Re: [EVGRAY] Experts agree on advantages of direct c urrent power in buildings – Physics World

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John,

Yes there is a distinction the Aether travels along in rivers and eddys
which move with the magnetic field of the planet.   With a transmission
line it acts similar to a coil with short sharp shocks there is charge
bunching which raises voltage, how the aether and conductor interact to
perform this function you may be more familiar with.


On 9/1/2018 4:06 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> Reply to Warren 2, I would note that while you would assume that your
> boat would be the perfect conductor for a lightening strike...
>
> The way to stop a Van De Graaff from charging to a full voltage is to
> bleed the the charge before it build up, you and your boat might have
> been enough to do that.
>
> Reply to Mick 2, I think you are confusing the current spike that
> comes from shorting a battery and a voltage spike that comes from the
> supercharging effect, where the voltage on closure of a switch lead to
> a massive jump in voltage that cannot be explained by any conventional
> electromagnetic understanding, and this effect is not reliable or
> common, it is not reliably reproduced with normal means, so it
> involves something else not normally controlled for..
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:22 AM Warren Keillor
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>      
>
>     When I was in the six hour long thunderstorm inside the boat I
>     noticed the hair on my arms stand out straight as if I were
>     charged with a Van de Graff generator, while all around me
>     lighning was striking the water in a circle about 60 degrees from
>     the top of the main mast. There were no strikes inside that
>     circle, yet, as far as one could see, the water was being
>     constantly hit. The sound of crashes was constant, without
>     interuption.
>
>     I am not sure what can be learned from these observations.
>     Cheers Warren
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>         On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 at 12:07 PM, Mick [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>          
>
>         John,
>
>         The switch closure voltage is from the interference with the
>         earth magnetic flux along a transmission line, same as the
>         "kick" Steven Mark speaks of in the TPU and tube heater
>         elements.  Just take some jumper cables and short them at the
>         end and put them out straight then touch a battery and hope
>         they don't get stuck and they will physically move.  Of course
>         don't try this with a battery that has a recent charge and
>         still has hydroxy everywhere.
>
>
>         On 9/1/2018 12:42 AM, John Berry [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         alt
>>
>>         H: I don't agree  one thing is the theoretic's
>>
>>         A lot of it is not theoretical.
>>
>>         Spikes do happen on switch closure sometimes, but not
>>         reliably, which means that sometimes something is different.
>>
>>         I can feel aetheric energy and i know it can jump gaps larger
>>         than those regular voltage can jump.
>>
>>         Tesla did say, or it has been claimed he said (hard to
>>         separate the two sometimes) that electricity killed aetheric
>>         energy flow.
>>         I heard this both before and in Gerry Vassalitos's books...
>>         Also, others of his era have said similar things regarding
>>         electricity and aether.
>>         Also this jives with my own experience.
>>
>>         So what causes spikes to SOMETIMES create huge surge voltages
>>         and currents far in excess of what the applied generator can
>>         provide?
>>
>>         Obviously there is some difference BEFORE the switch is closed.
>>
>>
>>         H:  another is the field application ...  Read genesis papers
>>
>>         Funny, I actually had the idea for the negative inductance
>>         coil in the Genesis paper about a decade before it was
>>         published, I shared it publicly, well, in the old Keelynet
>>         chat room.
>>
>>         Might have just been a coincidence.
>>         At any rate, Genesis needs a zero inductance coil and a high
>>         voltage DC to produce negative inductance, and beyond the
>>         initial claim no one has shown it to work.
>>
>>
>>         On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 11:21 AM [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>              
>>
>>             I don't agree  one thing is the theoretic's another is
>>             the field application ..
>>
>>             Read genesis papers , calculate the tensor created by the
>>             DC field in the intended location with the conduit
>>             characteristics wire length ( wavelength )
>>             mass and conduit impedance & its pair annihilation
>>             potential ...
>>
>>             it can be a nightmare , at the  time you turn it off it
>>             burns the hell of whatever
>>             switch you use because you had created  a neutral spike
>>             at shutdown not to mention of what will happen to what is
>>             connected as a load !
>>
>>             Yes! due to the opposed charges magnetic field collapse
>>             .... DC is another world and not too many engineers
>>             understand ,. until they burn the hell  out of their
>>             flawed designs !
>>
>>             (H)
>>
>>
>>
>>             ---In [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, <aether22@...>
>>             <mailto:aether22@...> wrote :
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>>             Glad you like it Mick...
>>
>>             Way to test idea...
>>
>>             Take a DC generator with a fair voltage, ideally
>>             thousands of volts...   Could be a DC generator, probably
>>             a rectified AC generator, could maybe be batteries, but
>>             not all electrical sources are equal aetherically.
>>
>>             Use multi metals to expand the energy bandwidth as
>>             discussed recently, this means use some other metals as
>>             conductors also...
>>
>>             Have an open circuit that the HV cannot jump, but which
>>             looks like a closed circuit to the aetheric, one way to
>>             do this is to twist insulated wires around each other.
>>             (aetheric energy passes through twists).
>>             Another way is to have a gap in the conduction path the
>>             HV cannot pass over, but which the aetheric energy can,
>>             can be tested with sensitivity...
>>
>>             Next, make the generator or whatever is powering the
>>             circuit run for a long long time, days maybe open
>>             circuit...   Little energy cost to this as no load..
>>
>>             Then, close the switch, only, don't because you might get
>>             killed...
>>
>>             Probably the larger the circuit (even though no current
>>             flows through it) the better, a large loop might be best,
>>             this will give it a greater interaction with more
>>             environmental energy.
>>
>>             I can't help but wonder if the Newman machine is working
>>             largely based on this, the collapse of an aetheric
>>             current when you make electrical current flow.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 3:36 AM Mick mkjekyll@...
>>                 <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                      
>>
>>                     Interesting way of looking at it John!
>>
>>
>>                     On 8/30/2018 7:20 PM, John Berry aether22@...
>>                     <mailto:aether22@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>                      
>>>                     Aetheric energy is induced to flow from many
>>>                     electrical sources such as batteries and
>>>                     generators...
>>>
>>>                     Aetheric energy can jump large gaps without a
>>>                     problem.
>>>
>>>                     Electrical current flow as Tesla claimed can
>>>                     collapse aetheric current flow, that is why he
>>>                     has short impulses...
>>>
>>>                     So in a DC system with an open circuit, the
>>>                     aetheric energy is already flowing, unseen,
>>>                     unrecognized.
>>>
>>>                     Suddenly the current flows and the electrons try
>>>                     and eat up all the energy, but sometimes it is
>>>                     to much and the aetheric energy pulls in too
>>>                     much other energy and this is when you get a
>>>                     large spike!
>>>
>>>                     So, it's not really closing an electrical
>>>                     circuit, rather it is collapsing of an aetheric
>>>                     circuit!
>>>
>>>                     And collapses bring in energy.
>>>
>>>                     If you never fully collapse and never reverse
>>>                     the direction, then the aetheric energy can
>>>                     remain and somewhat as with a Tesla system..
>>>
>>>                     On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:41 AM Mick
>>>                     mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>                     <[email protected]
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                          
>>>
>>>                         Norm,
>>>
>>>                         I was commenting on the article not your
>>>                         opinion of the technology.  That is quite
>>>                         something with the ball lightening, must
>>>                         have been the phase conjugate from the motor
>>>                         reflecting along a transmission line going
>>>                         some distance.  I don't understand how the
>>>                         ball of plasma works but would guess it is a
>>>                         balance between the expanding forward time
>>>                         flow and the reverse imploding time flow
>>>                         somehow creates a sphere but how it self
>>>                         sustains for more than microseconds is
>>>                         fascinating and must have something to do
>>>                         with spin and harvesting the ambient.  I
>>>                         know the Tesla coils you scrapped Bob Golka
>>>                         was investigating ball lightening but I
>>>                         never heard if anyone got a solid handle on
>>>                         the workings.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On 8/30/2018 11:46 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>                         nwootan@.... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>                         wrote:
>>>>                          
>>>>
>>>>                         Mick!!!! You misinterpret  my feeling on
>>>>                         this subject!!!!  Just because I posted it
>>>>                         does not mean that I agree with these
>>>>                         idiots!  Yes! the cost to retrofit a
>>>>                         skyscraper main electrical buss with time
>>>>                         delays on branch circuits and other
>>>>                         measures to control inrush currents of
>>>>                         thousands of amps DC (SURGE) would be cost
>>>>                         prohibitive.  I had a close friend (RIP)
>>>>                         who pulled a huge Frankenstein knife switch
>>>>                         on a 100 HP DC air handler motor dating
>>>>                         back to the early twenties in a downtown
>>>>                         Dallas commercial building. On opening the
>>>>                         switch a basketball size Ball Lightning
>>>>                         rolled out of the switch and fell to the
>>>>                         concrete floor then skittered over to a
>>>>                         wall in the basement and exploded. The very
>>>>                         same thing that Tesla described in the
>>>>                         early days of DC main buss power and the
>>>>                         problems with switching!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         On 8/30/2018 11:12 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>                         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>                          
>>>>>
>>>>>                         And when the power in the basement of a DC
>>>>>                         skyscraper is turned on the current kick
>>>>>                         along the transmission line may be an
>>>>>                         issue like in Tesla's days not to mention
>>>>>                         the AC prevents displacement current
>>>>>                         charging of building materials that may
>>>>>                         end up being natural capacitors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                         On 8/30/2018 3:17 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>                         nwootan@.... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>                         wrote:
>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>                         https://physicsworld.com/a/experts-agree-on-advantages-of-direct-current-power-in-buildings/
>>>>>>                         <https://physicsworld..com/a/experts-agree-on-advantages-of-direct-current-power-in-buildings/>
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