Re: [EVGRAY] Bifilar Coil for Electromagnets

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Ole,

Does Smith give any clues as to what frequency he used the 25 feet would
be about 40mhz fullwave?


On 8/28/2018 5:06 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> The energy known as heat is actually electromagnetic power. Friction
> of electric current passing resistance is one way of making heat. If
> there is no resistance heat isn't generated. An exception is if
> hitting the frequency of heat which is the infra-red (IR) range of
> frequencies. This can be done by using light emitting diodes (LEDs).
> Smith mentioned that his coil showed no specific point of resonance
> and it only worked above some unknown power level. At 100W it worked
> OK but it didn't at 30W. My guess is that the working point had to
> reach the non-linear region of the ferrite. This is where it starts
> saturating the ferrite.
>
> Tesla's hairpin circuit is a loop antenna or a transmission line with
> reflections (standing waves). The tensor coil according to Smith
> changes or folds into itself the three vectors of electromagnetism.
> The field should be like stacking doughnuts or smoke rings on top of
> each other. The tempic field (field of change) thus is carried in the
> center of the doughnuts which make the beam carry 'time' with it and
> giving the property of being instant from one end to the other. I.e.
> there is no time of propagation like with transverse electromagnetic
> (TEM) waves as time is carried along with the beam.
>
> Perhaps the tensor beam is just shifting to what the ET people call a
> less dense reality with a greater speed of light.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> Heat is a scalar field too.  I wonder what makes the distinction
> between the two types of energy one heating and one not my guess is
> high enough frequency.  My experiments with short solid ferrite and
> pairs of opposite wound coils always present heat, the Smith
> experiment would be fun to try.  Assuming he used a high frequency of
> RF rather than the low sound ones perhaps he was making a magnetic
> node RF antenna similar to Telas hairpin circuit or the small loop of
> metal that connects a ground plane antenna to the dipole and looks
> like an open rather than a direct short.
>
>
> On 8/27/2018 3:29 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Norman,
>>
>>     My guess is that you wound a bifilar resistor but using copper
>>     instead of resistance wire and that it performed just like that
>>     kind of resistor if the canceling of the fields worked perfect.
>>     Thus all the power was converted into heat. A calorimeter test
>>     could confirm that. Resistance converts electric power into heat
>>     power. With minimal inductance as well as capacitance the 8 Ohm
>>     impedance is mainly resistive (Ohmic). It has no reactive part to
>>     store the energy.
>>
>>     W.B. Smith made his tensor coil aka Smith coil or Caduceus coil.
>>     This coil is wound by a caduceus winding on a big ferrite tube.
>>     Smith tells that it can easily take 1kW of power without
>>     converting it to heat and with no normal detectable
>>     electromagnetic field. A second tensor coil made as a copy of the
>>     first one could pick up a signal from the ends of the
>>     transmitting tensor coil. The tensor coil transmits a thin LASER
>>     like beam that can't be shielded. The odd thing was that they
>>     couldn't measure any delay of the signal like when using radio
>>     waves or when transmitting signals through wires.
>>
>>     Here is some of W.B. Smith's description of how the coil was made:
>>     "One ferrite core, material with the highest permeability and
>>     dielectric constant, about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1
>>     inch in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric
>>     house wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of
>>     the core wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first
>>     turn under and then over, so that the winding will be exactly
>>     symmetrical. It will start at one end of the core and finish at
>>     the other end and will resemble a solenoid with a bifilar
>>     winding. It is important that the winding be exactly symmetrical."
>>     Source: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm
>>
>>     Smith further mentions that there has to be a hole through the
>>     ferrite core. I don't know if the core will work if constructing
>>     it from a stack of ferrite rings glued together. Else this would
>>     be a way to make such a core for experimenting.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Hello all!    Since the subject of bifillar coils has surfaced
>>     again, Let me share a little experiment that was spurred by Tom
>>     Bearden when he published his Phase Conjugation ideas!  Out of
>>     curiosity, I wound a long solenoid air core coil with two strand
>>     18 ga. stranded zip wire.   I was careful to wind the turns flat
>>     ,single layer tightly wound so that mutual induction between
>>     turns phase cancelled the vectors of the electric fields and the
>>     magnetic fields. what bifiliar should do.  I used a Ramer
>>     Impedance Bridge to get my winding to the 8 Ohm impedance needed
>>     for my 100 watt/channel stereo amplifier when fed by a pure sine
>>     wave of 400Hz signal.  (Note: I did not attempt to find a
>>     resonant point for the coil) The hook up is simple and You can
>>     watch on a scope the stereo amp output Channel A & B being
>>     exactly 180 degrees out of phase into the air core 8 Ohm /
>>     winding.  When brought up to 100 watt power dissipation / channel
>>     into the 8 Ohm impedance there was no detectable fields either
>>     electric nor magnetic fields although the power meters showed a
>>     total of 200 watts of energy being consumed.  What is your
>>     opinion as to the form that the power was converted into?? Yes
>>     there was associated heat generated in the air core windings. 
>>     When phase cancellation removes the vectors from the equation,
>>     does the energy become Longitudinal wave without any detectable
>>     fields???
>>
>>     https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>
>>     On 8/27/2018 6:17 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY]
>>     wrote:
>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>         Hi Kone,
>>>
>>>         The energy has to be input as two separate parts and then
>>>         mixed into a coherent single part to be extracted for
>>>         driving the load. Look at how Pierre Cotnoir did it. His
>>>         device didn't require resonance which makes it drive
>>>         different loads without having to readjust everything. He
>>>         has overcome the tuning bitch. I'll try something like that.
>>>         But the progress is going very slow. This far two MOSFET hex
>>>         bridges are completed and working.
>>>
>>>         Mixing energy is not just mixing voltage or mixing current
>>>         as both of those parts as well as time (actually change) are
>>>         parts of energy. Think of energy and not just the parts
>>>         making up energy. Energy comes in quite many types. It's the
>>>         output energy that has to be greater than the input energy
>>>         to be able to extract free energy. The excess free energy is
>>>         then extracted out of the cosmic background or aether of
>>>         electrons (or positrons).
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <konehead@...>
>>>         <mailto:konehead@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>         Hi James
>>>         Perhaps "bifilar backemf" (the inductive kickback spikes
>>>         from a bifilar coil)
>>>         Is of greater power when first you split then combine the
>>>         inductive kickback spikes produced.
>>>         This means bifilar half A is fed the.pulsed DC power (or
>>>         alternating polarity pulsed DC for AC)
>>>         And steering diodes capture the kickback spike into cap (s).
>>>         Then the other half (B) of bifilar is not driven by direct
>>>         power feed but rather is only induced by bifilar half A.
>>>         Now either combine kickback spikes from each into common cap
>>>         or fill up separate caps for each bifilar half.
>>>         Could be creating a "coherence" condition as Ole speaks
>>>         about, from W B Smith writings.
>>>         The capacitors filled need to be disconnected from the coil
>>>         whenever they discharge to load for real power to be seen
>>>         with no reflection back to primary input.
>>>         Kone
>>
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