Re: [EVGRAY] Bifilar Coil for Electromagnets

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Norm, two bad you didn't have two of the same to see if the field
returned, very interesting you made such a perfect coil.  I wanted to
see if Bearden was full of it or it the cancelled waves came back from
two scalar fields which my sound experiment indicated.   If your coil
was not even moving a compass that's a phenomenal build!  Bearden
claimed to Jim Feuling that two scalar fields slightly FM  or Phase
modulated so the peaks and valleys saw back and forth at the nodes have
very high power amplification.


On 8/28/2018 7:11 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXKJjNAZDEM    My meter was similar to
> the TriField meter used in video!  Also used small magnetic compasses
> to detect the presence of even small field lines of flux. The Stereo
> amp was set up to drive the two windings 180 degrees out of phase. The
> zip wire was poly coated 18 ga. speaker wire with conductors color
> coded . Red = channel A,  Green = Channel B. Scope showed the 180
> degree out of phase driving relationship!  Ole believes that my setup
> was turning the bifiliar coil into a rectifier so that only resistance
> was turning power into heat. (DC)?  Scope clearly shows 400 HZ sine
> wave driving coil.  Fields cancelled!!!!!!  If a DC current was
> flowing in coil, there would be a magnetic field produced!  Right?   
> No magnetic field.
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> On 8/27/2018 9:41 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> The difference between your experiment and tinsel koala is the drive
>> being high impedance with his and low with yours so your experiment
>> had substantial B field component.  I have found without the high
>> current low impedance drive such as only using a sig gen without a
>> current buffer experiments some times turn out with an improper
>> assessment. 
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>> How did you measure the magnetic and electric field of the coil?
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>> Were you feeding the bifilar from channel A and channel B of the amp
>> in cross phase?
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>> I performed a similar experiment in the 80's two battery powered mono
>> cassette players.  Recording a tape in stereo at 400 Hz with the
>> channels 180 degrees out of phase then put the tape in the mono
>> player.  The mono addition volume is low and the main component of
>> the 400hz  gone so just a dull sounding almost off frequency
>> playback.  Now if two tapes were used and two mono players at the
>> same time the cancelled muffled sound went away and the original tone
>> reappeared but interestingly enough the rebuilt tone was no longer
>> localized but rather seemed to come from everywhere at once.  400hz
>> is easy to localize so this was surprising and astonishing in some
>> ways when one considers the math.
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>> On 8/27/2018 7:06 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Hello all!    Since the subject of bifillar coils has surfaced
>>> again, Let me share a little experiment that was spurred by Tom
>>> Bearden when he published his Phase Conjugation ideas!  Out of
>>> curiosity, I wound a long solenoid air core coil with two strand 18
>>> ga. stranded zip wire.   I was careful to wind the turns flat
>>> ,single layer tightly wound so that mutual induction between turns
>>> phase cancelled the vectors of the electric fields and the magnetic
>>> fields. what bifiliar should do.  I used a Ramer Impedance Bridge to
>>> get my winding to the 8 Ohm impedance needed for my 100 watt/channel
>>> stereo amplifier when fed by a pure sine wave of 400Hz signal. 
>>> (Note: I did not attempt to find a resonant point for the coil) The
>>> hook up is simple and You can watch on a scope the stereo amp output
>>> Channel A & B being exactly 180 degrees out of phase into the air
>>> core 8 Ohm / winding.  When brought up to 100 watt power dissipation
>>> / channel into the 8 Ohm impedance there was no detectable fields
>>> either electric nor magnetic fields although the power meters showed
>>> a total of 200 watts of energy being consumed.  What is your opinion
>>> as to the form that the power was converted into?? Yes there was
>>> associated heat generated in the air core windings.  When phase
>>> cancellation removes the vectors from the equation, does the energy
>>> become Longitudinal wave without any detectable fields???
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>>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
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>>> On 8/27/2018 6:17 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>> Hi Kone,
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>>>> The energy has to be input as two separate parts and then mixed
>>>> into a coherent single part to be extracted for driving the load.
>>>> Look at how Pierre Cotnoir did it. His device didn't require
>>>> resonance which makes it drive different loads without having to
>>>> readjust everything. He has overcome the tuning bitch. I'll try
>>>> something like that. But the progress is going very slow. This far
>>>> two MOSFET hex bridges are completed and working.
>>>>
>>>> Mixing energy is not just mixing voltage or mixing current as both
>>>> of those parts as well as time (actually change) are parts of
>>>> energy. Think of energy and not just the parts making up energy.
>>>> Energy comes in quite many types. It's the output energy that has
>>>> to be greater than the input energy to be able to extract free
>>>> energy. The excess free energy is then extracted out of the cosmic
>>>> background or aether of electrons (or positrons).
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ole
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>>>> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
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>>>> Hi James
>>>> Perhaps "bifilar backemf" (the inductive kickback spikes from a
>>>> bifilar coil)
>>>> Is of greater power when first you split then combine the inductive
>>>> kickback spikes produced.
>>>> This means bifilar half A is fed the.pulsed DC power (or
>>>> alternating polarity pulsed DC for AC)
>>>> And steering diodes capture the kickback spike into cap (s).
>>>> Then the other half (B) of bifilar is not driven by direct power
>>>> feed but rather is only induced by bifilar half A.
>>>> Now either combine kickback spikes from each into common cap or
>>>> fill up separate caps for each bifilar half.
>>>> Could be creating a "coherence" condition as Ole speaks about, from
>>>> W B Smith writings.
>>>> The capacitors filled need to be disconnected from the coil
>>>> whenever they discharge to load for real power to be seen with no
>>>> reflection back to primary input.
>>>> Kone
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