Re: [EVGRAY] Coils cw or ccw. Instead use dot convention.

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2018-09-30T12:32:07-05:00
Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Several weeks ago we had this very same discussion!    In one of my very 
early salavage hunting expiditions, I acquired a very old US Gov. 
suveryers compass which was about 6 inches in diameter and was so 
sensitive that I could not take it on hunting trip cause my shotgun 
being anywhere around it would cuse it to deflest!  was handy to detect 
even the smallest magnet flux fields. The Electromagnetic field strength 
meter was similar to the one in the photo below.

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On 9/30/2018 10:00 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norm,
>
> How did you perceive output from this experiment if you collapsed the 
> E and B vectors to 0 ?     In the EH antenna literature they talk 
> about a system like this (the Russian predecessor to the EH) where two 
> transceivers can communicate on an otherwise hidden channel.
>
>
> On 9/30/2018 6:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Ole!  Nice try but no cigar here.  Please rethink your scenario.  At 
>> first appearance to the neophyte, that does not understand mirror 
>> symmetry and total phase cancellation, your solution seams like a 
>> winner. NOT!  After studying Tesla's huge pancake coil and how it 
>> worked I built my two counter wound coils each with an impedance of 8 
>> ohms.  You absolutely have to have the mirror symmetry in order to 
>> totally phase cancel the vectors of the AC driving signal.  Think 
>> about the traveling AC sine wave over the two coils in mirror 
>> proximity. Supposedly electrons travel 11.75 inches / nano second. 
>> Lets realize that each foot of wire traveled there is a phase shift 
>> in the AC sine wave that absolutely has to be perfectly mirrored to 
>> effectively phase cancel the shifting phase angles of the two 
>> vectors.  I have been there and done this and it works.  Example was 
>> the two coils I built and by shear luck got perfect symmetry and 
>> cancellation resulting in no vectors and what I perceived as a 
>> longitudinal output with no magnetic field nor electrical field!  
>> Think about this!!
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/2018 6:01 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm wondering why people here discusses winding directions of coils.
>>>
>>> The easiest way to wind coils is to wind all of them in the same 
>>> direction. Then when the field or phase is to go in the opposite 
>>> direction just switch around the pair of wires going to that 
>>> particular coil. That's the way it is normally done which also 
>>> prevents unwinding one coil while winding the next coil on the same 
>>> bobbin. Use the dot convention to mark the ends of the wires and 
>>> then just switch the sets of wires that are to be of opposite phase. 
>>> Place the dots in all start ends or alternatively in all finish ends 
>>> of coils wound in the same direction.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Dot Notation and Dot ConventionTransformer Phasing: he Dot 
>>> Notation and Dot Convention
>>> The Dot Notation and Dot Convention
>>>
>>>
>>> Source of the figures: 
>>> https://www.electricaltechnology.org/2013/12/transformer-phasing-the-dot-notation-and-dot-convention.html
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>
>
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