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On Jul 11, 2018 9:11 PM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
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> James! Just go on the internet and order a Negative ion Generator kit for
> they all produce a cold ion wind at the output spike. It only takes a
> small 3KVDC (-) negative power supply to give you what you are looking for.
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> On 7/11/2018 8:05 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norm I was thinking along the lines of a coil that would get cold frosty
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> On Jul 11, 2018 12:51 PM, "James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
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>> Norm can you think of a table top small example of cooling with
>> unidirectional negative DC pulses that we can demonstrate simply cheaply
>> not soild state ?
>> On Jul 11, 2018 11:41 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Ok you are talking about the overall charge state of a mass from either
>>> sourcing or sinking electrons, therefore positively ionized or negatively.
>>> So it is not necessarily sourcing or sinking ions but rather sourcing or
>>> sinking electrons to achieve an overall positive or negative ionization
>>> potential. Is this correct?
>>>
>>> Working on the electron-photon link, but we have a distinct disconnect
>>> in that classical quantum mechanics denies the aether. A field
>>> perturbation between energy states that the photon is a result of. Be it
>>> the heating of an incandescent element or cooling of a plasma- source and
>>> sink- all I have so far. Will keep on it.
>>>
>>> Also forgot to mention in the black body info I was researching
>>> yesterday I think I read that the emission vs absorption correlates to
>>> dipole moment reversing spin but can't find the reference again.
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>
>>> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/95690/how-do-ele
>>> ctrons-and-photons-interact� Put some thought into this!
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 10:40 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> �
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Sorry to interrupt as I have not processed this excellent post yet but
>>> must interject as ions are different from electrons.� A cation or anion
>>> both are charged molecules rather than only the electrons.�� Even if
>>> they are ejected from a crystal lattice, I think...� Just attempting to
>>> digest your meaning accurately.
>>>
>>> Ha you fooled me with the clear sky comment into daytime thinking for
>>> the ice.� Was really stuck on that.�� Now if one were to devise a
>>> funnel shape black body system with a really good insulator like aerogel or
>>> a thermos vacuum design on the sides and tall enough to create a natural
>>> vortex from the rising heat one could likely produce serious cooling in the
>>> hot sun.� If it was large enough it could make ice.
>>>
>>> Ok back to studying your post.
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 8:01 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> �
>>>
>>> Ok! guys, I have pulled in some of my favorite researchers here for this
>>> discussion.� All of this dialog centers around my wandering dissertation
>>> titled What is Heat written back in the mid 90s for KeelyNet.�� The
>>> main understanding derived from paper is the fact that heating is caused by
>>> positive ionization of a mass. The object becomes hot due to the ejection
>>> of lattice electrons which manifest as photons in the IR band of energy.
>>> Cooling is just the opposite in that as a mass gains electrons it becomes
>>> cold due to electron packing in the atomic lattice. This explains the
>>> formation of ice at the phase change of water at 0 C. The electron packing
>>> causes a molecular re-configuration of the fundamental structure of water.
>>> If taken all the way down to absolute zero, the electron packing will reach
>>> total saturation (gross negative) and all Browning motion ceases for there
>>> is no mean free path for electrons to move. Tesla understood this concept
>>> for he was fascinated with the Linde Liquid Air production. Tesla's
>>> thoughts were of a superconducting primary coil. IBM Corp got involved with
>>> superconductivity in solid state circuits and ran into Tesla at the Patent
>>> process.�� Simply put, if you negative ionize a mass it will go cold.
>>> If you ionize a mass positive it goes hot.� The argument of which has
>>> more energy arieses since we are lead to believe that heat is more
>>> energetic that cold.� That means the holes in an atomic lattice has more
>>> power than a lattice packed with electrons. ??� Tesla totally understood
>>> the power of a cold sink. Mick asked how to make ice in the desert.�
>>> Simple, for on totally clear skys over the desert at night, the gross
>>> radiation into space of IR photons, emitted by a near perfect black body
>>> radiator plate will reach temperatures far below the ambient air. It is the
>>> rapidity of the thermal loss that causes the plate to go to a gross
>>> negative state, cold.� https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack� A
>>> surface coated with this will make ice under clear desert skies at night
>>> due to the super emission of IR photons into the cold sink of outer space.
>>> Remember! That at about 60,000 ft. we have the lowest temperature before
>>> the inversion takes place.�
>>>
>>> Please not the boundary at troposphere into stratosphere where
>>> temperatures have reached the minimum then start climbing.� This
>>> stratosphere base is the cold sink receptor for the emitted photons in the
>>> IR band.
>>>
>>> Thermosphere - overview _ UCAR Center for Science Education.htm
>>>
>>> Mick, Your quote "
>>>
>>> Black on one side silver the other
>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle
>>>
>>> You perfectly described on of Tesla's favorite toys, Crooks Radiometer,
>>> which really fascinated Tesla over just how it works.
>>>
>>> Your comment on collecting the energy of phase shift from plasma state
>>> back to gas state (gross over-unity) has to be done with the dielectric
>>> media vs large capacitor plates.� Please understand dielectric
>>> displacement is where energy (charge is stored).� Just as we are learning
>>> about how thermal junctions work, we learn that we need a material that has
>>> a super high electrical stand off coefficient and at the same time is a
>>> perfect thermal conductor.� Electrical conductivity vs thermal
>>> conductivity.� Put some thought into that statement for this is your ion
>>> pump. In my paper I discuss the age old paradox in Thermodynamics in
>>> Chemistry (TEXT BOOK) where there is� clear and carefully studied
>>> phenomenon of excess energy at the phase change of water from gas to liquid
>>> states.� If you study the phase change from a plasma back to a gas state
>>> you will find an order of magnitude of excess energy at this phase change
>>> point. This is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation re-connect
>>> studies that yield the EMP that is Magneto-Electric (cold electricity).�
>>>
>>> http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/plasma/JPP/paper
>>> s17/lebedev2.pdf
>>> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12
>>> https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1346128-structure-magnetic
>>> -flux-annihilation-layer-formed-collision-supersonic-magneti
>>> zed-plasma-flows
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>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>>
>>> https://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/
>>>
>>> Italian National Research Council
>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Italian_National_Research_Council>
>>> Cold plasmas are those with Te >> Tgas. It is obtained in low pressure
>>> discharges or in short pulse discharges as Dielectric Barrier Discharges or
>>> ns discharges.
>>> Hot plasmas, or better thermal plasmas, are those with Te~Tgas. It is
>>> produced in plasma torches or in high pressure discharges. The time of the
>>> discharge must be quite long, in order to have equilibration between the
>>> electron gas and heavy particles.
>>> From the point of view of deposition both plasmas are used, but with
>>> different substrates and for different applications.�
>>> The uniformity depends on your plasma device and on the size of the
>>> deposition area.�
>>> Usually in cold plasmas, also ions can play an important role. As an
>>> example ion bombardment is used for the so called plasma etching.�
>>> In any cases there is a lot of literature on this subject, and there are
>>> commercial systems for both cold and thermal plasmas.
>>>
>>> We get into negative ion barrier to heat which is real interesting.�
>>> Since a unidirectional negative DC pulse creates a cold ionic wind (proven,
>>> I have one operating as we speak) we see our example of cold electricity. A
>>> unidirectional pulse of positive charge will create heating. It is all in
>>> the direction of ionization.� Yes! Toby, a unidirectional pulse train of
>>> negative discharge will create frost due the gross negative ionization
>>> effect. (electron packing in atomic lattices). Some Tesla coil
>>> experimenters have seen frost at the base of a Tesla coil running when a
>>> circulating field of negative ionized air causes the chilling effect.� If
>>> you want to see a real ice maker, just drive your primary coil with
>>> unidirectional negative DC pulses and vola! you have ice.
>>>
>>> Back to the (black,dark matter, Superlight, Magneto Electric energy
>>> (EMP) we need to learn how to capture and harness this cold electricity
>>> phenomenon.� Our MRA, Floyd Sweet VTA and many other research into this
>>> came to a dead end on ways to convert this form of energy to make it
>>> interface with our standard electricity (Electro Magnetic). As I see it the
>>> two are just the opposite.� Electro magnetic energy is explosive in
>>> nature with energy propagated out wards, pressure� (Centrifugal)
>>> (HEAT)..� On the other hand magneto electric is an implosive (vacuum)
>>> event (Centripetal).(COLD).
>>> Much more to be discussed here!� Norm
>>>
>>>
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>>> On 7/10/2018 4:01 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> That's ironic, OK so what are some good ways to gather this energy, just
>>> large capacitor plates?
>>>
>>> Funny if all this time the Budweiser sign could be powering the whole diner!
>>>
>>> I would love to procure your collection of the good Dr.'s writings on
>>> magneto electric and superlight.� Is this digitized or in large paper files?
>>>
>>> Could you provide the name of the company doing the seabed mining
>>> again?� I was looking and there are several some of which seem to be
>>> investment scams, would be nice to know who the real players are.
>>>
>>> Ice in the desert from a� black body, talk about a brain massage.� How
>>> to Q switch a blackbody radiator...� Black on one side silver the other
>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle, damn I want to know how to make
>>> ice in the desert!
>>>
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>>> On 7/10/2018 5:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Mick! The reverse laser trick is what happens to a plasma to gas phase
>>> change thus photons return to electron state carrying a ton of aether
>>> (pertubation) energy into the equation!� Lol
>>>
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>>> On 7/9/2018 10:11 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm, that's great stuff crashing energy states pulling in a surplus
>>> from the perturbed aether.� Pertubation pumps� Explains what Don Smith
>>> was going on about with the plasma tubes.
>>>
>>> Now how� bout a reverse laser then, as the same must happen with photons
>>> dropping back to electrons as they must do but we have not heard of it,
>>> well maybe you have...
>>>
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>>> On 7/9/2018 5:10 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Mick!� You got it together.��� In my article, What is Heat, I explained
>>> that there is over-unity at the phase change point of water vapor back
>>> to liquid.� Studied by scholars for many years but totally unexplained.
>>> (Text Book).��� Better yet is the fact that an over-unity factor of an
>>> order of magnitude greater exist when you phase change from a plasma
>>> state back to a gas state. (Aetheric Pumping).��� Smoke that!�� Lol
>>>
>>> Norm
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>>> On 7/8/2018 10:30 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Sounds as if the really nice neutral spikes occur when a coil is not
>>> only switched hard off but has also reached full or over saturation,
>>> therefore acting like a� ground pumping "graser"
>>>
>>> The page 25 device is a classic negative resistance device.
>>>
>>> The magnifying transmitter unlike the more familiar Tesla coil called
>>> for a core that was also supposed to be highly polished and slotted at
>>> the base therefore something that could be saturated.� The slots in the
>>> base to prevent heating from the eddy currents would seem to indicate
>>> the idea was to run this near or into saturation.
>>>
>>> Based on your shaded pole motors an inductor can cohere the energy if
>>> there is enough present but the negative impedance of the gas tube near
>>> break-over seems a better suited detector and valve.
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>>> On 7/8/2018 11:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>> Remember when Tesla demonstrated extracting energy at the nodal points
>>> on a copper bar conductor??
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2011 2:44 PM, Jim Warren wrote:
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>>> Norm
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>>> ��� Do I have it thgether now?
>>>
>>> Jim
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