Re: [EVGRAY] Cap charging and use

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For experimenting, just used bottled hydrogen from welding gas 
suppliers.  Your compressor may work but the ones in the oil patch are 
special designs for the very small hydrogen gas molecule! Check: 
http://www.pdcmachines.com/alternative-energy-hydrogen-stations/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_compressor


On 10/9/2018 12:07 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norman
>
> I just happen to have an old Cornelius high pressure 3000 psi, or so, 
> compressor, likely for something aviation. It is in working condition, 
> last time I fired it up, direct coupled to a hydraulic motor for 
> filling scuba tanks on my schooner.(which turned out to be silly, as 
> tanks can be filled almost anywhere for about $2, in the Caribbean)
> Now I suppose it might be able to pump hydrogen, but I don't really 
> know. Hopefully, we can test this idea as soon as I can move into my barn.
> All my junk is being put in the "little barn" upper floor, which is 
> nice and dry, though not heated, on new white steel shelving units, in 
> some semblance of order.
> We capitalized on the labour of a pair of nieces, and boyfriend, over 
> a Canadian Thanksgiving weekend.
> They did a heroic job, unpacking tons of boxes, setting up shelves, 
> and organizing the stuff, a bit, while I played stone mason, proving 
> there may be the capability of work after moving.
> I am not sure how hydrogen is to compress, but I know how to make it 
> from iron filings, and sulfuric acid, or from a Hoffman apparatus.
> I don't know about reactivity of adjacent metals regarding hydrogen, 
> as I have never compressed it.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
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>     James! Your mention the use of caps in the NV voltage divider
>     instead of resistors is an interesting idea!
>
>     Here is the problem area to be addressed in conventional capacitor
>     charging!
>     http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capeng2.html
>
>     Lets take a look at HV electrostatic charging!  Hypothetically
>     lets take the Felici Electrostatic Generator (Example) and its 3KW
>     output. See:
>     http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
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>     Also, a conventional Marx generator. See:
>     https://www.instructables.com/id/12V-180kV-A-Battery-Powered-Marx-Generator-and-int/
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>     http://danyk.cz/marx_en.html
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>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator
>
>     Ok! Guys, we have to think everything backwards here!  With the
>     Felici Electrostatic Generator we have a HV potential of an
>     million volts and it outputs 3KW in useable power. As shown in the
>     Marx generator example with 12VDC input and 180 KV battery powered
>     unit lets play the game backwards.  We have the HVDC already, so
>     lets set up our voltage devider circuit so the we are in effect
>     dividing back down to the lets say 13VDC to charge our batteries! 
>     Don't say it can't be done.  This way we can use the HVDC
>     electrostatic as our power source and utilize the output at any
>     step down voltage we want.  We already know that the Felici
>     Electrostatic Generator is doing something very unusual in that it
>     uses HIGH PRESSURE PURE HYDROGEN GAS as its working electrolyte or
>     dielectric media. I contend that it is an Aetheric energy tapping
>     device!  Just think about this if you will!  Norm
>
>
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>     On 10/9/2018 1:26 AM, James Glinski [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     Should be more efficient .
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>>     On Oct 8, 2018 9:56 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>         James,
>>
>>         This is an interesting way of going about it, with high
>>         voltage often caps are used in voltage divider networks
>>         instead of resistors.  Good idea!
>>
>>         The only problem is the larger caps are usually lower voltage
>>         else very expensive and the lower voltage caps can be damaged
>>         by the initial pulse prior to charge diffusion even though
>>         the voltage does go lower based on the larger farad capacity.
>>
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>>         On 10/8/2018 1:53 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>         I would try dumping them in to much larger cap there by
>>>         dropping the voltage way down say to 15.5 volts or 4 volt to
>>>         dump into a lead battery or lithium .no transformer needed .
>>>
>>>         On Oct 8, 2018 10:30 AM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>             Kone,
>>>
>>>             Once one has a way of charging caps reliably and quickly
>>>             what is the
>>>             best way to make use of a bunch charged to 800v say?
>>>
>>>             What do you do with the output of your Konehead / Muller
>>>             motors?
>>>
>>>             I guess one way would be to dump them into a buck
>>>             converter then use for
>>>             charging a buffer battery or supercapacitor but what are
>>>             some uses you
>>>             have come up with?
>>>
>>>             I think the dream Norm had makes sense in that we should
>>>             just be
>>>             powering everything off caps as there are multitudes of
>>>             ways to
>>>             efficiently charge these puppies.
>>>
>>>             How quickly conventional oil caps can be charged by
>>>             influence machines
>>>             is another interesting query as these can be voltage
>>>             limited with GDT's
>>>             so we don't blow up our run caps with more than 800v,
>>>             suppose one could
>>>             have a long line of these charged quickly indeed?
>>>
>>>             Don't bother with electrolytic they truly suck and act
>>>             as if there is a
>>>             load on the source so waste lots of energy and charge
>>>             slowly.  They may
>>>             be ok for lower voltage buffers one we have converted
>>>             back to watts.
>>>
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