Re: [EVGRAY] Bifilar Coil for Electromagnets

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Ole,

Heat is a scalar field too.  I wonder what makes the distinction between
the two types of energy one heating and one not my guess is high enough
frequency.  My experiments with short solid ferrite and pairs of
opposite wound coils always present heat, the Smith experiment would be
fun to try.  Assuming he used a high frequency of RF rather than the low
sound ones perhaps he was making a magnetic node RF antenna similar to
Telas hairpin circuit or the small loop of metal that connects a ground
plane antenna to the dipole and looks like an open rather than a direct
short.


On 8/27/2018 3:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>
> Hi Norman,
>
> My guess is that you wound a bifilar resistor but using copper instead
> of resistance wire and that it performed just like that kind of
> resistor if the canceling of the fields worked perfect. Thus all the
> power was converted into heat. A calorimeter test could confirm that.
> Resistance converts electric power into heat power. With minimal
> inductance as well as capacitance the 8 Ohm impedance is mainly
> resistive (Ohmic). It has no reactive part to store the energy.
>
> W.B. Smith made his tensor coil aka Smith coil or Caduceus coil. This
> coil is wound by a caduceus winding on a big ferrite tube. Smith tells
> that it can easily take 1kW of power without converting it to heat and
> with no normal detectable electromagnetic field. A second tensor coil
> made as a copy of the first one could pick up a signal from the ends
> of the transmitting tensor coil. The tensor coil transmits a thin
> LASER like beam that can't be shielded. The odd thing was that they
> couldn't measure any delay of the signal like when using radio waves
> or when transmitting signals through wires.
>
> Here is some of W.B. Smith's description of how the coil was made:
> "One ferrite core, material with the highest permeability and
> dielectric constant, about 8 inches to a foot long, and about 1 inch
> in diameter. About 20 feet of plastic insulated #14 electric house
> wire. Starting at the center of the wire and at one end of the core
> wind on the wire as closely as possible, with the first turn under and
> then over, so that the winding will be exactly symmetrical. It will
> start at one end of the core and finish at the other end and will
> resemble a solenoid with a bifilar winding. It is important that the
> winding be exactly symmetrical."
> Source: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm
>
> Smith further mentions that there has to be a hole through the ferrite
> core. I don't know if the core will work if constructing it from a
> stack of ferrite rings glued together. Else this would be a way to
> make such a core for experimenting.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
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> Hello all!    Since the subject of bifillar coils has surfaced again,
> Let me share a little experiment that was spurred by Tom Bearden when
> he published his Phase Conjugation ideas!  Out of curiosity, I wound a
> long solenoid air core coil with two strand 18 ga. stranded zip
> wire.   I was careful to wind the turns flat ,single layer tightly
> wound so that mutual induction between turns phase cancelled the
> vectors of the electric fields and the magnetic fields. what bifiliar
> should do.  I used a Ramer Impedance Bridge to get my winding to the 8
> Ohm impedance needed for my 100 watt/channel stereo amplifier when fed
> by a pure sine wave of 400Hz signal.  (Note: I did not attempt to find
> a resonant point for the coil) The hook up is simple and You can watch
> on a scope the stereo amp output Channel A & B being exactly 180
> degrees out of phase into the air core 8 Ohm / winding.  When brought
> up to 100 watt power dissipation / channel into the 8 Ohm impedance
> there was no detectable fields either electric nor magnetic fields
> although the power meters showed a total of 200 watts of energy being
> consumed.  What is your opinion as to the form that the power was
> converted into?? Yes there was associated heat generated in the air
> core windings.  When phase cancellation removes the vectors from the
> equation, does the energy become Longitudinal wave without any
> detectable fields???
>
> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>
> On 8/27/2018 6:17 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Kone,
>>
>>     The energy has to be input as two separate parts and then mixed
>>     into a coherent single part to be extracted for driving the load.
>>     Look at how Pierre Cotnoir did it. His device didn't require
>>     resonance which makes it drive different loads without having to
>>     readjust everything. He has overcome the tuning bitch. I'll try
>>     something like that. But the progress is going very slow. This
>>     far two MOSFET hex bridges are completed and working.
>>
>>     Mixing energy is not just mixing voltage or mixing current as
>>     both of those parts as well as time (actually change) are parts
>>     of energy. Think of energy and not just the parts making up
>>     energy. Energy comes in quite many types. It's the output energy
>>     that has to be greater than the input energy to be able to
>>     extract free energy. The excess free energy is then extracted out
>>     of the cosmic background or aether of electrons (or positrons).
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <konehead@...> <mailto:konehead@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Hi James
>>     Perhaps "bifilar backemf" (the inductive kickback spikes from a
>>     bifilar coil)
>>     Is of greater power when first you split then combine the
>>     inductive kickback spikes produced.
>>     This means bifilar half A is fed the.pulsed DC power (or
>>     alternating polarity pulsed DC for AC)
>>     And steering diodes capture the kickback spike into cap (s).
>>     Then the other half (B) of bifilar is not driven by direct power
>>     feed but rather is only induced by bifilar half A.
>>     Now either combine kickback spikes from each into common cap or
>>     fill up separate caps for each bifilar half.
>>     Could be creating a "coherence" condition as Ole speaks about,
>>     from W B Smith writings.
>>     The capacitors filled need to be disconnected from the coil
>>     whenever they discharge to load for real power to be seen with no
>>     reflection back to primary input.
>>     Kone
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