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Ok you are talking about the overall charge state of a mass from either
sourcing or sinking electrons, therefore positively ionized or
negatively. So it is not necessarily sourcing or sinking ions but rather
sourcing or sinking electrons to achieve an overall positive or negative
ionization potential. Is this correct?
Working on the electron-photon link, but we have a distinct disconnect
in that classical quantum mechanics denies the aether. A field
perturbation between energy states that the photon is a result of. Be
it the heating of an incandescent element or cooling of a plasma- source
and sink- all I have so far. Will keep on it.
Also forgot to mention in the black body info I was researching
yesterday I think I read that the emission vs absorption correlates to
dipole moment reversing spin but can't find the reference again.
On 7/11/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Put some thought into this!
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> On 7/11/2018 10:40 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Norm,
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>> Sorry to interrupt as I have not processed this excellent post yet
>> but must interject as ions are different from electrons.� A cation
>> or anion both are charged molecules rather than only the
>> electrons.�� Even if they are ejected from a crystal lattice, I
>> think...� Just attempting to digest your meaning accurately.
>>
>> Ha you fooled me with the clear sky comment into daytime thinking for
>> the ice.� Was really stuck on that.�� Now if one were to devise
>> a funnel shape black body system with a really good insulator like
>> aerogel or a thermos vacuum design on the sides and tall enough to
>> create a natural vortex from the rising heat one could likely produce
>> serious cooling in the hot sun.� If it was large enough it could
>> make ice.
>>
>> Ok back to studying your post.
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>> On 7/11/2018 8:01 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>
>>> Ok! guys, I have pulled in some of my favorite researchers here for
>>> this discussion.� All of this dialog centers around my wandering
>>> dissertation titled What is Heat written back in the mid 90s for
>>> KeelyNet.�� The main understanding derived from paper is the
>>> fact that heating is caused by positive ionization of a mass. The
>>> object becomes hot due to the ejection of lattice electrons which
>>> manifest as photons in the IR band of energy. Cooling is just the
>>> opposite in that as a mass gains electrons it becomes cold due to
>>> electron packing in the atomic lattice. This explains the formation
>>> of ice at the phase change of water at 0 C. The electron packing
>>> causes a molecular re-configuration of the fundamental structure of
>>> water. If taken all the way down to absolute zero, the electron
>>> packing will reach total saturation (gross negative) and all
>>> Browning motion ceases for there is no mean free path for electrons
>>> to move. Tesla understood this concept for he was fascinated with
>>> the Linde Liquid Air production. Tesla's thoughts were of a
>>> superconducting primary coil. IBM Corp got involved with
>>> superconductivity in solid state circuits and ran into Tesla at the
>>> Patent process.�� Simply put, if you negative ionize a mass it
>>> will go cold. If you ionize a mass positive it goes hot.� The
>>> argument of which has more energy arieses since we are lead to
>>> believe that heat is more energetic that cold.� That means the
>>> holes in an atomic lattice has more power than a lattice packed with
>>> electrons. ??� Tesla totally understood the power of a cold sink.
>>> Mick asked how to make ice in the desert.� Simple, for on totally
>>> clear skys over the desert at night, the gross radiation into space
>>> of IR photons, emitted by a near perfect black body radiator plate
>>> will reach temperatures far below the ambient air. It is the
>>> rapidity of the thermal loss that causes the plate to go to a gross
>>> negative state, cold.� https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack�
>>> A surface coated with this will make ice under clear desert skies at
>>> night due to the super emission of IR photons into the cold sink of
>>> outer space. Remember! That at about 60,000 ft. we have the lowest
>>> temperature before the inversion takes place.�
>>>
>>> Please not the boundary at troposphere into stratosphere where
>>> temperatures have reached the minimum then start climbing.� This
>>> stratosphere base is the cold sink receptor for the emitted photons
>>> in the IR band.
>>>
>>> Thermosphere - overview _ UCAR Center for Science Education.htm
>>>
>>> Mick, Your quote "
>>>
>>> Black on one side silver the other
>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle
>>> You perfectly described on of Tesla's favorite toys, Crooks
>>> Radiometer, which really fascinated Tesla over just how it works.
>>>
>>> Your comment on collecting the energy of phase shift from plasma
>>> state back to gas state (gross over-unity) has to be done with the
>>> dielectric media vs large capacitor plates.� Please understand
>>> dielectric displacement is where energy (charge is stored).� Just
>>> as we are learning about how thermal junctions work, we learn that
>>> we need a material that has a super high electrical stand off
>>> coefficient and at the same time is a perfect thermal conductor.�
>>> Electrical conductivity vs thermal conductivity.� Put some thought
>>> into that statement for this is your ion pump. In my paper I discuss
>>> the age old paradox in Thermodynamics in Chemistry (TEXT BOOK) where
>>> there is� clear and carefully studied phenomenon of excess energy
>>> at the phase change of water from gas to liquid states.� If you
>>> study the phase change from a plasma back to a gas state you will
>>> find an order of magnitude of excess energy at this phase change
>>> point. This is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation
>>> re-connect studies that yield the EMP that is Magneto-Electric (cold
>>> electricity).�
>>>
>>> http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/plasma/JPP/papers17/lebedev2.pdf
>>> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12
>>> https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1346128-structure-magnetic-flux-annihilation-layer-formed-collision-supersonic-magnetized-plasma-flows
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>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>>
>>> https://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/
>>>
>>> Italian National Research Council
>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Italian_National_Research_Council>
>>> Cold plasmas are those with Te >> Tgas. It is obtained in low
>>> pressure discharges or in short pulse discharges as Dielectric
>>> Barrier Discharges or ns discharges.
>>> Hot plasmas, or better thermal plasmas, are those with Te~Tgas. It
>>> is produced in plasma torches or in high pressure discharges. The
>>> time of the discharge must be quite long, in order to have
>>> equilibration between the electron gas and heavy particles.
>>> From the point of view of deposition both plasmas are used, but with
>>> different substrates and for different applications.�
>>> The uniformity depends on your plasma device and on the size of the
>>> deposition area.�
>>> Usually in cold plasmas, also ions can play an important role. As an
>>> example ion bombardment is used for the so called plasma etching.�
>>> In any cases there is a lot of literature on this subject, and there
>>> are commercial systems for both cold and thermal plasmas.
>>>
>>> We get into negative ion barrier to heat which is real
>>> interesting.� Since a unidirectional negative DC pulse creates a
>>> cold ionic wind (proven, I have one operating as we speak) we see
>>> our example of cold electricity. A unidirectional pulse of positive
>>> charge will create heating. It is all in the direction of
>>> ionization.� Yes! Toby, a unidirectional pulse train of negative
>>> discharge will create frost due the gross negative ionization
>>> effect. (electron packing in atomic lattices). Some Tesla coil
>>> experimenters have seen frost at the base of a Tesla coil running
>>> when a circulating field of negative ionized air causes the chilling
>>> effect.� If you want to see a real ice maker, just drive your
>>> primary coil with unidirectional negative DC pulses and vola! you
>>> have ice.
>>>
>>> Back to the (black,dark matter, Superlight, Magneto Electric energy
>>> (EMP) we need to learn how to capture and harness this cold
>>> electricity phenomenon.� Our MRA, Floyd Sweet VTA and many other
>>> research into this came to a dead end on ways to convert this form
>>> of energy to make it interface with our standard electricity
>>> (Electro Magnetic). As I see it the two are just the opposite.�
>>> Electro magnetic energy is explosive in nature with energy
>>> propagated out wards, pressure� (Centrifugal) (HEAT).� On the
>>> other hand magneto electric is an implosive (vacuum) event
>>> (Centripetal).(COLD).
>>> Much more to be discussed here!� Norm
>>>
>>>
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>>> On 7/10/2018 4:01 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Norm,
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>>>> That's ironic, OK so what are some good ways to gather this energy, just
>>>> large capacitor plates?
>>>>
>>>> Funny if all this time the Budweiser sign could be powering the whole diner!
>>>>
>>>> I would love to procure your collection of the good Dr.'s writings on
>>>> magneto electric and superlight.� Is this digitized or in large paper files?
>>>>
>>>> Could you provide the name of the company doing the seabed mining
>>>> again?� I was looking and there are several some of which seem to be
>>>> investment scams, would be nice to know who the real players are.
>>>>
>>>> Ice in the desert from a� black body, talk about a brain massage.� How
>>>> to Q switch a blackbody radiator...� Black on one side silver the other
>>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle, damn I want to know how to make
>>>> ice in the desert!
>>>>
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>>>> On 7/10/2018 5:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Mick! The reverse laser trick is what happens to a plasma to gas phase
>>>>> change thus photons return to electron state carrying a ton of aether
>>>>> (pertubation) energy into the equation!� Lol
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>>>>> On 7/9/2018 10:11 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> Norm, that's great stuff crashing energy states pulling in a surplus
>>>>>> from the perturbed aether.� Pertubation pumps� Explains what Don Smith
>>>>>> was going on about with the plasma tubes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now how� bout a reverse laser then, as the same must happen with photons
>>>>>> dropping back to electrons as they must do but we have not heard of it,
>>>>>> well maybe you have...
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 5:10 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> Mick!� You got it together.��� In my article, What is Heat, I explained
>>>>>>> that there is over-unity at the phase change point of water vapor back
>>>>>>> to liquid.� Studied by scholars for many years but totally unexplained.
>>>>>>> (Text Book).��� Better yet is the fact that an over-unity factor of an
>>>>>>> order of magnitude greater exist when you phase change from a plasma
>>>>>>> state back to a gas state. (Aetheric Pumping).��� Smoke that!�� Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm
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>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 10:30 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> Norm,
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>>>>>>>> Sounds as if the really nice neutral spikes occur when a coil is not
>>>>>>>> only switched hard off but has also reached full or over saturation,
>>>>>>>> therefore acting like a� ground pumping "graser"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The page 25 device is a classic negative resistance device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The magnifying transmitter unlike the more familiar Tesla coil called
>>>>>>>> for a core that was also supposed to be highly polished and slotted at
>>>>>>>> the base therefore something that could be saturated.� The slots in the
>>>>>>>> base to prevent heating from the eddy currents would seem to indicate
>>>>>>>> the idea was to run this near or into saturation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Based on your shaded pole motors an inductor can cohere the energy if
>>>>>>>> there is enough present but the negative impedance of the gas tube near
>>>>>>>> break-over seems a better suited detector and valve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 11:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Remember when Tesla demonstrated extracting energy at the nodal points
>>>>>>>>> on a copper bar conductor??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/17/2011 2:44 PM, Jim Warren wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Norm
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>>>>>>>>>> ��� Do I have it thgether now?
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