Re: [EVGRAY] Bifilar Coil for Electromagnets

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The difference between your experiment and tinsel koala is the drive
being high impedance with his and low with yours so your experiment had
substantial B field component.  I have found without the high current
low impedance drive such as only using a sig gen without a current
buffer experiments some times turn out with an improper assessment. 

How did you measure the magnetic and electric field of the coil?

Were you feeding the bifilar from channel A and channel B of the amp in
cross phase?

I performed a similar experiment in the 80's two battery powered mono
cassette players.  Recording a tape in stereo at 400 Hz with the
channels 180 degrees out of phase then put the tape in the mono player. 
The mono addition volume is low and the main component of the 400hz 
gone so just a dull sounding almost off frequency playback.  Now if two
tapes were used and two mono players at the same time the cancelled
muffled sound went away and the original tone reappeared but
interestingly enough the rebuilt tone was no longer localized but rather
seemed to come from everywhere at once.  400hz is easy to localize so
this was surprising and astonishing in some ways when one considers the
math.


On 8/27/2018 7:06 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hello all!    Since the subject of bifillar coils has surfaced again,
> Let me share a little experiment that was spurred by Tom Bearden when
> he published his Phase Conjugation ideas!  Out of curiosity, I wound a
> long solenoid air core coil with two strand 18 ga. stranded zip
> wire.   I was careful to wind the turns flat ,single layer tightly
> wound so that mutual induction between turns phase cancelled the
> vectors of the electric fields and the magnetic fields. what bifiliar
> should do.  I used a Ramer Impedance Bridge to get my winding to the 8
> Ohm impedance needed for my 100 watt/channel stereo amplifier when fed
> by a pure sine wave of 400Hz signal.  (Note: I did not attempt to find
> a resonant point for the coil) The hook up is simple and You can watch
> on a scope the stereo amp output Channel A & B being exactly 180
> degrees out of phase into the air core 8 Ohm / winding.  When brought
> up to 100 watt power dissipation / channel into the 8 Ohm impedance
> there was no detectable fields either electric nor magnetic fields
> although the power meters showed a total of 200 watts of energy being
> consumed.  What is your opinion as to the form that the power was
> converted into?? Yes there was associated heat generated in the air
> core windings.  When phase cancellation removes the vectors from the
> equation, does the energy become Longitudinal wave without any
> detectable fields???
>
> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
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> On 8/27/2018 6:17 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Hi Kone,
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>> The energy has to be input as two separate parts and then mixed into
>> a coherent single part to be extracted for driving the load. Look at
>> how Pierre Cotnoir did it. His device didn't require resonance which
>> makes it drive different loads without having to readjust everything.
>> He has overcome the tuning bitch. I'll try something like that. But
>> the progress is going very slow. This far two MOSFET hex bridges are
>> completed and working.
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>> Mixing energy is not just mixing voltage or mixing current as both of
>> those parts as well as time (actually change) are parts of energy.
>> Think of energy and not just the parts making up energy. Energy comes
>> in quite many types. It's the output energy that has to be greater
>> than the input energy to be able to extract free energy. The excess
>> free energy is then extracted out of the cosmic background or aether
>> of electrons (or positrons).
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
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>> ---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :
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>> Hi James
>> Perhaps "bifilar backemf" (the inductive kickback spikes from a
>> bifilar coil)
>> Is of greater power when first you split then combine the inductive
>> kickback spikes produced.
>> This means bifilar half A is fed the.pulsed DC power (or alternating
>> polarity pulsed DC for AC)
>> And steering diodes capture the kickback spike into cap (s).
>> Then the other half (B) of bifilar is not driven by direct power feed
>> but rather is only induced by bifilar half A.
>> Now either combine kickback spikes from each into common cap or fill
>> up separate caps for each bifilar half.
>> Could be creating a "coherence" condition as Ole speaks about, from W
>> B Smith writings.
>> The capacitors filled need to be disconnected from the coil whenever
>> they discharge to load for real power to be seen with no reflection
>> back to primary input.
>> Kone
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