Body
James! Just go on the internet and order a Negative ion Generator kit
for they all produce a cold ion wind at the output spike. It only takes
a small 3KVDC (-) negative power supply to give you what you are looking
for.
On 7/11/2018 8:05 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norm I was thinking along the lines of a coil that would get cold
> frosty . ?
>
> On Jul 11, 2018 12:51 PM, "James Glinski [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Norm can you think of a table top small example of cooling with
> unidirectional negative DC pulses that we can demonstrate simply
> cheaply not soild state ?
>
> On Jul 11, 2018 11:41 AM, "Mick [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Ok you are talking about the overall charge state of a mass
> from either sourcing or sinking electrons, therefore
> positively ionized or negatively. So it is not necessarily
> sourcing or sinking ions but rather sourcing or sinking
> electrons to achieve an overall positive or negative
> ionization potential. Is this correct?
>
> Working on the electron-photon link, but we have a distinct
> disconnect in that classical quantum mechanics denies the
> aether. A field perturbation between energy states that the
> photon is a result of. Be it the heating of an incandescent
> element or cooling of a plasma- source and sink- all I have so
> far. Will keep on it.
>
> Also forgot to mention in the black body info I was
> researching yesterday I think I read that the emission vs
> absorption correlates to dipole moment reversing spin but
> can't find the reference again.
>
>
> On 7/11/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/95690/how-do-electrons-and-photons-interact
>> <https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/95690/how-do-electrons-and-photons-interact>�
>> Put some thought into this!
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/2018 10:40 AM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Sorry to interrupt as I have not processed this excellent
>>> post yet but must interject as ions are different from
>>> electrons.� A cation or anion both are charged molecules
>>> rather than only the electrons.�� Even if they are
>>> ejected from a crystal lattice, I think...� Just
>>> attempting to digest your meaning accurately.
>>>
>>> Ha you fooled me with the clear sky comment into daytime
>>> thinking for the ice.� Was really stuck on that.�� Now
>>> if one were to devise a funnel shape black body system with
>>> a really good insulator like aerogel or a thermos vacuum
>>> design on the sides and tall enough to create a natural
>>> vortex from the rising heat one could likely produce serious
>>> cooling in the hot sun.� If it was large enough it could
>>> make ice.
>>>
>>> Ok back to studying your post.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2018 8:01 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Ok! guys, I have pulled in some of my favorite researchers
>>>> here for this discussion.� All of this dialog centers
>>>> around my wandering dissertation titled What is Heat
>>>> written back in the mid 90s for KeelyNet.�� The main
>>>> understanding derived from paper is the fact that heating
>>>> is caused by positive ionization of a mass. The object
>>>> becomes hot due to the ejection of lattice electrons which
>>>> manifest as photons in the IR band of energy. Cooling is
>>>> just the opposite in that as a mass gains electrons it
>>>> becomes cold due to electron packing in the atomic lattice.
>>>> This explains the formation of ice at the phase change of
>>>> water at 0 C. The electron packing causes a molecular
>>>> re-configuration of the fundamental structure of water. If
>>>> taken all the way down to absolute zero, the electron
>>>> packing will reach total saturation (gross negative) and
>>>> all Browning motion ceases for there is no mean free path
>>>> for electrons to move. Tesla understood this concept for he
>>>> was fascinated with the Linde Liquid Air production.
>>>> Tesla's thoughts were of a superconducting primary coil.
>>>> IBM Corp got involved with superconductivity in solid state
>>>> circuits and ran into Tesla at the Patent process.��
>>>> Simply put, if you negative ionize a mass it will go cold.
>>>> If you ionize a mass positive it goes hot.� The argument
>>>> of which has more energy arieses since we are lead to
>>>> believe that heat is more energetic that cold.� That
>>>> means the holes in an atomic lattice has more power than a
>>>> lattice packed with electrons. ??� Tesla totally
>>>> understood the power of a cold sink. Mick asked how to make
>>>> ice in the desert.� Simple, for on totally clear skys
>>>> over the desert at night, the gross radiation into space of
>>>> IR photons, emitted by a near perfect black body radiator
>>>> plate will reach temperatures far below the ambient air. It
>>>> is the rapidity of the thermal loss that causes the plate
>>>> to go to a gross negative state, cold.�
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack>� A surface
>>>> coated with this will make ice under clear desert skies at
>>>> night due to the super emission of IR photons into the cold
>>>> sink of outer space. Remember! That at about 60,000 ft. we
>>>> have the lowest temperature before the inversion takes
>>>> place.�
>>>>
>>>> Please not the boundary at troposphere into stratosphere
>>>> where temperatures have reached the minimum then start
>>>> climbing.� This stratosphere base is the cold sink
>>>> receptor for the emitted photons in the IR band.
>>>>
>>>> Thermosphere - overview _ UCAR Center for Science Education.htm
>>>>
>>>> Mick, Your quote "
>>>>
>>>> Black on one side silver the other
>>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle
>>>> You perfectly described on of Tesla's favorite toys, Crooks
>>>> Radiometer, which really fascinated Tesla over just how it
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> Your comment on collecting the energy of phase shift from
>>>> plasma state back to gas state (gross over-unity) has to be
>>>> done with the dielectric media vs large capacitor
>>>> plates.� Please understand dielectric displacement is
>>>> where energy (charge is stored).� Just as we are learning
>>>> about how thermal junctions work, we learn that we need a
>>>> material that has a super high electrical stand off
>>>> coefficient and at the same time is a perfect thermal
>>>> conductor.� Electrical conductivity vs thermal
>>>> conductivity.� Put some thought into that statement for
>>>> this is your ion pump. In my paper I discuss the age old
>>>> paradox in Thermodynamics in Chemistry (TEXT BOOK) where
>>>> there is� clear and carefully studied phenomenon of
>>>> excess energy at the phase change of water from gas to
>>>> liquid states.� If you study the phase change from a
>>>> plasma back to a gas state you will find an order of
>>>> magnitude of excess energy at this phase change point. This
>>>> is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation
>>>> re-connect studies that yield the EMP that is
>>>> Magneto-Electric (cold electricity).�
>>>>
>>>> http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/plasma/JPP/papers17/lebedev2.pdf
>>>> <http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/plasma/JPP/papers17/lebedev2.pdf>
>>>> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12
>>>> <https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12>
>>>> https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1346128-structure-magnetic-flux-annihilation-layer-formed-collision-supersonic-magnetized-plasma-flows
>>>> <https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1346128-structure-magnetic-flux-annihilation-layer-formed-collision-supersonic-magnetized-plasma-flows>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_%28types_of_plasma%29>
>>>>
>>>> https://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/
>>>>
>>>> Italian National Research Council
>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Italian_National_Research_Council>
>>>> Cold plasmas are those with Te >> Tgas. It is obtained in
>>>> low pressure discharges or in short pulse discharges as
>>>> Dielectric Barrier Discharges or ns discharges.
>>>> Hot plasmas, or better thermal plasmas, are those with
>>>> Te~Tgas. It is produced in plasma torches or in high
>>>> pressure discharges. The time of the discharge must be
>>>> quite long, in order to have equilibration between the
>>>> electron gas and heavy particles.
>>>> From the point of view of deposition both plasmas are used,
>>>> but with different substrates and for different
>>>> applications.�
>>>> The uniformity depends on your plasma device and on the
>>>> size of the deposition area.�
>>>> Usually in cold plasmas, also ions can play an important
>>>> role. As an example ion bombardment is used for the so
>>>> called plasma etching.�
>>>> In any cases there is a lot of literature on this subject,
>>>> and there are commercial systems for both cold and thermal
>>>> plasmas.
>>>>
>>>> We get into negative ion barrier to heat which is real
>>>> interesting.� Since a unidirectional negative DC pulse
>>>> creates a cold ionic wind (proven, I have one operating as
>>>> we speak) we see our example of cold electricity. A
>>>> unidirectional pulse of positive charge will create
>>>> heating. It is all in the direction of ionization.� Yes!
>>>> Toby, a unidirectional pulse train of negative discharge
>>>> will create frost due the gross negative ionization effect.
>>>> (electron packing in atomic lattices). Some Tesla coil
>>>> experimenters have seen frost at the base of a Tesla coil
>>>> running when a circulating field of negative ionized air
>>>> causes the chilling effect.� If you want to see a real
>>>> ice maker, just drive your primary coil with unidirectional
>>>> negative DC pulses and vola! you have ice.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the (black,dark matter, Superlight, Magneto
>>>> Electric energy (EMP) we need to learn how to capture and
>>>> harness this cold electricity phenomenon.� Our MRA, Floyd
>>>> Sweet VTA and many other research into this came to a dead
>>>> end on ways to convert this form of energy to make it
>>>> interface with our standard electricity (Electro Magnetic).
>>>> As I see it the two are just the opposite.� Electro
>>>> magnetic energy is explosive in nature with energy
>>>> propagated out wards, pressure� (Centrifugal) (HEAT)..�
>>>> On the other hand magneto electric is an implosive (vacuum)
>>>> event (Centripetal).(COLD).
>>>> Much more to be discussed here!� Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/10/2018 4:01 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's ironic, OK so what are some good ways to gather this energy, just
>>>>> large capacitor plates?
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny if all this time the Budweiser sign could be powering the whole diner!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to procure your collection of the good Dr.'s writings on
>>>>> magneto electric and superlight.� Is this digitized or in large paper files?
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you provide the name of the company doing the seabed mining
>>>>> again?� I was looking and there are several some of which seem to be
>>>>> investment scams, would be nice to know who the real players are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ice in the desert from a� black body, talk about a brain massage.� How
>>>>> to Q switch a blackbody radiator...� Black on one side silver the other
>>>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle, damn I want to know how to make
>>>>> ice in the desert!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2018 5:51 AM, Norman [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> Mick! The reverse laser trick is what happens to a plasma to gas phase
>>>>>> change thus photons return to electron state carrying a ton of aether
>>>>>> (pertubation) energy into the equation!� Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 10:11 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> Norm, that's great stuff crashing energy states pulling in a surplus
>>>>>>> from the perturbed aether.� Pertubation pumps� Explains what Don Smith
>>>>>>> was going on about with the plasma tubes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now how� bout a reverse laser then, as the same must happen with photons
>>>>>>> dropping back to electrons as they must do but we have not heard of it,
>>>>>>> well maybe you have...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 5:10 AM, Norman [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mick!� You got it together.��� In my article, What is Heat, I explained
>>>>>>>> that there is over-unity at the phase change point of water vapor back
>>>>>>>> to liquid.� Studied by scholars for many years but totally unexplained.
>>>>>>>> (Text Book).��� Better yet is the fact that an over-unity factor of an
>>>>>>>> order of magnitude greater exist when you phase change from a plasma
>>>>>>>> state back to a gas state. (Aetheric Pumping).��� Smoke that!�� Lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 10:30 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sounds as if the really nice neutral spikes occur when a coil is not
>>>>>>>>> only switched hard off but has also reached full or over saturation,
>>>>>>>>> therefore acting like a� ground pumping "graser"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The page 25 device is a classic negative resistance device.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The magnifying transmitter unlike the more familiar Tesla coil called
>>>>>>>>> for a core that was also supposed to be highly polished and slotted at
>>>>>>>>> the base therefore something that could be saturated.� The slots in the
>>>>>>>>> base to prevent heating from the eddy currents would seem to indicate
>>>>>>>>> the idea was to run this near or into saturation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Based on your shaded pole motors an inductor can cohere the energy if
>>>>>>>>> there is enough present but the negative impedance of the gas tube near
>>>>>>>>> break-over seems a better suited detector and valve.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 11:17 AM, Norman [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Remember when Tesla demonstrated extracting energy at the nodal points
>>>>>>>>>> on a copper bar conductor??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/17/2011 2:44 PM, Jim Warren wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Norm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ��� Do I have it thgether now?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
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