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Put some thought into this!
On 7/11/2018 10:40 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Norm,
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> Sorry to interrupt as I have not processed this excellent post yet but
> must interject as ions are different from electrons.� A cation or
> anion both are charged molecules rather than only the electrons.��
> Even if they are ejected from a crystal lattice, I think...� Just
> attempting to digest your meaning accurately.
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> Ha you fooled me with the clear sky comment into daytime thinking for
> the ice.� Was really stuck on that.�� Now if one were to devise a
> funnel shape black body system with a really good insulator like
> aerogel or a thermos vacuum design on the sides and tall enough to
> create a natural vortex from the rising heat one could likely produce
> serious cooling in the hot sun.� If it was large enough it could make ice.
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> Ok back to studying your post.
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> On 7/11/2018 8:01 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Ok! guys, I have pulled in some of my favorite researchers here for
>> this discussion.� All of this dialog centers around my wandering
>> dissertation titled What is Heat written back in the mid 90s for
>> KeelyNet.�� The main understanding derived from paper is the fact
>> that heating is caused by positive ionization of a mass. The object
>> becomes hot due to the ejection of lattice electrons which manifest
>> as photons in the IR band of energy. Cooling is just the opposite in
>> that as a mass gains electrons it becomes cold due to electron
>> packing in the atomic lattice. This explains the formation of ice at
>> the phase change of water at 0 C. The electron packing causes a
>> molecular re-configuration of the fundamental structure of water. If
>> taken all the way down to absolute zero, the electron packing will
>> reach total saturation (gross negative) and all Browning motion
>> ceases for there is no mean free path for electrons to move. Tesla
>> understood this concept for he was fascinated with the Linde Liquid
>> Air production. Tesla's thoughts were of a superconducting primary
>> coil. IBM Corp got involved with superconductivity in solid state
>> circuits and ran into Tesla at the Patent process.�� Simply put,
>> if you negative ionize a mass it will go cold. If you ionize a mass
>> positive it goes hot.� The argument of which has more energy
>> arieses since we are lead to believe that heat is more energetic that
>> cold.� That means the holes in an atomic lattice has more power
>> than a lattice packed with electrons. ??� Tesla totally understood
>> the power of a cold sink. Mick asked how to make ice in the
>> desert.� Simple, for on totally clear skys over the desert at
>> night, the gross radiation into space of IR photons, emitted by a
>> near perfect black body radiator plate will reach temperatures far
>> below the ambient air. It is the rapidity of the thermal loss that
>> causes the plate to go to a gross negative state, cold.�
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack� A surface coated with
>> this will make ice under clear desert skies at night due to the super
>> emission of IR photons into the cold sink of outer space. Remember!
>> That at about 60,000 ft. we have the lowest temperature before the
>> inversion takes place.�
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>> Please not the boundary at troposphere into stratosphere where
>> temperatures have reached the minimum then start climbing.� This
>> stratosphere base is the cold sink receptor for the emitted photons
>> in the IR band.
>>
>> Thermosphere - overview _ UCAR Center for Science Education.htm
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>> Mick, Your quote "
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>> Black on one side silver the other
>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle
>> You perfectly described on of Tesla's favorite toys, Crooks
>> Radiometer, which really fascinated Tesla over just how it works.
>>
>> Your comment on collecting the energy of phase shift from plasma
>> state back to gas state (gross over-unity) has to be done with the
>> dielectric media vs large capacitor plates.� Please understand
>> dielectric displacement is where energy (charge is stored).� Just
>> as we are learning about how thermal junctions work, we learn that we
>> need a material that has a super high electrical stand off
>> coefficient and at the same time is a perfect thermal conductor.�
>> Electrical conductivity vs thermal conductivity.� Put some thought
>> into that statement for this is your ion pump. In my paper I discuss
>> the age old paradox in Thermodynamics in Chemistry (TEXT BOOK) where
>> there is� clear and carefully studied phenomenon of excess energy
>> at the phase change of water from gas to liquid states.� If you
>> study the phase change from a plasma back to a gas state you will
>> find an order of magnitude of excess energy at this phase change
>> point. This is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation
>> re-connect studies that yield the EMP that is Magneto-Electric (cold
>> electricity).�
>>
>> http://www-thphys.physics.ox.ac.uk/research/plasma/JPP/papers17/lebedev2.pdf
>> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12
>> https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1346128-structure-magnetic-flux-annihilation-layer-formed-collision-supersonic-magnetized-plasma-flows
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>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
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>> https://plasmasphere.nasa.gov/
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>> Italian National Research Council
>> <https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Italian_National_Research_Council>
>> Cold plasmas are those with Te >> Tgas. It is obtained in low
>> pressure discharges or in short pulse discharges as Dielectric
>> Barrier Discharges or ns discharges.
>> Hot plasmas, or better thermal plasmas, are those with Te~Tgas. It is
>> produced in plasma torches or in high pressure discharges. The time
>> of the discharge must be quite long, in order to have equilibration
>> between the electron gas and heavy particles.
>> From the point of view of deposition both plasmas are used, but with
>> different substrates and for different applications.�
>> The uniformity depends on your plasma device and on the size of the
>> deposition area.�
>> Usually in cold plasmas, also ions can play an important role. As an
>> example ion bombardment is used for the so called plasma etching.�
>> In any cases there is a lot of literature on this subject, and there
>> are commercial systems for both cold and thermal plasmas.
>>
>> We get into negative ion barrier to heat which is real
>> interesting.� Since a unidirectional negative DC pulse creates a
>> cold ionic wind (proven, I have one operating as we speak) we see our
>> example of cold electricity. A unidirectional pulse of positive
>> charge will create heating. It is all in the direction of
>> ionization.� Yes! Toby, a unidirectional pulse train of negative
>> discharge will create frost due the gross negative ionization effect.
>> (electron packing in atomic lattices). Some Tesla coil experimenters
>> have seen frost at the base of a Tesla coil running when a
>> circulating field of negative ionized air causes the chilling
>> effect.� If you want to see a real ice maker, just drive your
>> primary coil with unidirectional negative DC pulses and vola! you
>> have ice.
>>
>> Back to the (black,dark matter, Superlight, Magneto Electric energy
>> (EMP) we need to learn how to capture and harness this cold
>> electricity phenomenon.� Our MRA, Floyd Sweet VTA and many other
>> research into this came to a dead end on ways to convert this form of
>> energy to make it interface with our standard electricity (Electro
>> Magnetic). As I see it the two are just the opposite.� Electro
>> magnetic energy is explosive in nature with energy propagated out
>> wards, pressure� (Centrifugal) (HEAT).� On the other hand magneto
>> electric is an implosive (vacuum) event (Centripetal).(COLD).
>> Much more to be discussed here!� Norm
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>> On 7/10/2018 4:01 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> Norm,
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>>> That's ironic, OK so what are some good ways to gather this energy, just
>>> large capacitor plates?
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>>> Funny if all this time the Budweiser sign could be powering the whole diner!
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>>> I would love to procure your collection of the good Dr.'s writings on
>>> magneto electric and superlight.� Is this digitized or in large paper files?
>>>
>>> Could you provide the name of the company doing the seabed mining
>>> again?� I was looking and there are several some of which seem to be
>>> investment scams, would be nice to know who the real players are.
>>>
>>> Ice in the desert from a� black body, talk about a brain massage.� How
>>> to Q switch a blackbody radiator...� Black on one side silver the other
>>> and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle, damn I want to know how to make
>>> ice in the desert!
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>>> On 7/10/2018 5:51 AM, Norman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Mick! The reverse laser trick is what happens to a plasma to gas phase
>>>> change thus photons return to electron state carrying a ton of aether
>>>> (pertubation) energy into the equation!� Lol
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>>>> On 7/9/2018 10:11 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Norm, that's great stuff crashing energy states pulling in a surplus
>>>>> from the perturbed aether.� Pertubation pumps� Explains what Don Smith
>>>>> was going on about with the plasma tubes.
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>>>>> Now how� bout a reverse laser then, as the same must happen with photons
>>>>> dropping back to electrons as they must do but we have not heard of it,
>>>>> well maybe you have...
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>>>>> On 7/9/2018 5:10 AM, Norman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> Mick!� You got it together.��� In my article, What is Heat, I explained
>>>>>> that there is over-unity at the phase change point of water vapor back
>>>>>> to liquid.� Studied by scholars for many years but totally unexplained.
>>>>>> (Text Book).��� Better yet is the fact that an over-unity factor of an
>>>>>> order of magnitude greater exist when you phase change from a plasma
>>>>>> state back to a gas state. (Aetheric Pumping).��� Smoke that!�� Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm
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>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 10:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> Norm,
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>>>>>>> Sounds as if the really nice neutral spikes occur when a coil is not
>>>>>>> only switched hard off but has also reached full or over saturation,
>>>>>>> therefore acting like a� ground pumping "graser"
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>>>>>>> The page 25 device is a classic negative resistance device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The magnifying transmitter unlike the more familiar Tesla coil called
>>>>>>> for a core that was also supposed to be highly polished and slotted at
>>>>>>> the base therefore something that could be saturated.� The slots in the
>>>>>>> base to prevent heating from the eddy currents would seem to indicate
>>>>>>> the idea was to run this near or into saturation.
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>>>>>>> Based on your shaded pole motors an inductor can cohere the energy if
>>>>>>> there is enough present but the negative impedance of the gas tube near
>>>>>>> break-over seems a better suited detector and valve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/8/2018 11:17 AM, Norman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> Remember when Tesla demonstrated extracting energy at the nodal points
>>>>>>>> on a copper bar conductor??
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>>>>>>>> On 9/17/2011 2:44 PM, Jim Warren wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Norm
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>>>>>>>>> ��� Do I have it thgether now?
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>>>>>>>>> Jim
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