>             How quickly conventional oil caps can be charged by
>>>>             influence machines
>>>>             is another interesting query as these can be voltage
>>>>             limited with GDT's
>>>>             so we don't blow up our run caps with more than 800v,
>>>>             suppose one could
>>>>             have a long line of these charged quickly indeed?
>>>>
>>>>             Don't bother with electrolytic they truly suck and act
>>>>             as if there is a
>>>>             load on the source so waste lots of energy and charge
>>>>             slowly.  They may
>>>>             be ok for lower voltage buffers one we have converted
>>>>             back to watts.
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