Re: [EVGRAY] Cap charging and use

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I believe that the same cylinders used for nitrogen works for hydrogen!  
Due to molecule size it will leak through some metals!


On 10/9/2018 12:10 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> What material do you use as a pressure vessel for hydrogen?
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> I have a compressed natural gas bottle of very heavy construction, but 
> it is steel.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
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>     James! Your mention the use of caps in the NV voltage divider
>     instead of resistors is an interesting idea!
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>     Here is the problem area to be addressed in conventional capacitor
>     charging!
>     http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng2.html
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>     Lets take a look at HV electrostatic charging!  Hypothetically
>     lets take the Felici Electrostatic Generator (Example) and its 3KW
>     output. See:
>     http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
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>     Also, a conventional Marx generator. See:
>     https://www.instructables.com/id/12V-180kV-A-Battery-Powered-Marx-Generator-and-int/
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>     http://danyk.cz/marx_en.html
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>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator
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>     Ok! Guys, we have to think everything backwards here!  With the
>     Felici Electrostatic Generator we have a HV potential of an
>     million volts and it outputs 3KW in useable power. As shown in the
>     Marx generator example with 12VDC input and 180 KV battery powered
>     unit lets play the game backwards.  We have the HVDC already, so
>     lets set up our voltage devider circuit so the we are in effect
>     dividing back down to the lets say 13VDC to charge our batteries! 
>     Don't say it can't be done.  This way we can use the HVDC
>     electrostatic as our power source and utilize the output at any
>     step down voltage we want.  We already know that the Felici
>     Electrostatic Generator is doing something very unusual in that it
>     uses HIGH PRESSURE PURE HYDROGEN GAS as its working electrolyte or
>     dielectric media. I contend that it is an Aetheric energy tapping
>     device!  Just think about this if you will!  Norm
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>     On 10/9/2018 1:26 AM, James Glinski [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     Should be more efficient .
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>>     On Oct 8, 2018 9:56 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>         James,
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>>         This is an interesting way of going about it, with high
>>         voltage often caps are used in voltage divider networks
>>         instead of resistors.  Good idea!
>>
>>         The only problem is the larger caps are usually lower voltage
>>         else very expensive and the lower voltage caps can be damaged
>>         by the initial pulse prior to charge diffusion even though
>>         the voltage does go lower based on the larger farad capacity.
>>
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>>         On 10/8/2018 1:53 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>         I would try dumping them in to much larger cap there by
>>>         dropping the voltage way down say to 15.5 volts or 4 volt to
>>>         dump into a lead battery or lithium .no transformer needed .
>>>
>>>         On Oct 8, 2018 10:30 AM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>             Kone,
>>>
>>>             Once one has a way of charging caps reliably and quickly
>>>             what is the
>>>             best way to make use of a bunch charged to 800v say?
>>>
>>>             What do you do with the output of your Konehead / Muller
>>>             motors?
>>>
>>>             I guess one way would be to dump them into a buck
>>>             converter then use for
>>>             charging a buffer battery or supercapacitor but what are
>>>             some uses you
>>>             have come up with?
>>>
>>>             I think the dream Norm had makes sense in that we should
>>>             just be
>>>             powering everything off caps as there are multitudes of
>>>             ways to
>>>             efficiently charge these puppies.
>>>
>>>             How quickly conventional oil caps can be charged by
>>>             influence machines
>>>             is another interesting query as these can be voltage
>>>             limited with GDT's
>>>             so we don't blow up our run caps with more than 800v,
>>>             suppose one could
>>>             have a long line of these charged quickly indeed?
>>>
>>>             Don't bother with electrolytic they truly suck and act
>>>             as if there is a
>>>             load on the source so waste lots of energy and charge
>>>             slowly.  They may
>>>             be ok for lower voltage buffers one we have converted
>>>             back to watts.
>>>
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