Re: [EVGRAY] Bifilar Coil for Electromagnets

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Yes but the normal back EMF voltage level just isn't high enough to do
recharging .so they bifiler wind to up the voltage with out a lot of extra
solid state .the guys working on the three battery system use DC to DC
converters to get it up . and bedini showed on his scope the difference .my
work area just doesn't have the room. For one .that dual trace from China
that Rick showed everyone is cheap .
On Aug 27, 2018 9:42 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> The difference between your experiment and tinsel koala is the drive being
> high impedance with his and low with yours so your experiment had
> substantial B field component.  I have found without the high current low
> impedance drive such as only using a sig gen without a current buffer
> experiments some times turn out with an improper assessment.
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> How did you measure the magnetic and electric field of the coil?
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> Were you feeding the bifilar from channel A and channel B of the amp in
> cross phase?
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> I performed a similar experiment in the 80's two battery powered mono
> cassette players.  Recording a tape in stereo at 400 Hz with the channels
> 180 degrees out of phase then put the tape in the mono player.  The mono
> addition volume is low and the main component of the 400hz  gone so just a
> dull sounding almost off frequency playback.  Now if two tapes were used
> and two mono players at the same time the cancelled muffled sound went away
> and the original tone reappeared but interestingly enough the rebuilt tone
> was no longer localized but rather seemed to come from everywhere at once.
> 400hz is easy to localize so this was surprising and astonishing in some
> ways when one considers the math.
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> On 8/27/2018 7:06 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hello all!    Since the subject of bifillar coils has surfaced again, Let
> me share a little experiment that was spurred by Tom Bearden when he
> published his Phase Conjugation ideas!  Out of curiosity, I wound a long
> solenoid air core coil with two strand 18 ga. stranded zip wire.   I was
> careful to wind the turns flat ,single layer tightly wound so that mutual
> induction between turns phase cancelled the vectors of the electric fields
> and the magnetic fields. what bifiliar should do.  I used a Ramer Impedance
> Bridge to get my winding to the 8 Ohm impedance needed for my 100
> watt/channel stereo amplifier when fed by a pure sine wave of 400Hz
> signal.  (Note: I did not attempt to find a resonant point for the coil)
> The hook up is simple and You can watch on a scope the stereo amp output
> Channel A & B being exactly 180 degrees out of phase into the air core 8
> Ohm / winding.  When brought up to 100 watt power dissipation / channel
> into the 8 Ohm impedance there was no detectable fields either electric nor
> magnetic fields although the power meters showed a total of 200 watts of
> energy being consumed.  What is your opinion as to the form that the power
> was converted into?? Yes there was associated heat generated in the air
> core windings.  When phase cancellation removes the vectors from the
> equation, does the energy become Longitudinal wave without any detectable
> fields???
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> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
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> On 8/27/2018 6:17 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hi Kone,
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> The energy has to be input as two separate parts and then mixed into a
> coherent single part to be extracted for driving the load. Look at how
> Pierre Cotnoir did it. His device didn't require resonance which makes it
> drive different loads without having to readjust everything. He has
> overcome the tuning bitch. I'll try something like that. But the progress
> is going very slow. This far two MOSFET hex bridges are completed and
> working.
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> Mixing energy is not just mixing voltage or mixing current as both of
> those parts as well as time (actually change) are parts of energy. Think of
> energy and not just the parts making up energy. Energy comes in quite many
> types. It's the output energy that has to be greater than the input energy
> to be able to extract free energy. The excess free energy is then extracted
> out of the cosmic background or aether of electrons (or positrons).
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> Regards
> Ole
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> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> <konehead@...> wrote :
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> Hi James
> Perhaps "bifilar backemf" (the inductive kickback spikes from a bifilar
> coil)
> Is of greater power when first you split then combine the inductive
> kickback spikes produced.
> This means bifilar half A is fed the.pulsed DC power (or alternating
> polarity pulsed DC for AC)
> And steering diodes capture the kickback spike into cap (s).
> Then the other half (B) of bifilar is not driven by direct power feed but
> rather is only induced by bifilar half A.
> Now either combine kickback spikes from each into common cap or fill up
> separate caps for each bifilar half.
> Could be creating a "coherence" condition as Ole speaks about, from W B
> Smith writings.
> The capacitors filled need to be disconnected from the coil whenever they
> discharge to load for real power to be seen with no reflection back to
> primary input.
> Kone
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