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Kone & Warren, I have had vast experience with MVR (Mechanical Vapor Re 
compression) technology in our Vortex Energy Systems project. I made the 
trip to the UAE back in 2009 to help improve their Desalination Systems 
by introducing the Tesla Turbine backbone to the MVR technology.  I did 
the ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference presentation  for Steven at the 
2016 Conference. DVD # ET 1615.  Covered 40 years of research and 
development.   For you folks that are not familiar with MVR technology, 
please visit the sites to see how Industry has achieved a COP of 40:1 
using the Low Lift methods and our Tesla turbine System used the medium 
lift  with a 20:1 COP.  By using 3 different refrigerants to scavenge 
all sources of waste heat or sources of heat, any business or 
residential application can thrive off the environment. I prototyped 
this and it does work. Very efficient collection, concentration and 
utilization of heat energy all around us. Please review the Technology.

Operation Characteristic of a Mechanical Vapor Recompression Heat
Pump Driven by a Centrifugal Fan
Weike Pang 1, 2,a, Luwei Yang1,b, Zhentao Zhang1*,c
1Technical Institute of Physics and Chemistry, CAS, Beijing 10090, China
2Graduate University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China
[email protected],[email protected],[email protected]
Keywords: MVR driven by fans; system performance; falling-film 
evaporation; adiabatic efficiency.
Abstract: A mechanical vapor recompression heat pump driven by a 
centrifugal fan is designed
together with falling-film evaporation. Based on theoretical analysis, 
experimental research is
applied to study the fan type of MVR. Choosing water as the experimental 
medium, the operation
characteristic of MVR applied to low evaporation is examined. 
Practically, the pressure difference of
the unit is likely to keep stable while its evaporation pressure goes 
up. After the system performance
is tested and analyzed, it shows that the total evaporation water and 
total input energy increase as its
evaporation pressure grows. Further, some calculation is done and the 
result indicates that its SMER
and COP decrease while the evaporation pressure rises. The reason of 
this phenomenon is: the
leakage loss of the fan inside goes up and its displacement efficiency 
reduces as the evaporation
temperature and pressure is high; finally, it brings forth the drop of 
the system’s adiabatic efficiency.
Finally, the trend of average input work for compressed vapor is 
compared in three different terms.
The trend of average input work by calculation is the same as that in 
theory; that is to say, both of them
descend when the evaporation pressure ascends. Because of displacement 
efficiency, the trend of
average input work by measure is different from that in theory; that is 
to say, the average input work
by measure grows slightly when the evaporation pressure goes up.
Introduction
The heat pump of mechanical vapor recompression (MVR) could be applied 
to evaporation of
solution widely. Comparing with the conventional multiple-effect 
evaporation, the MVR heat pump
does not need a boiler to provide some drive vapor, so the pollutant 
released from coal-burning boilers
reduces. In the places of evaporation, the MVR may be considered to 
adopt if there is enough electric
power. It could reuse the heat of produced vapor evaporating from the 
solution, which shows the high
efficiency of energy conservation [1, 2]. With the drop trend of 
electric comparing to vapor, the MVR
heat pump will be used more than before.
At present, in overseas areas without plenty of water, the MVR heat pump 
is applied to
desalination of seawater by researchers, and some perfect fruit has be 
gained [3~6]. In domestic salt
industry, the MVR is forming its market and a few big factories have 
installed the equipment [7, 8]. The
MVR systems of desalination or salt manufacturing are very complicated 
and their production
capacity is quite large. Meanwhile, there are respective characteristics 
of system for both of them. The
reports on the MVR of small evaporation for solution are few. In current 
studies, some special
treatment with MVR on one type of solution is done [9~12]. The trend of 
operation characteristics and
performance need advanced research to discover when the MVR heat pump 
deals with solution that
has some common qualities.
Based on the need of medium and small evaporation in industry, this 
study is done to design a unit
with compact structure and simple manipulation. All parts of the unit 
are homegrown. The
compression ratio and temperature difference of heat transfer are not 
big. It is suitable to concentrate
those solutions which are sensitive to temperature. It provides 
references for optimization of latter
systems by measuring and analyzing the performance parameters of the unit.
Advanced Materials Research Online: 2013-08-16
ISSN: 1662-8985, Vols. 732-733, pp 165-171
doi:10.4028/www.scientific.net/AMR.732-733.165
© 2013 Trans Tech Publications, Switzerland
All rights reserved. No part of contents of this paper may be reproduced 
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Tech Publications, www.ttp.net. (ID: 130.203.136.75, Pennsylvania State 
University, University Park, USA-11/05/16,08:40:51)
Analysis on the Performance of the System
The performance parameters examined are the total input energy, the 
total evaporation water,
evaporation water per input energy (SMER), COP of the heat pump, 
adiabatic efficiency and
displacement efficiency of the fan, and so on.
Fig.1 The thermodynamic process of vapor
The process of the vapor thermodynamic state is: under the ideal 
condition, the solution at state 4
is heated to boiling point and then vapor evaporates; its state is 1. 
The vapor is compressed to state 2’
by adiabatic compression. When cooling, the compressed vapor is firstly 
cooled as the saturated state
2’’, following condensates as state 3. During practical compression, the 
compressed vapor is state 2
for there are some irreversible factors. Based on the parameters of 
produced vapor at beginning and at
end of compression, average input work of the reversible adiabatic 
process is:
2 ' 1
w = h - h
. (1)
During the process of practical compression, average input work is:
i 2 1 w = h - h . (2)
In the formula (1) and (2), h is enthalpy of vapor, kJ/kg.
Based on the electric power Pe by measure, vapor flux m by measure, 
efficiency of the electric
motor ηe, and mechanical efficiency ηm, average input work during 
practical compression may be
expressed as following:
' e m e
i
P
w
m
=h h
. (3)
The ratio of average input work during practical irreversible process to 
that during ideal
reversible process is called as adiabatic efficiency [13]. It is written 
as following:
1 2
'
( )
i
i e e m
w h h m
w P
h
h h
= = -
. (4)
During practical compression, the leakage loss of the fan inside brings 
forth that its displacement
in practice is less than in theory. The ratio is called as displacement 
efficiency. It is written as
following:
V
th
m
m
h =
. (5)
The SMER of the system is:
3600 i m e SMER
w
= hh h
. (6)
The practical COP of the system is:
i th COP =h COP . (7)
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The theoretical COP of the system is:
th
r
COP
w
=
. (8)
In the formula (8), r is latent heat of vapor, kJ/kg.
Principle of the System’s Flow Chart
water
tank
centrifuge fan
evaporator
valve1
discharge pump
feed pump
condensate pump
circulation pump
flow meter
pressure regulating valve
separator
Fig.2 Process of an MVR heat pump with falling-film evaporation driven 
by a centrifugal fan
The process of an MVR heat pump driven by a centrifugal fan is shown in 
figure 2. The separate
vapor from the separator is sucked by the centrifugal fan. After it is 
compressed, it goes into the
evaporator to heat the raw solution with the state of high temperature 
and pressure. The raw solution
pumped by the feed pump is heated to boiling point. The mixture of vapor 
and liquid steps into the
separator and is separated from each other. The saturated vapor that is 
separated from the separator
enters the fan to start a new work period. The vapor releases its heat 
in the evaporator and is cooled as
water, and then is discharged from the system. The gas that could not be 
condensation is discharged
by a valve.
Before starting the unit, the valve 7 is shut and the valve 1, 3 and 5 
are turned on. After the unit is
turned on, the solution pumped into the system flows through valve 3 and 
5. Then it is sprinkled at the
top of the evaporator. Some solution evaporates and the mixture steps 
into the separator while the
other solution return the feed pump by valve 1 and the discharge pump. 
When the unit runs stably, all
of the solution pumped into the evaporator evaporates. The vapor goes 
into the separator and the
concentrated solution is discharged directly by valve 1 and the 
discharge pump. If the liquid position
rises to the maximal, the feed pump and valve 5 should be closed. Next, 
the circulation pump, valve 6
and 7 are turned on, after then the accumulative liquid is pumped back 
to the evaporator to evaporate
again.
Experimental System
According to the flow principle of the system, the experimental 
installation is set up. It is shown
in figure 3. Additionally, a set of electric heater is installed to 
quicken the startup of the system. After
the unit is at a steady state, the heater supplies its energy to the 
unit for there is heat loss. Because of
the heater, the evaporation of the system keeps stable.
During the experiment, water is chose as the evaporation medium. The 
parameters needed to be
measured are: suck pressure and temperature of the fan, discharge 
pressure and temperature of the fan,
hell temperature of the evaporator, tube temperature of the evaporator, 
liquid position of the
separator, liquid position of the condensate tank, flux of the 
condensate, flux of the raw solution,
electric power of the fan, electric power of the heater.
Advanced Materials Research Vols. 732-733 167
Fig.3 MVR heat pump with falling-film evaporation driven by a 
centrifugal fan
The technology parameters of sensors for testing are shown in table 1.
Table1 The parameters of sensors for testing
Sensor Test parameter Precision Measuring
range
PT100 Temperature of shell and tube in evaporator 0.1 -50~400[℃]
Thermocouple-T Suction and discharge temperature of fan 0.1 -50~200[℃]
Pressure
transmitter
Suction and discharge pressure of fan 0.5 0~0.5[Mpa]
Liquid position Liquid level of separator and condensation water
tank
1.5 0~300[mm]
Flow meter Flow rate of condensation water and raw solution 1.5 0~500[L/h]
Transformer Power of electric heat 1.0 0~260[V]
Analysis and Discussion
Fig.4 Trend of input energy of the experimental unit
As shown in figure 4, the electric power of the heater and total 
electric power of the unit rise as
the evaporation pressure ascend. With the increase of evaporation 
pressure, from 95KPa to 110KPa,
the total electric power goes up from 2.44kW to 2.77kW. Considering that 
the leakage loss of the fan
inside ascends and its displacement efficiency descends, the volume flux 
of the vapor reduces. The
specific volume goes down with the increase of the evaporation pressure, 
which makes the mass flux
goes up probably. If the increase extent of vapor flux is more than the 
decrease extent of average input
work in theory for compression, the electric power of the unit maybe 
ascend. The change of
evaporation pressure is subject to the adjustment of evaporation 
temperature. When evaporation
pressure increases, the evaporation temperature ascends firstly. The 
heater needs to supply more heat
than before for the temperature goes up. In conclusion, with the ascent 
of evaporation pressure, the
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electric power of the heater increases, too. Additionally, when the 
evaporation temperature goes up,
the leakage heat rises. It needs to supply more heat than before to keep 
the evaporation temperature
steady. With the increase of evaporation pressure from 95KPa to 110KPa, 
the electric power of heater
ascends from 2.09kW to 2.55kW. Put these two powers together, the total 
input energy goes up when
the evaporation pressure rises.
Fig.5 Trend of evaporation water
As shown in figure 5, the trend of evaporation water by measure is the 
same as that in theory.
Both of them ascends when evaporation pressure rises, but the increase 
extent of evaporation water by
measure is not as large as that in theory. When the evaporation pressure 
goes up from 95KPa to
110KPa, the ascent extent of evaporation water in theory is about 
15kg/h, but the ascent extent is
about only 5kg/h. It indicates that the advantage by heightening the 
evaporation pressure to increase
the evaporation water is as much as its disadvantage of the descent of 
the fan’s displacement
efficiency. It could not improve the performance of the unit if the 
evaporation pressure is adjusted to
higher than before, but its SMER decreases.
The evaporation water by measure is gained according to the separated 
vapor, and the theoretical
is based on the displacement and its specific volume of the sucked vapor 
when the fan works at
different condition. During practical compression, the vapor sucked by 
the fan contains some water
drops. Because of that, the process of vapor compression is changed as 
wet compression. In practice,
the electric power of the system increases for the wet compression.
Fig.6 Trend of performance of the experimental unit
As shown in figure 6, the SMER descends gradually with the ascent of the 
evaporation pressure.
The total evaporation water goes up when the evaporation pressure rises, 
but the input electric power
of the unit also goes up. Because the ascent extent of the electric 
power is more than that of the
evaporation water, the average power per water increases and SMER goes 
down. When the
evaporation pressure ascends from 95KPa to 110KPa, SMER descends from 
30.04kg/kWh to
29.62kg/kWh.
Advanced Materials Research Vols. 732-733 169
In theory, COP of the system goes up with the ascent of the evaporation 
pressure, but it goes
down in practice. It is because of the adiabatic efficiency of the fan. 
When the evaporation pressure
and temperature rise, the condensation pressure and temperature rise 
also. As a result, it reduces the
adiabatic efficiency of the fan. The decrease extent of adiabatic 
efficiency is larger than the increase
extent of the COP in theory, so the practical COP by measure goes down. 
It drops from 23.41 to 22.99.
Fig.7 Trend of the average input work in different conditions
As shown in figure 7, the average input work by calculation that is 
based on the electric power in
practice and theoretical displacement is compared to the average input 
work in theory. It is discovered
that both of them decreases when the evaporation pressure rises. 
Differently, the average input work
by measure based on the practical displacement goes up while the 
evaporation pressure ascends. It is
because that the displacement efficiency decreases. For the descent of 
the displacement efficiency, the
vapor displacement in practice goes down gradually. The increase extent 
of mass flux of vapor is less
than the increase extent of the electric power, so the average input 
work goes up in practice. When the
evaporation rises from 95KPa to 110KPa, the average input work rises 
from 95.87kJ/kg to
97.22kJ/kg.
Fig.8 Trend of efficiency of the fan
As shown in figure 8, with the ascent of the evaporation pressure, the 
temperature of the sucked
vapor by the fan goes up gradually and the leakage loss of the fan 
inside increases, too. As a result, the
displacement efficiency goes down, from 0.79 at the evaporation pressure 
of 95KPa to 0.74 at the
evaporation pressure of 110KPa. As shown in the formula of adiabatic 
efficiency, the adiabatic
efficiency is affected by the mass flux both in theory and practice, 
that is to say, it is affected by the
displacement efficiency. Because of the displacement, the adiabatic 
efficiency reduces when the
evaporation pressure rises. The adiabatic efficiency decreases from 0.25 
at the evaporation pressure of
95KPa to 0.21 at the evaporation pressure of 110KPa.
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Conclusions
Based on the measure and analysis on the unit when it operates in 
practice, some laws are
concluded. They are:
1) The total evaporation water and electric power of the fan type of MVR 
increase as the
evaporation pressure goes up, but the ascent extent of evaporation water 
in practice is less than that in
theory.
2) SMER and COP of the system decrease as the evaporation pressure 
ascends. It is because the
adiabatic efficiency reduces with the ascent of the evaporation 
pressure. Additionally, the descent of
the adiabatic efficiency is brought by the descent of the displacement 
efficiency.
3) In the range of high temperature and pressure, the suck and discharge 
pressure of the fan rise as
the evaporation pressure and temperature go up. As a result, the leakage 
loss of the fan inside
increases and its displacement efficiency reduces gradually.
4) The average input work drops as the evaporation pressure increases, 
but the descent extent of
the adiabatic efficiency is worse. As a result, SMER and COP of the 
system drop as the evaporation
pressure rises.
Acknowledgements
This work is supported by National High Technology Research and 
Development Program
(Foundation No.2012AA063402); National Technology Support Program 
(Foundation
No.2012BAA03B05).
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Fan
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The heart of the Vortex Energy Systems is my Patent for Production of 
Hydrogen : US Patent:

Process and device for producing hydrogen
US 20030059353 A1 Prototype fabrication and proof of concept completed 
spring of 2006 for GAZPROM,  Moscow.

BTW! Kone, James Griggs came to Joseph Binder Lab in 1996 to see my 
demonstration of a Perkins Rotor operating at over-unity. I explained 
exactly how the unit achieved the 140% over-unity verified by NASA and 
written about by Eugene Malove. My unit had a Pyrex glass outer envelope 
which allowed  the visual proof that the micro cavitation, 
sonoluminescence events proved the source of the gains in heat. See: 
Langmuir, Atomic Hydrogen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding I subsequently 
got Patent for the Sonodiffusor. US Patent: *Patent number*: 6386751 
BTW, I gave my demo Perkins Rotor to Moray King at the Tesla Conference 
for his study of Nano Cavitation. 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_hydrogen_welding>


On 8/29/2018 7:38 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hi Warren
> They mention overunity in the can with holes in it rotating inside 
> another vs with gap less than 1/8" between....watch a few more videos 
> on ir, look up creative science and their " fuel less heater" ...
>
> .also please talk to Bart W about his top secret heat pump thing that 
> could be spun by RV essily...i saw it work and saw it tested too at 
> his house a few years ago he just wants to keep its design secret as 
> too easy to replicate it has huge "value" as he calls it....you could 
> bebtesl world example for it, maybe do just some of your tunes get 
> some good data over the winter with it...
> He was going to let me text one but have no security ar.my.lworkdhop 
> in Seattle he was afraid I might give secret away unintemtionally...
> Kone
>
>

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