Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Spark gap

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JamesOld batteries are just fineWhile you are doing your lead meltingMake yourself a little mold for the connecting bus bars, and solder them while assembling the batteryOne can really enjoy this whole process of casting metals.Lead melts at such a low temperature, like solder, that I  often just use a tuna fish can on the top of the stove for small castings.If you like the process, you can make whatever you want in  various alloys.I digress.Lead can be cast in silicone molds, dry plaster, even wood use a 3/4" thick steel plate topped table work bench, or even the top of my cast iron table saw.If you want to have fun just casting objects, or making hollow copper, or nickel complex  shapes, remember you can electroplate the lead ( or Cerobend) and then melt out the lead leaving the seamless copper form.Battery plates are very straight forward for deep cycle as you just don't care how much they weigh.Fat plates are just fine.Mars metals here in Ontario, makes lead sheets, and they can come in numerous thicknesses.Your used batteries work fine and are very cheap. Do it outside when you melt them on a bonfire.Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 2:59 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Warren I was thinking of using old batteries not usable for anything but recycling .the plastic Case's too . what do the use for a bus bar to connect the plates .? 
On Aug 2, 2018 10:03 PM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     
James
It is not so difficult to make your own battery plates of the deep cycle type.First of all deep cycle batteries have plates that can be 1/4" thick!You can easily pour 1/4" plates on a thick steel plate laid down absolutely level with 1/4" sides.For smaller lead sheets, I melt them in a seamless tin can.For the really large plates I use a large electric crucible.They need a plastic tank.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 6:22 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren would be so kind as to relate the information on construction of the DIY deep cycle batteries your German friend told you ?you said I think something about iron and casting .I think that DIY deep cycle batteries would be a good combo with Rene or Bedini charging .thanks for your time Jim .

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
Sven
Do I understand you correctly that you use a single diode in the old Tv transformer circuit to rectify to a dc spark, rather than a full wave diode bridge?Is it OK to use a fwd circuit, and still get the efficiency you are seeing?Cheers Warren

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  On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 3:01 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hello Jakob, you quoted me.

The way I see your drawing I should use the energy to pass it through a transformer before. The spark is quite small and if you touch your fingers there is a tingling, I do not think that you can draw the power from it..

On my Youtube channel, I have a better experiment on the connection of the earth.

It's about a diode splitter transformer from an old TV with which I generate high voltage and discharge the energy over a spark gap.

When I connect the earth to the negative side minus the spark gap arcing increases sharply to the number in the same time, without the extra energy being applied.

I find that very interesting that over the earth apparently extra energy is sucked in.

Personally, I find it very dangerous to work with these voltages, and spark gaps are not my cup of tea since it produces ozone and is not exactly health promoting. laughing.

regards

Sven
    


   
    
   
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